User talk:Mafaraxas/Archive
Hello, Mafaraxas, and welcome to the Official Guild Wars Wiki! If you need help with anything, please feel free to add a message to my talk page. I highly recommend that you check out the "Welcome to the wiki" page - it's extremely useful as an initial guide. Best of luck and happy editing! --§ Eloc § 20:58, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks; I've been here for months, though. -- Mafaraxas 22:32, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Mapping Tour[edit]
Hello. Sorry about the slow response but I didn't see your offer until recently. Generally I am on at night (USA EST, -5 GMT) but it can vary pretty drastically. I've added you to my Friends list. -- Sabardeyn 15:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Woo, revamped sig[edit]
Nothing real special, I'm just bored and stayed up all night. The (changed) image doesn't seem to want to update on the server side, though. -- Mafaraxas 12:40, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Try ctrl and f5 RT | Talk 12:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yeh, doesn't work. Ah well, it's probably just me being impatient. Camping Recent Changes? -- Mafaraxas 12:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
There it goes. Woo. -- Mafaraxas 13:33, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Seeing as you've already uploaded Image:User Mafaraxas sigimg.jpg, could you use that to sign? That image follows the naming, so you don't have a problem with that, whereas Image:Mafaraxas sigimg.jpg doesn't have the "User" part. -- Brains12 • Talk • 21:50, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- I mixed this up when I was trying to straighten things out on GW2W since they work in tandem... anyway, yeh, I suppose I'll do that. -- Mafaraxas 23:11, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
NPA[edit]
If you have a problem with someone's personal opinion, then please either argue your own opinion with constructive comments and criticism, or don't say anything at all. "Take the sand out of your vagina" is unconstructive and disruptive, and continued behaviour like this could earn you a ban. Thank you. Kokuou 04:26, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- You're welcome. -- Mafaraxas 04:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
LFG/LFR HM:[edit]
LFG/LFR HM:
- Frostmaw's Burrows
- Vloxen Excavations
PICK PICK ME :3 Fox007 21:45, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
- i'll be available this thursday on, if you like. ign is on the userpage. Do you know anyone else that needs to do those dungeons? -- Mafaraxas 18:10, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- Same i'll be avaible from 4pm GMT+2 i dunno where you are actually living. And i do know some people but i dunno if are serious enough :3 Fox007 19:17, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
'erro bernie[edit]
^ {{SUBST:Big Penis}} 08:53, 24 June 2009
- erro -- Mafaraxas 13:51, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
- So I heard u liek mudkipz. Is there any truth to the rumors of this blasphemy? Also, HA more when I'm on. It's lol when I try to infuse myself because I don't have binds for targeting. With love, Moo.
- moo, i suppose mudkips are okay i guess sometimes. a long time ago i bound numpad 1-8 to target party member 1-8, but i don't know if that's at all useful for actual monking, because i've only done actual monking like three times. i've heard some people disable mouse clicking for movement and click on targets to save their lives (since you're supposed to be strong field-aware infuse/prot, not watch redbars. but you know that). -- Mafaraxas 14:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- So I heard u liek mudkipz. Is there any truth to the rumors of this blasphemy? Also, HA more when I'm on. It's lol when I try to infuse myself because I don't have binds for targeting. With love, Moo.
- oh, and i work/school until ~7pm mountain (eastern -2) monday through thursday, so i cannae do things before then. -- Mafaraxas 14:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- The totality of my field awareness is channel tanking. FOLLOW THE BLUE DOTS AROUND AND SPAM FOR MASS ENERGY is how i was taught to monk (\o/) ~~
- oh, and i work/school until ~7pm mountain (eastern -2) monday through thursday, so i cannae do things before then. -- Mafaraxas 14:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Don't.[edit]
Kthx. Ryuu - talk 03:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- whoru -- Mafaraxas 23:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- Remember P&M's whole page on how M was transformed into a girl and P got her to do sexual favors for him? It was so epic. I miss P's mystic powers of spontaneous combustion. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Moo Kitty (talk).
- the alony is strong in P Mafaraxas 04:23, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- Remember P&M's whole page on how M was transformed into a girl and P got her to do sexual favors for him? It was so epic. I miss P's mystic powers of spontaneous combustion. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Moo Kitty (talk).
