User talk:Gares Redstorm/Archive2
Reconfirmation[edit]
Hey Gares. Due to large amounts of ridiculousness, I'm going to have to ask you to reconfirm. A handful of users feel that inactive sysops shouldn't be sysops anymore, and while the majority disagree, it only takes one to start a reconfirmation at this point by policy. If you want to go ahead and start the reconfirmation yourself, you can just archive the last one and put a new one in its place, or just give a nod and I can do that for you and you can fill in any sort of candidate statement you may want to make. If I don't hear from you within a week, I'll go ahead and start one anyway, since the policy says you have to be reconfirmed within 2 weeks or you lose sysop, and better a vote in absentia than no vote, right? Thanks. - Tanetris 18:13, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- FYI, your reconfirmation was successful. Congrats. - Tanetris 07:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Account confirmation[edit]
Could you confirm with the Gares Redstorm account that you are, indeed, User:Gares?--Fighterdoken 17:51, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
- Considering that he created the redirect, I don't really think there's a question. --Freedom Bound 17:56, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
- Freedom is correct. This account did create the redirect to Gares and if it helps, I just logged off User:Gares and started to do some cleanup.— Gares 18:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Greens[edit]
Hey, another green collector! Manifold 20:23, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- Good luck getting a response. This person is here very rarely. Drogo Boffin 20:27, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- Really? He just posted on my talkpage. Vili 点 20:28, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) Actually, he's been quite active lately. -- FreedomBound 20:29, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) Yeah. That's news to me. I've been back for a month or so. Anyways, yeah, I actually left the game back in 2007 one day before the patch where they finally fixed the third Drago bow to drop :P I figured once I finish GWEN and my HD titles, I'm gonna get back into it. *cough* There should be a title *cough* — Gares 20:37, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Just wanted to say[edit]
You seem pretty awesome. Glad to have you back. Misery 15:28, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks man. It's good to be back. Looks like everything is under good hands. — Gares 16:30, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm going to have to agree with Misery. Hi, you're from before my time, glad to finally get to know you. — Why 01:50, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
User merge[edit]
You might not be aware, but the bureaucrats have access to a new tool: User Merge. I think it was added while you were away. -- FreedomBound 19:31, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
- Neat little tool and thanks for the link. It might come in useful one day. History stays intact in this case though, so there is no further need for anything. — Gares 20:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you![edit]
"You've received some great advice from some excellent contributors. Looks like they are getting you all set up. Welcome to GWW. — Gares 18:53, 5 January 2010 (UTC)"
Im flattered ^^ -- Cyan 22:53, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
- Anytime =) — Gares 20:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Quick question[edit]
How come you blocked the Guild Wars Geek username instead of just getting Lythia to get a user merge? -- Lacky 07:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe Gares has been gone too long to know that we have User Merge installed now. Vili 点 07:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Look 2 topics up ^ -- Cyan 07:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- *Maybe Gares forgot
- After all, it has been reflexive practice for years to permaban alternate, mistake, etc. accounts if the user didn't want them anymore...I know that I wouldn't think first to do a user merge, especially if the account in question didn't have any history worth porting over anyway. Vili 点 08:00, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- You're probably right Cyan.
- That's also a possibility Vili. -- Lacky 09:22, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- I think because the contributions were not that important in this care, Gares just moved it and banned the old account because of possible personification. -- Cyan 09:33, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- I saw Gares moving stuff around, and it was only after he was done that I made the section above. So, everyone's kind of right. -- FreedomBound 11:28, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Vili is correct about permabanning accounts that will not be used, mistake, or socks. It's common practice. As far as the history is concerned, if you look at Lythia's user page history and Lythia's user talk page history, the history from the Guild Wars Geek account is still intact. If the history looks misleading because the majority of the edits are on Jan. 5, that's because Lythia didn't start posting until yesterday except for the creation of the Guild Wars Geek account on April 25th. — Gares 12:58, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- I disagree how it's common practice, actually. In my opinion, alternate accounts generally aren't inherently bad, but disruptive ones obviously are and those are the ones that should be blocked. I think some might agree. Quite a lot of people use alternate accounts to match their signatures, and some use accounts for testing features (myself included - I made a few to test the usermerge stuff a while back). Some have also had their accounts 'renamed' (i.e. merged into a new one), and all we've done with the old account is redirected it to the new account - see GWW:RUM for that. Also, some people might have different usernames on GW2W to GWW, but the alternate one isn't blocked. -- pling 13:06, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- I can understand your side of the issue. The permabanning of side accounts, mistakes, socks, etc. has been an off and on discussion for as long as I can remember, even on GuildWiki before we started on the implementation here. Some would state it's fine to do so, others will not. I completely agree with you that disruptive ones should always be blocked. With the case of the non-disruptive ones, it's always been a preventative action, nothing more. As for people having different usernames on GW2W and GWW, the two wikis are technically tied together, yet they are essentially separate wikis. Personally, I don't see an issue to having a different name/page for each one and under GWW:SIGN, it is allowed to have different user names and has instructions on how to accomplish this. — Gares 13:31, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- I disagree how it's common practice, actually. In my opinion, alternate accounts generally aren't inherently bad, but disruptive ones obviously are and those are the ones that should be blocked. I think some might agree. Quite a lot of people use alternate accounts to match their signatures, and some use accounts for testing features (myself included - I made a few to test the usermerge stuff a while back). Some have also had their accounts 'renamed' (i.e. merged into a new one), and all we've done