User:Greener/Sandbox/Animals and Beasts

Note, I'm only creating this because I can't find the paper I was working on earlier

'tis only a scratch pad.

General

• Infobox:
  • Affiliation may not always be possible. (Can lore used to satisfy this infobox slot if mechanics cannot be discovered?)
  • Type should fit mechanics as much as possible. Category:NPCs by type
    • Category:Creature types to hold the articles of each mechanic type
• Other tags
  • Mainly to satisfy organization by lore, aka Category:Species <-- should be renamed?
    • Category:Species to hold the lore articles as well as the lore-type subcategories.

Notes

• According to a wiki'er, according to devs, all creatures can have 1 or 0 type and affiliation each, none can have 2 or more.

Options

Greener's version (updated)

• Using "Typeless" as a temporary catch-all while we wait for further details. It's a more inclusive word than Animal.
• Using "beast" as a term for those affected by Monster Hunt
• Avoiding the use of Category:Animals

NPC	Type (mechanic)	Species (lore)	Affiliation
Black Moa	Charmable animal	Moa	wildlife?
Festive Moa	Typeless	Moa	wildlife/event
Moa Bird (collector)	Typeless	Moa	event
Kidnapped Reindeer	Typeless	Reindeer	wildlife/event
Tusked Howler	beast		wildlife
Ntouka Bird	beast		wildlife
Rampaging Ntouka	beast		wildlife
Cobalt Mokele	beast	Cobalt	wildlife
Skree Griffon	Harpy
Skree Griffin	Harpy
Skree Raider	Harpy
Harpy Mother (ranger)	Harpy
Blessed Griffon	Typeless	Griffon	wildlife?
Scourge Vaettir	Nightmare		wildlife?
Abyssal	Nightmare		Shadow army
Shadow Warrior	Nightmare		Shadow army
Charged Blackness	Nightmare		Undead army
Ravager	Nightmare		wildlife?
Necrid Horseman	Zombie		Undead
Shambling Horror	Minion
Enslaved Ettin	Ogre	Ettin	Stone Summit
Gypsie Ettin	Ogre	Ettin
Red Yeti	Ogre	Yeti
Forge Master	Ogre	Jotun
Essence of Turtle	Celestial
Celestial Rat	Celestial		event
Celestial Rat (summon)	Celestial
Avatar of Kormir	Avatar		appropriate god
Mad King's Guard		Candy Corn creature (?)
Aloe Seed	Plant	Sprout	wildlife
Pinesoul	Plant	Tree	wildlife
Murmuring Thornbrush	Plant	Bush	wildlife
Stormseed Jacaranda	Plant	Bush	wildlife
Dragon Moss	Plant	Bush	wildlife
Cave Ayahuasca	Plant	Bush	wildlife
Enchanted Brambles	Plant	Bush	wildlife
Uprooted Malice	Plant	Guardian	Urgoz
Kurzick Juggernaut	Plant	Juggernaut	Kurzick
Fungal Spore	Plant	Growth	wildlife
Parasitic Growth	Plant	Growth	wildlife
Nettle Seedling	Plant	Growth	wildlife
Blue Tongue Heket	Heket
Hylek Nahualli	Heket	(Hylek)	Hylek
Agari Nahualli	Heket	Hylek	Agari
Ophil Nahualli	Heket	Hylek	Ophil
Gokir Nahualli	Heket	Hylek	Gokir
Cryptwing Incubus	Incubus
NPC	TYPE	LORE	AFFILIATION
NPC	TYPE	LORE	AFFILIATION
Need further testing
Pain Hungry Gaki	Gaki/Typeless	Gaki?	wildlife?
Tar Behemoth	Typeless	Behemoth	wildlife?
Snow Wurm	Typeless	Worm/Wurm	wildlife?
Hopping Vampire	Typeless	Vampire?	Urgoz
Thought Stealer	Typeless	Vampire?	Urgoz

