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Linsey, I cannot tell you how much love and appreciation that I have for you and the live team. I have quit playing Guild Wars because I was constantly playing only one character which limited my play. Now that they are account based I can now totally immerse myself in the other profession and play whatever it is people need me to play without being a major peenwad about it. Thank you so much for giving us back our ability to play other profession without much consequence. 19:03, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Cool!!! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 05:45, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


First thing: Man, this page is long - WARNING: This page is 395 kilobytes long but I refuse to stop posting ^_^ Second thing: Anyone seen Linsey, or if Linsey is reading this, "Linsey, have you seen Linsey lately?". Maybe its because I've been playing in a new backyard and am going to be heavily distract soon as well (G.E.C.K FTW) but I haven't notice you around the playground. Third thing: Anyone know what the next update is going to be? This last one stopped short for me, but I am interested in knowing whats next. -- 22:43, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Hope the next one is the HoM update, it was announced six months ago now. Sadie2k 23:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Doubtful. I think the HoM update will come only in the second half of next year. The December update is IMO going to be a small one, just minor skill balances like the first update this month. Between the fallout from the last update, Thanksgiving, the holidays later on (which demand resources, as Arena Net has to implement the Wintersday build and prepare for the event) and etc, I doubt we'll get much. Erasculio 23:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Erasculio, I doubt we'll see the HoM update any time soon, but I'd love to hear more details on how its exactly going to look. HoM is one of the only things keeping me on Guild Wars at the moment, so thats one of my "must have info" on subjects. Votes they develop a software system that makes repeating Festivals and events easier to impliment so they can focus on more important stuff. -- 23:36, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I would hope that Linsey is currently spending some time with her family for the Thanksgiving weekend and that we won't see much more of her, if anything at all, till Tuesday or so. As for why we haven't seen much of her this week, I'd imagine she's been working hard on whatever her current project is so the holiday weekend doesn't put her too far behind. Of course, this is all supposition based on the hope that Linsey can still occasionally take some time to enjoy herself with family and non-work friends. - Tanetris 03:55, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Needless to say, I have been quite the busy bee. I'm trying to dedicate some more time to my wiki, so hopefully you all will be seeing me around more. :D - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 05:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Work Box

A Leap of Faith was ont here twice. I removed it.--User Fire Tock sig.jpgFireTock 14:38, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, i removed one copy, The Quest is still on there, just not twice.--User Fire Tock sig.jpgFireTock 14:39, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
kk thanks! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 06:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

dear linsey

No offense but I would like to present to you the other side of "fun" skills : User lilondra scrub.jpg

This is what happens when people think they are good because they run certain skills.I was running old school gale warrior on that time. Lilondra User Lilondra Eviscerate.jpg*gale* 09:59, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I love the random "what pokemon are you?" ~~ User:Frvwfr2 frvwfr2 (talk · contributions) 21:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Bad players will think they're good until pvp becomes competitive and skill matters. ~Shard User Shard Sig Icon.png 22:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Sweeping generalisations ftl. This bad player is painfully aware of how bad she is, depite never playing in the hardcore arenas. (I have 5 fame, hah.) Of course, I'm bad because I never play, and I never play because I'm embarrassed about how bad I am. So perhaps a little arrogance is necessary for PvP. Shame. --Mme. User Mme. Donelle sig.jpgDonelle 00:54, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I am not sure what you mean with that comment. People have always made wrong assumptions, even before Guild Wars. And people thought they were good even when they're not even before computers were invented. So I fail to see what this has to do with Palm Strike, really. Please enlighten me if I missed something. 09:26, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
He is saying he's a better player then me BECAUSE he runs palm strike.Palm strike is seen as a OP skill by most of the community even after the nerf.My point is that skills like these actually give these players a reason to say they are better.They no longer have to be retarded to render you unable to beat them with logic.Lilondra User Lilondra Disrupting Dagger.jpg*Poke* 11:31, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
The Nerf To PS was a Slight buff in ways as it now goes Under Spiritbond, unless u have like 16 in the Attribute, but thats jut my opinon --TalkWild 12:52, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Just tell him you like a challenge by winning through skill instead of skills. That being said, I don't agree that your example says anything about the skill itself. People claim to be better than others for various reasons and most of them are as invalid as this one. But to change a skill because some other player says he's better than you...that's a rather odd reason to ask for a nerf, don't you agree? 22:21, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

This is why I don't PvP, which automatically makes me better than anyone else. :P But seriously, nothing says "I'm better than you!", more than defeating them in combat, in a fake world, with a fake character, with skills that don't really exist. PvP isn't, or at least, shouldn't be about who is better than whom, but rather, 'are you having fun?'. Because, after all, it's just a game, and anyone can beat anyone given the right circumstances. That's the whole point of making the game relatively balanced; so that any player, using the right skill set at the right time and place can tip the balance in their favor. In subsequent battles, that balance might be tipped the other way. Personally, I'd prefer it if players stopped claiming how they're better than anyone else, and just be happy with playing the game, win or lose. After all, even anyone with rank knows what it's like to be defeated, thus making them 'not better' at that time. :P--Cattivo 04:57, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

You guys mind if I move to my talk page reformulate my point and we discuss it further there ? Lilondra User Lilondra Disrupting Dagger.jpg*Poke* 07:02, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

It's true, that a PS assassin can do more damage than a Shock/Gale axe, because the axe needs 12(bull) or 30(exhaustion) seconds to recharge a spike, and the Palm Striker can do it every 8 seconds.Boro 10px‎ 07:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
depite never playing in the hardcore arenas. (I have 5 fame, hah.) ... hah --adrin User Adrin ecto sig.png 02:42, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Uhmm... yeah. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 08:17, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Congrats on the interview!

...Although 8 to 10 months from now, when your schedule finally allows you to look at this, you'll likely think "What interview?" : D Don't worry with the demotion comments, I think everyone here knows it was a promotion, after all the nice work you had done in Nightfall and GW:EN. The link to the interview is broken, though; it has one extra |little directing it to a 404. Erasculio 09:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Link fixed (you coulda done that Erasculio :P) and nice interview. I would not sweat those people who say you were demoted, they just don't get it. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 10:31, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, I think enough people got your back against the naysayers. :) Thanks again for the interview! --Ravious 12:52, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
No pouting allowed, Linsey! Don't let some silly people get you down. :) Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 12:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words folks! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 18:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


Lindsey could you comment on this? It was posted without any source information. If we don't get some confirmation it will be deleted. Thanks! --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 14:10, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

nvm, it got deleted. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 14:47, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I have no comment! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 18:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Xmas in EotN this year?

