Talk:The Scribe

Thoughts on The Scribe

I just want to say that I miss logging into the Guild Wars website and reading the Scribe. Bring it back!--75.60.221.251 14:58, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly! Why did it stop? =( LunarEffect 23:00, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

He's back, and he brings rumours about an event/holiday. BlazeRick 19:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Woot for the scribes return! and what a return - he has us all guessing about the Fraternal Order of Bakers and Brewers (FOBB) and what goods they are bringing us, why? and when? I'm wondering if this is a nice way to introduce the Bonus Mission Packs so those without will still have something new to do ? ...gotta love speculation and surprises :=)--Evil Geek 21:00, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Glad to see you back Scribe, you were missed.--75.60.221.251 22:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I added the page Fraternal Order of Bakers and Brewers in preperation for their entrance 69.9.214.18 13:13, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

The Scribe?

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Hey, I was just wondering: Where's the Scribe at these days? We haven't heard from him in a long long time. Any answer at all would be well appreciated, because some of us do miss him. Even just a once a month write-up of events to come would be cool from him. Thanks. Alreajk

See User_talk:Gaile_Gray/Archive_Community_&_Website/July_-_Sept_2007#GotW_and_Scribe for a little info in that regard. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 20:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Huh, are you telescoping into my offices? :) You'll be happy to know that The Scribe will be writing up a few notes for next week! -- Gaile 02:22, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Hmm maybe he will announce that the BMP is going live soon? Broodling 21:40, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

:) --Alreajk

The Scribe announced the BMP, but he gave no date. (Perhaps the difference between the Earth and Tyrian calendars?) He also mentioned a special mini-event taking place this weekend involving monsters dropping special seasonal items (much as they did last St. Patrick's Day and Easter). And he calls out a lot of good folks, including some whose names I recognize from this very wiki. The Scribe 20 November 2007. -- Gaile 19:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

AWESOME! THE SCRIBE IS BACK! /bows, /claps, /cheers! Araliuns sun 22:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

We're beginning to miss you again. Come spread the news!--Xis10al 02:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

The Scribe

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I miss it :( . Perhaps we can have a scribe issue when a couple of the design a weapon weapons get implemented? ^_^;; Ajc2123

Not a bad idea! I will ask the web team if they feel that's something we should offer. Thanks for the suggestion. -- Gaile 07:15, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Yea I really liked the one where rotwings bow was introduced. Very cool Ajc2123

Hi. I think we're going to go with a simple news post about the additions, when they come. Thanks for asking! -- Gaile 19:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Lore?

Should this really be under the category of Lore? It seems rather borderline to me. Gmr Leon 21:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually the scribe is exactly borderline. It's the bridge between lore and reality. (124.178.134.184 06:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC))

The Scribe gives a lore reasoning for game mechanics. So while the Scribe itself may not be lore - it talks in a lore perspective and explains things for a lore understanding. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 04:51, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

NPC

Are there any plans on adding "The Scribe" as an NPC in the major cities? Dero Ahmonati 16:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Articles from the website

In an effort to preserve Scribe articles from , I've simply copied/pasted the articles from the official website. In making haste, I've ignored formatting (including images, bold face, columns, and the like). (I was more worried about losing all the content than about what it looks like temporarily.) – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 03:00, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Person or not

Per [1]:

This article is about both the periodical and the person who wrote it (known in lore as "the Scribe", known with an in-game character used by Andrew Patrick as "Monastery Scribe"). This article was previously split and was merged because 90% of the article overlapped. It makes no sense to re-split it when there is no need to do such. Konig/talk 18:52, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

It makes great sense to resplit now that we have moved the scribe articles to the wiki from the main site. The periodical is called The Scribe and the person is called the Monastery Scribe, as our own article (and the main site) have said for years. The Monastery Scribe is sometimes referred to as our scribe or the scribe, much as newspapers will refer to our roving reporter or this paper's own reporter.