with the old account is redirected it to the new account - see GWW:RUM for that. Also, some people might have different usernames on GW2W to GWW, but the alternate one isn't blocked. -- pling 13:06, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Vili is correct about permabanning accounts that will not be used, mistake, or socks. It's common practice. As far as the history is concerned, if you look at Lythia's user page history and Lythia's user talk page history, the history from the Guild Wars Geek account is still intact. If the history looks misleading because the majority of the edits are on Jan. 5, that's because Lythia didn't start posting until yesterday except for the creation of the Guild Wars Geek account on April 25th. — Gares 12:58, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- I saw Gares moving stuff around, and it was only after he was done that I made the section above. So, everyone's kind of right. -- FreedomBound 11:28, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- I think because the contributions were not that important in this care, Gares just moved it and banned the old account because of possible personification. -- Cyan 09:33, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- That's also a possibility Vili. -- Lacky 09:22, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Look 2 topics up ^ -- Cyan 07:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
FYI[edit]
After your refusal to listen to reason, I have taken this to the Arbitration committee. 192.251.226.206 22:50, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
- It is obviously your choice to create an ArbComm, but what reasons exactly did I refuse to listen to? — Gares 23:21, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
- Checkuser seems to suggest its Memebomb, who was a user that just vandalised alot of pages and then got banned. -- Salome 23:49, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
If you're[edit]
older than dirt, what's older than older than dirt? Because I seem to have earned a new title. -- FreedomBound 16:27, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
- Older than older than dirt is probably 30+. You have earned the Old Man title. — Gares 17:03, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
nomination[edit]
Guild Wars Wiki:Elections/2010-02 bureaucrat election/Gares Redstorm. -- pling 19:05, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up. — Gares 18:21, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
TahiriVeila[edit]
He just wanted me to inform you that he has e-mailed Pling twice and not got a response. --Frosty 22:04, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
- Looking into it. — Gares 23:30, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
A week? Srsly? O.o[edit]
That's a bit harsh for a joke that I started. →[ »Halogod (talk)« ]← 15:27, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- People should stop the racistic comments, and this is a good way to enforce some decency. If you think calling someone a nigger is funny, well, go outside some more. Koda Kumi 15:32, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Halogod was talking about Unendingfear's ban, but yes, that's why Chaos was banned. Unendingfear received his duration based on "hold her at gun/knife/chainsaw point". I bumped it up one from his past 3 day ban and is definitely not the type of material to be used jokingly. — Gares 15:36, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Koda, I live in Virginia, lots of black people here and I go out enough to see their reactions. Alot, for some reason, accept it around here. Other's will go ape shit. As for you Gares, I understand. :< →[ »Halogod (talk)« ]← 15:38, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Side note. We're both messed up, we joke about murder and shit all the time. →[ »Halogod (talk)« ]← 15:39, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- I live in NC and not sure about other areas, but the south can be tricky. Some shrug it off, others will get down your throat. In the past, I've gotten in a fight saying it to someone, but my black friends never minded me saying it with them. It's give or take, but ultimately it shouldn't be encouraged.
- My side note: Everyone's messed up (yeah, even me), but some things should be thought about before posting it on the wiki. — Gares 15:48, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- I live in the Netherlands, near Schiphol airport, and when I call a black man a nigger here, I get my ass kicked... Koda Kumi 15:50, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Omfg u sed the n word u racist! Dark Morphon 09:02, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
- You should probably work out then. -Auron 09:17, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
- I live in the Netherlands, near Schiphol airport, and when I call a black man a nigger here, I get my ass kicked... Koda Kumi 15:50, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Halogod was talking about Unendingfear's ban, but yes, that's why Chaos was banned. Unendingfear received his duration based on "hold her at gun/knife/chainsaw point". I bumped it up one from his past 3 day ban and is definitely not the type of material to be used jokingly. — Gares 15:36, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
No Personal Attacks[edit]
From what I can see you have take NPA completely out of context, Unending something or other was banned for this comment, if you actually read it properly you will see that he did not attack wyn in anyway, it was a simple joke, no harm was intended with the comment and it was like I said before, a simple joke. Ofcourse what was said is not the kind of material you want to see put on anyones talk page but a ban for a Personal Attack is unjust seeing as he did not actually attack anybody. It seems administrators are all too quick to come to the defense of other admins (or jusy wyn from what it seems...), even if what was said isn't in the slightest personal or really anything to do with her. I recommend you look back on the ban and really think, if that comment was about anybody else, would you have banned Unending, I doubt it, and I am sure you do deep down too.
pz --Frosty 15:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Whether it was a "personal attack" as described in the policy is debatable. Regardless, sysops are allowed to use their discretion when blocking. I too would've blocked Unendingfear for his remarks, even if they were about anybody else. — Why 16:05, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) It doesn't matter who it was. If it was a joke towards you, I would have done the same thing. I don't get these issues with Wyn that everyone has. I've never even had any dealings with her. But regarding your statement that he did not attack Wyn in any way, let me explain this to you. ""hold her at gun/knife/chainsaw point"". Holding Her in reference to Wyn followed by death threats is directed at her. Quoted directly from GWW:NPA, "some types of comments that are never acceptable.." "Threats of physical violence, particularly death threats." — Gares 16:07, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- You just took that completely out of context, "Hmmm, so you want me to break into wyn's house, hold her at gun/knife/chainsaw point," he never said he was going to, he never threatened he was going to. Anyone can take a quote out of context to make somebody look bad, for example, let me quote you "It doesn't matter", oh from that perspective you don't care...
