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Information.png I notice you have a clean talk page, so you must be new. Welcome to Guild Wars Wiki. Although everyone is welcome to make cool userpages on Guild Wars Wiki, at least yours is unreadable and do not appear to be constructive for the community. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to Guild Wars Wiki. Thank you. (just kidding) -- Coran Ironclaw 02:32, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I was gonna use Y0's pissoff template again, but Anja said she'd...let's just say what'd have been left of me would be on a wall tomorrow. Calor (t) 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
That made me laugh :P — Eloc 03:29, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Greetings, Eloc! I'd love to welcome you, but unfortunately we totally do not want you! So, well. Piss off. If you have anything else to say, visit my talk page. Please visit this page for more information. Here comes Anja... And I fixed your notice so the page width isn't 175%. Sorry if you meant it to be the old way. Calor (t) 03:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
It looks better at the bottom. Does it stretch your page? Doesn't for me. — Eloc 05:28, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
damn, i was off when you archived D: - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 15:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm on FF, maximum resolution and the notice goes off the side of your header. Calor (t) 16:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Wtf is FF? — Eloc 00:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Mozilla Firefox -- Brains12Talk 00:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I didn't need a link. Also, FF is also commonly refered to as Final Fantasy, a huge gaming series. — Eloc 00:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes but viewing your talk page on Final Fantasy is not very likely... --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 00:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Sony is owned by Final Fantasy and Sony makes computers :P — Eloc 00:43, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
ArenaNet is owned by Guild Wars = True ;) -- Brains12Talk 00:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Exactly. — Eloc 01:10, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Sony is owned by Final Fantasy? Now that made me laugh :) --Kakarot Talk 22:22, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
It's true! — Eloc 22:55, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Remind me next time I pass through Cavalon and see you to say hi. I went through recently with my Dervish while you were looking for a new ally (sorry, we're Kurzick) and thought about saying hi but I blew through pretty quickly. So, I'm saying hi here instead. Hi! :) Nbajammer User Nbajammer sig.png 05:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Alright then :P. I will be going there again once I get 11 more guild members then I gotta get 2 new allys for my Alliance. — Eloc 06:30, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Dakutu Village

glad you liked it. lussh 07:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Human = animal

=True. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/animal#Noun -- Brains12Talk 00:45, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, but why is there a category like that? Sociable animals? Aren't all animals sociable in one way or another? — Eloc 01:12, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Sorry brains but from your link "In non-scientific usage, any member of the kingdom Animalia other than a human being", I think we are in a non-scientific environment =p -- Coran Ironclaw 01:17, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Ya, just a bit. — Eloc 01:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

As to your recent profile update--

That's why users under 100 contribs are prohibited from "voting" in bcrat elections? I know that's a far cry from what you've mentioned previously in your bid for admin et al, but I'd have to say that # of contribs being worthless is a bit off the deep end. Don't know why I'm ranting, but its easier to press tab 4 times then space instead of ctrl+a then delete. -elviondale (tahlk) 01:37, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

What now? That didn't make much sense to me =S — Eloc 17:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
if you take a mushroom, shake it exatly four and a half times around its center axe, and then drink it while it's still warm, you'll get to know what there really is to life. - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 18:21, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
so i herd elviondale had mudkipz in da house. is this true? --Cursed Angel talk 18:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
lol — Eloc 20:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
O.o? Its funny.. I don't even remember leaving that comment above -elviondale (tahlk) 00:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Haxxx....?--Ryudo 01:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Drugs? — Eloc 01:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Extreme exhaustion -elviondale (tahlk) 02:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
A combination of all three. Calor (t) 02:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
a duck! :D - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 13:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Sauce. Moon sugar! Rythem! Makes my tummy jiggle like sunshine jelly!- VanguardUser-VanguardAvatar.PNG 13:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Booyah

Look familiar?--MP47 (Talk) (Contr.) 02:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Marco, I think you're starting to take this a shade too far. Calor (t) 03:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
A shade? And it doesn't look familiar to me, where's it from? — Eloc 03:07, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I read it is a copy paste from guild wiki. -- Coran Ironclaw 03:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Yup. Just like I told Brains I would.--MP47 (Talk) (Contr.) 04:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Isn't that forbidden because of licenses? Or is it special because it was in the GuildWiki: namespace? Calor (t) 04:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I have no idea.--MP47 (Talk) (Contr.) 04:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Since you're a Sysop, does that give you rights to publish any of the things from Guildwiki? — Eloc 04:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Of course not. As a sysop, it's his job to help uphold the copyright laws. Lawyers don't give a shit who you are if you're breaking the law. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 09:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Ever see Anchorman Marco? Because you sound like Brick. Calor (t) 19:32, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Lol, Anchorman is my favorite movie ever, actually. And like I said on the kanaxai image talk page, I really don't understand copyrights.--MP47 (Talk) (Contr.) 19:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
No one does now a days. — Eloc 00:42, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Warnings

