Talk:Rabid Bear

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20 sec Any/Rt build[edit]

I've posted a simple, effective build at the discussion page for http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Talk:Bear_Club_for_Women. No fancy equipment needed. The build works for any class, including the monk class. ( forgot to add: ChaosCom 14:07, 31 December 2009 (UTC))

"Ritualist" + specific_build is kind of redundant and pointless, don't you think? In other words, is there any Spirit/summons focused Ritualist that couldn't beat this thing?? --ilrUser ilr deprav.png 10:11, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
I've written Any/Rt to denote Ritualist as your secondary profession as per PvXWiki standard. Could it be that you've managed to mistake it for a primary profession requirement? Also, when thinking about Any/Rt, you automatically think about summons? How well does summoning spirits work on your -say- Warrior, with restricted energy management? I've tested this build with different classes successfully. Though nowadays Xinrae's Weapon would be more feasible due to greater health steal. The original comment dates back to Jan 4th, 2009. (ChaosCom 11:59, 3 January 2010 (UTC))

Mo/N Build to easily defeat the bear[edit]

After long hours of trying, I think I found a variant of the 55 monk build which makes this fight very simple. The build requires access to all 3 campaigns, and requires you to be a secondary Necromancer, but I believe that for those of you who've broken their heads trying to beat him with a monk this can really help (at least until they'll make this fight more "bear"able) :)

So without further ado:

Gear:
Totem Axe is recommended for most of the fight, along with the offhand -50 Grim Cesta of the 55 (you only switch to the club once the bear is down to 10%-15% health).
Radiant armor insignias are a must-have, since equipping the club will lower your energy significantly, rendering your non-signet skills useless.

Protective Spirit.jpg
Protective Spirit
Spoil Victor.jpg
Spoil Victor
Bane Signet.jpg
Bane Signet
Castigation Signet.jpg
Castigation Signet
Signet of Mystic Wrath.jpg
Signet of Mystic Wrath
Signet of Rage.jpg
Signet of Rage
Mending.jpg
Mending
Blessed Aura.jpg
Blessed Aura

Attributes:

12 Blood Magic
13 Healing Prayers
7 Smiting Prayers
8+1 Protection Prayers
8 Divine Favor

At the beginning of the fight make sure you have the Totem Axe and the -50 Grim Cesta equipped then cast Mending and Blessed Aura.
Wait for the energy to recharge, activate protective spirit and engage.
Wait for the bear to start attacking then use Spoil Victor (this will make his life go down fairly quickly).
Make sure you are keeping Protective Spirit up all the time and Spoil Victor as well (if your energy forces you to choose between the two, the choice is obvious).
When in need, use castigation signet to gain a small amount of energy quickly.
Once his health is down to 10%-15%, switch to the club.
You will not have enough energy to use SV again, and that's where your signets come in.
Activate them from left to right and the spike will finish him easily.
I know this build is a little tough to use (because of the skills from many campaigns) but this is the best build I was able to come up with and if used properly, the bear should go down in less than 1 minute.
Any changes are welcome!

Good Luck and I hope I helped!

General Kite

Edit: Signet of Rage and Signet of Mystic Wrath can be replaced with any other damage dealing signet.
The reason I chose them is because they seemed to fit naturally into this build.
Also note you can play a little with the attributes and find which setup suits you best.

Dervish Build[edit]

For anyone having trouble with a Dervish, this build works wonders:

Mysticism: 15 (for +5 energy on enchantment ending)
Earth Prayers: 13 (12 will probably work too)

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Zealous Renewal
Signet of Pious Light.jpg
Signet of Pious Light
Aura of Thorns.jpg
Aura of Thorns
Staggering Force.jpg
Staggering Force
Balthazar's Rage.jpg
Balthazar's Rage
Heart of Holy Flame.jpg
Heart of Holy Flame
Eternal Aura.jpg
Eternal Aura
Optional.jpg
Optional

Hold the club and attack the bear. Now all you do is:

  • Cast Zealous Renewal and always wait for this one to wear off naturally. Make sure you're attacking with the club to get the energy benefit.
  • Cast each enchantment and immediately remove it with Signet of Pious Light.
  • You can also chain enchantments and remove them. I liked Eternal Aura->Balthazar's Rage->Heart of Holy Flame->Signet->Signet->Signet. I'm not sure there's any benefit to this but the visible spike is more satisfying.
  • Try to keep him bleeding by casting and ending Aura of Thorns whenever it's recharged; the bleeding cancels his natural regen.