It doesn't matter because it's clear nothing will change, I just thought I would point out either obvious bias or a lack of sense of humour, whatever it may be it has cost someone a week of editing this wiki for a joke. --Frosty 16:13, 9 February 2010 (UTC) - I'm sure any reasonable adult would believe that some kid on a video game wiki who's jokingly saying that he's gonna hold someone at chainsaw point to steal her wiki account to write some witty comment is making death threats. -Cursed Angel 16:40, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Imo this entire thing falls under "don't be a dick". – Emmett 16:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- A statement that also may concern Gares, depending on your point of view.
- On an unrelated point, I'd just like to mention that I'm on your side cuddly bear. At least, I wish day and night to be. Let me hug you and keep the meanies away. I'm very warm, comfortable, and secure (though the last bit is open to negotiation, if you feel like it). Thanks! NuVII 17:37, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- See what Emmett said, that would have been a much more appropriate banning reason if you felt the urge to ban. --Frosty 18:21, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- I've seen this argument before. Reasons are almost always debatable and arguments for or against them can be easily made. It was a joke, but that type of joke doesn't belong on this wiki, period. My judgment is always free to be discussed upon, but if you feel that the block itself is unfair, you may make an appeal. — Gares 18:36, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Imo this entire thing falls under "don't be a dick". – Emmett 16:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- You just took that completely out of context, "Hmmm, so you want me to break into wyn's house, hold her at gun/knife/chainsaw point," he never said he was going to, he never threatened he was going to. Anyone can take a quote out of context to make somebody look bad, for example, let me quote you "It doesn't matter", oh from that perspective you don't care...
- (Edit conflict) It doesn't matter who it was. If it was a joke towards you, I would have done the same thing. I don't get these issues with Wyn that everyone has. I've never even had any dealings with her. But regarding your statement that he did not attack Wyn in any way, let me explain this to you. ""hold her at gun/knife/chainsaw point"". Holding Her in reference to Wyn followed by death threats is directed at her. Quoted directly from GWW:NPA, "some types of comments that are never acceptable.." "Threats of physical violence, particularly death threats." — Gares 16:07, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
B&[edit]
eh 200.85.152.198 01:52, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Final Fantasy and Other Randomness[edit]
Are you going to get the new Final Fantasy? I haven't heard much about it lately, since I've been working so much lately and out of the gaming loop. Also, if you're older than dirt at 28, what does that make me? Karate Jesus 19:26, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- Somewhat younger than dirt or roughly the same age? BTW, see 6 topics up. -- FreedomBound 19:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well, at least we're not grandparents. Karate Jesus 19:50, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- It's pretty much downhill from 25. You'll be making your way to the retirement village for gamers soon, but at least you get that sweet retirement check.
- And with FF13...I'll have it the day it comes out. Guess I have to buy a XBox360 or PS3 too while I'm at it. It's gotten some good ratings and my Odin and Bahamut will be on the Eidolon list. If what they say is true, the leveling system is going to be like FF10 and the battle system looks pretty original. — Gares 20:07, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- I was just looking at the Eidolon system and it looks pretty badass. Too bad I don't have the extra cash to pre-order it. I'll just have to wait for some used ones start to trickle in to Gamestop. Karate Jesus 20:25, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- I'm trading a bunch of old games so I can afford it. It definitely looks worth it.--♥neshot 20:29, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- My wonderful wife got me a PS3 for Christmas, but forgot that it needed games. So, unfortunately, I already traded my PSP and all my PSP games for several PS3 games. I guess I could trade some of the PS3 games back, but that seems counter-productive. I'm supposed to get a raise to around 80k (total for all my jobs) by the end of May, so if my wife can finish her grad school, we'll finally have money. Karate Jesus 20:34, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- You actually bought PSP games? elix Omni 20:35, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know what I was thinking either. I thought the PSP would get better support. I was wrong. Karate Jesus 20:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- I forgot about my PSP games. Probably because it was shit. Who knows?--♥neshot 20:41, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- I'm the dummy that told my fiance to not get me a PS3 for Christmas because there wasn't anything I'd play till FF13 and didn't want it to collect dust. She gets spontaneous without saying anything and buys me a new Ipod instead and ironically, it's collecting dust. — Gares 20:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- I bought the PSP at launch and sold it back. I bought it again when FFT was rereleased on it, played through that and Half-Minute Hero, and sold it back. I wish they'd just make the downloadable games playable on the PS3 too so I wouldn't be tempted again. —Tanaric 21:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- My point is that PSP is the easiest console to CFW and pirate for. You don't even need a special card like with DS. elix Omni 21:39, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- My softmodded Wii says otherwise, though I don't really pirate on it. I just like the speed and convenience of loading games from the hard drive. —Tanaric 22:57, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- PSPs have been on custom firmware since the Wii was just a concept sketch. elix Omni 22:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, but they're a giant pain in the ass to crack unless you have a really old firmware version. Wii is just "insert SD card, hit go!". —Tanaric 00:15, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
- Mine was pretty easy to crack after I removed the rather large dust layer from the screen. Thanks! NuVII 14:12, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, but they're a giant pain in the ass to crack unless you have a really old firmware version. Wii is just "insert SD card, hit go!". —Tanaric 00:15, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