So... I can't be postive about this, but, unless I'm very much mistaken, you just accused a user of vandalizing his own user page. gg. User Defiant Elements Sig Image.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 00:40, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

And how do you know it's the users actual page? If it's his page, he should be logging in, as I said in the 3rd sentence of the template. — Eloc 00:41, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Yeah, uh, Eloc. Notice how that IP accounts for a large amount of the page's edits? Also, see the name of Seymor's character? See where it's redirecting to? The IP most often on Seymor's page, who happens to be Seymor (Do you see an edit by Seymor on that page? A few, not a lot) redirected that page to his new account, Sorn Seymor, which is the name of his main character. See how it all fits together? And he should be logging in, but it shouldn't all be reverted because he isn't. How do you know there aren't technical problems with the account, explaining the IP edits and new account? Calor (t) 00:45, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
GWW:AGF? =S, screw this, I'm going to sleep (even though it's 6:15PM) :P — Eloc 01:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Lol, and AGF, I suppose, would be good for both of us in our respective situations. I should've looked at it first from your point of view before ranting. An IP redirecting a userpage to an unrelated userpage does seem suspicious. Calor (t) 03:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Exactly. :P — Eloc 15:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Same thing happened to me once :/ - VanguardUser-VanguardAvatar.PNG 15:12, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Eloc, I think I'm echoing advise given to you by many people before me, but I suggest you stop using those templates. Since you've created those templates, you've been giving people more notices than before their creation, and some of those notices are pointless or assumes bad faith. You may not be intending to get that sort of message across, but unfortunately, it is nevertheless.

It would be better if you either held your notices back, whether or not they are templates, or if you gave a friendly notice instead, not something that says you may be vandalising, or it may be unwelcome, but something like "Could you log in if you are that user, it saves confusion over userpages". -- Brains12Talk 16:38, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok. — Eloc 16:32, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Saidra

Eloc, before you and Liche get into a revert war, where does GWW:NPC require a map?Cassie 15:22, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Instead of constantly reverting Lussh, you should've put a message on his talk page explaining why the tag should stay. Guild Wars Wiki:One-revert rule may be of interest to you.-- Brains12Talk 16:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
please don't add commented out fields in main space articles with chatter. --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 17:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
GWW:NPC#Syntax_and_example & sure Lemming. — Eloc 01:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Please note that under GWW:NPC#NPC infobox template, it does say maps are optional. Further, under GWW:NPC#Locations, it mentions that maps are should be added for "NPCs of high interest (like bosses with a unique item or elite skill that can be captured)". - Tanetris 01:36, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
kk. Added to format guide :) — Eloc 01:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Lussh's weap

Could you stay away from my page please ? lussh 04:00, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Guild Wars Wiki:Assume good faith and if you don't do it right, it's just going to get deleted, so there's no harm in me helping you out. — Eloc 04:08, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I understand there is some past issues here between the two of you, but in this case Liche, Eloc was just trying to help. However, Eloc please respect Liche's wishes for the future. --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 00:48, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Yep, already removed from Watchlist. — Eloc 18:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Song of the day

is awesome :D --Cursed Angel talk 20:26, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) — Eloc 18:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

