User talk:000 00 00 00/Storage

Welcome

Welcome to the Guild Wars Wiki, I'm ninjas in the sky but a few ppl know me as Pie. Did you move in from another wiki? I saw that edit you did in recent changes, you put everytihng in your page in one edit. Ninjas In The Sky 10:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I saw this setup on another page, no very little of wiki editing, just saw what someone else did and mimicked that. I will probably do big clumps of edits, trying not to do little edits all the time :P 000.00.00.00 10:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Lol, that's how I learned to make userboxes xD miicking ftw. Anyways, cool name, I tought u were a IP adress before I saw you weren't 000.00.00.00 Ninjas In The Sky 10:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, my friend dared me to pick something original but it wouldn't allow me to have it in 000.00.00.00 form. When I post on pages it looks right, but [sigh]. :D 000.00.00.00 10:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Credit

Just noticed that your user page has used my page structure. I don't mind, however it would be appreciated if you could give credit for this somewhere on the userpage. -- Salome 20:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Welcome to the wiki and have fun editing! :) -- Salome 20:17, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

The correct way to credit that page would be to user:Lensor and myself. I have a wee user box you can use which you can see below, hope it helps -- Salome 22:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

The ever fabulous user pages of Lensor and Salome, helped inspire and structure this page.

Tremendous! 000.00.00.00 23:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I love your name.

And the fact you say "tremendous". Vael Victus 00:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that Vael, appreciate it. 000.00.00.00 03:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Question: aren't ip adresses in xXx.XxX.xX.xX format ? Shouldn't it therefor be 000.00[b]0[/b].00.00 ?78.114.173.78 10:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

IPs are in w.x.y.z format. If any of those numbers would be more than one digit, it expands to accommodate said digits (for example, 1.27.15.128). The "proper" IP address would therefore be 0.0.0.0. -- Armond Warblade 21:15, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

True, but I like the nickname, whether it's the correct way of showing it or not ^_^ 000.00.00.00 01:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Are you

this guy? (contrib) -- Armond Warblade 12:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

That would be "No". 000.00.00.00 16:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

About your page

Hey, I was wondering how you have that one section on your page that scrolls down, without the scroll bar. Id really like to have some of those on my userpage. Also, seeing your userpage made me wonder, do you know a place where I can go to learn how to make my own templates? It would really reduce the text in my userpage edits. Thanks. Neithan Diniem

My character page has a thanks to the player whom the template is from.

As for one section with no scroll bar I think its because of the Guild Wars / Guild Wars 2 suggestion bar, I really need to move it. I really don't know what I'm doing with the Wiki, still learning so I make alot of mistakes ^_^ 000.00.00.00 18:38, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Or it could be that the text in that section hasn't exceeded the size of the box. 000.00.00.00 18:39, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on Legendary Survivor..

Ci' An Nirya, :) ... she made it! Congratulations! --Silverleaf 10:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Am very pleased ^_^ But, how did you know? 000.00.00.00 12:47, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

you updated her page, i saw in the picture the HoM statue. 1 + 1 = 2 :). --Silverleaf 13:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

[smacks self] I'm a twit :P Should have seen that coming. Oh, you're a viewer of Recent Changes? :P 000.00.00.00 22:49, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Ehmmmmm....yes...guess i'm busted :). --Silverleaf 06:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Heads Up

I woudl avoid furthwer discussion on User_talk:Linsey_Murdock#You_guys_need_to_get_real_with_GW1. That has to pontential to go south pretty fast and Wyn has alredy asked for an end to that discussion a few times. Just thought I would give ya a heads up =D — Wolf 20:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, thanks for that. I do tempt fate. ^_^ But, I do appreicate posting cause, for whatever reason, bringing up the modding made something crack in my brain and I remembered my email password and thus my Wiki password. Woot! lol 000.00.00.00 20:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

lol, yeah I herd loging was cool! ^.^ I tend to tempt fate too, probably more than is healthy XD — Wolf 20:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Eh, it lets you know you're alive. :P 000.00.00.00 20:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that it does. For a second, I thought I was talking to myself here — Wolf 20:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

LOL I talk to myself alot, the conversations a bit one sided though. Sometimes not, and then its just arkward ^_^ lol 000.00.00.00 20:58, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Lol! But seriously, you hold pretty much the same stance and use the same arguements I did not too long ago. — Wolf 21:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Pretty much. There are still a few holes in the stance, and also the response from Anet, but these are things that probably won't change. Sometimes I think I talk just to get issue off my chest, or maybe because if I was in Arenanet position, faced with a community after a loss of the expected Beta, I would have given them something. Not something big, but still something. [shrugs]. Concept art maybe, just a few. You need to keep people interested, not questioning your intentions. That and concept art is sooooo much of a teaser :P 000.00.00.00 21:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Concept art is juts awesome. I'd love to see some no matter when they decide to give it too us. Altough, I think in the end, this will be fore all the better, and we will look back an laugh. Also note, GW2 isnt just for their returning players, they are trying to expand their player base and get more players. While they may be pushing their current players loyalty to the very edge, I think it stands to realay pay off big time. — Wolf 21:08, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Thats a gamble, and you either gamble if you're secure in your position, or the opposite. Arenanet shouldn't gamble with its player-base, especially when they only thing they've got to gamble on is a 3 or so year old game, especially when there are more immediate MMOs coming on the market. 000.00.00.00 21:27, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I think its a smart gamble to take. When you don't have any monthly fees to pave your way, you have to keep selling copies. The only way to keep selling copies is to expand your player base. Honestly, I don't think even half the people that have left GW pissed about how GW2 is being handled will stay away forever. — Wolf 21:29, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

If people get annoyed with the handling, they get annoyed with Arenanet. Guild Wars 2 = dead area, Guild Wars = dying area. Not a very good period for business. Sales will be down for Guild Wars. Players will be leaving, and those staying with either be die hard fans or those on the developers back. There isn't that much for Guild Wars to keep people interested. Thats why I want to mod ^_^ Two words: GOLEM challenge ^_^ 000.00.00.00 21:33, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Lol! — Wolf 21:37, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

^_^ 000.00.00.00 21:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Ping program

Hi, I was wondering about the ping program you are running that you mentioned on Emily's talk page. I'd like to get something like that to try to discover what's going on with some issues (GW and others) that I've been having. -- Wyn 16:50, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have just mentioned it instead of 'ping program', error on my part. Support got me to download PingPlotter 000.00.00.00 18:50, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I've just read your mention on Gaile's talk page about the overnight power spike. I don't know what the AC is like down in Christchurch, but up here in Whangaparaoa, just North of Auckland, it can be a bit sketchy from time to time. I got myself a Dynamix UPS650D a while back that smooths over all the issues nicely. It knocks any surges on the head and can keep my PC powered for a while if the AC drops altogether. You might want to keep a UPS in mind if you experience power troubles too often for your liking. ;D -- WarBlade 23:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I should invest in one.. maybe two... my microwave [cries] It was a steady beast, but long in the tooth though. Anyway, thanks for the info, I appreciate it ^_^ New Zealand Guild Wars player FTW lol 000.00.00.00 23:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