1. Ogre-type. Ettins, Yeti, Jotun = lore
2. Gaki. May be a type of their own. Seem like social creatures, so not wildlife
3. "Candy corn creature" may work as lore.
4. Typeless. We'll have to ensure that where this is used, an appropriate Species or at least affiliation is given so that creatures are not without some categorization.
   1. Curious: Does Edge of Extinction only work by checking type? If true, then any Typeless affected by it must have a type, no?
5. Plants are quite varied. Not sure if we need all of the currently used lore-separators
6. Heket. All froggies are type-Heket. All EotN are species-Hylek, with affiliation appropriate to tribe (how else could they drop Juicy Heket Legs and still attack each other from a programmers side?).
7. Incubi may share the same type as NPCs from other campaigns, but we would have no way to properly test.
8. I doubt minions are affiliated with the undead, per the known use of the undead affiliation. They definitely share a type with other minions.

Konig's comments

"(Can lore used to satisfy this infobox slot if mechanics cannot be discovered?)" I'd rather not but it is currently done. "Category:Species to hold the lore articles as well as the lore-type subcategories."As well as? It would seem silly to have both Wurm and Category:Wurms, for example, in Category:Species. Unless I'm misunderstanding. I'm thinking that it would be best to have it like Creature types, rather NPCs by type. Agreed. Could be their own, as could any other that needs testing. "Candy corn creature" is a tricky one... needs testing. My thoughts on them below. Not really lore though. Could "Typeless" be given a category, and in turn a parameter setting, too? Hmmm, if EoE in in the area of multiple typeless... I'm curious if they'd be harmed by the others' deaths, or be unaffected. I'd presume the later, personally. Charr in Prophecies should be typeless so they'd be the ones to test. I vote remove the separators for plants which are used as affiliations - they were added, like for the elementals, just to fill in the blanks. Concurred. Should we make a page for Hylek (and the other tribes), akin to how it's done for the Tengu and Centaur pages? I think Incubi may be the same as Drinker which we're using an unofficial term for. Think that Vampire may also be of this type. Minion's types may merely be typeless, but their affiliation would be undead and they'd have that undead-affected-by-holy passive skill. Konig's notes Figure out the difference, or lack of difference, between Beast and the non-charmable versions of charmable animals. If no difference, put "Beast" as NPCs' types. If difference, denote difference under type accordingly. Affiliations may affect or be affected by findings - e.g., charr in Ascalon are not by type (supposedly), but by affiliation. Species, should it be different than type, can easily be placed manually at the bottom instead of in infobox. These are pages which I'd like to test the type of. Some may be beast or typeless. Core Avatar - don't think this is a mechanical type, but it's at least in Category:Creature types; likely, imo, to be ghosts Prophecies Behemoth - may be beast? Worm - may be wurm? Enchanted armor - construct doesn't seem to be a mechanical term, from previous observations, so I'm thinking these may be typeless. I'm curious, have the jade constructs been tested with EoE to be the same/different than mursaat? Facet - may be ghost? Griffon - hmmmm, these may be their own - but I'd like to test against a beast. Factions Vampire - Questionable... Suspect same as Gaki, and Drinker Gaki - Questionable... Suspect same as Vampire, and Drinker Celestial - perhaps they could be ghosts? Drinker - Questionable... Suspect same as Gaki, and Vampire Wallow to be thorough, these are least suspecting. Eye of the North Skelk - beast? typeless? skelk? Enchanted weapon - hmmmmmm

Creature type, Affiliation, Species

Note: This is here to create a list and definitive definition for the three primary classifications of NPCs. Key:

• "Confirmed" - Outright stated to be correct by a dev or mechanics.
• "Unknown" - likely but not proven; will mostly contain unofficial terms
• "Iffy" - unlikely and questionable
• "Wrong" - self-explanatory