American

Hey, earlier I searched a few words with alternate non-American English spellings and Americanized them, because the game is in American English and ArenaNet is an American company. Don't bother going to revert them, as somebody will go and revert your edit, as we already saw with Auron. And out of curiosity, is a word like 'color' spelled 'color' or 'colour' in Canada? Calor (t) 02:54, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(spelling)#English_spelling_comparison_chart. — Eloc 02:56, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
So either is acceptable? Calor (t) 02:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Ya, but from personal experience of living in Canada my entire life, most people use colour. — Eloc 02:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Thought so. Calor (t) 02:58, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Canada, I believe, uses the same spellings as Britain. The Canadians I talk with in AIM chatrooms put random u's all over the place. And they're intelligent and don't shorten the word "you" like retards. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 08:35, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
so i herd u liek mudkipz?? --Cursed Angel talk 08:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
You know in England your name would be Calour :p --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 14:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Very funny Lemmiung, very funny :P — Eloc 16:34, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Lol, right, that really works :P -- Brains12Talk 16:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Wait, Brains, you're British, correct? Do people put u's all over the place? :P
Side note — Ooh, Brains has a fancy new signature, lol. — Eloc 16:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes I am British, and we only put u's where they are supposed to go :P (As in colour, vigour, rigour, odour etc)
I like fancy sigs :P-- Brains12Talk 16:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
lol, I like how many words you just named off the top of your head. I suppose British/Canadian English rule is to add a u after an o? — Eloc 16:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Quite likely, Elouc. Calor (t) 16:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) In most cases, yes. I have a feeling there are a few exceptions, but I can't remember them now. Also, American English is sneaking their way into our dialect, with sulfur being accepted as sulphur (most school textbooks now use the former) :( -- Brains12Talk 16:47, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Damn Americans and their crazy variation of English. — Eloc 16:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm English too by the way. don't forget Armor/Armour, that one bugs me the most from a game sense :P --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 18:24, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm American, and apparently in the minority in this discussion. Armor makes sense. Who puts 'u's wherever they see an 'o'? Freaks :p Calor (t) 21:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
and what bugs me the most is people randomly thro(u)wing apostrophes whenever a word ends with -s... why? because ppl in germany are starting to do the same. - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 21:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Given the way it's written and said, i would guess we can blame the french language for all this (that is what you get for using languages where you write things one way, and pronounce them in a total different way).--Fighterdoken 21:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I can't believe I forgot that, Lemming, I must be becoming more American than I thought :P. And y0, that's just horribly bad grammar, noone understands the art of the apostraphe's anymore... Calor, I guess it's just the way the American accent has developed - out way of saying armour is more like "armur", wheras I'm guessing yours is more like "arrrmorrr". And yes.. um let's uh... blame those French :P-- Brains12Talk 21:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
"apostraphe's", lol, even if it is deliberate ;) Lord of all tyria 21:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh god, I overuse apostrophe's (notice the apostrophe, lol), and I do add u to Armour, lol. U FTW! — Eloc 21:47, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Lol, the apostrophe there was an intended mistake, the spelling ("apostraphe") was not - I have just woken from a nap and my fingers are all clumsy :P -- Brains12Talk 21:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I just wrote an essay for Social Studies. The question was "To what extent should economic growth and development be the primary goal for all nations?" and my examples that I used within the essy was Canada, Britain and Japan :P — Eloc 21:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Meh, we don't have Social Studies over here :P (although business studies and economics are available, but as choice subjects) -- Brains12Talk 21:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Ah, interesting. SS is one of the 4 main core subjects here among English, Science and Math. — Eloc 21:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, I see. Our core subject in place of "SS" is religious/citizenship studies - the former is self explanatory, and the latter is more political and ethical matters (but very simple stuff, and common sense tbh). And it's "Maths" :P -- Brains12Talk 21:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Maths? Don't you mean Math's? We only really have on form of Math here, but like 3-4 for Science. Also, the religious part is kinda frowned upon in Public Schools here. — Eloc 21:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Blast those apostrophes... :P. And the religious studies is more about how would one religion see this topic, and how would another see it. How would daily things apply when a religious person of a particular religion (mainly the Big Three) applies it. -- Brains12Talk 22:05, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
The big three being Catholic, Christianity and ? Also, on a side note, did you hear that hackers hacked into the Scientology website? — Eloc 22:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, techincally, Catholicism is part of Christianity so they aren't really studied separately. Christianity, Islam and Judaism are the big three, which you then study the sub-sects in a more general overview or comparing internally -- Brains12Talk 22:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) That's lovely. Catholic is part of Christianity. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are the big three. Calor (t) 22:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Judaism = Jewish? If so, I don't think they're that big of a Religion considering they ownly mainly dominate one country. — Eloc 22:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, Judaism is the Jews. And it's the third largest religion, behind Christianity (1) and Islam (2). Calor (t) 22:15, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Wow, that's pretty intense. You learn something new everday, eh? — Eloc 22:17, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, eh. Eloc's a horrible representative of Canada, imo, eh. Americans ftw, eh. Calor (t) 22:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Erh, shouldn't budhism and hinduism be larger than the other three? i thought Christianism was just third. And by the way, what does this have to do with "armour" :).--Fighterdoken 22:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure where Buddhism and Hinduism are, but I know it's widely accepted that Chr., Jud. and Islam are accepted as the most popular three. And every conversation slowly deviates off course. Calor (t) 22:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) ... fyi, hinduism is a split of buddhism (or the other way round?) and islam is actually christian... - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 22:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Islam is in no way Christian. And Siddhartha Guatma didn't like the way Hinduism worked, so he sat under a tree for 44 (?) days until he came up with a way to solve problems and live a simple life, then went off and preached it as Buddhism. Calor (t) 22:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) (Edit conflict) Uh, no. Christianity is actually a branch of Judaism, and Buddhism and Hinduism are completely different. Lord Belar 22:30, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) x3 (and you're way too late, belar) about the "size", if we may trust wikipedia: "There are approximately 1.61 billion Muslims,[3] making Islam the second-largest religion in the world, after Christianity.[4]". and islam does have a basis close enough to christianity to make may people consider it christian. - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 22:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Y0. And Islam, still, imo is totally different than Christianity. Islam is centered almost totally around Allah, the Quran, and Muhammad's teachings. Christianity is about a different God, and Jesus's teachings and the Bible. Calor (t) 22:34, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Still, same as how Christianism took the basis from Judaism, the Islam took its basis from Christianism (i mean, they even acknowledge Jesus as a prophet, and show more respect for him that what you may find in some variants of Christianism). But if we go for the interpretation they do of the religion, Islam is closer to Judaism actually (which is, kinda, ironic). At the end, they are all just the same mess :)--Fighterdoken 22:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, funny houw we went froum talking about American vs Outher spelling around the wourld tou talking about relgioun (notice the u's, lol). — Eloc 00:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
yahay! wanna start a third world war? (Y0 @ skewl bored) 91.18.241.203 08:44, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
neads moar wourld waer 10k kk?? --Cursed Angel talk 09:33, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
kthxbai ima smaesh rockz nao - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 16:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
smaesh rockz ar guud --Cursed Angel talk 17:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
u nub u rode r whit "a" - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 17:15, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
IMA CHRGIN MAH LAZORZZZ --Cursed Angel talk 17:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Line for