>.< throws toys from his cot >.<

Eeek! Stupid lines ruin my page, and now it won't let me upload the full image >.< [throws more toys] Ahhh, that feels better ^_^ 000.00.00.00 22:10, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I tried taking your image, removing the lines and uploading it for you, but the image upload thing apparently is not working right now (what is that image for, by the way?). Erasculio 22:21, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I just tried to upload the full image of it but it says the file I'm uploading is empty. Oh, its the start of my new profile, more of a test to see how it actually looks on the page. 000.00.00.00 22:46, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Woot. Its working now ^_^ 000.00.00.00 01:26, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I like it. — Wolf 04:33, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully. Hopefully, it will get better ^_^ --000.00.00.00 04:48, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

So far, it looks like it is =D — Wolf 01:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Character Armor

Hey, I was wondering if I could use the template or whatever that you use for your character's armor, also, how do you make 2 rows (one on top of each other) of those boxes or if it hits the each of your browser will it automatically make 2 rows? thanks [1]

I loled a little

at this "Post author wishes no disrespect to anyone, he believes in equality of sexuality and has gay friends but seriously thinks Paragons have to be one of the GAYEST things Arenanet has ever done" Disclaimer much? XD It reminded me of all the financial stuff at the end of car commercials, and then a funny Kyle Cease sketch. — Wolf 00:09, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I love Regina's little 'concern' "I'm a little concerned about how well people can discuss this in a mature fashion because of 000.00.00.00's comment about Paragons.". I took my comment and her comment to my friends (one gay) and we all had a good laugh at it/her. My friend then when back to his Paragon, his "yummy" Paragon, to whom he choose because of the 'appearance'. lol ^_^ Good times. We have far more viable discussions about such things, its sad Regina can take things in one way alone. [Shrugs] Though, some people can miss the point of a comment, others could be offended, others could not give a toss, or others could do something else. Beauty of putting your hand up in a crowd I suppose.

Sometimes I worry about Regina... my comment was lol'ed by all my friends, yes even the guy one, Regina not so much. Though, she's not in that loop, I suppose.

I do like my disclaimers, I often do them over Teamspeak before entering missions. Good times ^_^ --000.00.00.00 01:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I do understand Regina's concern tho, as such a comment could be taken major offense of. Several of my friends all think it's gay to wear a kilt, as it's much like a skirt, but Scottsman wear them all the same. From my end, your comment could be taken as insensitive or insulting, as what may seem one way in one culture, is not always seen the same way in another. Most of the time your dealing with a difference in perspective. A person can easily take in a comment or situation from all angles, but still present a very polarized opinion or statement on the matter, even tho it may not be the entirety of their opinion, Situations like this have been the root of many fights between my friends and myself. Trust try to keep as open a mind as possible. If you disagree with someone's comment or opinion, put yourself in their shoes, and try to understand their motives. A very wise man once told me that "Truly knowing someone is being able to non-objectively put yourself in someone else's shoes and see the world through their eyes and walk the world just as they do." — Wolf 01:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Also, throw the term "Devil's Advocate" into the mix. I often find myself playing the part as well. — Wolf 01:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I did it, I'm a user here instead of a shadow

Any of cause there's a bit of chaos at the beginning, check my user talk.

Pity you're not active that much anywhere but that mod, you're not even in in-game either. "Yeah, play Guild Wars its really good", so good you're not playing it anymore, you b@#tardio ^_^ but I have to agree, but I can't get Dervish yet but people say they're pretty good. Why I'm putting this here when I can just call you? Cos it'll mess with your head later. Probably not though ^_^

Good luck with your mod. Aba Malatu means Forbidden Truth 19:19, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Grind Breaks the brain

(a portion of a comment originally posted by me on Linsey's page)

Grind is a psychological factor as well; starting something and not finishing it plays on the mind of a large portion of people. My guild has had heated discussion over this (grind, profession/skill/pve skill imbalance/grind) as most don't like grinding or how it's related not only related to titles, but now skills. Most, if not all, understand for a loose justification that it's not a manditory thing but seeing all the 'content' you haven't yet finished to completion, skills and titles mostly, stops many from feeling like they've actually beaten the game. They haven't, they've now got to go through the game-lengthening stuff because Arenanet, like most MMO designers, don't want to remove the precious grind from their games with good content, such as quests that involve more than go here, talk to this, tear this things head off, bring it back to talkative NPC number 235892 with the "Oh my god I just saw Solid Snake" icon above their head. Titles was one thing, title based skills just annoyed the crap out of me. Now I'm a D/Rt/Norn/Asuran. My Mom's so proud at her four headed son. 000.00.00.00 19:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Minor correction, in most MMOs, the grind is between you and actualy finishing the game, where as GW, it comes after you beat the game. — Jon Lupen 19:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

That's not entirely true: you saying 'after you beat the game is when the grind starts in Guild Wars' is false.

This is where the discussions I've had with people starts getting interesting, because one has to define what 'the game' refers when thinking about Guild Wars.

There are also parts of the game that can be 'grinded' before the completion of 'the game'. I assume you refer to completing the PvE storyline as 'beating the game' which is only an aspect, a part, of the game as a whole, not the game in itself. It seems odd saying after you've beaten 'the game' is when the grind starts because the grind is required to complete the game as a whole, you can't refer to the game by a part because that's false, Guild Wars is a whole.

To me, correct me if I'm wrong, you're referring to 'beating the game' as completing the PvE Storyline, which then allows for HM and thus allows the player to grind the rest of various titles. But the PvE story is not 'the game', it is a large part of 'the game', but saying "I've beaten the game" requires one to have completed everything, not just the storyline because they're not one in the same. 000.00.00.00 22:17, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I think the issue is simple, you used to be able to opt out of the grinding with no disadvantage. Once they introduced title linked skills, you had to grind those skills or you were disadvantaged. I mostly just refuse to grind out the titles and play as if they didn't exist. If I am bored and can think of nothing else to do, I might work a bit towards one of them. If I actually played PvE I would be punished for this, but I mostly PvP so all it means is my titles are lower than other people's titles, despite what popular opinion is, my titles don't actually matter for getting into groups unless I am pugging (which is terrible). Original model of titles that actually didn't do anything tangible in the game (except maybe a snazzy emote) wasn't terrible. Linking skills to them was a mistake. Ok, yeah, there are completionists who will get screwed over and try to "complete" everything, but how do you not screw them over? Even if you added lots of original and interesting content they would likely approach it in a "grindlike" manner. I don't care whether or not they add new story arcs, I will skip the dialogue and c-space it and unless there is a tangible reason for me to do so, I probably won't even do them. I still haven't done the M.O.X. storyline quests on any characters. I am sure there are people who have done it on every character, yay, quest farming. Misery 22:52, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

"I think the issue is simple, you used to be able to opt out of the grinding with no disadvantage. Once they introduced title linked skills, you had to grind those skills or you were disadvantaged.". Agreed. 000.00.00.00 23:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

"There are also parts of the game that can be 'grinded' before the completion of 'the game'." This is true, but for the most part, the majority of players do their grind in Guild Wras after they have beaten the story line.

