Talk:Galrath

I think he actually USED to wield a sword... sometime before the release of factions. 71.126.56.114 04:21, 8 May 2010 (UTC)MedicDude

History

What if Galrath was the previous Firstwatch of the Lionguard, before Sergio? It would explain why some still have "loyalty" towards him and also Sergio's comment on how his predecessor faltered the Lionguard's reputation? Might add it to the trivia if no one objects? 94.0.200.242 22:23, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Don't know where that predecessor bit comes from, but speculation should be off of the page. I'm going to rephrase the speculative notes into facts. -- Konig/talk 23:42, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. When speaking to Sergio he mentions this in respect to my predecessor point. "Why, I am still the leader of the Lionguard! My predecessor had allowed the reputation of the Lionguard to falter, but I mean to restore honor and glory to her ranks once more."94.0.200.252 16:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Broken Armor

He dropped Broken armor which had rune of minor Expertise in it. Thought those drop only from corresponding professions. Barbe-Q Michael 13:07, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

The only rune/inscription thing I know of is that the expansion professions only drop in the campaign they come from (and EN). Never has it been of corresponding professions - I've gotten salvage armor dropped that had a ranger inscription and an elementalist rune before. -- Konig/talk 21:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Same.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 21:55, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Why 3 levels?

"Level: 20 (29) [40]" - Why? There are only 2 modes. --War_Pig5 18:29, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

two modes, but 2 different quest levels: normal, hard, and hard mode with hard mode quest active.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 18:35, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) He's super-buffed during the special Hard Mode version of the quest. 198.160.96.7 18:36, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Galrath Slash

Even after the buff with the new HM quest he still doesn't use it. They at least could have given him his namesake skill. Damysticreaper 00:03, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Things are often named after people; that doesn't mean they use them. George Washington didn't build the Washington Monument. I doubt The Donald uses Trump perfume. French Fries probably weren't invented in France. Heck, Central Square in Cambridge isn't necessarily central or a square.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 00:49, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

But techniques with a person's name are almost always named after their inventor. Damysticreaper 10:27, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I disagree. That's frequently true, but not universally; sometimes, like places, techniques are named in honor of someone (and sometimes, as in high school, they are named in dishonor). For instance, if there was a GW skill that caused a hero to shadow step away from the party, draw aggro, at a cost of 50% health...well, the obvious name for that is Prince Rurik's Tactic (whether or not Captain Suicide actually uses the skill is irrelevant to my suggested name; it fits his reputation).  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 15:17, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Very rarely is a technique ever not named after its inventor if it is named after someone. In these cases, they are named after their almost-inventor. In this case, there's no way Galrath is even an almost-inventor, and he doesn't have any skill remotely similar to Galrath Slash. –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 15:31, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I saw him use Galrath Slash. I'll do the quest again on another character and see if I can get a screen of it. So far I'm sure he has 100B, Ward Against Elements/Foes, and Bonetti's Defense. He probably has FGJ and Lion's Comfort but I haven't personally seen him use those yet. 71.31.145.32 16:51, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

• L'Hôpital's rule was discovered by Johann Bernoulli.
• Bobbies are named after Sir Robert Peel, who was not a police officer.
• Karl Marx was not a Marxist, Trotsy was no Trotskiite, and Jesus was not a Christian. (Although, of course, each of them espoused ideals that gave birth to those political/religious movements.)
• Bluetooth technology is named after Harald Bluetooth, who united tribes, not communication protocols.

Of course, it's much more likely that a technique is named after the person who first used/inspired/sponsored it, but there's no grammatical or etymological rule that requires that to be true. Accordingly, Galrath doesn't have been the first to use Galrath's Slash. Or, he could have used it years ago...but found that he prefers Hundred Blades better.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 17:20, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