If you did that I would be extremely amazed?--Silverleaf User Silverleaf sig.pngDon't assume, ask! 19:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I just want my shards to show up in EOTN, that's all I ask. ^^" Katherinezoltin 23:53, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
i would love to see those city's decorated for it along with Santa hats on the asuren75.165.101.64 00:00, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Prepare to be amazed my friend!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA now you know why I have been going crazy between this and yesterdays skill update. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 19:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
You made my wintersday again Linsey!!..Merry Wintersday and Merry Xmas with your family. Don't fall asleep at Xmas dinner after all that work ;-). --Silverleaf User Silverleaf sig.pngDon't assume, ask! 21:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Now it sucks more that my desktop is down for the count. Dad promises to have it fixed soon but seriously, Wintersday starts the day AFTER my classes are done and my break starts. Glad my boyfriend plays GW with me so he will understand my urge to hide in my room and never come out. Katherinezoltin 21:54, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I hope people enjoyed the new content. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 20:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I like

your quests a lot...they are creative, i think it would be good to the game if u would give us an e-mail where ppl can send some ideas about new quests or to replace some boring ones coz most proph quests sux...they should have some own interesting story rather than kill X monsters of Y type, kill Z boss and collect V salvage items or could also add some unique reward to them like...a salvage kit, a bag, some dyes, some gold, a bit more xp(to the proph ones), some materials or maybe some little new items...:) i hope u like the idea -- Practiced Stance.jpgWuhy 17:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. I'm sorry but I don't have the time to sift through hundreds of emails with quest suggestions. I already have tons of work on my plate. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 20:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Archive request

Hi Linsey! I know you are crazy busy with the Wintersday build, but could you please spend a little time and get some of this archived? Your page is over 477kb and is becoming difficult for even high speed users to load. (MediaWiki recommends nothing over 32kb) Thanks again for EVERYTHING you do for us, and sorry to add this to the list! --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 16:43, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Heh, I know I know, it's really bad. I PROMISE, I will spend a couple days archiving and answering questions once the Wintersday build is out next week. Promise! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 02:48, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Linsey's Promise Linsey's Promise -

5 Energy¾ Activation time45 Recharge time - "For 3..17..20 seconds, Linsey is enchanted with Linsey's Promise. If her promise comes true while under the effect of this enchantment, paradise will be on earth. If not, the community will complain and then forgive her."

=D Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 23:35, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Nothing to do Linsey =D your spell is still strippable =D hey, you need a buff =D. -- San Matteo 19:35, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
If you strip something off of Linsey I wonder if she did not smack that one trying. <.< Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 22:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

OMG I'm working on it! Gawddddd :P - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 20:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Linsey!


She is ever so beautifull. --Silverleaf User Silverleaf sig.pngDon't assume, Know! 17:13, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

because i think you are thanking her for the bear. instead of starting a new topic ill just inject this here. and that is will the new pet be charm able well after the event is over or will it be a you only get it once. a year thing? also thanks for all the work done on eotn it looks really really good. now for ratsum and gunners maybe next year?! 11:15, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Dragon Festival in Rata Sum gogo! :P Seriously though, thanks for Jingles, he is adorable. :) WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 12:30, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
This is a moral imperative, Linsey: Tamable Nian for the Dragon Festival this year! --User mrsmiles tinysmile.png MrSmiles 19:53, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, it's super cool. I immediatly ditched my Rainbow Phoenix and now Chris (Barber) and I are a team. Oh, and happy holidays to you! 08:42, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I love my bear, I gave him to Gwen because one quest deals with her and Im still deciding between Rainbow Phoenix and White Moa. Choices...choices... Katherinezoltin 05:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be nice to not have to make those choices, and be able to own every pet on one character? :P I know it's a suggestion that's been made several times. Too bad it's unlikely to happen, because I'd like to have my choice of pets without having to reacquire them, which would be tough to do with the jingle bear, since you'd have to wait an entire year. :( Otherwise, thank you Linsey for at least adding it.-- 16:34, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Glad you folks like him! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 23:55, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


fix it

Happy holidays. Vael Victus Pancakes. 19:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Linsey, is it okay if we archive some of the older questions that have been answered by you and have not been changed in say a week. Or do you want to archive them yourself? ~ KurdUser Kurd sig.png 08:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
If you read a few sections above, you will see she promised to deal with it once the Wintersday builds were done. I think we can trust her to keep her promise... let her enjoy her holiday. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 08:55, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
While I agree that it would be wise in terms of size if someone else archived it, some things that might seem to be answered might not be, as such Linsey would then not get to it - unless a new archive page is made for Linsey to browse through later. But I'm sure by mid-January that this page will be archived and much much shorter. Linsey has yet to fail us after all. :) -- KonigDesTodes 10:34, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Haha yeah I know. I would love to dig into it, but I have family in town visiting for the holidays and I think they would kill me if I spent my time off working on the wiki. Heh. Once things get back to normal I promise I will fix things up. -User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 03:10, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
517kb is HUGE XD — Jon 19:27, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Just so you know that this is seriously breaking most browsers. We chose to leave it like this hoping it would stop the accumulation since you promised you would deal with it. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 19:32, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Linsey, given how big this page is, if you want you could tag the sections you have read and replied to for us to archive. For example, you could edit the end of a section you have already replied to with "Questions archive after 7 days" and one of us would archive it, 7 days after your reply, on the latest Questions archive. Erasculio 10:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Linsey, would it be helpful/useful if we found a way to tag especialy large topics so they may be address and archived first so as to cut down on your page size in a quicker fassion? — Jon Lupen 21:07, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

IT IS STILL HUGE LIKE XBOX - fix it Vael Victus Pancakes. 18:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
If you haven't noticed, she's been trying, but people add to it faster than she can reply. I think she's been a real trooper about trying to respond to it all, including our requests to archive. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn/talk 11:53, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, she's the best. 22:47, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah yeah yeah, I'm working on it. This will be like the fourth or fifth time I archive a subject like this. You are adding to the problem! Obviously the page is big.... - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 00:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Tnx for the wintersday card

I tell you this because you have asked me to do so. I liked to thank every member of Arenanet for the wintersday card. I got it today 24dec between my birthday(23dec) and chrismass(25dec). A real good timing, tnx again. Death Slighertalk: Death Sligher 00:37, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

For the people who want to see the card but beware Spoiler so dont click if you dont want to see it yet: And here the inside with the other text and the signature's are you in it linsey? ^^ Death Slighertalk: Death Sligher 00:56, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Ah, very nice card again :) Merry Christmas ArenaNet team :) poke | talk 01:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
*___* Oooh, Pywatt's talons wrote on your card. Mewantstehmfasternowmoar. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 02:51, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Pywatt's talons are daggers Oo 11:48, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
I was referring to the daggers as well as to the hands (talons) of Patrick_Wyatt (Pywatt). Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 14:30, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Wauw...lucky you :)..and a very nice card indeed.--Silverleaf Special:Contributions/SilverleafDon't assume, Know! 20:49, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I want a card! *mumble mumble with envious looks* Nah congrats on the card, it's lovely. :) -- Salome User salome sig2.png 21:06, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Glad you like the card and happy to hear it came at the perfect time! Sadly, I do not see my signature there. Maybe next year :) - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 00:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

WoW or Guild Wars?

I want your opinion on something. Have you ever played WoW? If WoW was free just like GW would you say GW or WoW was better? Im saying if you where a reguler player and had played both games, which would be better in your opinion? Thanks! 05:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't play a free WoW (can't stand it's art style and a few other things) but I would pay WoW's monthly fees for GW if it had regular new content updates and a large (40+) Live Team full of people as awesome as Linsey ;)--YawgYawg 11:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
I also wouldn't play a free WoW, but I would pay for Guild Wars if the game kept its current philosophy and had a large Live Team. Erasculio 11:37, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Well... the game's current phylosophy is grind. Do you want it to be kept? Do you want titles to give unfair advantage for grinders? (conclusion: discrimination based on title) Boro 10px‎ 16:43, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

The games current phylosophy is what you make it to be. If you're done with all content and feel the need to keep playing and start grinding it's your own choice. It's not like someone will care about the fancy green weapon you get in GW2 for a full HoM. For me, this game is done because I never find people to play normal missions anymore and PvP is a joke with all the hero-teams.

Well... "It's not like someone will care about the fancy green weapon you get in GW2 for a full HoM." Untill it gives you more damage/armor/health/energy than weapons you are normally able to get. If titles/grinds give you unfair advantage over casual players, and you will get discriminated from a group JUST because you didn't kill the same monster 297839 times, things go broken and (this is where boldicize and allcaps are intended) PLAYERS LEAVE THE GAME Boro 10px‎ 17:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
what if it just gives you a stronger weapon in the starting area (akin to GotY weapons)? Or new skins automatically customized? --JonTheMon 17:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

What I find interesting with WoW is that it is a game based on lore. Lore from its previous titles and just the simple history of the game. What excites me the most is that when GW2 comes out we are going to have the lore from GW1 to fuel this new game. People are going to be speaking of the titans, Shiro the fall of Abbadon, and the destroyers. Our gw1 characters were there to experience it and find that very exciting to be a part of GW history.

If you ask me, WoW took the existing lore for the strategy game and bent it into a barely-recognisable shark-jumping pretzel in order to squeeze it into an MMO-shaped box. WoW's lore doesn't even agree with events in Frozen Throne, an expansion that was essentially explicitly designed to set up WoW in a similar way as EOTN is intended to work for GW2. Draxynnic 03:28, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, WoW's philosophy is to have grind. Guild Wars follows an idea to have as little grind as possible, as seen on the low level cap, on how maxed weapons are easy to get, on how most accomplishments on the game are purely aesthetic (weapon skins, expensive armor, most titles), and etc. In other hand, Guild Wars has had a strong power creep, with skills from Nightfall being more powerful than most of the things in Prophecies. That's to be expected - grind is required in a game with a monthly fee, in order to keep players around, and power creep is expected in a game which releases multiple expansions, in order to keep players buying new stuff. As long as Guild Wars doesn't follow the WoW philosophy of "as much grind as possible", I would be willing to pay a monthly fee if we had a large Live Team capable of adding new content to the game. Erasculio 17:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

While this was true at one point (Prophecies, the moment Factions came out, and especially when they added titles, grind became EVERYTHING in GW. It's only gotten worse and worse with each update to the game (though Linsey is slowly working at bringing the game back to what brought us to it and removing what drove us away.), sadly. --Emkyooess 23:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
The the OP: It depends on what you want. However, having played both (I played WoW more than once on the 10 day trial), I would gladly pay a subscription to play GW, and I still can't get myself to justify the subscription fee on WoW. I'd buy WoW if it had no subscription fee in a heartbeat though. WoW has great lore, a few more tools for players (e.g. for trading), works well as a social network / casual game. But it's grind is there, and frankly, I find the combat not as exciting as GW. I also hate having to run everywhere by foot in WoW, and transportation methods are too far to be of much use. And in WoW, I find that many things are just implemented to make me waste valuable gaming time. In contrast, GW does not make me waste my time. I can log in, map travel to where I want, and start accomplishing something now. In short, each have their strenghts and weaknesses, and I prefer GW's design choices & philosophy. -- Alaris_sig Alaris 21:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Throws in my 2 cents. I enjoy both. WoW has stuff Guild Wars doesn't, and Guild Wars has elements that WoW doesn't have. I would play both if I could afford it and have the time - to be honest when I compare the two the most enjoyable stuff that comes to mind is WoW with it's mining and fishing, and cooking, stuff that GW doesn't have. I like games that are fun and challenging, but when I want to relax fishing and mining was fun and not really grinding because I would just get material, make stuff and give it away, can't really do it that way in Guild Wars, well, I can I have given over 1000K away in armor, weapons, minipets etc but most of that came from grind. Right now, to finish off elements of Guild Wars I have to grind myself senseless. User Aba Malatu sig.png Aba Malatu means Forbidden Truth 23:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I have played WoW. I am able to afford the subscription fee now and I think it is important to play as many different games as I can stomach. I tend to be the type to spend thousands of hours on a few games rather than a dozen or so hours on many games. When I first picked up the game I did my usual geek out and played it pretty hard core for a little while as I tend to do with games I get in to. I hit 70 and did a bunch of raiding, making it to Black Temple before getting bored/not having the time to raid any more. So I went back to Guild Wars until WotLK came out and I picked that up, did the initial grind up to 80 and got bored again.
I'm not going to bother saying that I think one game is better than the other since it is so subjective (and saying Guild Wars will just make me look biased :P) and I do think that each game has it's own pluses and minuses. I do think that the games are so different that it really depends on the person.
I have played a lot more of Guild Wars. And I do mean a LOT. Around 3-4 times as much and I gave WoW a fair shot. I have a lot more fantastic memories of playing Guild Wars and I do think that overall, I have had more fun playing Guild Wars than I did playing WoW. I had played more Guild Wars before applying for a job at ArenaNet than I have played WoW to date so it is not just because I work here. I have had much longer Guild Wars marathons than I have in WoW. Sure, I have spent an entire days playing WoW (12-16 hours at a time), but I've done GW marathons that have lasted entire weekends with no sleep. I've made better friends, been in better guilds and met more generous, helpful people in GW than I did in WoW. Does that mean that Guild Wars is a better game? I don't know, but maybe it was for me. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 01:45, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Go Little Mean Guy!

Love love love the tonic for this month. Hope i get one. Go Cerebral Tonic! 19:42, 8 January 2009 (UTC)Lulu

Hate hate hate hate hate the tonic for this month. I hope i get one to sell to people like lulu. Seriously though, how many people liked / hated this one? Curious to know. My guild think its crap at least, so u got like 20 ppl against it already :) 21:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Love it =P It does make me really want GW2 though... then it wont cost thousands of gold to become an asura =D Ashes Of Doom Talk 22:24, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
There's no accountin for ppl's tastes I guess. My fugly and crappy is "love it" for a bunch of other... ppl. Just do me a favor. Before the monthly tonics stop changing, make an essence of dragon tonic. I'll love you forever and ever. Thx. 22:35, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Odds are I won't have one drop for me anyway, not even a normal one, so I don't really care about what it looks like. My only wish for the zaishen chest rewards is to have at least the normal consumables either have a lower drop rate than higher end items, or when the consumables do drop for someone they drop in a higher quantity, such as 5 or 10 or more flasks of firewater rather than just 1. It would at least make you feel a little better about using a 5k key and getting a normal item drop. But that's just me.-- 02:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Isn't the piece of a Z-key determined by the players though? Why change the contents of the chest when players could just lower the price to buy/sell keys. I don't recall seeing anywhere that Arenanet set the price at 5K, that was the players. 03:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Well you do have a point there, but by the natural rarity of the key itself and the means by which it is attained, this does help the players to price it at 5k. In other words, if ANET made the keys 'droprate' or 'attain rate' much higher than it currently is, then the players would likely reduce the price of the keys. Supply and demand of course. Still, would like the regular consumables to drop in higher quantities because even if the keys were only 500g each it would be a disappointment to get 1 flask of fire water or 1 creme brulee.--Cattivo 04:45, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Zkeys will be ~5k as long as they cost 5,000 balth faction; simple. Vili User talk:Vili 08:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
I'd like a Mursaat or Mallyx tonic, while we're taking requests. And it'd be nice if we could use them in non-PvP explorable areas and missions and stuff. You can use the elf and candy ones outside of town, I don't know why it's unreasonable to use the others. To answer the original question, no, I do not like this month's tonic, as it is EotN-related. The campaign should be retconned, in my opinion. --Jette User Jette awesome.png 11:39, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
@Vili: very insightful understanding of economics. No, really, price is set by supply and demand, and judging by my trading experience last night, I'd say the price is about 4.7k already. It was hard to sell at 5k, but easy at 4.9k. It was also relatively easy to buy at 4.5k. Of course, that could be because of the rapid influx at the time, but then again, anyone who wants to buy those keys would also be present. -- Alaris_sig Alaris 14:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
(resetting some indent)Hmm.. That's not completely correct. The first time Zkeys came out the price was around 2.5-3.6 (i forgot) - even though people knew very expensive items came out of it. The addition of other tonics then the rollerbeetle one didn't raise the price - but the title did. Before this raise it was even cheaper to unlock with Balthz poins and buy tomes when you needed a skill. The prices will drop over time - since there is no real estimate for the average rewards and people are (ab)using the xunlai rewards to make large profits in selling. Because more and more keys are being input and the much smaller group of buyers want to take the best price they can (because of the profit insecurity) - prices drop and more buyers will jump in. More people want to max their titles and prices will raise again, but never above 5k. Over a long period of time you'll see the prices head toward some kind of compromise. I'd say between 4.3k-4.8k. I'm not sure what the effect of Ecto's will be on this matter though. This discussion might better me moved to Zkeys talk or something similar though. --User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 18:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Since there are requests in this section already, I would love to see three specific tonics: Tengu, Charr, and Mursaat. I'm sure those would all be loved. Since two of the four non-human playable races for GW2 have tonics, why not all four. But while Sylvari would be nice, it probably won't happen due to no model existing in the game. -- Konig Des Todes 20:17, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Why am I having deja-vu? Maybe because we discussed zkey prices before (may even have been on this talkpage) and the general conclusion was that you can't use economics on Guild Wars at all? Vili User talk:Vili 09:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Actually you can.. I've seen many trends that are predictable. As long as ANet doesn't change anything everything is quite predictable. For example the dust prices during cantha new year, ecto prices and meta builds during holidays - even charcoal during Wintersday. Prices go up and down over time in any stable economy. If someone pulls too much in one direction - it breaks. Even though you can't know everything about the amount or ingame chances - everything is quite predictable by just looking at the amount of players and the rate certain resources are coming in. --User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 12:10, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I like the Cerebral Tonic. It's all subjective. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 06:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Diggin' the Small Text Comments

That is all. It is just so nice to hear honesty, even if it is not what people want to hear. Hopefully markesting blinders is not able to read the text size at which you write your sooth. Keep up the great work here and in game (and hopefully ArenaNet decides eventually to add in some dev time for wiki works). --Ravious 16:56, 12 January 2009 (UTC) Yes, I am awesome. :pppppp

I actually don't want to have time added for wiki works. For me personally at least. I think my time is better spent developing new content or features for the game than working on the wiki. I love you guys and I do feel super guilty for neglecting things over here but the work that is really my job is way more fun, way more exciting and in the end it will be much more appreciated pound for pound by the overall player population than the work I do here. Do you know what I mean? Obviously I think the work I do on the wiki is really important otherwise I wouldn't be spending my evenings and weekends doing it. I just think that the more time I can spend on building content, the more everyone benefits. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 06:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Cantha New Year

Hi - Will the Cantha New Year Festival be the weekend of January 26th to coincide with Chinese New Year in the real world? 06:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

According to Gaile, it's going to be the following weekend. January 30th through February 2nd.--Pyron Sy 11:21, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Heh, oops I'm late. You guys should have figured out by now that asking me time sensitive questions just doesn't work lol. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 06:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Reflection: Guild Wars 2008

So 2008 is done and over. Do you think 2008 was a good year for Guild Wars? The first year that we didn't receive an expansion, a couple major updates, but not really any new content, other then Mox. Dero Ahmonati

I would certainly like to see new explorable areas added to the pve game, even if it is just for the sake of having a change of scenery. MOX and the fire imp, the title balance update, these were all very good things. I'd have liked to see new features and content though. 00:36, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I agree they were very good things, but compared to other years, where we have expansions stand alones and BMP, which this year seemed to lack.
Agreed. We can blame GW2 for that, I suppose. I'm really disappointed, the conjecture and extrapolation made about Utopia makes EOTN seem even more disappointing. The idea of Chronomancer and time manipulation magic mentioned about Utopia would have made a much better bridge to GW2. Regina's 20090109 Journal post indicates that they have something for GW1 in the works, though, so maybe 2009 will be a better year. 06:53, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I think we finished the year strong and I think 2009 will be awesome. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 06:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Everlasting Sinster tonic again sorry

some nub on guru keeps saying its now in the game and a drop from the zchest. can you confirm that this is the truth? or that this screen is real? thanks sorry to bother you or waste your time i know you said on Emily talk page that it wasn't in the game yet. 11:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm curios too, her last reply to this was 2 months ago ~ KurdUser Kurd sig.png 20:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
We did add it to the zchest last month as a year round, super rare drop. Wanted to wait until someone found it before saying anything :D - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 23:39, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Good job keeping it a secret, we almost thought the screens were a hoax ~ KurdUser Kurd sig.png 23:54, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, it was pretty darn easy since we didn't decide to do it until right before we did. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 02:22, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
That makes sense...... i guess ~ KurdUser Kurd sig.png 17:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

2009 Plans

Hi Linsey,

When will we hear about the plans for guild wars for 2009. I noticed a couple Journal entries from your co-workers that there are some exciting news that we will soon hear about. Any ideas on when we can expect that news? Thanks a bunch!

For me, if its more useless consumables that isn't exciting but they were excited about that so... o.O If its getting important stuff done, the HoM finished then that'd be exciting... actually new content (barring ridiciously add ons like that recent consumables) and the HoM is the only thing that would get my excited. Though, I can see them crafting a consumable that summons a rabbit to bite at the ankles of your enemies. 19:29, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Behold, i'm pretty sure it will be a new festival hat or something like that. Arent we excited :) Yseron 19:36, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Its hard to get excited on what gets them excited, because stuff they've worked on which was exciting for them, like skill updates or title updates is stuff the community has been wanting to ages. Yeehah! You've listened to us after so many years... thats exciting, I suppose ^_^
I want a festival Moon hat ;) 19:44, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Only thing i want to hear (and see) about is GW2 -- 19:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I think the only thing that I would find exciting is new GW1 content. After reading those journal posts, I was excited about the possibility of it (a 4th chapter or expansion) but, then I remembered aNet's commitment to no new GW1 content. Come on, aNet, release another chapter or something for us to spend $50 each on so you can invest more in GW2! 06:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I believe that most of these questions have been answered by today's ArenaNet:Developer updates. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn/talk 19:37, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


I know it has been asked before but can't you guys make a timer on the main site which shows when event's start and weekend events and that sort of things that would be easier for alot of people to change the time in their timelinetable etc. I hope that you would look into this again. Death Slighertalk: Death Sligher 09:54, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

That's a question for Emily Diehl right? She's the webmaster here. 21:18, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Owh ok will it post there aswell. Death Slighertalk: Death Sligher 21:47, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

This sounds like a even better idea if it were actually added to the game as well. Maybe even just something that could be added to the options window during special event weekends.--Cattivo 03:52, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah Emily is the one to see about that. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 03:42, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Canthan New Year

Could you let us know if the recipe ingredients for the chefs during the finale is going to change this year? It takes a while to farm the ingredients and it would be a huge letdown to find it requires a whole bunch of stuff from the farflung places in EOTN that a lot of us have never even got to yet. --Emkyooess 13:49, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

give us other way to achieve lucky/unlucky titles please. Boro 10px‎ 16:47, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
A new hat, my kingdom for a new hat! (NIAN HAT!!! not the lion one)-- Salome User salome sig2.png 20:51, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Canthan New Year doesn't give hats. I have made no changes to the recipes used in the finale. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 01:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Doesnt it give that ugly lion hat thingy? -- Salome User salome sig2.png 01:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
pretty sure it does -FireFox User FireFox av.png 03:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

A suggestion

Hi Linsey! I would like to make a couple of suggestions regarding your talk page. I know you are doing your best to get caught up, but while doing so, you are just creating more of a monster. This page is currently over 300k, and your temp archive has also reached the 300k mark. I would like to suggest a temporary protection of your talk page, so you can get caught up and properly archived without anyone adding more. While there will be people who are unhappy about a short moritorium on posting their urgent issues for your attention, I truly think you need a break from new stuff on the wiki while you get caught up on the old. I would also like to suggest you allow us to move all suggestions for changes/additions to Guild Wars to the suggestion pages. The general policy for them is you are not required to reply/comment (though of course if you choose to, it would be welcomed), yet you would still be able to read and consider all of them, and they would be properly categorized as well. That would keep all the suggestions confined to the designated suggestion area, and keep all the community feedback to those suggestions there rather than here on your page. Please consider this as an attempt to help you as well as the wiki in general. Thanks!--Wyn's Talk page Wyn 20:24, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate the suggestion Wyn, but at this time I am hesitant to have all the suggestions moved over to the suggestion pages for reasons I cannot go into right now. However, I do think that any reported bugs here should be moved over to the bug reporting pages as QA does frequent them and its the best way to have a bug be entered into the system. Is there a way to prevent anyone but myself from posting on my talk so I can catch up? I do like that idea... also, I'll be archiving anything placed in my temp archive before this week shortly. You are totally right that as I make progress on my talk, more and more people are taking the opportunity to post here and I'm starting to drown under the weight. grrr wish I had more time for this stuff... - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 21:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it can be done, though someone, either one of our lovely bcrats or Emily, would need to move you from the plain ArenaNet usergroup (which confers no priviledges beyond a normal registered user) to ArenaNetContrib or ArenaNetLiaison (which have sysop-like powers, and thus can edit fully-protected pages). - Tanetris 22:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Sounds like a bodyguard call, I like it Linsey needs Bodyguards, I will email BBC about it ^^ Death Slighertalk: Death Sligher 22:28, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, Emily is out sick today so that rules her out for now. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 22:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
unless something has changed, the suggestion pages are a horrid mess and i don't think anything should be moved there until they have been fixed up/ formatted to something that anet will visit and read though. 23:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Given how the current plan is to delete the suggestions pages, I don't think that is going to happen... Erasculio 23:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Is that really the current plan? Geez. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 23:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
There is no current plan to delete the suggestion pages since there is no alternative to them other than staff talk pages. I thought Regina made that blatantly clear. Also, the GW Suggestion pages are not nearly as bad as the GW2 suggestion pages, and since Linsey and the live team deal with Guild Wars not Guild Wars 2, I don't see a big problem with my suggestion. However, since Linsey has made her wishes known, that's fine, I'm just trying to help her get unburied from this avalanche and offer her some alternatives. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 23:37, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
There is a big internal discussion up here about the suggestion pages and what to do with them. Since this is currently ongoing, I am hoping that it will be resolved soon and I don't want to be forwarding suggestions on my page to those pages until the issues are cleared up or we at least have a better idea of what our stance is internally. I do very much like the idea of having the ability to lock my page so that I can catch up on archiving whenever it gets this bad. It is both difficult and discouraging to make so much progress only to have it fill right back up as I am working on it. Once I get things back to a state where I can do daily maintenance life will be much easier here. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 00:14, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh! Also, I would really like to get cracking on that FAQ that has been discussed. I get tired of answering the same questions over and over again. Help with that is much appreciated! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 00:18, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Linsey, I have created the shell and the talk page, just go to User talk:Linsey Murdock/FAQ to join in. I have also asked on the Admin noticeboard for a Bcrat to move you into the ArenaNet Contrib usergroup so you can full protect your pages to get caught up when you need to. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 00:36, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I've added User:Linsey Murdock to the ArenaNetLiaison group. Linsey, the option you're looking for is the "protect" tab at the top of your page by the edit/delete/move tabs. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 01:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Ooooh fancy! Thanks for the help Aiiane!
Anyone wanna help me out by making a banner or something explaining why the page is locked temporarily? Once I get something like that, I'll lock this thing down. :D
Thanks a lot for the help with this stuff, guys. I appreciate it. I think that once things get under control here, I'm going to be making some rules for using this page and add time for maintenance of the page to my normal schedule. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 01:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Done Linsey. I would suggest you also protect your temp archive as well. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 03:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I did a little ninja editing, both in getting the FAQ started, and setting up some organizational tools at the top of this page as well as moving your list of archived pages to your archive page. I blatantly stole the header design from Emily, but since it matches the rest of your userspace design, I thought it would be ok. I Thought the center box where the lock notice is now could be used for you to post the progress reports on content updates (like the HoM). Of course you can feel free to change any/all of what I've done, I was just trying to give you a little organizational help. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 20:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
This is awesome, Wyn. Thank you very much for the help, I love it! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 22:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

A suggestion

I noticed you still have Mike's userpage linked for posting skill bugs in your contact me box. I would like to suggest you direct users to post skill bugs here: ArenaNet:Skill bugs. Kim keeps a close eye on that page for skill bugs. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 19:39, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

The reason I still have Mike's page up there is because he has a box with links to all the bug reporting pages. What I really need is a list of rules for posting here in my talk header as well as the links to those bug reporting pages in the header. I figure that once I have everything answered and archived on this talk, my journal talk and the temp archive I will detail out what I want for the rules of posting on my talk so that they can be listed in the header. I'll probably need some help getting the header fixed up into it's final form at that time. Thanks for the help with all this stuff Wyn, I really appreciate it! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 20:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Just let me know what I can do to make it easier for you Linsey. I'm happy to help. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 20:16, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Bug reporting links added to your header. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 20:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
You rock! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 23:53, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm very happy to help you Linsey. I know we can be rather demanding, so anything I can do to make it easier for you, I will. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 05:28, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


It's nice to see that you work under a pile of post-it notes, Linsey, but we believe this picture is a copyvio since it contains several copyrighted images. It makes sense that copyrighted images within another image cannot be released under the GFDL - thus cannot be uploaded here. Please advise if I'm wrong about this and Anet have different rules. Thanks, -- User indochine dsk tree.png Indochine talk 23:52, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Could I see the policy you are referring to? I'd like to know which parts of the picture are the issue and if I could alter the picture to fix the issue. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 00:47, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Guild Wars Wiki:Copyrights is as close as you will get I imagine. Copyright is a tricky business. I would say the offending parts would be things such as the large poster of Totoro, the figuirines on your desk and possibly The Beatles posters. I have to say, I think in this case as it is a photograph of how things actually are on your desk I could not see a case of copyright infringement holding any water. Misery 00:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately, we don't make the rules Misery, the ArenaNet legal department does. We are not allowed to post any image that carries a non-Arena Net, non GFDL copyright. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 02:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, if you guys feel that it falls under that rule, go ahead and take it down. I'll amend my journal accordingly. I don't really have time to invest in this. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 04:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm reasonably certain that this is going beyond even "better safe than sorry" into "no one could possibly interpret copyright laws that way", but I can't think of a good argument for that belief that wouldn't fall into an endless spiral of drama of "but you let LINSEY post stuff like this", so... Would it satisfy everyone if we cropped the image down to just above the monitors? This would remove the Totoro wallscroll completely and most of the Beatles poster (most of the Guild Wars poster too, unfortunately, but better that than to see the image go completely). - Tanetris 05:02, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Someone could easily blur out any copyright material using photoshop, I just don't have the time or energy to do it myself. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 06:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
I cropped it down as Tanetris suggested. Indochine? Think that works ok? I know there are still a few figures on the desk, but the in your face stuff is gone.... --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 07:01, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
It's a bit late in the day now that Lynsey cropped and then removed her image :( but could this reasonably fall under the fair/free use of incidental inclusion, and therefore does not constitute a strict copyright infringement? --BramStoker (talk, contribs) 12:52, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Question for Linsey, is that a monitor covered with notes? (o_o) --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 13:01, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
start reading :P Fox007 User:Fox007 13:25, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
@BramStoker: We don't allow Fair use on this wiki. That is exactly the problem we have with a lot personal images.. poke | talk 14:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't the keyboard, headset, mouse and even the monitor be considered copyvio material? I seem to recall images of a keyboard/mouse/headset being deleted as copyvios but can't recall if it was because it showed the logo or because of the entire image all together. --Kakarot Talk 14:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
[1] -> External image hosts are strong. It's ImageShack's problem now as to whether or not it's a copyvio. Misery 14:25, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Addendum, I hope you don't mind Linsey, I was trying to be bold. Maybe you would rather reformat so the link is on the first occurence of "desk", but meh. People should probably use external image linking more. You can externally link as many pokemons as you want afaik. Misery 14:26, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
LOL Actually Misery, our Image use policy specifies that images used on the wiki have to be hosted on it, not hot linked. :P (just playing the Devil's advocate) --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 14:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
A pox on your house. Ignore all rules imo. Misery 14:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Hm... suppose, instead of hot-linking a picture, we had a link to a page (for example, a personal blog) that had the picture (hmm... a text-less blog? maybe a one-picture fotolog?), would that be ok? :P --NIN37 15:01, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm not arguing NIN37, just kicking Misery in the shin :P --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 15:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Meh, I do understand this wiki is not a personal home page, so we need some sort of solid set of rules to keep it working/organized (hehe... "common sense does not apply to groups with more than one individual").
Just don't want to see all the trouble Linsey had to take and upload that picture gone waste just because of minor issues (but that does not mean we should just ignore rules at all). If we can somehow solve this, that would be great. :P --NIN37 15:27, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
As long as Linsey doesn't have a problem with the solution, it's pretty much solved. Wyn just hates me. Misery 16:24, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
@Kakarot: Images of a keyboard/mouse/headset have been deleted as copyvios because said pictures were stolen from the manufacturer's website. The cropped image is fine. Frankly the uncropped image is fine, except that it'll result in taking the next six months trying to explain to people why a poster in the background of a photo is not the same as using a Mudkip image in your signature. - Tanetris 00:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Yup from a legal backing I would have to say that Tane is right. -- Salome User salome sig2.png 00:49, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Solved problem is solved. Isn't it easier to just not open a can of worms? GWW could probably get away with being full of pokemon in the user space too, but I'm guessing people don't want to go that way. Misery 00:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Errr... in relation to the pokemon on home page thingy, not really mis, it's not incidental usage and thus it would be a breach of copyright law. I can go drudge up the legal reference points if you want them, although it might take awhile, been a couple of years since ive done copyright law, doesn't come up much in family litigation. ;) -- Salome User salome sig2.png 01:01, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Something being in breach of copyright law doesn't prevent people from pushing the edge every single day. I'm sure you know everything in a court is decided on precedence and interpretation anyway. I think the goal here is to just not to ever have lawyers involved at all by being blatantly in the clear. We don't need a photo of everyone's desk on GWW like this as kind of started happening on PvX today, although there is a relevant reason for Linsey's desk to be hosted. Easiest solution? External image host (as has been done), which allows the image to be viewed with no question of copyright on GWW's part and no questions of preferential treatment of Arenanet staff. I really don't see why it's being discussed at all unless Linsey has a problem with that solution. We don't NEED to have a picture of Linsey's desk stored on GWW, so it's just easier not to. Misery 01:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for sorting this out. I the image is now okay; I have removed the copyvio tag. -- User indochine dsk tree.png Indochine talk 14:00, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Chainmaille Doll Entered In Contest

Chainmaille barbie doll looking for good display home with soon to be potential new owner Linsey. contact information GWO Guild Wars Chat Room --Zehnchu 22:52, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you didnt win because you used a barbie? lol

Awww that's cute, sorry you didn't win anything. If you want to send it up to Anet, you could do that and we can put it into our display case. Or if you really want me to have it personally, I would happily display it on my cluttered desk for all to see. I'll even clean up a bit and post pictures of my crazy workspace. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 20:35, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, I will leave the decision up to you where you wish to display it. I will be sending it soon.--Zehnchu 21:13, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, if you want it to be something that everyone at the company walks past on a daily basis, then it goes in the case. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 21:46, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Sound good to me thank you Zehnchu 00:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Zehnchu, you're caving in too fast! She's not been in our refuge center yet! --Lady Rhonwyn 07:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Got your package today, and the doll is now safely put away in her new home. I'll try to remember to bring a camera to work, so I can take a picture of it and show you. :) - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 22:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Yay, I was starting to get worried and have been bugging jpetrie about it seeing if it showed up yet. Hope you liked the bracelet (in the yellow pouch). And Can't wait to see pictures. --Zehnchu 02:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

UPDATE! So I finally remembered to bring in my camera... that was a few weeks ago. I pretty much have been bringing my camera in every day since but I'd forget to take the pictures until after I've left the office or I would procrastinate cleaning off all the empty (mostly half-empty) soda cans and food wrappers on my desk... ANYWAY! I finally took pictures of the display case and of my desk/workspace. I need to load them up and blur out anything from my desk that I don't want you folks to see ~_^ and then I will post them. So, yeah, my update is that I still don't have anything to post yet... rofl... but I'll get to it eventually! I'm going to leave this subject up on my talk until I do!! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 02:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh holy crap, check me out...

User Linsey Murdock Display Case.jpg Finally!! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 07:41, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Would you happen to know what happend to my entry for the Wintersday Art Contest? Clicky for small Clicky for big. Thanks (Qanar | talk) 16:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, I did see it on Regina's desk while she was working on the contest, but I'm not sure where it ended up from there. You should ask her. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 19:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


Hey Linsey! In response to our conversation yesterday, I created User:Linsey Murdock/archive for you. See if that meets your requirements. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 19:07, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Rad. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 20:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
It allows 3 days for people to see your answers and respond if they wish, as well as let's them know it's going to be archived. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 21:50, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Btw... if you want some help getting the holding tank stuff archived, just tag the sections with which archive you wish them to go to, and I will get it archived for you. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 21:55, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't the template link directly to the actual archive it's in? You could probably set it up to do so. And what about Monster sections like the Spawning debate above that got too damned long to read? --ilr 23:27, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
No, the template is only to tell people a section is being archived and to allow people to help Linsey keep stuff archived and her page current. It won't be left on the page once the section is removed. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 23:35, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Mini Mhenlo

Just to confirm, is this actually real? Peopel keep saying it is, when it probably isnt. Please confirm. Thanks, --Burning Freebies 17:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

By her laughing reaction on the page this hoax was on, its clear she has already confirmed its 100% fake. Besides, the 4th years won't be out until April.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 17:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Hoax. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 21:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Ok, thanks both of you. --Burning Freebies 19:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

People are getting curious for the april update

So people are making fake videos about it etc.^^ Well what will it be we dont know we just need to be patient for 28days or so. Btw what do you guys think about 1April what will linsey give us this time, and will we see the old things aswell? Death Slighertalk: Death Sligher 20:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

i really like to see that gender changing thing again i loved it ^^ Fox007 User:Fox007 20:15, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Regarding the storage update: it would be nice to hear about some options they considered, and possibly a hint or two towards what was actualy done, but I'll live without either.
In regards to April Fools:Who knows? Half the fun is not knowing what the joke is until it's already on you :) — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 21:25, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
The stick figures were cute, but it was annoying because I couldn't pvp at all that day. --*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 21:43, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Gender change again FTW! Also it would allow me to screen cap all the inverted gender armours! which would = yay! Hmmm... I wish their was a gender-bender outpost and a stick-man outpost. One that when you went there no matter the time of the year, the effect was always applied. Would give new life to some of the pointless outposts that currently exist. Say for example ice tooth cave. If Ice tooth cave was gender-switch outpost, I bet you it would become a party outpost in no time. -- Salome User salome sig2.png 21:56, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
That video is pretty funny. Those tabs totally look normal on the bottom, huh? /sarcasm
I've been meaning to post another journal entry talking about where I am at right now, but frankly I have been WAY too busy working. I know that people were expecting a little more information by now, but I'm already working 7 days a week for this build and I just don't have the time for more involvement in the community beyond what I am doing right now. That said, I don't think you will have to wait until build day to hear more about what we are working on. Oh, and it will be more than 28 days before the build goes Live. Looking forward to the forum threads that will inevitably pop up on April 3rd demanding to know when the build is coming out and why isn't it out yet???
I would bet money on us not repeating a previous event for April Fool's. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 22:43, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Didnt see the push back 900000 miles away. 22:46, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
It's still April in 28 days to be honest. Get off their backs. Misery 22:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
misery did you even read what Linsey just said? "Looking forward to the forum threads that will inevitably pop up on April 3rd demanding to know when the build is coming out and why isn't it out yet???" any whoo back on track Linsey did you see this topic: which some what speculates on the storage side of the update? 23:19, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
That's because people are retarded, not because they ever promised it on April 3rd afaik. Only thing I have ever seen was "in April". Misery 23:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Misery there is an argument that it would show up on the 2nd because of the fact that its been said that updates would come out on the first Thursday of the month. and with that logic saying this update will come in April imply that it would come out on the second. also the hom has been in development for almost a year now. now its shitty becuase they never stick to or even make that there goal. but at least they are not saying in April and then reliseing the build on the 30th like some game compainys i know (i am looking at you ea.) 23:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Balance updates are the 1st Thursday, the title rebalance happened independently of that schedule too. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW. Misery 23:46, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
omg people, seriously, wow. Everyone needs to calm down for just a moment.
Where did we say that Content Updates would come out on the first Thursday of the month? Maintenance Updates are usually on either the 1st or 2nd Thursday, but Content Updates don't stick to that. If we say a build will come out in September, the whole month counts. September 30th is just as much a part of September as September 1st is. We are not pushing back the build, once we determined what day it needs to be on, it has never deviated and we do not intend to do so. If I had no problem pushing back the build day, like you seem to think I don't, I probably wouldn't be working so hard on it.
I know everyone is really looking forward to this stuff and believe me, so am I, but getting all worked up like this over a dozen words which can be misinterpreted in a million different ways doesn't help anyone and it certainly doesn't make anyone feel good. Besides, in the grand scheme of things, would the contents of the build be so inferior if it didn't come out on April 2nd but on the 9th instead? or the 16th? or the 23rd? or the 30th? OMG what if it wasn't a Thursday at all and came out on Monday the 13th!? PANIC!!! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 00:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
As long as it comes out before GW2, I'll be happy. No, seriously, GW is still lots of fun, and I still have lots I want to do in GW... I consider the updates as bonus rather than requirements. Am I curious? Yes. Am I impatient? A little bit. But the only good way to wait is to find something to do in the meantime. -- Alaris_sig Alaris 01:31, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Well the thing with this update is there is suppose to be storage upgrades what ever that maybe. i know there are other people like me who curtly only have like 3 slots open on there volt box and at any given time on a toon would have 18 slots open on a toon. so its more then over needed. also saying a update is comeing out in a month and then haveing it come out on the last day of the month is just frustrating. and no company should ever do that pr wise. 01:57, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Or you could stop being a pack rat. (coming from the queen of pack rats this is irony) --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 01:59, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
I have to be honest, I must be one of the few peeps not really interested in the sorage updates. Don't get me wrong I'm over the moon for all the people it will help and I appreciate just how much efort and work this has been for the live team. Alas though its came abit late for me as I bought 16 extra char slots in January to sort out my storage needs. Thus Storage isn't a big thing for me, so I'm hoping their is something in the april update for those of us without storage problems, other than the HoM update. However if their isn't, I won't be upset as the amount of work which has gone into this update, and the amount of people it will make very very happy, makes me very confident for any future content updates after april. In short thanks for everything you do Linsey, it is appreciated and it is only a few nay-sayers who shout the loudest, but don't let them get to you. The majority of the wiki community understand how hard you work towards making the game better for all of us. -- Salome User salome sig2.png 02:09, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
"but frankly I have been WAY too busy working. I know that people were expecting a little more information by now, but I'm already working 7 days a week for this build and I just don't have the time for more involvement in the community beyond what I am doing right now." I see what your getting at, understood. No pressure. what ever works for you :) Delays and I are on good terms (should they be needed) as however long it takes to make something it's best is as long as I'm willing to wait. Don't worry so much about time, just give it everything you've got, well everything that isn't a detrimental amount to you that is.
"came out on Monday the 13th!? PANIC!!!" No, no panic until that 13th is a friday XD — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 02:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
*Addendum* These words from Regina along this topic: "I'd also like to note that the big April update will be released at a different time from the regular monthly maintenance build, which happens at the beginning of the month."Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 02:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Ignore this little bit of speculation. But I have an erringly strong feeling that, since in 28 days is April 16th, and GW's b-day is April 28th *iirc*, that the big update will be around April 28th, if not on that day. Just needed to type that theory out. Also, LMFAO Linsey {wub} You need to play a comedic role for a GW2 character xD. I couldn't stop laughing till I felt like I would cough up a liver. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 04:10, 10 March 2009 (UTC)"
Nice! *fries Azazel's liver in some butter* -- Alaris_sig Alaris 04:35, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't think that would be very healthy for you to eat, Alaris. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 20:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Actually, Linsey, if you can release it for GW's birthday (and mine, which is on the same day), I think it would be fitting with the fact that a birthday is a time for gifts and celebration. (And it'll give you until the end of the month to work on the update) ;-) Zahra 23:37, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


Is there an email to get in contact with someone in charge of dealing with those who abuse game mechanics and break rules in the process? Rather not paint a picture and let this get out but I was never told anything beyond "I'm looking into it..." when the question was asked to Izzy. So is there anyone else to contact for such inquiries? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) at 01:21, 12 March 2009 (UTC).

Support? --SilentStorm Talk to me 00:27, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
You can email Linsey or Regina directly, or use support as SilentStorm stated above, but they will not tell you whether or not the person you reported or their account has been actioned or not. --KOKUOU 00:29, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
No one at ArenaNet will tell you if specific actions have been taken or not, due to their privacy policies. You could also try Gaile's support talk page. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 00:43, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
"You can email Linsey or Regina directly" is there a provided email for either? Or whichever would be best to contact in the issue game mechanics are manipulated. 00:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
If it's about player behavior, it's a support issue. If it's about suggesting a change to game mechanics, it's a Linsey/Regina issue. Regina can be reached at I believe. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 01:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
And players abusing current game mechanics that need to be changed would be...both? 01:06, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Your only choice of action as a player is to report people abusing said mechanic(s), and let the correct people know said mechanic(s) are broken, beyond that, there is nothing you can do. File a support tick and leave the appropriate person a message about said broken mechanic(s) on their wiki talk page, if they have one. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 01:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

If you are talking about a mechanic that is actually broken and people are abusing, you can email that to Regina at the community address given above. If you are talking about a mechanic that has loopholes which people are abusing then that is probably a support issue and should be forwarded to Gaile. Remember, I only accept bug reports on this page if they are directly pertaining to a bug introduced in a recent build and I don't discuss or address Support issues. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 03:46, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Is Linser Answer-Hammer-Happy?

I think so. (hides from answer-hammer) -- Alaris_sig Alaris 04:39, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

When Linsey is tired and stressed, she has less patience for... well, everything and everyone. Oh, and @#$! daylight savings time. That is all. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 18:08, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
I think if I had Linsey's job I'd be a lot more answer-hammer happy. keep up all the good work linsey! Try not to get too stressed :p Terra 19:00, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, that answers it for me! lol -- Alaris_sig Alaris 21:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Hehe, I'm usually really mellow but whenever I get stressed my fuse shortens quite a bit. Lately it's been this awesome combination of everything hitting at once and creating a wonderful cycle of stresses looping all over my FACE. Not just work stuff either, been having a lot of intense family stuff happening which is a major distraction as well. You think I'm a little cranky on here? HA! You should talk to my poor honey. Poor guy gets the brunt of it all. hahaha - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 22:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
That sounds rather unfortunate. I hope everything gets sorted out in a much more managable and less stressful fassion for you. You don't sound so cranky, just a little out of sorts, and of a not so favorable disposition towards daylight savings time, something a good many people share with you. XD I'm sure we all have our times of busyness and stress, but here's hoping it all ends for the better :) — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 23:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Hang in there, Linsey! You've always been really good to us and I think I speak for everyone here when I say I hope it all, especially the family stress, works out! Pkohler01 02:27, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Hang in there, you are still awesome in my book! For you... Red Iris Flower.pngUser Barinthus Magical Compass.png Barinthus 07:30, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
couldn't agree more... "$%&# daylight savings time"!! --ilr 10:54, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't know why you made me laugh, but at least you have a humor about it. That's a good sign. =0) --Ravious 14:34, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
I always found that a good way to deal with stress is humour, and a good virtual hammer. Keep up the good work Linsey! -- Alaris_sig Alaris 14:39, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Fierce Blow.jpg Hammertime :) Boro 10px‎ 15:48, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
You guys are sweet, but don't worry about me. Even though I'm working all the time, I love where I work, I love the people I work with and I love the work I do. I'm not bogged down by debt, I can ignore my family drama, I've got great friends (all people I work with) and I've got the best honey I could ask for. So, all in all, life is awesome. I just want you all to know that I'm not really a jerk and I do still care about the community even if I'm cranky, snippy or just plain absent. <3 User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 04:43, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Personally, I find it cute and lively. I'm a big fan of Pearls before Swine, so you see what my humour style is like. -- Alaris_sig Alaris 14:02, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

New templates

Ok, turns out I had already anticipated part of your request and done User:Linsey Murdock/no archive, but I also did User:Linsey Murdock/Gaile and User:Linsey Murdock/Regina. That work? --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 06:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

How about placing a redirect to the template on those template's talk pages? {{/noarchive}} is shorter then {{User:Linsey Murdock/noarchive}}. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 16:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Just trying to keep it simple, and shorter isn't always simple. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 17:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

May I point out one small detail? Gaile's last named is spelt Gray not Grey. Not that big of a deal but I though I might point it out. : )--BabyJUser BabyJ Monkey.jpg 19:18, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

HAHAHA! My bad... Gaile Grey redirects to her page, so it worked anyway, but thanks :D --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 19:51, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Perfect, Wyn! Thanks again! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 21:20, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

On a side note, perhaps a template for Joe Kimmes like the ones Gaile and Regina? Something gives me a feeling questions fielded to Linsey that he should answer will grow in number. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 22:04, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, now that Joe has become more active on the wiki, I can see this being very useful. Any code questions for Joe can go straight to Joe and if it's a code question that is likely to be for a programmer with a different specialty than Joe, then I can send them to Regina to track down an answer. - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 22:17, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Joe needs a sig icon :( but ok. will do. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 22:27, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
User:Linsey Murdock/Joe Done. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 22:35, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Crescent Fresh! - User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 15:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)