DO you have the line code for the Ranger icon? Example:MesmerMesmer--ShadowFog 06:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Ranger -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 08:33, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Ty Armond. — Eloc 16:33, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hi, my userpage and talk page seem to have been blanked, I don't know how to return them to the last version. Could you please help me? Thanks, Ashes Of Doom 13:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Looks like Doll fixed it :) FYI, if you go to the history tab and click on the date of the last good revision (probably one by you) and then press edit and save without doing anything more, it should be reverted. - anja talk 14:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
ty Ashes Of Doom 14:14, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
You said you only have a couple of GW players at your school, but thats about normal. My school is a magnet high school based on science and tech, we have one of the greatest ratios of nerds to normal students in the country ;). As far as I know, we have 20-30 GW players in about 1600 students. A lot of them I don't know irl, just ingame. Ashes Of Doom 17:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

10 days

and i'll cu again, sux that some people can't leave u alone --Cursed Angel talk 11:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Ya, I know. Maybe during that time I'll go to a concert or work on my Guitar Hero skillz :P. The concert I'm looking at going to is the one with Silverstein, The Devil Wears Prada, Protest the Hero, & illScarlett. Not the best bands in the world, but 3/4 are Canadian and it's better than nothing. As for Guitar Hero, I'm almost done Hard Mode ;P — Eloc 11:41, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
sry but no idea about that bands, hope u have fun tho :D --Cursed Angel talk 12:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
have fun and cya! - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 16:19, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Signature help!

Thanks for making my siggy shorty... but one question, can you add the picture i have back in? When you formatted it for me you took my leet starburst thingy away. --'ÑöĭƑý 20:36, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Use this for your current signature with the image. [[User:NoXiFy|'''<font color="Black">Ñö</font><font color="red">Ẋ</font><font color="black">ĭƑý</font>''']][[Image:User_NoXiFy_Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] Calor (t) 20:43, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

On certain user page templates..

When it comes to the colors of the boxes, how do you know what numbers to put in? Is there a page that lists all the various codes and the color they're related to? Gmr Leon 17:33, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

You can check out here for a list of colours. Also, you don't need to put in the numbers, templates also accept just names. — Eloc 17:35, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
You can also google "hex code" -- Brains12Talk 17:37, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Ah. As it is already apparent, I was unaware of that. Still getting used to the wiki-style of doing things. Gmr Leon 17:56, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I recommend [1] -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 07:41, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
nice! - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 16:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, being able to try out various codes is really helpful. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 01:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

dsnbfsdmfbsdmn

How do you its the offcial name?? ~ SCobraUser-SuperCobra-Sig.png 23:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

This is the link Santax added. He also added the move tag. — Eloc 23:16, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
The name hasn't made its way into the game, the same way the so-called Xunlai Market hasn't. Also, we are still waiting on a response from Emily about its factual basis. -- Brains12Talk 23:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Link says a statue in EEEELLLLOOONNNNAAAA ~ SCobraUser-SuperCobra-Sig.png 23:20, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Which is why Statue of Female Warrior is a redirect. — Eloc 23:21, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) And it also says it's towards the northwest, meaning it's in the Crystal Desert (and you can see it from Elona). Also, I'm not saying the statue is or isn't called the Lonely Vigil, I'm just saying we should wait for Emily's confirmation, and/or leave it as a trivia on the originally named article. -- Brains12Talk 23:23, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
If it's in the dat file, shouldn't that be it, and just leave it as it is right now until Emily confirms/denys it? It only takes a second to click on the move button. — Eloc 23:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
There are still what if's. I'd prefer confirmation from a human insider rather than a decoded document with jumbled info, that was made three years ago. Calor (t) 23:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Which is why we go ask Emily? — Eloc 23:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Well seeing as it was already asked, shouldn't we wait first before we implement the move? -- Brains12Talk 23:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
No cause Eloc wants to be himself again ~ SCobraUser-SuperCobra-Sig.png 23:30, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
just cuz u want to be someone else? --Crsd ngl talk 23:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, Eloc, there's not anything else you can do to get the info from an ANet staff member besides wait. Unless you know Emily's phone number... Calor (t) 23:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Well sorry that I didn't know that Emily was being asked about it. There was a move tag placed there and no opposition on the talk page... — Eloc 23:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Inactive guild