- PSPs have been on custom firmware since the Wii was just a concept sketch. elix Omni 22:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- My softmodded Wii says otherwise, though I don't really pirate on it. I just like the speed and convenience of loading games from the hard drive. —Tanaric 22:57, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- My point is that PSP is the easiest console to CFW and pirate for. You don't even need a special card like with DS. elix Omni 21:39, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- I bought the PSP at launch and sold it back. I bought it again when FFT was rereleased on it, played through that and Half-Minute Hero, and sold it back. I wish they'd just make the downloadable games playable on the PS3 too so I wouldn't be tempted again. —Tanaric 21:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- I'm the dummy that told my fiance to not get me a PS3 for Christmas because there wasn't anything I'd play till FF13 and didn't want it to collect dust. She gets spontaneous without saying anything and buys me a new Ipod instead and ironically, it's collecting dust. — Gares 20:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- I forgot about my PSP games. Probably because it was shit. Who knows?--♥neshot 20:41, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know what I was thinking either. I thought the PSP would get better support. I was wrong. Karate Jesus 20:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- You actually bought PSP games? elix Omni 20:35, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- My wonderful wife got me a PS3 for Christmas, but forgot that it needed games. So, unfortunately, I already traded my PSP and all my PSP games for several PS3 games. I guess I could trade some of the PS3 games back, but that seems counter-productive. I'm supposed to get a raise to around 80k (total for all my jobs) by the end of May, so if my wife can finish her grad school, we'll finally have money. Karate Jesus 20:34, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- I'm trading a bunch of old games so I can afford it. It definitely looks worth it.--♥neshot 20:29, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- I was just looking at the Eidolon system and it looks pretty badass. Too bad I don't have the extra cash to pre-order it. I'll just have to wait for some used ones start to trickle in to Gamestop. Karate Jesus 20:25, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well, at least we're not grandparents. Karate Jesus 19:50, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
While I hate Briar[edit]
as a word of fairness, he did archive rather than remove comments. [1] Pika Fan 18:43, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- ^--TahiriVeila 18:45, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't see the quick archives. I'll rectify it. — Gares 18:49, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Quick archives are still a bad thing and against policy. Not all posts he does this too are troll posts and thus shouldnt be removed. Also TahiriVeila needs to be asked to refrain from trolling/posting on Briar's talk page since Briar cannot handle it without acting like a child. Drogo Boffin 19:02, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Pling got to Tahiri before I had a chance to. About the quick archiving, I've only seen these recent ones. If I see or am made aware of ones that warrant action, I'll deal with it at that time. — Gares 19:05, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Quick archives are still a bad thing and against policy. Not all posts he does this too are troll posts and thus shouldnt be removed. Also TahiriVeila needs to be asked to refrain from trolling/posting on Briar's talk page since Briar cannot handle it without acting like a child. Drogo Boffin 19:02, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't see the quick archives. I'll rectify it. — Gares 18:49, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Next time you block me might I suggest you pay a wee bit more attention to RC? Oh, and next time you unblock me, might i suggest you do the same for the IP i was using? I find it distasteful to have to bring these problems to Pling when they shouldn't have been problems in the first place. --Briar Flame Me 20:28, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- I suggest you calm down. I was working hastily and admitted my mistake. Here's my advice. Walk away from this issue and chill out. — Gares 20:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Briar[edit]
he needs to calm down. And a sysop needs to step in. Drogo Boffin 20:30, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Read. The. Effing. Notice. --Briar Flame Me 20:34, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Briar angry. --92.10.117.207 20:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Observant, Arent you? --Briar Flame Me 20:39, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- The notice does not matter. You cannot simply remove or quick archive everything from a certain user. You cannot claim that no matter what he says it is trolling/baiting you. You are simply acting like a child and need to take a break from this and probably all wikis. Your actions out of control. You are taking this way overboard. Drogo Boffin 20:45, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- [2] Actually I can. --Briar Flame Me 20:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- You prove nothing by posting that. That was him being warned for trolling/baiting you. He can still post as long as he is not trolling/baiting. And YOU cannot just remove/quick archive and say that he was trolling/baiting just because you simply dislike him. Eventualy Gares or another sysop will step in and if you keep this up you will get blocked again. Drogo Boffin 20:53, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Drogo is right. Like I told him one topic up, if Tahiri isn't baiting/trolling you and you remove a post he has made, I will ban you from now on. It's that simple. Just because you do not like someone doesn't give you any justification to disregard policy. — Gares 20:57, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Yes. I can. No, Drogo isn't. To both your statements. He knows full well that I have no interest in talking to him and that his trying to start a conversation with me will only result in Drama. So rather than start drama, I simply remove the comments. I know I'll rage. He knows I'll rage. So rather than allow the drama to even start in the first place I simply remove the temptation. I fail to see how this is a bad thing. If you truely prefer, next time he tries to start shit with me, Ill simply participate in the drama. So you can unjustly ban me for that as well. --Briar Flame Me 20:59, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Might I suggest that you distance yourself from Briar, drogo? This is the second time you've sought to "deal with him", I fear the third time won't be this cordial. Thanks! NuVII 21:00, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Drogo is right. Like I told him one topic up, if Tahiri isn't baiting/trolling you and you remove a post he has made, I will ban you from now on. It's that simple. Just because you do not like someone doesn't give you any justification to disregard policy. — Gares 20:57, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- You prove nothing by posting that. That was him being warned for trolling/baiting you. He can still post as long as he is not trolling/baiting. And YOU cannot just remove/quick archive and say that he was trolling/baiting just because you simply dislike him. Eventualy Gares or another sysop will step in and if you keep this up you will get blocked again. Drogo Boffin 20:53, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- [2] Actually I can. --Briar Flame Me 20:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- The notice does not matter. You cannot simply remove or quick archive everything from a certain user. You cannot claim that no matter what he says it is trolling/baiting you. You are simply acting like a child and need to take a break from this and probably all wikis. Your actions out of control. You are taking this way overboard. Drogo Boffin 20:45, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Observant, Arent you? --Briar Flame Me 20:39, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Briar angry. --92.10.117.207 20:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
(Reset indent) You could just ignore it and try to be rational. Drogo Boffin 21:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- I am simply trying to give sound advice. I do not want to see a person get banned when it can be avoided by just following policy. Drogo Boffin 21:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Or the guy could grow the hell up and stop trying to start fights with me. But i guess thats just to much to ask. Also, Seeing as Breaching NPA. I'm fairly certain that calling me childish is a breach. Which is also quite mature of you as well. The hypocrisy runs rampant. --Briar Flame Me 21:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Are you fucking joking? You are just as at fault for starting faults as Jake is. You ARE being childish, don't complain if someone points it out to you. Try to act slightly more maturely and with a bit more rationale, you might not get trolled so much and cause so much drama. --92.10.117.207 21:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- No you fail to understand policy again. I said you are "acting", "being" childish. I didnt call you a child. I commented on your actions which is fine. Plese just take a break and calm down. Drogo Boffin 21:14, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Are you fucking joking? You are just as at fault for starting faults as Jake is. You ARE being childish, don't complain if someone points it out to you. Try to act slightly more maturely and with a bit more rationale, you might not get trolled so much and cause so much drama. --92.10.117.207 21:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Or the guy could grow the hell up and stop trying to start fights with me. But i guess thats just to much to ask. Also, Seeing as Breaching NPA. I'm fairly certain that calling me childish is a breach. Which is also quite mature of you as well. The hypocrisy runs rampant. --Briar Flame Me 21:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Though i don't know you at all[edit]
But if community likes you, i like you. Congratulations for your bureaucrat term ^^ - J.P.Talk 01:09, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
- Congrats! --Lania Elderfire 02:48, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Just a Question[edit]
If one of my characters has a certain name, and everyone knows me ingame by that name, would it be accepted to make a page/redirect to my userpage with that char name? please react at my talk. Ragnearoa (ingame: Ragnarok Warlord) Maybe I should sign my comments...
- Thanks for reacting. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Ragnearoa (talk).
"# (Deletion log); 15:50 . . Gares Redstorm (Talk | contribs) deleted "File:Cute McMonkey.png" (R2: Unnecessary redirect)"[edit]
Scared me like hell :> ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 12:54, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
- Don't be scared. I wouldn't delete the image. Cute monkeys are cute. — Gares 12:56, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Did you mean:[edit]
"Farming is not a must"? Misery 17:16, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah. Those tips were centered around the basis that he wants fast cash and a ton of it. I would imagine 500k or so isn't hard to get without farming. — Gares 17:23, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm only asking, because your meaning was clear, but you said "Farming is a must". Misery 17:26, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, now even stupid people like me can understand it ^________^ Misery 17:28, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- Not stupid, just special. <3 And it's actually easier with hard mode now to make money. When I came back, I tried vanquishing in HM and I'm sure I made around 300k just from remembering I had to move funds from my main account to another. — Gares 17:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, now even stupid people like me can understand it ^________^ Misery 17:28, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm only asking, because your meaning was clear, but you said "Farming is a must". Misery 17:26, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Kaisha[edit]
I didn't see 2 reverts by Kaisha. Did you consider [3] to be the first revert? --JonTheMon 20:25, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Jon's right. - Reanimated X 20:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- It's ok, Ariyen being banned is always a good thing. Pika Fan 20:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Bad troll and that's not true. Looking back over it again, it was just Mini Me. Kaisha would have been in violation if she did it one more time. — Gares 20:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Gares, can you restore my sandbox and everything within that on Ariyen, so I can move it to Kaisha? I don't want to have to retype all of that again. Thank you. Kaisha 20:53, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Bad troll and that's not true. Looking back over it again, it was just Mini Me. Kaisha would have been in violation if she did it one more time. — Gares 20:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- It's ok, Ariyen being banned is always a good thing. Pika Fan 20:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
This is kinda ridiculous[edit]
You've given me tons of shit for over-reacting and lashing out and stuff like that so now I'm trying to do the same for you. You should relax when All I did was ask you be a bit more careful with the sysop tools and check twice before you block someone. This is twice now that you've blocked someone without due causality (which btw is the meaning of the word Unjustly) and have had to rectify the situation. I didn't start an RfA or anything like that because theres no need to. And there wont be a need. If you simply listen to some advice given you and be a bit more careful with the sysop tools. Theres no need for hostility here. --71.193.48.146 23:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hostility is not in my nature on this wiki. It is ridiculous and futile when people get upset over a game or with strangers on the internet. It solves nothing. If you are referring to what I said on PvX, that was not hostility, that was the truth. You post under an IP, possibly assuming that no one would know who you are. It's been done before and people will continue to do it for one reason or another. If I were to be offended or get mad, believe me that my words do change very drastically. But as I said before, I find it futile and funny to anyone that gets mad in this type of venue, present company included. — Gares 23:50, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Really, Briar, it was sorta a rookie mistake, but there was enough back-and-forth that it looked like a 1RR vio. It happens. And imo he wasn't over-reacting, just dealing with it as he saw it. --JonTheMon 23:55, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) In case you didn't read, I can't log in. Still under Rainiths bullshit block for saying the word gay to a gay person. So, Meh. No I wasn't talking about on my userpage on PvX. PvX is for circle-jerkin. Thats about it. I was referring to you getting all up in arms when I suggested that perhaps you should excersize a bit more caution when enacting blocks as this is the second time you have unjustly blocked someone. --71.193.48.146 23:55, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- That wasn't up in arms, however, if Jon wasn't around, I would block you right now for admitting that you are circumventing a block placed on you. However, I am bound by policy not to. — Gares 23:58, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) In case you didn't read, I can't log in. Still under Rainiths bullshit block for saying the word gay to a gay person. So, Meh. No I wasn't talking about on my userpage on PvX. PvX is for circle-jerkin. Thats about it. I was referring to you getting all up in arms when I suggested that perhaps you should excersize a bit more caution when enacting blocks as this is the second time you have unjustly blocked someone. --71.193.48.146 23:55, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Really, Briar, it was sorta a rookie mistake, but there was enough back-and-forth that it looked like a 1RR vio. It happens. And imo he wasn't over-reacting, just dealing with it as he saw it. --JonTheMon 23:55, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I find it quite cool that people aren't allowed to proxy to discuss their blocks. ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 10:36, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, welcome to civilized wikis. That's sort of the norm. -Auron 11:12, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- He wasn't exactly discussing his block, either. -- FreedomBound 12:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- In a way, he was actually. When he said twice, the first was him. I did jump the gun with him, but looking back, it was more like taking the initiative as he was banned shortly after by Rainith. :P
- Still trying to figure out why someone would circumvent a block in order to state the obvious when it's only going to prolong their original ban. *shrugs* — Gares 12:47, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- Email this user is very prominent and all bureaucrats should have their emails listed. There are plenty of ways to discuss a ban without evading it. That reminds me... I think I need to repost my email on the bureaucrat page... Misery 13:15, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Feedback Deletions[edit]
Hey Gares, quick comment. I just glanced at the recent changes, and saw some feedbacks being deleted. While I agree that outdated things should go, three days seems far too short of a time for the owner to have responded in. If this decision was made elsewhere, then all the power to you; I just can't imagine being given that little of time to respond if it were my creation. G R E E N E R 19:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Those weren't necessarily just outdated, I think they were malformed (user didn't have a feedback user page, or didn't use the templates properly). -- FreedomBound 19:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, I have faith that he has good reasons, I just worried that 3 days to fix what were honest suggestions wasn't the issue. G R E E N E R 19:07, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- If they're the ones I tagged, I waited over a month after the user was first warned to tag them for deletion. -- FreedomBound 19:08, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- I just put the Uncontested after 3 days because I was too lazy to put the actual length of time they were up for deletion which was 10 days for each one. — Gares 19:15, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- I also always contact the user via a message on their talk page regarding necessary corrections to feedback pages long before tagging them for deletion. Also, if a suggestion is deleted, and the owner then comes back wanting to fix it, it can be restored with a simple request on the Admin Noticeboard. -- Wyn talk 19:16, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- It's a set of comments like these that prove to me this wiki still works ; ) G R E E N E R 18:48, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
- I also always contact the user via a message on their talk page regarding necessary corrections to feedback pages long before tagging them for deletion. Also, if a suggestion is deleted, and the owner then comes back wanting to fix it, it can be restored with a simple request on the Admin Noticeboard. -- Wyn talk 19:16, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- I just put the Uncontested after 3 days because I was too lazy to put the actual length of time they were up for deletion which was 10 days for each one. — Gares 19:15, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- If they're the ones I tagged, I waited over a month after the user was first warned to tag them for deletion. -- FreedomBound 19:08, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, I have faith that he has good reasons, I just worried that 3 days to fix what were honest suggestions wasn't the issue. G R E E N E R 19:07, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
The Archives[edit]
Thank you for that. - Reanimated X 19:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Anytime. — Gares 19:16, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, but....[edit]
I appreciate the thought, but I have no business being an admin. -- FreedomBound 19:54, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Lol.[edit]
"don't be a jackass and it's perma, not prema"
Love you. :3 --Neil2250 , Render Lord 18:41, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Hello, Gares Redstorm.[edit]
I would like to take this moment to notify all 3 of the bureaucrats that I want an official appeal from the extremely high level of harassment that I have received these last few days. I request, rather, I BEG for an official review from you three, whom are to be considered the "high-end" support of technical problems such as this, to please help me get rid of this witch hunt once and for all.
Here are some key points of interest that can help you get a better idea of the level of harassment that I have directly and indirectly received and have had to endure because of other people's ignorance:
My name has been severely tarnished for reasons that I still can't seem to comprehend. Everything is "Magikarp is Lena", "Magikarp is the IP, whom is Lena" and the user Lemming claiming to have talked to me in-game under the name "Puerto Rican Chick" that he posted a link to on his talk page (I have never had any contact with anyone on this wiki in-game. I do not feel comfortable giving out my IGN to random people who I do not know), ect ect.
I Have never done anything wrong on the Guild Wars Wikipedia. I follow each and every policy to the T. I revert vandalism. I upload extremely high quality images. I keep articles up to date and most importantly, I do any and everything possible to make sure that the Wiki thrives as an encyclopedia.
Most Sincerely,
Sarrah Dash --174.49.120.131 01:08, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
guides[edit]
So why are you reverting all my other edits, beside the secondary prof stuff? I know why Jon is doing it, but I don't expect that from you. Backsword 15:09, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- Because I don't have the time to go behind ppl atm to change around their edits to make sure they are in accordance to the proposal's guidelines. If you corrected any bad advice or added new advice, please re-add it, but do not change the syntax without consensus because you think it looks better one way. — Gares 15:12, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- That would be a violation of 1RR since I already used mine to revert Jon. Backsword 15:21, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- Edits like [this] where the syntax of the article is compromised from the formatting guideline, there is no need to correct them. Looks like just a copy and paste into different sections with a little re-wording.
- Yes, you cannot revert what Jon has done, but you can rework the article in a different way than before or in a new section and it would not count, since you are, by definition, not actually reverting Jon. See GWW:1RR What is a revert?. However, someone could revert that as well. — Gares 15:37, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- I have to disagree with you there. If I put it back in with some cosmetic changes, it would esentially be a revert, even if not technically undoing. That's how I've always understood the agreement. Backsword 16:56, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- "changing, rewording, rearranging, or consolidating information that is not a change to a previous version or adding something new to the page...Reverting two separate sections of a page once each does count as different reverts." Basically, you cannot edit back in the exact wording in the same sections you used before the revert. But as this policy is often misconstrued, there is no guarantee that an admin might see it slightly different and act upon it. — Gares 17:22, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) You can see it as a sort of gentlemen's agreement. An edit war is still an edit war even when the reverts and edits aren't exactly the same. I suggest that, when you're out of regular reverts, you start discussing the edits. The policy was never meant to force people to subtly alter their edits, it was meant to prevent edit wars. — Why 17:27, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- This is true. Discussion is always the best option when it comes down to it. Saves hassle and any discretionary administrative actions from any constant spam revert/revert/edit/revert...you get the drift. — Gares 17:42, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- I have to disagree with you there. If I put it back in with some cosmetic changes, it would esentially be a revert, even if not technically undoing. That's how I've always understood the agreement. Backsword 16:56, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- That would be a violation of 1RR since I already used mine to revert Jon. Backsword 15:21, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Charr name[edit]
Actually... you're quite right. A F K When Needed 15:56, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yep. Was going to be a hippie Sylvari with my fiance, but my name sounds so much better as a Charr. And Charr have always just looked badass. — Gares 00:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- tbh not sure about "Gares", but "Redstorm" is an Ele (or blood Necro? meh) boss waiting to happen A F K When Needed 14:16, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Don't want the name used for a boss. Used this name for 12 years. It's a registered trademark :P — Gares 14:35, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe we could get ANet to give you a "brother" in the game with the same last name. ;) --Rainith 16:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sareg Bloodstorm? :D --Neil2250 , Portal Jumper 16:17, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- ƃɐɹǝs redstorm tbh A F K When Needed 21:35, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
- Charr names for everyone! Neil = Crawl the Scarred (The Scarecrow), Rainith = Rayne Frostbane (Rainith Frostir), AFK When Needed = Embagon Fleshripper (Para Noid Imba Gon). — Gares 23:37, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- Do you take requests? -- FreedomBound 23:44, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sure. I kinda like this game. Vast the Doombringer (Freedom Bound) — Gares 00:06, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- This is fun. What do you make of me? — Why 22:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- My name would be great for a charr Yay Killing Charr talk 23:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) 'Why the Are We Fighting?' --Riddle 23:03, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yai the Questioning would be good for u why Yay Killing Charr talk 23:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- This is fun. What do you make of me? — Why 22:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sure. I kinda like this game. Vast the Doombringer (Freedom Bound) — Gares 00:06, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Do you take requests? -- FreedomBound 23:44, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- Charr names for everyone! Neil = Crawl the Scarred (The Scarecrow), Rainith = Rayne Frostbane (Rainith Frostir), AFK When Needed = Embagon Fleshripper (Para Noid Imba Gon). — Gares 23:37, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- ƃɐɹǝs redstorm tbh A F K When Needed 21:35, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sareg Bloodstorm? :D --Neil2250 , Portal Jumper 16:17, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe we could get ANet to give you a "brother" in the game with the same last name. ;) --Rainith 16:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Don't want the name used for a boss. Used this name for 12 years. It's a registered trademark :P — Gares 14:35, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- tbh not sure about "Gares", but "Redstorm" is an Ele (or blood Necro? meh) boss waiting to happen A F K When Needed 14:16, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi[edit]
Please stop blocking me and my socks. Hello! My name is: Eavil's Sock 21:01, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks[edit]
I can go do something else than watch that guys moves :) --Manassas 11:16, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Anytime. :) — Gares 11:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Names[edit]
We seem to play the same games. I have a Rydia and a Rosa as well.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 20:10, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- I hope that means we have good taste. — Gares 20:21, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- *Forehead slap* Oh yeah...I'm actually on the Final Fantasy Wiki right now too :P — Gares 20:27, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- I regret not making a Celes.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 21:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Next mmo I play, I have to scramble to make a Cecil. Found this. You might like it. — Gares 21:26, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- I lol'd." # ...You use "Spoony Bard" as an insult on a regular basis. #...You think Paladin Cecil looks better than Dark Knight Cecil." --*Yasmin Parvaneh* 23:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- "You actually have a bumper sticker on your car that reads, "My other ride is a Chocobo"" I actually would put that on my car. "You bought a console only so you could play the Final Fantasy for it" Only bought the PS when FFVII came out (3 years after PS was released) and only game I have for my PS3 is FFXIII. — Gares 13:03, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- Found it. $5.00 for a Chocobo bumper sticker....I'm so bored at work. :P — Gares 15:55, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- I lol'd." # ...You use "Spoony Bard" as an insult on a regular basis. #...You think Paladin Cecil looks better than Dark Knight Cecil." --*Yasmin Parvaneh* 23:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Next mmo I play, I have to scramble to make a Cecil. Found this. You might like it. — Gares 21:26, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- I regret not making a Celes.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 21:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Deletion without discussion[edit]
Should never be done when the deletion tag was put on the other image, and there was one comment disagreeing with the deletion tag (and suggesting the other image for deletion). Just to be clear, I'm referring to this and this. While I'm glad you take the initiative with cleaning out the delete candidate category, if there is a discussion going, you should let it go through before deleting something. -- Konig/talk 16:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I have been at this for 5 years now. If you really feel that a discussion is really necessary, I can restore the deleted image, you can have your discussion, or we can wait out the three days before it is deleted again. — Gares 16:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- Pages shouldn't be deleted when there is no consensus agreeing with the deletion, it isn't just 'if it isn't removed by 3 days' - there is no consensus at the moment so as things stand, there shouldn't be a "wait out the three days before it is deleted again." -- Konig/talk 20:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- First, chill, realize that I restored the image you feel is better suited, and that the image up for discussion is more focused and more educational to the reader. The image can stand by itself without a description. If you believe the first one has merit to stay on the page, argue for it. But there are no stalemates in deletion discussions. I always delete three days after the last post in a discussion. Allows anyone involved to say their peace and stay abreast of any changes. Did not feel it was necessary this time, because it looked rather obvious. Hope that helps. — Gares 20:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- I am chill, but still there was no "three days" since the deletion tag was put up - not even one - and at the wrong one at that (that is, deleting the one not tagged). There is no "not necessary" in any case - despite what one person may think as no two people think the same. And "stand by itself without a description" is a poor excuse - a vast majority, if not every image, needs a description - most, fortunately, are done via the article's title (such as the images put in the template on location/object/NPC/skill pages). Having two lines of text in a description compared to having a choppy, smeared, and larger image is not always better. Especially when one wants quality. (And just for the record, I'm saying this not because I'm annoyed - I was only annoyed in the first post - but because I have the tendency to clarify my views due to far too many people in my life having misunderstood what I meant) -- Konig/talk 21:30, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think you still quite comprehend the reasoning behind my actions, and I honestly don't feel like trying to explain it any longer. If you wish to continue to moan about deleting material, here is some more ammunition. A deletion tag was not placed on Chocta The Warrior before I deleted it this afternoon. There have been countless times over the years admins have performed borderline/discretionary deletions. If you feel so strongly regarding this issue, please use your energy to go through the logs, document any suspicious findings, and give your "advice" to other admins as well. Thanks — Gares 02:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
- ...It isn't that I don't comprehend your reasoning, just that I disagree. That is, with that particular one. And there is a huge difference between deleting something already being discussed about the deletion and deleting something that is obviously not meant for the mainspace (as I didn't see the content, I don't know if it was something meant for the userspace or just vandalism - which in either case is also a vast difference to the image situation). -- Konig/talk 03:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
- A redundant/superceded image is a valid speedy deletion reason. These do not need a 3 day waiting period, and in fact it's common for admins to delete them directly without tagging them if an admin is first to notice them. It's not even uncommon for an admin to delete the opposite of a pair of redundant images than the one tagged, e.g. if the untagged one has a better resolution, or has a more appropriate name, etc. If you disagree with a speedy deletion, you should ask to have it restored and discuss it, which you have, and Gares has obliged, and that discussion is proceeding. So what exactly is the problem? - Tanetris 03:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
- ...It isn't that I don't comprehend your reasoning, just that I disagree. That is, with that particular one. And there is a huge difference between deleting something already being discussed about the deletion and deleting something that is obviously not meant for the mainspace (as I didn't see the content, I don't know if it was something meant for the userspace or just vandalism - which in either case is also a vast difference to the image situation). -- Konig/talk 03:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think you still quite comprehend the reasoning behind my actions, and I honestly don't feel like trying to explain it any longer. If you wish to continue to moan about deleting material, here is some more ammunition. A deletion tag was not placed on Chocta The Warrior before I deleted it this afternoon. There have been countless times over the years admins have performed borderline/discretionary deletions. If you feel so strongly regarding this issue, please use your energy to go through the logs, document any suspicious findings, and give your "advice" to other admins as well. Thanks — Gares 02:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
- I am chill, but still there was no "three days" since the deletion tag was put up - not even one - and at the wrong one at that (that is, deleting the one not tagged). There is no "not necessary" in any case - despite what one person may think as no two people think the same. And "stand by itself without a description" is a poor excuse - a vast majority, if not every image, needs a description - most, fortunately, are done via the article's title (such as the images put in the template on location/object/NPC/skill pages). Having two lines of text in a description compared to having a choppy, smeared, and larger image is not always better. Especially when one wants quality. (And just for the record, I'm saying this not because I'm annoyed - I was only annoyed in the first post - but because I have the tendency to clarify my views due to far too many people in my life having misunderstood what I meant) -- Konig/talk 21:30, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- First, chill, realize that I restored the image you feel is better suited, and that the image up for discussion is more focused and more educational to the reader. The image can stand by itself without a description. If you believe the first one has merit to stay on the page, argue for it. But there are no stalemates in deletion discussions. I always delete three days after the last post in a discussion. Allows anyone involved to say their peace and stay abreast of any changes. Did not feel it was necessary this time, because it looked rather obvious. Hope that helps. — Gares 20:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- Pages shouldn't be deleted when there is no consensus agreeing with the deletion, it isn't just 'if it isn't removed by 3 days' - there is no consensus at the moment so as things stand, there shouldn't be a "wait out the three days before it is deleted again." -- Konig/talk 20:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you[edit]
Thank you for taking the time to delete my unhappy suggestion. — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 04:16, 23 June 2010 (UTC)