It might be different if we had never seen an in-game character. Or if this wiki categorized people and things under the same category consistently. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 17:33, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

I fail to see how having the articles on the wiki holds any additional relevance to whether or not to re-split, considering all that is doing is moving the location of the articles. The NPC is not called Monastery Scribe - the PC used by Anet is called such. The person is titled both The Scribe and Monastery Scribe.

Yes, there is a periodical called "The Scribe" and yes there is a figure noted as "The Scribe" and no they are not the same, though The Scribe is "written" by The Scribe - it's a self-named periodical. Now as to "Or if this wiki categorized people and things under the same category consistently." Ah but we do. Zaishen Bounty, Zaishen Combat, Zaishen Vanquish, Zaishen Mission and Lieutenant Langmar are each one article about a kind of quest series and an NPC - Khan-Ur (and gw2:Khan-Ur) is about a title and a lore figure known only by said title - though I want it split, Druid is also such a case (but I want it split because it's a group of individuals vs. an individual whereas this is an individual vs. a periodical by said individual). I am sure there are many I am forgetting about, but we often do hold a single article for a shared name case of an NPC and something about it specifically on a regular basis. Konig/talk 19:17, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

"The Scribe is a weekly periodical that will share a few stories from within the game. Written by a traveling monastery scribe..."

The official site doesn't offer an actual name for the person who writes the article. I cannot find any other primary source that suggests otherwise. Further, Andrew Patrick is both the author of the articles and the player behind the only character associated with the periodical to appear in the game. (There is no NPC in the game.) Accordingly, I think the occam's razor choice is that The Scribe is the name of the periodical and Monastery Scribe is the name of the in-game author of its articles.

I wasn't around for any previous discussions, so I'm not arguing resplit. I'm arguing that the current article is almost entirely about the periodical. I really don't see why it's a problem to separate the NPC.

Finally, all of the examples you mentioned are unusual situations where people decided (inconsistently from the rest of the wiki) that we should not have a distinct NPC article for a signpost, probably because 99.999% of the time people are interested in the quests. (Virtually the only time that folks care that about its NPC-ness is when they click on the sign the game's pathing has trouble getting them there.) In the case of Langmar, it was partly a compromise decision to distinguish pre-Langmar from post-Langmar without creating a lot of (what people perceived to be) redundant articles. So, again, it's a relatively unusual situation. So, yes, if this wiki consistently categorized people and things together, I would feel differently. But we commonly distinguish people/things with the same name (and less frequently put them together).

In the end, though, this really doesn't matter. Konig and I are among the tiny number of people who are likely to read this article and care how it's categorized. I care enough to have restated my case, but not enough to continue arguing further, even though I'm not convinced by the counter arguments. I leave it to him to decide how he wants to resolve this. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 22:54, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Is this not in of itself an unusual situation too? The wiki has a consistency in how it deals with unusual situations. My primary issue, which you have consistently failed to mention, is the lack of information available to distinguish a second article (as noted in my first post: "This article was previously split and was merged because 90% of the article overlapped"). In fact, in the past (two cases I recall vividly is Talk:Oni#Split and Talk:Druid#Split) you have argued against splitting between an NPC and a shared name situation (in said two cases, groups) due to lack of additional content for the new articles - that is, because so much information is the same, there's little point in directing people to different articles, forcing them to click more and load more pages. Konig/talk 23:42, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, GW Wiki Community!

I just did a search today to see if there was any way to revisit the old "The Scribe" periodicals. I first followed the link on the main page of this section, and of course it was invalid after all this time. But someone, at some point, saved the articles, and they were there to reread again today. Thank you so very much for that! As sentimental as I am about the days of yore, and as attached as I am to Guild Wars, it was delightful to know that they have been preserved here! -- Gaile 20:05, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Don't forget that Anet themselves allowed for the community to build such a wonderful resource, and is continuing to support it. As to the link to the official website, it looks like Dmitri Fatkin was able to work some magic and dig up its new location. But yes, if ever the official site is taken down, then it will still be found here. G R E E N E R 21:38, 31 May 2017 (UTC)