You are starting to take it too seriously by now, anyways what i just meant to say but you amazingly managed to divert (and still manage to fail by not including any techniques in you example wich the namesake reference is about) is that if anet has decided to give him a namesake skill they at least could have included his namesake skill in his build. Damysticreaper 17:46, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I think Galrath is the only NPC to use a self-named skill (by that, I mean that I don't think any other skill with NPC names are used by the NPC the skill is named after). -- Konig/talk 19:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Verata, Bonetti, Leviathan Claw. But in the end he does use it. Now the remaining namesake skills like Dryder's Defenses and Griffon's Sweep. Damysticreaper 19:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Leviathan Claw doesn't count because it's not a unique enemy (singular NPC name - same would go for Dryder's Defense and Griffon's Sweep), but touche on the Verata and Bonetti. The namesakes we need are those like Jamei's Gaze. :P -- Konig/talk 19:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Teinai's Crystals, Rodgort's Invocation, Teinai's Heat, Kitah's Burden, Jamei's Gaze, Karei's Healing Circle, Verata's Aura, Verata's Gaze, Verata's Sacrifice, Zojun's Haste, Zojun's Shot, Xinrae's Weapon

That's my quick check of skills with an apostrophe that aren't named after a god or generic foe type. (Not all of them have NPCs that can be seen in-game.) — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 20:09, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

There's quite a few eponymous monster skills. Manifold 20:27, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

@TEF: Xinrae isn't an NPC, but she sure was defiant. You also forgot Silverwing Slash, named after Talon Silverwing, and Jaizhenju Strike, at least. -- Konig/talk 20:31, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Well Talon and Jamei already use the skills named after them, but what i just imagined is Teinai using a Master of Magic build including all the teinai skills in WoC. Well since galrath seems to have his skill bar updated to include his skill FB may include such updates as well. Damysticreaper 22:04, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

@Konig: my criteria didn't include is there an NPC? The inclusion criterion is: is there an apostrophe? The exclusions are: named after god and named after generic beast. I didn't look at monster skills (didn't have a handy list). Therefore: Xinrae on the list, and Giant Stomp off. — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 00:01, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

You know, only the reference to Bluetooth actually helped the argument that things aren't usually named after their inventor or almost-inventor. :\ –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 00:48, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Galrath Slash (From Rox Ashreign talkpage)

"The Galrath family were masterful swordsmen. The last leader of this brave order, Galrath of Shaemoor, invented a technique so devastating (called the Galrath Slash) that even the Charr facing it were impressed. Impressed, but not stupid, the Charr quickly learned to mimic this skill, and so turned it upon their foes.

"Time passed, and Galrath of Kryta (descendant of his namesake), rebelled against the order of the White Mantle who killed his son (a Chosen) and his father who encouraged it, deciding never again to practice this signature technique. He chose to fight instead with an axe and without shield, to show his opposition to the life he had led before. After the murder of his father, a well known and beloved White Mantle leader, and also a respected citizen of Lion's Arch, he decided to march upon the wizard's tower in Kessex Peak in hopes of finding some power to overthrow the White Mantle, murderers of his son.

"(in his travel to the Wizard's Tower, he hired some roving Bandits and the Cult of Verata to protect him in his journey.) lussh 18:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

(Although not the cult of verata in hard mode quest ; the bandits pwned them.) So galrath does not use his father's skill, end of the story (that i made up). Hope that might setle the troubles about who named what, who used what and why and when, wanna coulda shoulda and stuff : ) We can always find a nice story to explain why things are as they are. Peace yaoi and yuri Lussh 18:09, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

who is rox ashrign?- Zesbeer 04:53, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Rox Ashreign - the charr who uses Galrath Slash. The above quote was (obviously) made as a joke by someone. -- Konig/talk 05:11, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

I invented that story at the time when people were wondering "why a charr is using galrath slash at that time?". So yeah, it's a joke, or rather fanfic ^^ Still good i believe. Lussh 15:22, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Edited your story for grammar. You're welcome. 67.182.24.195 18:54, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Hundred Blades

I've just done this quest on hard mode and Galrath didn't have Hundred Blades. ): What happened? ^We_Heart^Katamari 04:34, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the double edit, but It's possible I didn't get the "hard mode quest." I haven't completed prophecies on the character I was trying to cap Hundred Blades with. I still haven't completed the quest, but should I accept it anyway? Will I be able to do the hard mode one later on if I accept the quest reward? ^We_Heart^Katamari 04:37, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

It's confusing. They should have called it "Version 2.0" instead of HM version, b/c you can do the original quest in normal or hard mode. You are then required to accept the basic reward before you can take the HM version. In contrast to the basic, the HM version can only be done in HM (in NM, the foes don't spawn). 75.37.21.159 04:44, 23 September 2011 (UTC)