All of his skills can be ignored. Just work at it for a while and he'll go down. Thanks to Signet of Pious Light, you'll have no health problems. You really don't need anyting in the optional slot. -- bcstingg (talkcontribs) 14:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Maybe these builds would be more suited to PvXWiki instead of GWW. User-brains12-scale-sig.png brains12 15:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't know if PvXWiki is really intended for posting builds just for one quest, and I don't think anyone having trouble would think to look there for help with the rabid bear quest. Posting builds on talk pages for quests is pretty common; see Norn Fighting Tournament for an example. -- bcstingg (talkcontribs) 15:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Necro build[edit]

Far from ideal, but if others are having difficulty:

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Spiteful Spirit
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Enfeebling Touch.jpg
Enfeebling Touch
Hexer's Vigor.jpg
Hexer's Vigor
Insidious Parasite.jpg
Insidious Parasite
Pain Inverter.jpg
Pain Inverter
Signet of Lost Souls.jpg
Signet of Lost Souls
Web of Disruption.jpg
Web of Disruption
Bear never came close to killing me. (Inverter was only rank 4 btw) - User HeWhoIsPale sig.PNG HeWhoIsPale 14:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Any/W build[edit]

Here's a skill bar that any secondary warrior can put together without too much trouble. Max out your tactics and hammer mastery and the bear should go down in a few minutes. You'll only be able to interrupt half of his troll's unguents, but that's enough to do the job. Keep the bear blinded, bite his ear and give him diseases whenever possible. --Suhaim Ashald, 2:00 UTC, 31 May 2009(UTC)

Sneak Attack.jpg
Ear Bite.jpg
Signet of Infection.jpg
Staggering Blow.jpg
Auspicious Blow.jpg
Mighty Blow.jpg
Distracting Blow.jpg
Healing Signet.jpg

Cleanup[edit]

I'm going to make an attempt at cleaning up this article. Feel free to revert if necessary. Just removing the note about Smooth Criminal, the bear doesn't actually have any spells. Cleaning description of details on how to defeat it, should probably be limited to general tactics at most. As I said, revert if this isn't the case.--Revelations 09:53, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

un-FAIL the Bear![edit]

Apologies ahead-of-time to Ms. Murdock for being over-critical, but I see this "encounter" as easily the second biggest flaw with the EotN Expansion... the First biggest flaw of course being that a Glaring Imperfection on this magnitude still hasn't been overhauled yet (when a much easier Encounter WAS). The bear is too defensive and requires too much offensive leverage for this quest to fit in a "Standard Difficulty" categorization, solo or otherwise. Fighting Magni and the Griffon requires less minmaxxing than this bugger. Points that could stand to be Addressed or Altered:

  • Defy Pain was recently BUFFED... Time for the bear to lose something!
    • Natural Regen makes NO SENSE on any creature afflicted with viral zoonotic neuroinvasive encephalitis!
    • Perma Dolyak is B.S. and renders the Club useless. Replace it or lower the Bear's STR attrib.
    • the Bear's Troll Unguent Activates at 2x normal speed. SLOW IT THE HELL BACK DOWN.
    • The club should deal 500% +DMG to "Animals" for Epic LuLz!
  • Reducing its "Tanking" enough would have the added bonus of justifying Exploit removal!
    • All of the Norn should turn HOSTILE and serve up a beat-down if you ShadowStep back out of the Ring.
  • Sneak Attack is too-Cheez here, Bear needs a buff or something to help it deal with Blindness.
  • Since it's a "Rabid" Bear... Why not give it a unique bite that actually causes Disease?

Thank You! --ilr 06:12, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

so this is a complaint because its too easy(anit melee/shadow steps) or too hard(lots of defensive skills)? I think what your looking for is a foe thats unbeatable and then you would be complaining that for a bear its rediculously overpowered...Justice 06:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
My complaint, was ("Was", b/c this section is Temporarily Invalid due to Suggestions-to-Anet being stuck in Legal Limbo) that the Bear is now too binary, depending on which builds/classes you had unlocked. It is already almost unbeatable to 98% of all Builds, making it a more difficult 1vs1 encounter than both Bison and the Griffin. But at the same time, too offensively weak itself to fight back resulting in way too many long drawn-out Stalemates. ...and generally speaking: long drawn-out Stalemates are more Frustrating than quick failing defeats. --ilr 22:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I was fighting it with my warrior (failing miserably to do any damage, but was hacking away while thinking of a better strategy) and my phone rang. I talked for a minute I think, came back and my char was still alive with about 1/4 health. LOLWTF... And I like the "binary" nick, it fits him very well. He's either a joke or a hellish nightmare, depending on your class. The only other thing this reminds me of is trying to beat HM Doppelganger with a noobish fresh-out-of-Consulate derv... I finally cracked and bought some secondaries, but if only that was the solution here. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 17:13, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
I need some more ideas on this one :\ ...for the actual [[Feedback:]] space, so that it doesn't look like I just copy-pasta'd the rant above (written under the old GNU-GFDL) --ilrUser ilr deprav.png 19:35, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Feel free to discuss here also. Specific ideas are nice, but I think the main challenge is getting ANet to look at it in the first place. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 21:18, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Strength of Honor[edit]

Ok, I went and tried it with my assassin (should be the easiest to beat it with). I picked up Strength of Honor, a short recharging attack chain, Asuran Scan (at rank three), and Infinite Energy with 13 critical strikes and zealous daggers.