Creature type

See User_talk:Andrew_McLeod/Species#Family

The confirmed	The unknown	The iffy	The wrong
"Candy Corn creatures" (unknown name, confirmed uniqueness) "Null" (term used by Andrew McLeod to denote a no-family NPC) Animal ("All charmable animals belong to the same family"; "Yule Deer and Winter Moas are animals", but are not charmable - are the two the same or different?) Arachnid Beast (Officially called "great beasts" - also, by the sounds of what Andrew talks about, it doesn't contain anything from Prophecies or Factions, meaning that Rogue Bull is wrong, and that the Sickened animals were wrong when placed here.) Behemoths ("The Behemoths have their own family" - in relation to NF behemoths; "The Behemoth's in Nightfall do indeed use the same family as the ones in prophecies and in the Underworld.") Centaur Charr (post-Prophecies charr only - need to check new HM Only Titan quest charr if possible) Demon Devourer Dragon Dredge Dwarf Elemental Ghost (incorrectly lists some Phantoms as ghosts - "Smoke Phantoms have their own family") Giant Griffon Harpy Heket Human Incubus ("The Incubi are their own family") Insect Minotaur (includes "Berserkers" - "Berserking Minotaurs, Wendigos, etc. all belong to the Minotaur family.") Mummy Nightmare Ogre Phantoms ("Smoke Phantoms have their own family") Plant Skeleton Snowman Spirit Tengu Troll Zombie	Afflicted Asura Destroyer Dinosaur Dolyak Dryder Fleshreaver Forgotten Gargoyle Grawl Hydra Imp Jelly Kappa Kirin Krait Kraken Leviathan (species) (unofficial term) Mandragor Mantid Mursaat Naga Norn Rider (unofficial term) Scarab (we sure this is different from "Insect?") Seer Shiro'ken Skale Wallow Warden Worm (may be same as Wurm?) Wurm (may be same as Worm?)	Abomination (Unofficial term; may be zombie?) Aircraft (unofficial term) Avatar (unofficial term for mechanics (may be ghost?)) Celestial (unofficial term for mechanics (may be ghost?)) Drinker (unofficial term) Enchanted armor (unofficial term) Enchanted weapon (unofficial term) Envoy (questionable - Emily put Envoy for most of the articles, but Shiro as an Envoy is a Demon) Facet (unofficial term (may be ghost?)) Fish (unofficial term) Gaki (unofficial term) Golem (Asuran construct) (unofficial term in mechanics) Practice targets (unofficial term - I think this may be the same as "Aircraft" and other non-living allied NPCs (shrines in DotA Wintersday maps, for instance - are we sure Vanguard Helmet is a spirit?, I'm confused for some "non-living NPCs"...) Skelk (unofficial term) Stone guardian (unofficial term) Vampire (unofficial term) Vermin (unofficial term)	Minion (An affiliation, not type) Vanguard foes (An affiliation, not a type; should be fixed but might have missed some)