Heads up Eloc, Guild:Sons Of The Ancient Flame has been marked inactive. -- ab.er.rant User Ab.er.rant Sig.png 06:17, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I thought it was given something like 3 days or a month if it has been marked for inactive, or was it marked a little while ago? Thanks anyways though. — Eloc 17:01, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
It gets tagged after six months of inactivity. A month after that, it appears on the deletion list and is due for deletion. All in all, an inactive guild is deleted after seven months of inactivity. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ Talk \ Contribs 17:05, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok, so that page was marked for quite some time. — Eloc 17:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Status

Because of the February election notice, your offline/online display is all garbled up in it (at least for me on Firefox 1440x900). You may want to consider lowering the status so it isn't in the heading for the people who haven't dismissed the message. Calor (t) 19:26, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd consider taking it out entirely, actually; it's gotten to the point where I don't check the diff's for your userpage in my watchlist because 90% of the time it's just you going offline, which covers up anything important. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 22:21, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Wow, people check my changes on my userpage? :P, but ya, sure, I'll take it out for ya. — Eloc 04:44, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. :P -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 07:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
No, we watch your talk page. That automatically adds the userpage, so everyone checks it for the sake of getting rid of the bold link. CalorTalk 19:24, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I for one check changes to Eloc's userpage because I find it interesting. There's a ton of bold links on my watchlist because I just don't care about them enough. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 19:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I check all of my bold links. Even if it takes me an hour or more to get through my pvx watchlist. Lord Belar 00:42, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I used to check all of my bold links, but now I generally skip userpages which were edited by their own user, so that cuts down checking time by quite a bit, which gives me more time to work on Landmarks :) — Eloc 02:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

heya

Just something to keep in mind, when you reformat pages like this, it still pings everyone who has the page on their watchlist - so for changes that aren't really necessary (adding spaces doesn't really do much since the formatting is pretty much just as logical without them), it might be better to just leave it as is. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 22:35, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I was just doing it as it just makes it easier for newer users to distinguish what is where on a page. Just looks neater is all. — Eloc 00:01, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Also.... do you really have to edit a page just to add spaces to the headers and the bullets? It's making my watchlist longer than it should be... -- ab.er.rant User Ab.er.rant Sig.png 15:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I'll stop. Just out of curiousity Aberrant, how many pages do you have on your watchlist? — Eloc 17:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
It currently says 502 pages watched not counting talk pages, but i tend to clean it out only once a month or so. No worries on the edits. I'm a little irritable right now because I really should be sleeping. Must... clear... my... screenshots... directory.... :/ -- ab.er.rant User Ab.er.rant Sig.png 17:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
2,043 pages watched not counting talk pages :P — Eloc 17:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Yea, you're crazy :P -- ab.er.rant User Ab.er.rant Sig.png 17:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I have 14 o_O- VanguardUser-VanguardAvatar.PNG 17:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
lol, 328 here. - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 17:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
14,932 here --Kakarot Talk 17:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
You lie!- VanguardUser-VanguardAvatar.PNG 17:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
the cake is a lie! - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 17:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
what is a watchlist? --Cursed Angel talk 00:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm having a hard time believing Kakarot as there isn't even that many pages according to the main page :P — Eloc 04:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Articles != Pages. Calor Talk 04:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Regardless, it's still hard to believe. — Eloc 04:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
It is. That's why it's a lie. If it's the truth, Kakarot, get out some more ;) Calor Talk 04:17, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) *fires up bot and starts adding pages from Special:Allpages to watchlist* — Galil Talk page 04:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I did that a while ago on some other wikis. They got annoyed at the bandwidth munching, though, so they made Special:Recentchanges to get me to stop. (Yes, it was an epic DoS-watchlist bot.) -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 05:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
@Eloc - the main page is where I got that number and then added around 100 to see how long it would take for someone to notice. --Kakarot Talk 14:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Armond, the recent changes tracks people adding pages to their watchlists? — Eloc 17:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Nah, but hypothetically sending out the data packets to add several thousand pages to my watchlist - all done in around five seconds - could crash stuff. Recent changes is kinda like a watchlist for the entire site, though. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 21:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Oh ok. — Eloc 04:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Valentine Day

happy v-day, eloc :D (and g'night...) - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 23:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

'night and thanks. — Eloc 23:52, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

eeek Welcome

eeek lol u keep beating me to the new users for welcomes --Shadowphoenix File:User-Shadowphoenix Heart1.jpg 23:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Yep, I'm just that good :P — Eloc 23:52, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

VDAY!!!!!