Asuran Scan.jpg
Asuran Scan
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Golden Fox Strike
Wild Strike.jpg
Wild Strike
Death Blossom.jpg
Death Blossom
Way of the Assassin.jpg
Way of the Assassin
Critical Eye.jpg
Critical Eye
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Critical Agility
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Strength of Honor

OwNj4kd5ITvllZ+PHMxZ6P1gzDA . His health fell down fast. The only problem was finishing him with the club equipped. I probably should have brought Impale or Finish Him so I could easily kill him with the hammer equipped but I didn't feel like walking back to the quest so I tried the quest 3 more times until I finished him with the club instead of with daggers.


I then tried taking my derv. I didn't have asuran scan and didn't feel like capping Zealous Vow so I brought Avatar of Grenth instead.

Balthazar's Spirit.jpg
Balthazar's Spirit
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Mystic Sweep
Pious Assault.jpg
Pious Assault
Aura of Holy Might (Luxon).jpg
Aura of Holy Might (Luxon)
Heart of Fury.jpg
Heart of Fury
Avatar of Grenth.jpg
Avatar of Grenth
Eternal Aura.jpg
Eternal Aura
Strength of Honor.jpg
Strength of Honor

OgOj4kpJLTyDMXSXjeibwX9gzDA . Don't really need mystic sweep but it's there if you have a little extra energy. I don't know if Balthazar's spirit is necessary either(The bear attacks slowly) but I already had it unlocked so I threw it on my skill bar. Also take note that your attack skills can be used with the hammer but only your scythe will take advantage of AoHM.

I havn't attempted doing it with a warrior yet, but if you're a melee class looking for a way to beat him using mostly skills you already have (or at least will likely to be able to use later), consider this formula: Infinite Energy(or just make it adrenaline-based) , Strength of Honor, Asuran Scan, a few spammable attack skills, and something to provide deep wound while a hammer is equipped for when he gets below 100 hp (act fast cause sometimes he lets defy pain run out and he loses a ton of health at once, thereby killing himself) Rypofalem 16:55, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

why so many elaborate skill bars on this page
"You Move Like a Dwarf!".jpg
"You Move Like a Dwarf!"
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Wastrel's Demise
Signet of Disruption.jpg
Signet of Disruption
Optional.jpg
Optional
Optional.jpg
Optional
Optional.jpg
Optional
Optional.jpg
Optional
Optional.jpg
Optional

win 124.168.107.149 05:15, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Estimated Health?[edit]

How much Health has the bear? User Yoshida Keiji Signature.jpg Yoshida Keiji talk 12:21, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Any/R using relatively basic skills[edit]

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Ebon Escape.jpg
Ebon Escape
Hunter's Shot.jpg
Hunter's Shot
Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support.jpg
Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support
Pain Inverter.jpg
Pain Inverter
Distracting Shot.jpg
Distracting Shot
Optional.jpg
Optional
Optional.jpg
Optional
Optional.jpg
Optional

~ 12 Marksmanship (probably can be lower, you just need the Bleeding to last longer than the 10-sec recharge)

~ Rank 3 Ebon Vanguard Title Track (probably can be lower)

~ Rank 3 Asura Title Track (probably can be lower)

Hunter's Shot is not strictly necessary but some kind of degeneration skill helps, especially if you've accidentally let a Troll Unguent slip through. The remaining slots can be filled with the damage-dealing/other degeneration skills of your choice. This is what I did: (1) Escape the ring. (2) Apply and keep reapplying Bleeding (and/or other conditions) as necessary. (3) Summon an ally (it can be some other summon skill) and immediately use Pain Inverter. (4) Use Distracting Shot for Troll Unguent (the disabling lasts longer than the recharge, so you shouldn't need another interrupt skill). (5) Attack while waiting for the summon and Pain Inverter to recharge. It's not terribly fast or fancy, but the tradeoff is that less is required in order to make this happen.

It looked like the bear doesn't use any skills if there's nothing in the ring with it, even if its health is being depleted, thank goodness. 24.47.80.100 08:34, 8 May 2013 (UTC)