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I still dont understand...

Why is Dhuum so bad, Ive read the above, and dont see the problem. In fact, all I see is five censurous, anti-anyother opinion, powerful group of gods. Why, if Dhuum doesnt let rezes or undead happen, is that so bad (beyond the fact it'd ruin me...)?-- Necro Shea Mo 02:25, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

such a troll, but anyway, it's the "death undeniable" thing... keeping people down is pretty serious! imagine if people died forever here on earth?? | 72 | 02:34, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

I think it's the fact that he hunts down those who cheated death - doubt that's in reference to something he didn't allow happening - and, as a possibility based on how he even escapes, it seems he utilizes souls for power (he gets powerful from deaths of creatures in the underworld), which is no different than what demons do. -- Konig/talk 03:09, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Ok, the hunting down thing is bad, but arent, when youre dead deaad-oh, nevermind, I just proved the point... Imagine no way at all to even try to bring someone back... I still kinda think that that's how it should be... Except for the hunting people down.-- Necro Shea Mo 04:01, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Apparently Grenth disagrees (as does the dictation of game necessities). Besides, Dhuum is also responsible (either directly or indirectly, we're unsure) with making the Titans and working alongside demons. The demon thing may be post-downfall, but Titans have existed for "eons" (they're as old as the Forgotten, which are older than 3,000 BE - e.g., over 4,000 years old as of GW1, and the earliest mention of Grenth is 50-some BE - they're also know to the seers who's civilization collapsed before the Gods' arrival, the time of which we don't know but it is no later than the Forgotten's). And some fun fact about demons and titans: They are known to be very ravenous and greedy when it comes to devouring souls. -- Konig/talk 04:08, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

He just isn't much of a people's person :P - Arxae

bug spelling error?

Bug: After defeating Dhuum, King Frozenwind sometimes fails to teleport you into Dhuum's chamber, which prevents you from getting the Underworld chest. If this happens, you should run as far as possible back into wastes. Most often, this reactivates King Frozenwind and you can get the Underworld chest

King Frozenwind sometimes fails to teleport you into Dhuum's chamber

He can't teleport you, since you have to be in Dhuum's chamber to start the battle with him and can't leave after, so there is no way he could teleport you into Dhuum's chamber. The only explanation I can find for this is that it is a language error and it should be: Teleport to you. I'm going to change this, revise if you want or if I am wrong. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.95.85.186 (talk).

1) New sections go to the bottom. 2) Sign your comments with 4 tildes (~~~~). 3) The door to the chamber opens iirc, so I honestly don't know what the bug is referring to. -- Konig/talk 17:18, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Energy

His energy regeneration and energy pool are way too high it not sure about his exact energy but his regeneration is at least 9pips 78.35.150.158 07:51, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm finding that somehow doubtful. How were you to figure this out, I wonder? Konig/talk 16:02, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

esurge UWSC took me quite some time to get him down to 0 energy and when i used echoed esurge right after he hit 0 energy he took 27 damage 14 fastcast+essence reduces esurge to about 0.8sec cast w/e blahblahmumu hope you get my point, sincerely your 78.35.146.252 02:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Regains Health

It should be noted that Dhuum regains health for every enemy creatures that dies. This is noticeable when playing as SoS in uwsc runs, and you spam Sos on recharge, you see dhuum gain a few blips of health when spirits die, as compared to not spamming sos--Wracken 18:10, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Lolz

Dhuum says hi http://i.imgur.com/RXGG9.jpg 89.108.110.170 04:31, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Knockdown

"He can't be knocked down unless the duration of the knockdown is enhanced". Does that mean Earthbind in combo with Wanderlust can make keep him knock downed almost the whole fight thus making this quest way easier? --Kilaa1000 12:33, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. We used to use it with Great Dwarf Weapon + Earthbind back when Physway did UW. File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 12:43, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Dhuum's speech

His all capitals speech might be a nod towards Death from Terry Pratchett's Discworld series. Their dialogues are both in all capitals. --109.166.131.247 19:48, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

This has been discussed before, see the archive. --Silver Edge 05:29, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Lowercase

• Balthazar:

"Then did Balthazar, god of war and fire, appear to the soldiers, carrying with him a grand sword that did glow with such brilliance it blinded any who looked upon it. When he spoke, His voice was like thunder, and it shook the ground with force."

• Dwayna:

"And when the world rang with the clanging of swords and did fire fall from the skies, Dwayna, goddess of life and air, heard the wailings and pleas of the weak."