Happy Valentines Day Eloc XD --Shadowphoenix File:User-Shadowphoenix Heart1.jpg 23:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Ty XD — Eloc 23:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello!

I'm just gonna make a complete nuiscence of myself and put this on ur talk page.(Can u tell i'm mad?)--Sum Mesmer GuyMesmer 20:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Why are you mad? — Eloc 21:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
ya, it's actually normal... can we collect all these discussions on anja's page? she needs a higher spamquota. - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 21:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Huh? Did I miss something? — Eloc 21:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
go to anja's talk and look under the same section heading :P - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 21:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Sum Mesmer Guy spammed about a dozen of our pages, and Y0 wants to condense into some form of ultra-spam on Anja's page to meet her spam quota. Calor Talk 21:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
kk. — Eloc 21:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


aw, why did you remove all the -moz-border-radius? just because IE doesn't know what to do with it? - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 22:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Pretty much, ya. — Eloc 22:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
but it makes your page look better for mozilla users. :( - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 22:48, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok, lemme change it. — Eloc 22:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thankies ^^ - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 22:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Np. I hate how it's so spread out on FF though and the fact that FF doesn't allow usage of Alt-S or Alt-P. :( — Eloc 22:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
however, as a matter of fact, ff is far more developed concerning code interpretation. - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 23:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I dont think I have met the spam qouta yet either (i feel like a n00b wikier) :o( I have ony been spammed twice XD --Shadowphoenix User-Shadowphoenix Shadow Phoenix Signet.jpg 06:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

lol, you've got quite a way to go. I've been spammed quite a lot since I've first registered for GWW. I don't mind it though. I love new messages! :D — Eloc 07:52, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Stories

You don't want to listen to my stories on #pvx? Hmm? Is that it? Well, I curse you to eat the bladder of an english rat each day for supper! —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş User Grinshpon blinky cake.gif 22:22, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, back. — Eloc 22:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Gold Sinks

It doesn't have to be intentional to be a gold sink imo. --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 01:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

File:User Lord Belar Gold sink.jpg Lolwut? Lord Belar 04:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

That's definitely copper. Look at the red hue. --71.229@home kk 06:27, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
In regard to this --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 13:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

My sig

Happy now?--Sum Mesmer GuyUser sum mesmer guy signiture.png 08:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that image can't be taller than 19 pixels... I know it's only one pixel off, but it's a strict guideline because anything more than 19 pixels is also taller than the font, and therefore breaks up the flow of the text. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 09:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

U could b...

a sysop in my opinion. If you were to accept, i could get an application 4 u 2 b a sysop(if u want).--Sum Mesmer GuyUser sum mesmer guy signiture.png 11:30, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

:) Sure, if you wanted to nominate me, go right ahead. — Eloc 12:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

RFA

kk i've set up the page and given my support, but liche has given an opposing vote, so u may need 2 get some publicity. I'll help when appropriate.Guild Wars Wiki:Requests for adminship/Eloc Jcg--Sum Mesmer GuyUser sum mesmer guy signiture.png 12:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. — Eloc 23:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
r u gonna put a candidate statement on the RFA page?--Sum Mesmer GuyUser sum mesmer guy signiture.png 09:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Meh, what more is there too say? — Eloc 17:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Al aboard the fail train, tjoek tjoek ~ SCobraUser-SuperCobra-Sig.png 17:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
How are you even supposed to pronounce tjoek? — Eloc 17:10, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Chyeerk? --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ Talk 17:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
ta-joke? — Eloc 17:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
American butchered pronunciation ftw. Calor Talk 17:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Like in Tjoek Tjoek ~ SCobraUser-SuperCobra-Sig.png 17:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I always thought trains went "toot-toot!" — Eloc 17:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
No they go Tjoek Tjoek!! in the Netherlands ~ SCobraUser-SuperCobra-Sig.png 17:16, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Choo choo! Chuga chuga chuga chuga choo choo! --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ Talk 17:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Bork Bork Bork!- VanguardUser-VanguardAvatar.PNG 17:23, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
not quite what i was expecting under "RFA" o.O - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 19:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

riAnd this is what makes GWiki awesome!- VanguardUser-VanguardAvatar.PNG 19:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

the TOC can't be used to find out what discussion was where? - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 19:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Suppose not. — Eloc 05:12, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Userboxes