"To me, correct me if I'm wrong, you're referring to 'beating the game' as completing the PvE Storyline" That's true. — Jon Lupen 04:30, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Furyan

I FOUND YOU! (well I knew where you were, but I was too lazy to post so meh) I wanted to Thank you and Mcjiggles again for funding the "SP needs armor project" ;). If you or Giggles need anything just pm or leave me a message on my talk page ^-^ --Shadowphoenix 18:55, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Btw... there are pots in Imperial Sanctum.... we must decipher them! --Shadowphoenix 15:32, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

They will reveal their secrets. Plus, happy to help out. Hoping to be back in the game soon, getting new pc on hire purchase ^_^ 000.00.00.00 19:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

For a second there, I thought you were talking about potions. :P I played Diablo 2 WAY too much back in the day..... — Jon Lupen 19:22, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Back in the day I played Sega Master System. Alex the Kid. Epic. 000.00.00.00 19:26, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Chips and pots, pretty much what players renamed chipped gems and potions respectively. — Jon Lupen 19:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

but can you read the pot in Diablo? I dont think so... --Shadowphoenix 19:47, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

No, that's what was throwing me off, and what made me sure you weren't talking about potions XD — Jon Lupen 19:56, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Copied from Regina's page

I've copied and pasting some of this discussion here just so I can edit down my final comment over there so it doesn't distract too much more than it already has.

NCSoft 4Q 2008 Release and References to GW2

I hope this doesn't fall under the jurisdiction of your NDA and that aNet will be willing to comment on this beyond the usual "canned" responses. In late February 2009, NCSoft released documents and a recording of a conference call held between NCSoft and participants who seemed to be major share holders. This publically released documentation sparked a question around the 46th minute of the recorded conference call that was responded to by an individual identified only as "Chris"; that GW2 release information wont be available until 2010 or 2011. While I know that any questions regarding the current status of GW2, the state of its' development, the content that will be included in it, its' underlying technology and pretty much any question regarding it or its' release date are all considered taboo by aNet, my question falls outside of that - or so I believe. So here it is: what actions will aNet be taking to retain its current customers, in light of the decision to discontinue any new content development for GW1 (chapters, expansions), for the next 1 - 2 years while GW2 is developed and is aNet management at all concerned with the potential of fan disillusionment with the Guild Wars franchise, or franchise burn-out, due to what could potentially be a 4 year period where no new content was presented to the fan-base? And a follow-up question that I think might be impacted by the NDA: is aNet counting more on attracting new customers with GW2 than with retaining current and previous GW1 customers? Thanks in advance. Pkohler01 21:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

This is guaranteed to fall under the canned response/no idea/no release to public/NDA/no info known category. Dominator Matrix 21:35, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) I'm not official, but I can address your last point, as it was covered in the PC Gamer addition for Guild Wars 2. Arena Net is looking to attract more players outside of the current Guild Wars player base with Guild Wars 2. — Jon Lupen 21:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

If Guild Wars 2 is in a question then there will be a non-answer coming.

Arenanet could try and attract newer players, yes, but it will want to fortify it's current player-base when Guild Wars 2 nears completion because it will make more of an impact on sales then new players, also if Arenanet's reputation has been damaged in the 'inbetween' time it will want to move to correct this. 000.00.00.00 22:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Arena Net does not need to do anything to retain its costumers. People are not expected to play Guild Wars every day for 10+ years, just like people don't read a book every day for 10+ years or see a movie every day for 10+ years, yet book sequels and movie sequels still sell (and often a lot). Just take a look at Blizzard games - no (sane) person plays Diablo 2 every day, or demands Blizzard to update that game now, yet there is a lot of interest for Diablo 3. Same with StarCraft and StarCraft 2.

What Arena Net is doing is the reasonable thing: they are doing the best they can so Guild Wars 2 is as good as possible, which means dedicating little to no resources to GW1. Doing the opposite (using more resources for GW1 but ending with a worse GW2) would maybe please some players now, but would only bring them (and us) a problem later on. Erasculio 22:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I just love it how people have this idea that putting a few more people into Guild Wars is going to somehow make GW2 worse for the sheer fact we know anything about the project. I wonder if Guild Wars 2 has issues is Erasculio then going to say 'If only Linsey wasn't on Guild Wars Live Team then Guild Wars 2 wouldn't have been worse'. It makes me lol. 000.00.00.00 22:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

GW2

Didn't want to add a huge paragraph to Regina's page when it was just in response to you anyways:

Everything we've been actually given about GW2 seems to show they're taking what made GW successful and improving it? They streamlined the PvE and PvP character system so you don't need to waste slots for them (you get both in one character), you start UAX when you go into a non-World PvP PvP area which helps new players compete, they removed a ton of game modes that are near impossible to balance (4v4 vs 4v4 with AI vs 8v8 vs 12v12...), still kept the max power baseline for PvP while letting PvE players "grow", a world PvP game type to appeal to people who don't like Arena style play, full environment movement (which if done right would be an actual first for the genre), skills that change depending on the situation they are used in, something akin to the 8 skill system and so on. People seem to get caught up on "welp it's persistent and has multiple races, WoW clone, ArenaNet has forgotten what made them special." or something, when from the info we've been given, it couldn't be farther from the truth. Levels that plateau in power, the actual moving storyline, that dragon world event deal that they mentioned doing lots of, and all the stuff I mentioned above, all make it different, and we don't even know the rest. What made Guild Wars successful was that it looked at a genre (MMOs), took the good parts of it (social, combat, PvP), and then added on with innovation (8 skill skill system, prot system is basically new, the way the dual class system is integrated into the game, no stats just attributes that power your skills, etc.) and removed the bad (kill & loot stealing, grind to insane levels, forced grind to compete in PvE/PvP, gear that affects the outcome of a fight, etc).

So far nothing is saying otherwise on GW2, you can still remove all those bad parts through persistence, WoW already has a kill steal prevention system in place for example, a loot prevention system could just be GW1's honestly..., and so on. So far they're taking all the good parts of GW1, innovating & improving them, removing the bad parts that didn't work so much (tons of game modes for example), and moving that forward to the next level, and knowing how smart ArenaNet can be, I think it's going to be very successful. They know how to pick their fights, hence them not making generic WoW clone as their first game. That's actually where the game was originally headed if you look at any super old videos from like 2003 or whatever. It had the WoW graphic look, and so on back then. They wised up, took a step back, realized all they were doing was going to be an exercise in failure for them, and the rest is history. I expect them to do the same again! They know what they're up against now that they're making an actual competitor to WoW. That's why the beta & game has been pushed back from the original announced date. They know that in order to beat WoW you need 3 things: originality, fun, and polish. Most current MMOs can only seem to deliver on 1-2 of those things, but they never ever deliver on the polish and stability at release. Add in no monthly fee and aggressive (it'll be very aggressive) marketing, and I think ArenaNet is going to have their second successful game on their hands. They learned what it takes to be successful from Blizzard (founders working there and all), and I think that shows on Guild Wars 1. Aside from a bug affecting certain districts causing them to lag kinda bad, Guild Wars 1 was one of the most polished games at release, more so than WoW was with WoWs constant server problems and lag issues and poor optimization in towns.

That's my take anyways. DarkNecrid 12:32, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

It's not about beating WoW, WoW's already won the race in this generation of MMOs: No other MMO has come close to matching it's success. If Guild Wars 2 does well, that's all fine and dandy, but then comparing WoW to Guild Wars 2 is like comparing a single core(CPU) to a dual core. If people are still comparing mmos to WoW at the time of Guild Wars release then WoW will still be King. Blizzard make amazing games, do you believe Guild Wars or Guild Wars 2 would be able to hold a candle to a WoW2? Probably not, then again that's an assumption, but Guild Wars sure-as-hell didn't beat WoW. There is no way of knowing what we've been told about Guild Wars 2 is still true, N.A.D. and all, and what we hear a lot from Arenanet is that things change. Very little of what we know impresses me personally, it's just words after all. Developers have a nack of saying pretty things, that sound really interesting that create a lot of hype, even heard that kind of thing with Guild Wars. It all sounds impressive but in reality it's not the greatest or as pretty as the hype dicates.

In the end, we won't know about Guild Wars 2 until it comes out, but do I think it'll beat WoW... hell no. 000.00.00.00 10:24, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm not one for mud slinging, but..... Blizzard makes generic, unoriginal games, and no longer knows how to balance said games. Before Blizzard gets my praise again, they have to do three things: 1) Show me that they know how to balance a game. 2) Show me that they can come up with something entirely original, not just a Tolkien or Games Workshop rip-off. 3) Be innovative for once, change things up and improve the genre, instead of making a game that is a super generic of it's genre (I'm looking at you Word of Warcraft). Mud-slinging over. Word of Warcraft is a juggernaut, it was good at release, gained a player base, and is carried by its momentum now. World of Warcraft is old and has had it's day, it's time Blizzard showed us they know how to innovate the mechanics behind a game and made something that wasn't an unbalanced grind, to the core. In all respects Guild Wars IS better than Word of Warcraft, Guild Wars just doesn't have the mass player base. — Jon Lupen 17:06, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Archiving Linsey's Page

I'm bringing further discussion to your page to keep things under wraps. I listed those topics and asked Linsey whether they could be archived or moved. Her holding tank being an option on where to move them. I'm not going to move or archive anything until I have a solid answer from Linsey though. — Jon Lupen 05:01, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey Mr. EA, yep, I know. 000.00.00.00 05:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm never going to live that down am I? — Jon Lupen 05:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, I get distracted ver- [sees something shiny and runs off giggling] 000.00.00.00 05:33, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Ha! No worries, it's nothing harmful, reminds me of a few people I know that call me "tree hugger" after my skiing accident colliding with a tree. — Jon Lupen 05:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

[doubletakes at the screen then falls out of chair laughing] Legendary!!!!! 000.00.00.00 05:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Your Baed!

Botting is bad! Bad man! Joking aside though mate, that sucks! I hope you get your account sorted and unbanned soon. -- Salome 03:28, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Sucks wouldn't be the word I choose to describe this situation, but thanks Salome. ^_^ And yes, botting is bad. 000.00.00.00 03:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Support

Having seen things these last years i can tell you this: if you used a bot, what happened to you is normal. If you didnt, what happened to you is also normal. Yseron - 90.9.249.209 18:06, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I have never, nor will ever, use a bot. Every mouse click, every button pressed, every button mashed for that matter has been under my own power. I can't believe I actually last sleep over this lost night, clearly I've spent far too much time on Guild Wars >.<

<must calm down and be patient.> >.<

this user would like to point out that he's loooooooooong passed the point of being patient with Arenanet/NcSoft. 000.00.00.00 18:20, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I have never had a good experience with customer service. For me, tech support doesn't fit in with customer service, who has actually dug me out of a hole a few times, but good tech support is still hard to come by....

I've had similar experiences myself. I know first hand how pissed you can get, and yes, even the calm, cold, logic thinking machine can be enraged with anger. Just sit back, take a deep breath, and play a game that involves mindlessly murdering millions. — Jon Lupen 22:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I found out what the issue was, I accept the ruling. I used a third party program (regardless of what Gaile said and what I thought 'advantage' meant) against the rules. Third party programs are a gray area. Well, it's nice to know why exactly. Guess that's it for the wiki, can't be part of the community if I can't play the game. 000.00.00.00 23:05, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Give it a bit more time, you might be able to argue your case, this time. — Jon Lupen 23:07, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Either way, there shouldn't be any gray areas with such things. I accept I used a program in a capacity that I thought was aloud. Me and gray areas don't mix, as you can tell. :P It kinda blows, I just got the perma-sin thing down for farming. lol 000.00.00.00 23:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I thought you were allowed to use GWx2?! -- Salome 23:10, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Exactly, fight for it. From just about any angle, your not the one in the wrong, so don't bend over and take it. — Jon Lupen 23:12, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not bending over and taking anything. The issue arises with allowing third party programs (period) especially with something along the lines of "as long as it doesn't give you an advantage" because that can be difficulty to argue as 'advantage' was never defined in the conversation. Bottom line is that third party programs aren't aloud as they influence or advantage your service. 000.00.00.00 23:16, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

you own both accounts though? Thus you are allowed to access them both. All that GWx2 does is take away the necessity o log onto another computer at the same time. Restrictig the use of peoples accounts in this manner is idiotic in the extreme. If you were using bots on the two accounts then fair enough, but just punishing someone for normal play is taking the piss. My adivce is Argue this and I'm sure many people will support the objection to GWx2 being banned as most of the community has used it at some point or another. -- Salome 23:21, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) GWx2 just let's you do on one computer what you can normaly do on two. Last I checked, a 3rd party program !- a ban until it gives you an advantage in game. If running two copies of Guild Wars on the same computer is an advantage, so is having access to multiple computers. — Jon Lupen 23:22, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Salome, funnily enough I layby'ed a third copy for myself, and a second copy of the Game of the Year Edition for my partner at EB Games two hours prior to coming home and finding out that I had been perma-banned. And to Mr EA. ^_^ We have multiple PCs in the house that can run Guild Wars on, one of the reasons why GWx2 was so attractive was that I didn't need to set up my second pc on the same deck, I just had to put in a second monitor and have one copy running on the other. But yes, Gwx2 does the same thing as running 2 computers with Guild Wars - yet it is less friendly as being able to use two pcs. The main use for my second account, and third (not that I want it now >.<) was for storage I believe I've 'played' on two of the characters a total of 5 hours lol. 000.00.00.00 23:28, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Mate Argue this! I and many others will support you on this one! -- Salome 23:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

My email was sent to Support before I posted on Gaile's page, it explains why I chose to use GWx2 in the first place, and links to Gaile's page where third party programs being used to allow multiple copies were brought up in the first place as it shows Gaile's response to third party program use for that reason. It's now up to them to look it over and get back to me before I take any more steps. Support is aware, and I've made Gaile aware, and it seems that many others not just on the wiki but the vents I use want to know now as they use it too. This is a lot bigger than what I realised before I sent my email. 000.00.00.00 23:47, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Gaile has responded to you. Basically she says she'll get back to you tomorrow after doing research but normally they dont ban for GWx2 use. -- Salome 23:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I had a brief chat with Regina over this, and she said to let support do it's thing, as there may be more to it than we know, and that she doesn't think support bans for GWx2. — Jon Lupen 00:02, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that. Though, I wasn't blocked, I was banned. I'm glad other people can breath easier knowing that they won't ban them for using GWx2. That's actually cheered me up right there ^_^

Jon, you chat with Regina? Nice. I think I know what's caused this. Hmmm. I'll just have to wait and see to hear Support says as to what I was doing that caused the ban. If it's not what my friend and I were just discussing over MSN then I have no clue what the hells going on. o.O 000.00.00.00 00:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I have Regina on Xfire in case of a wiki outage, an issue like this, or some other similar question or issue I don't want to leave at the mercy community. — Jon Lupen 00:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Xfire, nice. ^_^ 000.00.00.00 00:18, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