• Grenth:

"Appeared then the god, and with bony hands outstretched, welcomed the girl into His fold. Saith he, "I am your god. Follow where I lead, come whence I call, and the rotted corpses of the dead will be yours to control." And swearing allegiance in life and beyond, did Desmina thence become the god's first follower."

• Lyssa:

"Then the sickened woman pulled from her body the robes of plague, revealing Herself to be the goddess Lyssa."

• Goddess of Truth:

"Yet the power of a god cannot be destroyed, and Kormir, making a choice that only a mortal could make, did take upon herself the mantle of the Goddess of Truth, with all its power and responsibility, all its dominion and duties."

Note that despite the scriptures are lowercase for the term, every time they are refered by gender its: His/Her. The title of God are capitalised.

There is no single God. ¥oshida Keiji(talk) 13:16, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Not actually sure which side you're on, but the scriptures in-game are highly inconsistent in addressing the gods. Except for Dwayna's and Melandru's scriptures (Abaddon's is inconclusive, Kormir's is probably not a good reference), the capitalization for the gods is all over the place. However, there is another source we should take into account: the manuals. In the manuals, none of the gods' genders are capitalized. Titles are capitalized in both instances, as well as their names. ArenaNet doesn't seem to have a conclusive house of style for addressing the gods' genders on the matter, leaving the question: do we follow the manual's lower case on the wiki (save in quotes), or do we stick to the current system?

This discussion should probably be moved elsewhere, as it regards all gods and half-gods. - Infinite - talk 14:43, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Checking the manuals was my first thought but I don't wanna dig between all my stuff and can't remember exactly where I left the GW box. Other than that I would be keen to follow in-game description and also cinematics if there is any that makes reference.

I prefer to see others opinions first before making reconfirmations because this was one of my "side-step" edits, my current target articles are the statues themselves I found still with stub tag and without image (I have been waiting for Favor of the Gods to take screenshots), since this is not my main interest at the moment I have no strong feel about this matter.

Also if this discussion is ever moved somewhere else I would like administrators to notice "Falsification" term (brought by Auron, but now in use by Konig). The term Falsification implies the subject to intentionaly be distorting the truth. When I originaly added that note, I had no such intention... but if we are going to play with that word, sure I can use it too. ¥oshida Keiji(talk) 14:59, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

As said on my talk page, it varies on how it is used. I mentioned the Christianity god in my summary as an example, not the rule. A god is lowercase, because it is akin to human or charr. It is capitalized when it is a name (e.g., Christianity's god, God) or a title (e.g., Old Gods, God of Death). Though note - sometimes as title, it can be lowercase (e.g., god of death) too.

In editing and on forums, people have a habit of capitalizing it. Most likely due to the Abrahamic faiths' influence on modern world, IMO. But a god is not spelled a God. Referring to God is capitalized because it's his name/title attributed to him instead of a name - no more (same with His, He, etc.). Konig 01:44, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

You can find all the manuals on the official site by following the link at Gameplay manual. Also, Favor of the Gods is active all this week due to the Pantheon weekly bonus if you wanted to take screenshots of the statues during Favor of the Gods. --Silver Edge 02:08, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Dhuum's undead minions and verta's aura

would Verata's Aura be an effective counter to Dhuum's minions or are they not subject to the mechanics of regular minions?Driftwood (talk) 15:03, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I do not believe they count as minions but rather standard skeleton NPCs. Konig 04:43, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Orr?

"Dhuum was challenged and usurped by the half-god Grenth and seven heroes who followed him and was struck down in the ossuary of the Cathedral of Eternal Radiance in Orr. Dhuum's tower was shattered, creating the Chaos Plains..." I can't find a source on this. Where is this from? Blue Totoro (talk) 12:45, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

By the looks of it, it's an inference from the location of Dhuum's Last Stand. --Santax (talk · contribs) 12:58, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Comment about the pun on "doom"...

Well, duh, anyone could have told us that. Of course, "doom" isn't specifically a term for a lingering death. Its origins lie in Anglo-Saxon, where the ancestor word meant "law" or "judgement". Related meanings have sort of taken over, and only some of them relate to death, but where "doom" does refer to death, that death could be quite sudden. Cynique (talk) 08:45, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

I concur with your assessment regarding the quality of the comment (as can be seen in my edit comment as well). So if you wanna undo the addition (or improve it) I certainly wouldn't lament too much. Steve1 (talk) 17:38, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

It's toast. Cynique (talk) 13:41, 29 July 2014 (UTC)