Affiliation

See User_talk:Andrew_McLeod/Species#Army

The confirmed	The unknown	The iffy	The wrong
Wildlifes: Ascalon wildlife Charr Homelands wildlife Crystal Desert wildlife Depths of Tyria wildlife Echovald Forest wildlife Far Shiverpeaks wildlife Istan wildlife Kaineng City wildlife Kourna wildlife Kryta wildlife Maguuma Jungle wildlife Presearing wildlife Ring of Fire Islands wildlife Realm of Torment wildlife (missing?) Shing Jea Island wildlife Shiverpeak Mountains wildlife Tarnished Coast wildlife The Desolation wildlife The Jade Sea wildlife Vabbi wildlife Elites Sorrow's Furnace army (Includes Grenth's Footprint foes? - "All of the creatures in the Sorrow's Furnace update belong to that army") The Underworld army The Fissure of Woe army Tomb of the Primeval Kings army (Confirmed to have its own army but uses UW foes as well (confirmed via regen in HM) - allied armies?) Slavers' Exile army Urgoz's army (Urgoz's Warren) Kanaxai's army (the Deep) Domain of Anguish army Other Ascalon Army Binding ritual spirit ("There is also a separate army for ranger and ritualist spirits." - incorrectly documented as "not specified") Charr Corsair Crimson Skull Nature ritual spirit ("There is also a separate army for ranger and ritualist spirits." - incorrectly documented as "not specified") Order of Whispers Order of the Sunspears Shining Blade Titan Undead White Mantle	Agari Am Fah Angchu Bandits Canthan Guard (if correct, needs its own page) Deldrimor (most likely correct, may also be same as generic allied army of Shiverpeak Mountains) Destroyer Ebon Vanguard Eternal (Wrong to a degree; For FoW, lore only - for others, unknown) Gokir Hylek Jade Brotherhood Kournan military (unofficial term) Kurzick Lionguard Luxon Margonite Ophil Outcast Peacekeepers (May be bandit?) Quetzal Sensali Shadow Army (Incorrect - some NPCs are of FoW army, others of DoA army, what's the third group (RoT regulars)?) Shiro's army (unofficial term) Torment creature Vabbian (unofficial term) Vabbian military (unofficial term) Xunlai Guild Zaishen Order	1,000 Daggers (questionable due to size) Ascalon Vanguard (Possibly part of Ascalon Army mechanically) Avicara (Questionable as "Losaru" isn't a mechanical affiliation based on what Andrew said) Brotherhood of the Dragon (questionable due to size) Caromi (Questionable as "Losaru" isn't a mechanical affiliation based on what Andrew said) Celestial Ministry (questionable due to size) Dejarin family (unlikely to be a mechanical affiliation - NPCs likely part of generic allied army of Kourna, excluding Koss) Fierce Warband (may not be an affiliation - NPCs could be of generic allied army of Charr Homelands) Flaming Scepter (may not be an affiliation?) Imperial Guard (may not be a mechanical affiliation?) Krytan Army (unofficial term) Nightmare Horde (non-existent in mechanics?) Obsidian Flames (unofficial term in mechanics - may not exist and NPCs are of generic allied Kaineng City army) Pink Day in LA (unofficial term; may be generic allied army for Kryta) Shadow Blades (unofficial term in mechanics - likely doesn't exist and NPCs are of another army (generic or Am Fah?)) Shauben (unofficial term in mechanics - likely doesn't exist and NPCs are of the allied generic army for Istan) Stone guardian (in one category, marked as type; in another, marked as affiliation - incorrectly categorized in one of them) The Oddbodies (unofficial term - likely non-existent and is of the allied generic army of the RoT)	Northern Shiverpeak Mountains wildlife (needs merging - "The creatures in the shiverpeaks use the same armies for the northern and southern regions. ") Southern Shiverpeak Mountains wildlife (needs merging - "The creatures in the shiverpeaks use the same armies for the northern and southern regions. ") Losaru (stated by Andrew that desert centaurs are of the generic army; non-existent in mechanics) Minion (currently incorrectly documented as creature type; "There is a Minion army for summoned necromancer minions.") Servants of Grenth (unofficial term; is the generic allied army of UW) Skeletal Army (Not an affiliation, all NPCs are part of the FoW army - should be deleted?)

Species

Lore classification of a w:species.

Separation	For	Length
Asura Centaur Charr Dredge Dwarf Forgotten Grawl Harpy Human Mursaat Naga Norn Seer Tengu Behemoth Demon	Devourer Dinosaur Dolyak Dragon Dryder Ettin Fish Giant Griffon Hydra Imp Insect Ooze Jotun Kraken Leviathan	Mantid Minotaur Plant Scarab Simian Skale Vermin Worm Wurm (same as worm?) Yeti Giganticus Lupicus Turtle Snow beast Wallow <charmable animals> Elder Dragon