Hey Eloc I saw your Userbox Archive and I was wondering if you could help me fix my userboxes on my page to make them more "Organized" for me -- Ninja Dragon User Ninja Dragon Sig.png 00:24, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure, how many do you want per line? — Eloc 00:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
4 per line would be great and thank you.-- Ninja Dragon User Ninja Dragon Sig.png 00:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Done. How does that look? — Eloc 00:41, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Eloc has a lot of experience with userboxes :P --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ Talk 00:42, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Awesome, it looks just Awesome Thank You very much Eloc -- Ninja Dragon User Ninja Dragon Sig.png 00:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Np. — Eloc 00:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

GWW:HELPERS

Eloc, as mentioned on the talk page, if you remove names from the list, could you also go to their user pages and remove the infobox and category as well? Thanks. And you should leave note on their talk pages as to why you removed their names, like User talk:Tomoko. -- ab.er.rant User Ab.er.rant Sig.png 14:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Ok, I'll post a message on their talk page when I get time to do so if you haven't already. — Eloc 17:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Monk Skill Rewards Question

Eloc, you seem to know a lot about the wiki. could you look at Talk:Monk skill rewards and see if what we're saying there makes sense? I'm not sure how to change around gallery pages like that. Thanks. --User-Wandering Traveler Sig.png Wandering Traveler 04:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) It looks like Aberrant already put a point in on it. I don't know if there's anything else that needs to be addressed on that talk page after what aberrant said...is there? — Eloc 17:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I think we're ok now. aberrant answered right as I posted this. sorry about that >.< The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wandering Traveler (talk • contribs) at 03:13, 21 February 2008 (UTC) (UTC).
Np. — Eloc 05:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

vent

do we have a vent server? if so, could you tell me the login stuff please? - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 21:23, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Ya, we do, lol. I'll (re)post it into the announcements when I get a chance to get online. — Eloc 05:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Found some awesome userboxes

w-('u')-w Here's an awesome page with tons of userboxes for your archive -- Ninja Dragon User Ninja Dragon sig.png 22:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

This is why I hover over links and check diffs. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 22:45, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I walked right into that. /wrists. And I rickroll'd Shadowphoenix on my page just an hour ago. Sigh... Calor Talk 23:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Lol --75.73.207.233 23:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I saw the link when I went to click edit to just remove an extra space. — Eloc 05:08, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

oh noez! u got rickroll'D! - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 20:32, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey Eloc BTW are those ? marks in front and behind your name JIS symbols?☺☻♪♫-- Ninja Dragon User Ninja Dragon sig.png 22:22, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Don't know. — Eloc 23:31, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
those are japanese kana. you need to install the japanese letter set to display them. - Y0_ich_halt Have a look at my page 16:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Check This Out

Hey there make sure u check this out and post here User:Shadowphoenix/User Birthdays --Shadowphoenix User-Shadowphoenix Shadow Phoenix Signet.jpg 04:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Done. — Eloc 05:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
ty XD --Shadowphoenix User-Shadowphoenix Shadow Phoenix Signet.jpg 05:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Np. — Eloc 05:13, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Inactive alliance member

Is Guild:The Kings Of Royal Mightiness still active? -- ab.er.rant User Ab.er.rant Sig.png 11:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Nope. — Eloc 17:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Check out my quizes, the links are on the front page of my userpage Here Post a link and your results on your user page, I want to get everyone doing these quizes :D --Crypto 17:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Image

Your image at the bottom of ur page is a little disturbing lol XD --Shadowphoenix User-Shadowphoenix Shadow Phoenix Signet.jpg 05:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

How so? — Eloc 06:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Other Guild Pages

Eloc if you don't belong to a guild then don't edit their guild page please - thx --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Fil (talk).

He fixed the link for you, that's all. Also, please start new sections with a header and sign your comments with four tildes (~). Calor Talk 17:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Song of the Day

You know, it might be a good idea to create a User:Eloc Jcg/Song of the Day and include it in your user page rather than having your user page show up on watchlists daily. Too many trivial changes might discourage users from looking at what changed and thus miss more important changes. -- ab.er.rant User Ab.er.rant Sig.png 15:12, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Good suggestion. I'll get right on that. — Eloc 17:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey Eloc!

How's life? Got myself a tormented shield so I'm all happy :). Dark Morphon(contribs) 17:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Gratz on that. I got a Tormented Staff :D — Eloc 03:02, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the sig help mate, your a wee star! :) -- Salome User salome sig.png 18:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Np. — Eloc 03:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Correct

But have a made a post that would require me to log in for? Some of us are lurkers, we choose not to have accounts on purpose. ;| --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:63.126.183.110 (talk).