See the below — Jon Lupen 00:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Xfire

You use it? — Jon Lupen 00:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I had it on my old pc, but it never used to like it. I can't for the life of me remember what my name on it was. I had it going a few times, but it kept crashing and I never bothered to take the time to figure out why. 000.00.00.00 00:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

What wasn't to like about it? — Jon Lupen 00:23, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't know, like I said, it just kept crashing. Might have been a system bug at my end, or a hardware fault causing issues - which is the reason why I got a brand new quad core the other day ^_^ 000.00.00.00 00:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Quad core? Nice :) I have a Q6600 OCed to 3.81 GHz. If it wasn't for Xfire, i would be completely disconnected from ym friends while in a different game as them, and possibly the saem game if it's not an MMO or multiplayer. — Jon Lupen 00:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I grabbed the Q8300, I originally wanted something slightly more powerful but I choose to get the HD4870 for my graphics instead, so I got the slightly slower q8300 and replace the card in that machine. 000.00.00.00 00:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Overclocking: Pay for in increased heat and voltages for what you would have paid money for. I'm running duel 4870's in crossfire myself, runs everything like a dream, incruding crysis =D. — Jon Lupen 00:38, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I wanted to get Crysis, but I got distracted by shiny boxes that said Guild Wars Game of the Year Edition instead >.< :P Last games I got was Fallout 3 and Dawn of War 2; finally got to play Fallout 3 it at Ultra High... played it for a few hours and haven't played it since, walked by paint that was supposed to be 200 odd years old and I was blinded by the glare from the sun... For everything that's supposed to have been old and bombed I was surprised at how shiny everything was... it really turned me off the game. 000.00.00.00 00:43, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Crysis and Warhead are both excellent games, graphics aside. I haven't played Fallout 3 yet. I got into Dawn of War 1 a while back after having played (and still play) Warhammer 40,000 (its table-top counter-part) for a few years before. Dawn of war 2 well was worth it and thoroughly enjoyable.

I need to wiki less while playing Eve (or vice versa), it's making me sloppy and hasty, wiki-side and in-game. — Jon Lupen 00:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Love Dawn of War 1, I miss the whole army/building factor. Dawn of War 2 is enjoyable, still getting to the hang of it. I brought a start pack of Warhammer 40,000 stuff, I first got introduced to it when I got Space Crusade yeeeeears back. Ohhhh, EVE, totally forgot about that. Now I can try the demo again with high settings ^_^ 000.00.00.00 01:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I always loved the missions in Command and Conquer and such that were based around you making the most out of a small number of units with no source of production, and Dawn of Wars 2 is right down that ally. I play Tyranids and Space Marines in the table top, and so the addition of Tyranids to Dawn of Wars 2 was an absolute joy. I'm Jon Jupen in Eve too, feel free to look me up sometime. Eve is a beautiful game for an MMO, looks as good as Guild Wars. I haven't taken a dive inot Eve PvP yet, but I'll have to and see how balanced and such it is. Atleast it's not open to gimmicks and broken builds/professions like every other MMO. — Jon Lupen 01:14, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

With Eve I wish the flight controls were better, like you could use a joystick and dive at stations and pull up at the last second etc and so on. But, if you could crash and blow up by hitting a station I'd probably not pull up in the nick of time ^_^ 000.00.00.00 01:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I have no problems with flight in Eve, or getting around thankfully. It's so easy to get were you need to go. — Jon Lupen 02:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Last time I had a trial account I mined... and mined... and mined... actually, that's all I seemed to do ^_^ 000.00.00.00 02:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

You should try some combat. I only mine when I'm at my desk, but doing something else, seeing as how mining only requires a glance every few minutes and little attention when it needs more than that. — Jon Lupen 02:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I spent most of my mining time reading, looking at combination for ships I want, skills etc and so on. But, yes, I did try combat once, started jumping to areas and got ambushed at one of the stargates... little ship went BOOM! I wasn't impressed >.< 000.00.00.00 03:22, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, when you go into a low enough security zone in a little ship....... — Jon Lupen 03:25, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Well, I didn't know about that kind of thing >.< lol ^_^ 000.00.00.00 03:51, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

If your going to get back into it, find a corporation (Eve's equivalence of a guild) that can show you the ropes, like Eve University. — Jon Lupen 03:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

O NOEZ!!!

U GOT TEH BANHAMMER!!! QQ--Unendingfear 02:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Deletion

As I have been banned from Guild Wars I would like my wiki profile and all attached pages to be deleted. Thank you. 000.00.00.00 05:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok, not any more. [slashes, burns and dances on the ashes of his topic] 000.00.00.00 22:54, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Ban drama

Summary plz? With details. Everywhere I look you say you know why you're banned and it seems to be more than just the GWx2 thing that everyone says is ok. 69.109.118.238 17:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Summary: I don't know for sure what exactly I have been perma-banned for, I believe I know what I did but since Support hasn't (yet) given me the actual justification I can only think to what I've done different in the last few days.

GWx2 is fine as far as I know if you're just traded between accounts in an outpost, from all I can see. I believe it's what I did with and where I used it, although I think Support/Gaile/Arenanet/NcSoft needs to come out and define acceptable uses just so people aren't going "whaaa? how can I use this without fear of ban." Don't really want to go into it:

A) Pissed off I've had my account perma-banned as this is the first time I did something wrong as far as I know.

2) Jacked off Support is as useful as two frog humping to not actually give a bloody straight answer, I believe I know what I did was wrong, but for all I know it could be totally different.

D) Just lost an account I'd spent 2 years working on as far as I know my first offence, though I have no idea really, please refer to 2.

Z) "OMG I lost my account that I worked X number of months etc and so on" >.<

GWx2 is fine, like I said I believe it's what I did with it, don't want to go into great detail simply because I may believe know what I did wrong but since Support actually hasn't given me the true reason for the ban I'd rather not say too much, also I know people who've done, or still similar as to what I've did in the last three days and I'd rather not see them get perma-banned.

It's bizarre, because if it's what I think it's pointed to one event, yet that's what I get banned for

GW support sucks. :/ 69.109.118.238 20:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Ban lifted? 69.109.118.238 22:01, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, they thought I was a botting, I'm actually quite pleased with that: both the fact it's lifted but I'm 'a machine' ^_^ And, no, I have never, nor will ever use a bot. 000.00.00.00 22:14, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Ya!!!!--Unendingfear 22:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Huzzah! See, the system works! :) Many more days of Guild Wars fun for you! Macros look like bots I heard. A friend of mine has a macro set to click every minute or so that he uses in place of a drunk bot for when he is at his desk, but working on something besides games. Some people I know are convinced I'm a machine, but of the robot variety. XD — Jon Lupen 22:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad the system got it out in the end, but if they just said this stuff in the first place... [sighs] Anyway... I'm just concerned with farming now, I don't use anything like bots or macros, it's all me, and now farming just has me concerned. When I do something, I go hard out, that's my style, now I'm worried any duration of farming may get me banned and gone. 000.00.00.00 22:57, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Congratz on getting your account back!!!!!!! -- Salome 01:34, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. ^_^ 000.00.00.00 02:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

gwx2

Hi! Can I ask you for a link where you downloaded gwx2? I really don't want to get any infected versions. and if there are special requirements (Winxp SPs) please tell me them. Thanks in advance. Boro 19:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

this is the official page. Don't download the drunkard bot, because that's a bot. 99.142.47.23 19:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

A weird thing happened: My father also downloaded it, and the first client loaded so quickly, that the second client couldn't start, and closed itself. Boro 14:39, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Userpage

While it makes me smile, it's more than twice the size allowed by GWW:USER put them on a gallery subpage or something. -- Wyn 20:18, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Ghosst mentioned something about that, but I wasn't really thinking, I'll sort it out today. Sorry, Wyn. ^_^ 000.00.00.00 21:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

who would have thought

u are a wiki addict... i didn't know hehe Hai - Kelli 02:25, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

No, not really. I just use it to bitch and moan like a lil boy ^_^ 000.00.00.00 03:53, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

^ *scurries back to emo corner* --Shadowphoenix 16:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Now, now. There'll be none of that thank you very much ^_^ [/ragequit] >:| 000.00.00.00 19:58, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

At least your complaints have a point. Ghosst • Talk • 20:15, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Not always >:| Sometimes I like jumping around my monkey cage [rage] ^_^ Hey, Ghosst. 000.00.00.00 20:18, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

^ *scurries back to emo corner* --Shadowphoenix 02:45, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

[grabs duck and some tape] 000.00.00.00 02:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

well u do seem to rant a lot... this is a side of the furman I've never seen... o.o .... scary- Kelli 09:46, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Meh, lol you haven't seen anything, what you scared about o.O 000.00.00.00 09:49, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Thoughts on the Z-quests

The bare minimum a developer can do is re-release old stuff with a slightly new look, and this is what the Z-quests are. It is old content that has been slightly reharshed. In fact, we've seen this before.

Z quests are the new hard mode? 69.109.191.246 23:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Your hard work is admirable

However, you fail to understand that, no matter how you care to glorify your eknighting, it still is eknighting. I give A+ for your avid fanboiism, though. Keep it up!Pika Fan 05:35, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm a Knight? Shiny ^_^ 000.00.00.00 05:38, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I am very disappointed with your most recent attempt; either give me something logically sound, or don't post on my talkpage at all. Thanks.Pika Fan 05:55, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Dude, I'm enjoying this. You're trying, but still. ^_^ Want some popcorn? 000.00.00.00 06:09, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

lulz *steals Furyan's popcorn* --Shadowphoenix 15:04, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Pika Fan, your trolling recently has been sub par, please improve. See me after class. Misery 15:09, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Misery, I'm sorry but you're not important enough for me to give a hoot, sadly. And, hi Shadowphoenix how are ye? ^_^ 000.00.00.00 19:25, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Good, yourself? *munches on popcorn and contemplates putting more butter on it* --Shadowphoenix 19:33, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Not bad, just playing with the native. 000.00.00.00 19:55, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Uh wut? I was addressing Pika Fan, you didn't have to care. Misery 23:06, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I was moody, I just wanted Pika all to myself, Pika = awesome o.o 000.00.00.00 00:46, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

New page :D

It's bigger than my screen :( -- anguard 22:47, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Meh Birfday prezentz

Since I have a crap computer, I won't be on GW or Vent at all this week and prob. next week /cry . Just make sure you tell everyone in vent that I didn't rage quit or anything like that, my computer is in for repairs and will be for about 2 weeks give or take a few days. I would really appreciate it if you kept everyone posted ^_^. <3 --Shadowphoenix 20:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I will keep everyone posted, and all treed just to be on the safe side. I feel your computer's pain, I'm sick too >.< And, since you won't be on, Happy Birthday in advance for the 15th. ^_^ 000.00.00.00 21:29, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey Hey

Hiya! Just wanted to see how everyone is doing, since I haven't talked to you guys in like forever :P Send Giggles my love ^_^ --Shadowphoenix 07:22, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey. I'm doing good. Not with Blade much these days, still listening to Giggles (naturally), Andro when he's DJing and Ripple but that's about it, most of RPG is off the Blade Vent a lot of the times, a lot of us are sick of the emo/sexual crap on it. Still try to pop on time to time.

Not really into Guild Wars that much either, kind of accessing whether I want to keep playing. Re-started my modding of Fallout 3 again, even had a look back at Oblivion. Ohh ohh, and have Sims 3.

So, how are you? 000.00.00.00 22:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I want to buy a copy of Sims 3 :D. So eliot is being emo again? (when you say emo, he usually comes to mind) Yeah, I here Blade Vent has been going down the tubes since I left (naturally ;D). I am doing well, having fun with all different kinds of games. Speaking of modding! I have been creating levels in Civ 3 and then losing in Cheiftian mode to other civs on the level that I CREATED... ugh... still fun though ^_^. Good to hear everyone is well. --Shadowphoenix 02:24, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Sims 3 improved over the core elements of Sims 2, can imagine they can product a good number of expansions without changing it too much. Haven't look at their online store for stuff, perfer to wait for modding tools/system to be formulated. I dislike paying for stuff people do for free, like stuff the mod community does by default.

Yeah, Blade Vent is what the people make it, I suppose. Try not to be down on it too much, but I only go on if Giggles wants me to. And yes, naturally, since you left the sun went down and all the weirdoes came back o.O O.O lol 000.00.00.00 03:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the sun does tend to shy away from places where I am not present... I suppose the crops in New Zealand may need some sun, so I might possibly some day soon pop on vent so your country doesn't die of starvation, thats how much I <3 u ;) --Shadowphoenix 06:01, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

LoL. 000.00.00.00 06:15, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Map-travel question

Big page, I'll keep this brief. With the map-travel system that Guild Wars has is it possible to set up a map marker on the player's map (that you can click and travel to as standard) that would put you into an explorable area as opposed to Outposts and Cities? ~~000.00.00.00~~ 00:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I know you want a Dev response first, but I've submitted a Theory and possible Evidence that our Travel maps aren't always Accurate or even the same proportions. Therefore attempting to use them as a reliable pin-point "portal" into that specific location in an instanced area would be flawed and might even cause players to get "stuck in the geometry". So no I don't believe it would be possible unless they were to break every section up into having it's own spawn-points and that would an OBSCENE amount of work to undertake for almost no benefit (or more likely, a total-negative by making Speed-Farming WORSE) --ilr 01:31, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't mind others adding such as yourself, Ilr, that is an interesting read but I don't believe it relates to this. An example of what I'm asking: say you're in Nightfall and there's a quest to clear all Corsairs out of the central area of the Issnur Isles so some workers can get back to work on the ruins in the centre of the explorable. Once the requirements of the quest is completed there's a map marker added to the player's map that allows him/her to map-travel to the ruins in the explorable area. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 01:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah well why didn't ya say that then, heh. Yeah as long as the game engine is the "entity" saving/recording those exact Coordinates as Spawn Locations, then some simple code could be written to generate them as "clickables" and the "Scaling" issue of translating exact coordinates on our "picture Maps" could be totally sidestepped. (in other words: it was a U.I. issue, but this would bypass any issues with scaling the "UI") --ilr 02:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

This is definitely a question for Joe. - Linsey talk 06:04, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

[talks in my less annoying voice] Hello Joe ^_^ ~~000.00.00.00~~ 08:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Assuming it's possible, why would you want this feature? - Joe Kimmes 16:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

This does sound interesting. And, I'd assume it would be wanted for quick access to non-outpost towns, similar reason to why outposts like Ventari's Refuge and Bergen Hot Springs is liked. They are hardly visited but have worthy reasons to be outposts, just as the Ascalon Settlement does - but isn't an outpost. IMO, this feature would have been a better use than a majority of the outposts that are there (talking about the outposts that are seldom visited) as you'd have access there, but it would be in the explorable area so no hooking up with teams, but still serves the purpose of having a spawn point nearby harder-to-reach locations. They would, essencially, act like either Bokka Amphitheatre or the explorables you enter after a mission (which usually only happens in EN missions, iirc) except that you can get there from any location. Though not needed - and imo... never mind, going any further would probably put this into a suggestion instead of "how this would work" (from a purpose prospective) and "why would people want this". -- Azazel the Assassin/talk 16:40, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Why would I want this feature? [shifty eyes] I want many things, purely this was more a question if it's possible within the current engine (without modifications), if the mechanics for the maps required you be ported into an area like an outpost or, as Azazel goes into, areas of interest within an explorable. The map has been something I've been interested in for a while, how it works and such, so this was a question that got me thinking. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 20:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

From a technical standpoint, the game can easily port you into an explorable area, so long as you aren't picky about which entrance you turn up at. - Joe Kimmes 21:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

That last bit threw me. So, as for my example to Ilr, is that possible? A map marker in a specific point on the map, with a specific spawning point in the explorable? ~~000.00.00.00~~ 21:04, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

The game can send you anywhere and to any position from any location if needed. This is not hard to see occurring all over the place in the game already - you appear at varying points in outposts, you can be sent from an explorable area into a mission, groups start missions in different places for cooperative missions, etcetera. - Joe Kimmes 21:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Joe. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 21:24, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Right, umm... Not to stretch this out any longer than it already is, but Joe's Example where your whole party is automatically moved to the same spot in an explorable area (usually following a Cinematic) is a "Scripted Event". In other words the Quest/World-builder placed a Spawn Flag at that exact point maunally. And what you're basically inquiring about is for the Game to start recording the point you were standing at when you exited that explorable area, or when a Quest updated. Which is quite easy to do assuming they have the database space to add those sets of Coordinates to every character's data file on their Server. Actually marking that location on your Map-Picture might be trickier from a U.I. standpoint but it could definitely be done without risking any major Voodoo bugs re-occurring.
And yeah, as for Why... well let's flash back to one of the things Anet said itself that it regretted about this game and wanted to improve upon in GW2: Which is that the setting the Player is "thrust into" immediately upon arriving in Post-Searing, is Barren Harsh and Unlivable. Infact it's downright depressing and doesn't really improve until we've reached the end of that character's "career", only then do we get that "favorite Spot" to log-out in or just to idle at. And unfortunately many of the most breath-taking Spots are all out in explorable areas and take too long to get to. (Certain Guildhalls, and the Menagerie aside). The point of this feature in question, would be to access those places instantly and remedy to-some degree that Oversight Anet also admits it seeks to remedy. HTH. --ilr 23:37, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

That's an impressive leap to link the sentiment 'Post-Sear is initially depressing and you can't go back to Pre-Sear' to 'you should be able to save a point and travel there instantly'. Anyway, I've answered the technical side of this, so further discussion can probably take place on a design suggestion page. - Joe Kimmes 23:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Hm... but such a thing would require to clean the party spawn point of hostile NPCs, and deactivate any possible enemy spaw point, otherwise you'll end up appearing in the middle of various creatures. Hm... I remember a suggestion about a 'sightseen' mode, that would be activated after getting carthographe, and that would allow you you enter explorables with no enemies (Much like Zen Daijun after cleaning it, but without Vanquish by killing an animal, of course). The a feature like this could make a bit more sense, if it's for roleplaying purposes. Otherwise it could be used, for example, to instantly teleport to farming spots, and that won't be really good. MithTalk 14:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

This is a Pandora's Box when it comes to farming, unless it is done like the suggested sightseeing mode, with no enemies, after Cartographer title is complete. It would be like a reward for earning the title, now you can go look at all the breathtaking envorinments Anet created without anything wanting to eat you. Environment speed boost effect would be in order for that. And as Joe said, this should now be moved to designers, but the suggestion issues aren't resolved just yet. Rose Of Kali 16:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Guilty as charged! But ya did ask "Why", heh. ...And those are some great points Mith/Rose. Someone please move all the better details of this discussion to the Sugg pages as soon as the new wording is in place. Thx Joe! --ilr 00:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Discussions, love them but:

1. The question was answered.
2. The suggestion part, which was not mine, can go on to a suggestion page later because the original question had nothing to do with a suggestion more the capability of the engine in regards to the map. Perhaps if people wanted to move that part of this topic on to their user talk-page to continue the discussion it might be better.
3. Mith, "but such a thing would require to clean the party spawn point of hostile NPCs, and deactivate any possible enemy spaw point, otherwise you'll end up appearing in the middle of various creatures.", well that's not exactly true. Arenanet has portal spawn points that are within enemy spawn points or their patrol routes at least; a quick example would be portalling between Norrhart Domains to Bjora Marches, there is a chance you're dead or under attack by enemies even before you fully load (remembers my assassin dying here when keg farming, quite a few times) and there's also a similar occurance of this on the Droks run also and other places where patrols come dangerously close, if not within immediate aggro range of the portal and/or res-shrine spawn points. If such a map point was created it wouldn't necessarily be required to be a clean point.

Thank you, have a nice day. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 01:06, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I never got any of those encounters after entrance, but that's precisely the reason to clean around. Not everyone has a fast loading computer, and the stances load in the always before the client. Those spots you mention are exceptions. MithTalk 01:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Continued on from Joe's page

This is true, but if a feature such as this was to be integrated one can assign an element of risk to it, yes you can map travel into an explorable but there's an element of danger that goes with, though with my example if was quest related so it could be clear it requirements are met. All are possibilites. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 02:06, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Nah, with enemies there, people would just use the feature to quickly get to farming spots. More speed is the less desired thing for farming (although logically the thing farmers want more). Going to any spot in an empty location should be OK. Quickly getting to a safe spot near a mob you want to far is not. MithTalk 02:12, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I see your point. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 02:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

meh

Coulda tagged them for deletion before I retagged them all :P -- Wyn talk 06:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I was going to write an apology on your page, but it wasn't until you tagged them that I remembered to check my To-Do-List (yes, remarkably I have one) and I needed to start cleaning up my wiki pages. Sorry, didn't mean for your work to be in vain. Feel free to throw a cookie at me... and please make it chocolate. [runs off and gets a cup of tea ready.] Ok.... now! ^_^ ~~000.00.00.00~~ 06:53, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

LOL! It's ok. I was just teasing :D I figured that seeing your images getting spammed in RC might have jump started a housecleaning spree :D -- Wyn talk 06:56, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

^_^ ~~000.00.00.00~~ 07:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

you could...

Just link to: [2] :P -- Wyn talk 01:51, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I was looking for a page like that but my Wiki-fu is not strong, that and I didn't look for longer than 10 seconds. But that shows everything where as I might not want to show everything. That, and I can't edit that page with pretty... eh, I mean manly pictures of stuff doing stuff.... like wrestling bears with my bare hands. (O.O .... yeah... I think they brought that.) ^_^ ~~000.00.00.00~~ 03:47, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

LOL! Well, I just thought it might help :D At least now YOU can see all your pages :P -- Wyn talk 04:30, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Infinate Loop

You've just created one. =O — Jon Lupen 03:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Again? 8O My graphics drivers did that today, nice little infinite loop warning. Pain in my ass! >.< ~~000.00.00.00~~ 03:44, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Batten down the internet hatches! --★KOKUOU★ 03:45, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

DONE! What next Captain?! *salutes*

He could also like his cookies with nuts in them, but who knows for sure? — Jon Lupen 03:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

This is true. Wait, let me ring him---- ohhhh, that's right >:| ~~000.00.00.00~~ 03:48, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Let's see if I have any better luck. *runs for phone* — Jon Lupen 04:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

My blood, he punched out all my blood! — Jon Lupen 04:06, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I got "I don't want your effin Girl Guide cookies!" O.O How did he know? I didn't get around to the cookies! It... it ... magic :O ~~000.00.00.00~~ 04:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, have you heard the good news? — Jon Lupen 17:07, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

They finally made a chocolate that tastes like 5 types of icecream? No, I didn't know that, but I'm very impressed. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 19:43, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

DoW 2

Its a nice game. Coulď you get five speed star with five fury stars on mount siccaris (with SM vs Tyranids)? --Boro 10:32, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Nah, not yet. I need to get back into it, went back to Fallout 3 for a bit after beating it once. Should probably reinstall it. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 10:38, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Although I tried with Commander+Cyrus+Tarkus+Avitus, I got 3 speed stars on top of 5 fury 5 resilences. Hope that Thule will speed things up. --Boro 18:08, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Time out huh?

LOL!!!!! I was not rude, or obnoxious... I just pointed out (twice) he really needs to buy a dictionary! -- Wyn talk 09:06, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

>:|

Don't take that tune with me, young lady. :P You weren't very helpful, either and it's a new age, books are old school www.dictionary.com for the win!!! ^_^~~000.00.00.00~~ 09:24, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

ROFL! I'm sorry. He's just..... I mean, just 4 days ago he was on Linsey's page asking her to do something about how ridiculous TA was getting because of the "Shove" build and asking her to nerf it. Well... she's giving it the ultimate nerf, and now he crying about how much fun he has playing it, and how it doesn't hurt anything to leave it rather than delete it. It's just..... OMFG! -- Wyn talk 09:52, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

True. It's a bold move, I'm still curious to see how RA will go once syncing goes (that alone is one of the main reason I know people that I know played RA, or any form of random area). But, he will continue going down his path, and remember: links are your friend :P ^_^ ~~000.00.00.00~~ 09:58, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Anyway... thanks for sharing the lulz with me. I'm off to bed. -- Wyn talk 10:10, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi

It's funny to see how ignorant people can be ^___^ Vortex ™ 10:16, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, I am lacking in some training. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 10:30, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

"It's funny to see how ignorant people can be" I've been thinking the same thing :P -- Wyn talk 10:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

>:| <points finger to the door> Bed, now~ >:| You young people and your not listening, must be all that Michael Bolton music. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 10:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

*grabs popcorn and video camera* -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 14:40, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

So, what did u think of my page? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Athena Shadows (talk).

It's cool. Mine's in a snow storm... yeah, that's right, a snowstorm. Ohhh and it's good to sign your comments with ~~~~ . It's a policy, I believe. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 02:08, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. I do usually sign its just that it was such a short post that i forgot lol My bad.--Athena Shadows 02:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I used your sig when making mine, how do you think it looks? -- Tha Reckoning File:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg 07:18, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Nice. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 09:38, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Redundant topic is redundant

Because we have, except it has to be hammered into a different person's head each time. — Jon Lupen 20:27, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Oh, well. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 20:34, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh Hai Thar!

Hey Furyan! I'm in your wiki's, distracting your pages... -- Lacky 09:45, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

So, I hear. Hunny, where's my shotgun? >:) ~~000.00.00.00~~ 22:01, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

You can't go running to Anna anymore... -- Lacky 23:38, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Nah, she'll just kick your ass >:) ~~000.00.00.00~~ 23:42, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Probably. =P Don't want to her angry now. ^_^ -- Lacky 03:48, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

You Stole The Scarecrows Birthday.He will Now eat you.

OMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNONMONOM P.s hey furyan :P --Neil2250 18:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Mhm. Thought u may want this >_<

{{userbox|black|{{R-color}}|[[Image:Spiteful Spirit.jpg|45px]]|This user's birthday is on the 13<sup>th</sup> of March. You'd better not forget!}}

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This user's birthday is on the 13th of March. You'd better not forget!

--Neil2250 15:58, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

LOL Very nice. ^_^ ~~000.00.00.00~~ 09:54, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Now u gots to deal with me here aswell :3 --Neil2250 09:56, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

^_^ Just make sure you don't fall over in here, get tea-bagged... then have Odin sit on you... then get speared... over, and over again. That was pretty funny though. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 10:10, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

So you mean he's not Odining anymore? =P -- Lacky 11:46, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Ive still got 7 of his pants.243 more and i get a stack of tanned hide squares ;)--Neil2250 15:52, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I only have one. =( -- Lacky 10:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

ill buy,how much for 1 tanned hide square?--Neil2250 18:00, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

LOL ~~000.00.00.00~~ 20:31, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Ohai

wanna give my birthday back yet? I mean how are you? ^_^; --Neil2250 11:35, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Considering Furyan is an old fart older than you, I think you stole it from him. =P -- Lacky 12:04, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Wanna stop stealing my stuff Oh really? I can't really see that happening, it's kind of attached to me right now. It's an inappropriate thing. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 21:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

i herd..

Rumor go'in round you are hearding furries in your spare time to do your evil bidding.is this true? --Neil2250 16:17, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

lol at first i thought u wre an IP

^--88.24.12.200 15:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

He is an IP, only Satan's IP adress. Kalizar, Lord of War 22:15, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

lol ~~000.00.00.00~~ 21:33, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I can solve mysteries

Furyan, in the canthan new year,around the 14th of Febuary, did you find yourself randomly partyless in Saoshang Trail?, If so.blame me :3 --Neil2250 13:33, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

It was you *points angry looking finger* >:| ~~000.00.00.00~~ 09:49, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Important New Policy

Ghosst • Talk • 19:51, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Classic, I LOVE IT! ^_^ ~~000.00.00.00~~ 09:48, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to have to agree with Ghosst on this one, Furyan. -- Lacky 07:00, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

but... but... what about the album he promised me? --Shadowphoenix 00:33, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Invatation To...

If you dont enter,you cats will be mine :D --Neil2250 The Render Nazi 23:08, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Here is the Page for it--Neil2250 The Render Nazi 23:17, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Congratulations =) -- Cyan 11:53, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

User Page

Hey! Its no longer a snowstorm!!! lol. I like the picture. Hope all is well with everyone in your guild and alliance. Whisper me in game or send me a comment back? I would love to get a whisper from you guys every now and then. Maybe even another UW run or something sometime. I know I'm not in the guid/alliance anymore but you are still my friend as long as you want to be. Miss you guys =D --Athena Shadows 21:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)