Images[edit]
I'm moving several of your images that you have uploaded from "User:Maf feedback" to "User:Mafaraxas feedback" with numbers accordingly. Also, I changed the links to them on the Talk:Drunk page to reflect those changes. Just a heads up. Titani Ertan {{Snappy the Turtle}} 16:03, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Sig[edit]
GWW:SIGN#General rules and considerations, point 3. - Tanetris 15:00, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- And still. -- Brains12 \ talk 16:42, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- Again? – Emmett 17:45, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- In case you haven't clicked the link above, I'll spell it out for you - you need to change your signature so it can be easily read, i.e. remove "μαφλεσ" or at least clearly display "Mafaraxas" in it. -- Brains12 \ talk 18:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- L2Greek? Moo Kitty 19:31, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- From what I know, he wrote "Mafles". amirong? Titani Ertan 10:53, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- You have been asked now by 3 admins to change your signature. I think it's time for you to do so. -- Wyn talk 18:03, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
- Since you have ignored the request from three admins to change your signature in line with the policy Tanetris linked on August 17 you have been blocked again. --Kakarot 14:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
- I know this is old, so I'm not sure who will read, but "μαφλεσ" phonetically translated to "maef - les", like Maffles, which seems to be one of his more prominent nicknames, which is a pretty damn good translation, in my opinion. Must it really be English if it's awesome? 141.165.170.90 20:05, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Since you have ignored the request from three admins to change your signature in line with the policy Tanetris linked on August 17 you have been blocked again. --Kakarot 14:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
- You have been asked now by 3 admins to change your signature. I think it's time for you to do so. -- Wyn talk 18:03, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
- From what I know, he wrote "Mafles". amirong? Titani Ertan 10:53, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- L2Greek? Moo Kitty 19:31, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- In case you haven't clicked the link above, I'll spell it out for you - you need to change your signature so it can be easily read, i.e. remove "μαφλεσ" or at least clearly display "Mafaraxas" in it. -- Brains12 \ talk 18:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- Again? – Emmett 17:45, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Iron[edit]
Is lovely. I love iron. How about you? Moo Kitty 17:24, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Jesus Beam[edit]
Where does anet say you can't make reference to religious figures in game? Last time i checked, that wasn't against the rules. Plz provide a EULA reference, I can't find one. Karate Jesus is far from a credible source if thats where you took it from. --adrin 16:17, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- Karate Jesus is the most credible source there is. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:54, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- ^ — derp de derp derp a tum tee tiddly tum ta tum Maf 22:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
SUP MAFFLES Moo Kitty 16:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- hawt math chick wants my cock, but i think she has a boyfriend :/ — derp de derp derp a tum tee tiddly tum ta tum Maf 03:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
we do not need[edit]
A second list of skills which cause burning. Revert earthen shackles. —Jette 15:55, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Signature[edit]
Your signature is again quite disturbing for reads, especially when your posts are rather short in comparison to the signature. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 17:45, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
- dear noctarch, i find it much less disturbing for edits than users who have three lines of code for an obnoxious image signature (albeit I could see people considering my signature equally obnoxious). I do not mean this as an insult at you, but am speaking in general. It is a difficult situation for the administration to handle, I'll admit, but one that has much importance in the stake of the wiki. How do we regulate the line between tolerable and intolerable? Perhaps it is not a line, and in fact a region? Perhaps if I continue writing for another few lines, you wouldn't be bothered by my signature? Personally, I think it is much better to be succinct and to the point rather than long-winded, but since you suggested it I'm willing to try it out. That, too, is a difficult thing to balance; the line between being too brief and too long-winded, and it's something many have to struggle with in English classes as they go through primary and secondary school, and when they come out there is still no uniform opinion on the matter. Alas, this is not the place to discuss that in detail (ohoho). Well, is this a satisfactory length? — derp de derp derp a tum tee tiddly tum ta tum Maf 17:53, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
- Humour and wit: zero. Troll factor... adept. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 18:05, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Dear good sir,[edit]
derp de derp derp a tum tee tiddly tum ta tum. Moo Kitty 15:08, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
A question..[edit]
The more I participate in wiki discussions the more "serious" players I see saying things along the lines of "If they wanna leave then let them. Who cares" "They can go play WoW for all I care" and "BAWWWWW". I was just wondering, What stance does arenanet take on this? Do they support this attitude? Are they trying to cater to the playerbase at all? If so, Are they catering to the select and so called "Elite" Few that are members of guilds like Close Enough? Or are they trying to cater to the entire guildwars community as a whole? The more important part of my question being the first part, Does arenanet endorse this "If they want to go then let them because we dont need them here" attitude? 71.193.48.146 18:20, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Eh, they do already have your money. Tidas 18:34, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- ^ /Agree. Reaper of Scythes** 19:25, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Wait...you consider Close Enough [XVII] elitists? What in the world are you talking about....? Karate Jesus 19:28, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Who? Rose Of Kali 19:43, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Close Enough is Raine's guild. I think the OP means that they have an elitist attitude, not necessarily elitist skills, which is certainly true. -- Tha Reckoning File:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg 19:45, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- KK ignore KJ thx. Obvious trollbait is obvious. 71.193.48.146 19:46, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- nah kj best dood evar - Wuhy 19:53, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Doesnt mean he's not trollbaiting. Id really like this question to be answered and its not gonna get answered if this devolves into mass ammounts of "Ur a noob" "Umad" and "QQshadowform nerf". Please try to keep on topic. pretty please? 71.193.48.146 19:55, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- I'm around 99.9% sure that my comment was on topic. Since when were Close Enough elitists? Karate Jesus 19:59, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Obviously you're either not going to get an answer, or get a political one, because the question requires Anet to look at all the mistakes they've made, which they probably won't do. They're not willing to answer for ruining their game, because they're not professional enough to do so. You've gotten all the answer you're going to get, from users. -- Tha Reckoning File:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg 20:01, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- I'm around 99.9% sure that my comment was on topic. Since when were Close Enough elitists? Karate Jesus 19:59, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Doesnt mean he's not trollbaiting. Id really like this question to be answered and its not gonna get answered if this devolves into mass ammounts of "Ur a noob" "Umad" and "QQshadowform nerf". Please try to keep on topic. pretty please? 71.193.48.146 19:55, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- nah kj best dood evar - Wuhy 19:53, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- KK ignore KJ thx. Obvious trollbait is obvious. 71.193.48.146 19:46, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Close Enough is Raine's guild. I think the OP means that they have an elitist attitude, not necessarily elitist skills, which is certainly true. -- Tha Reckoning File:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg 19:45, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Who? Rose Of Kali 19:43, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sure ANet don't take the attitude you think. I mean, they do already have your money for the game, but obviously they can still get more with the makeover packs, extra storage slots, etc. and of course they want you to buy GW2. After all, if they had no reason to cater to the playerbase, they could simply shut down the game and save the server upkeep money.
- However, they are trying to cater to a playerbase that has lost the larger part of its hope that the game can be fixed; a very difficult endeavor, and while they don't expect everyone to continue playing (every game eventually loses players, some more quickly than others) they certainly want as many people as possible to spend money on upgrades and eventually GW2. --Kyoshi (Talk) 20:04, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Assuming your correct kyoshi, How do they determine what the players want? Where do they look? Do they actually reveiw the feedback/suggestions pages on the wiki or is it just a past-time for them to look over them? do they read through guru threads? Im very curious as to how ANet listens to the voice of their playerbase. 71.193.48.146 20:09, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- simply put: no. - Wuhy 20:12, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- So, how is it that they "know" what players want for the game? 71.193.48.146 20:15, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- They read Guru (Regina checks it often), read here, and ask the Test Krewe. Karate Jesus 20:17, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- okay, So how do they hear from the rest of the playerbase? the people playing that dont waste time here or on guru? And I dont see how asking the test krewe constitutes the rest of the community. The test krewe is just a few people that are subject to their own likes and dislikes. So, i dont think that really counts.... 71.193.48.146 20:20, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but what exactly do you expect them to do? Go through the game asking each and every player who has ever logged in for more than 5 seconds? Forums, wiki's, Facebook, Twitter, etc. are the ways in which every game company tries to reach their player-base. Granted, we often don't hear from them for long periods of time, so don't hear me defending them on their frequency of communication. However, their methods are sound. Karate Jesus 20:22, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- I'm afraid i must disagree with you. I have never once seen an in game item as to where players should post for suggestions or polls on what players want or anything like that. ive played GW for years and it wasnt untill about a few months ago that i discovered i could do anything with the wiki besides poke around it for information. Didnt even discover discussion pages untill a couple months ago. Still havent figured out how to make a suggestion or feedback page (and im not looking for pointers because im not stupid enough to think what i say matters one bit). I beleive that perhaps there should be something in game reminding players about guru or the wiki so they can give their feedback about things. If they really want the input of their entire playerbase, and not just the ones that are computer literate, They need to reach out to the community and say something to them. 71.193.48.146 20:30, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Well, there are games with ingame polls. If something is enough of a big change, they ask players what they want, and act accordingly. It's not like "Do you want free stuff" or "Do you want to keep this skill overpowered?" but more like "which of the following new items would you rather have?" or "Which are do you visit less or things that needs an overhaul?". Many players dig being asked directly. MithTalk 20:35, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Exactly. As it stand the only way a player will ever have their voice heard is if they research things like guru and the wiki, create accounts, and start posting. Thats of course assuming they think theres anywhere they CAN post a suggestion or opinion. I know a large ammount of players (being in a newb friendly guild) that have no idea where they should look for informations or suggestions or anything of the sort. Let alone where to go or how to do it. 71.193.48.146 20:38, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Enough of this guys. Take it to a fansite forum somewhere. The question has been asked of Regina, and you need to leave her to answer it. Untracking the topic off to do they read feedback/suggestions or not, is unproductive and has already been addressed by Regina here. That you choose not to believe her is your problem, stop trying too make it everyone elses. -- Wyn talk 20:42, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Wait, so we are actually meant to wait for an answer on a question that is basically, which side of the player base do you want to insult? Tidas 20:53, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- "I have never once seen an in game item as to where players should post for suggestions or polls on what players want or anything like that." oh god i hope that stays that way. - Wuhy 20:59, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- I hope so too. Keep the game a game and don't make it into a poll like some others. If someone has something to say, they will search for where to say it, and it's not that difficult to find. If you don't look or do anything to be heard, don't expect Anet to knock on your door asking what you want from their game. Rose Of Kali 22:26, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- "I have never once seen an in game item as to where players should post for suggestions or polls on what players want or anything like that." oh god i hope that stays that way. - Wuhy 20:59, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Wait, so we are actually meant to wait for an answer on a question that is basically, which side of the player base do you want to insult? Tidas 20:53, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Enough of this guys. Take it to a fansite forum somewhere. The question has been asked of Regina, and you need to leave her to answer it. Untracking the topic off to do they read feedback/suggestions or not, is unproductive and has already been addressed by Regina here. That you choose not to believe her is your problem, stop trying too make it everyone elses. -- Wyn talk 20:42, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Exactly. As it stand the only way a player will ever have their voice heard is if they research things like guru and the wiki, create accounts, and start posting. Thats of course assuming they think theres anywhere they CAN post a suggestion or opinion. I know a large ammount of players (being in a newb friendly guild) that have no idea where they should look for informations or suggestions or anything of the sort. Let alone where to go or how to do it. 71.193.48.146 20:38, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Well, there are games with ingame polls. If something is enough of a big change, they ask players what they want, and act accordingly. It's not like "Do you want free stuff" or "Do you want to keep this skill overpowered?" but more like "which of the following new items would you rather have?" or "Which are do you visit less or things that needs an overhaul?". Many players dig being asked directly. MithTalk 20:35, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- I'm afraid i must disagree with you. I have never once seen an in game item as to where players should post for suggestions or polls on what players want or anything like that. ive played GW for years and it wasnt untill about a few months ago that i discovered i could do anything with the wiki besides poke around it for information. Didnt even discover discussion pages untill a couple months ago. Still havent figured out how to make a suggestion or feedback page (and im not looking for pointers because im not stupid enough to think what i say matters one bit). I beleive that perhaps there should be something in game reminding players about guru or the wiki so they can give their feedback about things. If they really want the input of their entire playerbase, and not just the ones that are computer literate, They need to reach out to the community and say something to them. 71.193.48.146 20:30, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but what exactly do you expect them to do? Go through the game asking each and every player who has ever logged in for more than 5 seconds? Forums, wiki's, Facebook, Twitter, etc. are the ways in which every game company tries to reach their player-base. Granted, we often don't hear from them for long periods of time, so don't hear me defending them on their frequency of communication. However, their methods are sound. Karate Jesus 20:22, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- okay, So how do they hear from the rest of the playerbase? the people playing that dont waste time here or on guru? And I dont see how asking the test krewe constitutes the rest of the community. The test krewe is just a few people that are subject to their own likes and dislikes. So, i dont think that really counts.... 71.193.48.146 20:20, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- They read Guru (Regina checks it often), read here, and ask the Test Krewe. Karate Jesus 20:17, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- So, how is it that they "know" what players want for the game? 71.193.48.146 20:15, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- simply put: no. - Wuhy 20:12, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Assuming your correct kyoshi, How do they determine what the players want? Where do they look? Do they actually reveiw the feedback/suggestions pages on the wiki or is it just a past-time for them to look over them? do they read through guru threads? Im very curious as to how ANet listens to the voice of their playerbase. 71.193.48.146 20:09, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
(Reset indent) Let the record state that "Elitist" or Elite-Favoring is a derogatory term in modern language and thus an unsuited line of questioning for the purposes of Regina's duties. A more suitable straight-forward question would be:
"WHO is the studio's primary Demographic...past and present??" -- Thank You --ilr 23:39, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- @wuhy why? what are you afraid of? @ilr i dont even know what you just said. How am i supposed to ask someone a question if i have no idea the words that are coming out of my mouth? Elitist may be derogatory but its the only term that I know to describe the kind of player that is... well... elitist. Which alot of "Serious" players seem to be. They seem to feel that theyre somehow better or smarter than an average player. That the trim on their cape or the animal that pops up when they /fame somehow contributes to the validity of their arguments or feelings. Also, @rose, your wrong. I just recently got my guild playing around with wiki. Like earlier today kind of recently. and the majority of players there have had the game for 4+ years. Just because someone has something to say doesnt mean they know how or where or even if theyre able to say it. (by being able to i mean if theres a place where they can post feedback and such) 71.193.48.146 16:08, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- Rose said "it's not that difficult to find" not "everyone knows where it is". She also said "don't expect Anet to knock on your door asking what you want". I can agree with that, it would be a little ridiculous to poll every player (some of whom would get multiple votes for having multiple accounts, prolly) and get a popular and quick answer instead of a good, well-argued answer. Wuhy probably agrees with Rose and also doesn't want the popular opinion, but the smart opinion.
- The reason ilr reworded it (not that I expect Regina to give a straight answer on this now anyway) is because your question is rigged. It comes across as "Are you really supporting the elitists?" You can't expect Regina, a member of the staff, to choose between two vaguely-defined groups of players, deciding who she likes more, or who the company likes more (or should like more), regardless of how much you may dislike them. --Kyoshi (Talk) 16:20, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- @wuhy why? what are you afraid of? @ilr i dont even know what you just said. How am i supposed to ask someone a question if i have no idea the words that are coming out of my mouth? Elitist may be derogatory but its the only term that I know to describe the kind of player that is... well... elitist. Which alot of "Serious" players seem to be. They seem to feel that theyre somehow better or smarter than an average player. That the trim on their cape or the animal that pops up when they /fame somehow contributes to the validity of their arguments or feelings. Also, @rose, your wrong. I just recently got my guild playing around with wiki. Like earlier today kind of recently. and the majority of players there have had the game for 4+ years. Just because someone has something to say doesnt mean they know how or where or even if theyre able to say it. (by being able to i mean if theres a place where they can post feedback and such) 71.193.48.146 16:08, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
(Reset indent) Wyn said it nicely, I won't. STFU, all of you. Take it to a talk page if you want, but your verbal dribbling doesn't belong here. NuVII 16:25, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Where do i put it? 71.193.48.146 16:34, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- Well, you could make an account and move this to your talk page. ThrainFile:User Thrain Sig.pngcontribs 16:36, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- Not an option. 71.193.48.146 16:37, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- you could move it to mine, i like it when its filled up with bullshit - Wuhy 21:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- Not an option. 71.193.48.146 16:37, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- Well, you could make an account and move this to your talk page. ThrainFile:User Thrain Sig.pngcontribs 16:36, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
what the hell, i thought you guys would keep going :< MAFARAXAS 19:47, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
- [2] Is all i have to say at this point. --71.193.48.146 04:46, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
- I am breaking my wiki hiatus to say:
- What the shit? is for Raine, etc. 05:54, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
My life is complete[edit]
I r famousez naow since i got on maf's uzer paeg!1!1!1!11!!!!1! dark chaos 02:34, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- congratulations! try not to let it get to your head, though. MAFARAXAS 03:23, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Maf's gebruikerspagina is net zo maf als maf zelf.--83.82.62.210 19:04, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- nee jij jew. MAFARAXAS 05:38, 27 February 2011 (UTC)