No, not technically, but assuming Eloc is correct is assuming you're an ANet staff member, it would be smart to be signed in when posting so players reading the page can be assured that ANet is working on the task. Because a lot of people don't trust IP posters. Calor Talk 22:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
That's the point though. I don't post. Until.. now. Lol, when Eloc called me out on my talk page.  ;| Which is why I was asking if I had made a post (that I forgot about). Many of us at Anet don't post due to PR reasons or choose not to post. -Chelsea Kibler
It seems you or someone behind your IP has. :P — Galil Talk page 00:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I spoke with some of the more wiki savvy here. Apparently, it's a shared IP and I just happened to be assigned it today. It seems some others from various departments have posted with it in the past. I was confused as to how I got a message when I haven't posted in the past.  :] So, Eloc, in the future so you know, this IP isn't tied to anyone in the building in particular. -Chelsea
Ya, I know it's no one in particular, but I knew for sure that it was ArenaNets IP adress considering the majority of the contributions involve ArenaNet staff user pages. The reason you got the message is because you just happened to be the first one that checked the wiki at the time and the message just popped up for you. By the way, nice to meet you Chelsea :) — Eloc 03:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Spaces in between topics

Hey Eloc, could you leave the line spaces in between talk topics please - removing them or adding them when it's unnecessary just pings many watchlists and the new message box for that user. It's understandable if it's to fix a major problem with the formatting of a page or something, but I don't really see why it should be done otherwise. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ Talk 23:38, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Why keep the space there? It's pretty easy to tell what the edit was in your watchlist as it will just say -1. — Eloc 23:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
But it's still irritating and it's just pointless to remove them. - anja talk 23:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
How is it irritating? It's just regular day editing. — Eloc 23:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict x2) I ignore the number, even if it's bolded. I don't diff-check talk pages either, meaning there's a little extra pointless work, and the new messages box is still pinged up regardless. To be honest, why remove the space? It's not doing any harm by staying there, so I don't see why you would want to remove it anyway. Is the gap irritating for you? --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ Talk 23:47, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Sure it is, that's why I remove it. I'll try to remember not to remove the gaps, but I might forget sometimes. — Eloc 00:05, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

First

Hey doods, this my fist talk, cya `round! --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Vperez1 (talk).

Hiya there. — Eloc 02:09, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

User:64.178.154.131

Don't revert. I'm not alone with that opinion. It wasn't a speedy so let people argue if they don't agree. — Galil Talk page 03:14, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Eloc is certainly not alone in doing that. While I agree that IPs should not be considered 'owned' in principle, if someone wants to get in touch with an editor, having a way to find out that an IP is most likely used by a certain user would be helpful, no? Backsword 03:20, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
It's a double edged sword, though. Say someone else gets that IP later and starts vandalizing. Would we then just assume it was Eloc? — Galil Talk page 03:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes. Backsword 03:27, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Well, considering I live in a small town, and I'm like one of the only 2 who plays GuildWars, I highly doubt anyone will start vandalizing. My IP doesn't change, look how long I've had it for. Heck, it has almost been a year and I've still had the same IP. — Eloc 03:29, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
IP addresses aren't bound by town, unless you have a seriously local ISP, and how long you've had your IP is irrelevant, IMO anyway. One shouldn't be able to claim ownage of an IP, and it would seem ab.er.rant is of the same opinion, but I don't care enough to argue about it. — Galil Talk page 03:36, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Then why mark it for deletion? If anyone vandalizes through that IP, I'll take full responsibility for it, ok? — Eloc 16:09, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
For the same reason he mentioned in the delete tag, you can't claim complete ownership of an IP address even if you have a static IP. I too have a static IP address, had the same IP address for ages then it got changed; by my ISP for whatever reason; to my present one which hasn't changed since. Personally I would of tagged it speedy U2; as would of a number of others; for exactly the same reason as Galil, as your IP can be changed at any time by your ISP. Since you do all your edits logged in why would you need to have an IP address redirected to your userpage anyway Eloc, it's not like you can add it's contributions to your own? --Kakarot Talk 17:35, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
As I've said before, cause anon user pages shouldn't exist since you can't claim ownership of an IP. I reverted your removal of the deletion tags since I'm also of the opinion that you do not remove delete tags without discussing it, you definitely do not remove a deletion tag without giving a reason other than "says you", and you especially do not remove deletion tags on pages you created yourself. If you think they should stay you're entitled to that opinion, but argue about it first. — Galil Talk page 18:10, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I am with Galil on this, you can not claim IP's as your own, there is a reason for logging in. and removing the deletion tag just because you disagree is the best way to start revert wars, please discuss in the future. --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 00:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Deletion tags should not be reverted period without discussion, except in cases of vandalism. Their purpose is to start discussion, and reverting them runs contrary to that purpose. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 00:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok. — Eloc 00:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Reminder

remember i wont have access 2 my computer for a few weeks. (so plz don't kick me!)-- Sum Mesmer Guy

You

need to archive. Lord Belar 19:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

agree you need to archive Eloc.--話す priestess donut 寄付19:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC)