Talk:Befriending the Kurzicks

Bug with Quest Acquisition

If you already have the 10k Kurzick Faction when you speak to Count zu Heltzer he will not offer you this quest, but will instead offer you The Defenders of the Forest(tDotF), any character that speaks to Count zu Heltzer while your account has 10k faction will be unable to take this quest. If you reduce your faction below 10k you will not be able to take either Befriending the Kurzicks or tDotF, if you have taken tDotF and abandoned it you will be able to take it again even if your faction is below 10k. This should not have much impact on the game, but you will miss out on the 10kXP (useful for levelling up Heroes) and the 700g. --Heurist 11:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Common Kurzick Faction Quests

I was trying to make a list of convenient quests to take around House zu Heltzer in order to achieve the 10,000 faction and came up with the following table.

Quest	Faction	Experience	Gold	Given by	Location
Artistic Endeavors	750	3000	250	Jun	House zu Heltzer
The Beak of Darkness	750	3500	275	Rutger zu Heltzer	House zu Heltzer
The Ancient Forest	750	3000	250	Scholar Andrej	House zu Heltzer
→ The Experimental Weaponsmith	750	3000	250	Scholar Andrej	House zu Heltzer
Melodic Gaki Flute	750	3000	250	Vasili Lutgardis	House zu Heltzer
→ Discord Wallow Lyre	750	3000	250	Vasili Lutgardis	House zu Heltzer
→ Rhythm Drinker Drum	750	3000	250	Vasili Lutgardis	House zu Heltzer
Song and Stone	1000	5000	350	Count zu Heltzer	House zu Heltzer
Wardens On the March	750	3000	250	Rutger zu Heltzer	House zu Heltzer
Envoy of the Dredge	750	3000	250	Moleneaux	Ferndale
→ Temple of the Dredge	750	3000	250	Moleneaux	Ferndale
→ Revolt of the Dredge	750	3000	250	Moleneaux	Ferndale
Kurzick Supply Lines	400	2000	150	Supplymaster Konrad	Ferndale
Scouting Ferndale	400	2000	150	Forestmaster Vasha	Ferndale
Charting the Forests	500	5000	200	Sekai the Mapmaker	Maatu Keep
Total	10550	52500	3825

Does anyone have any opinion about including this table on the "Befriending the Kurzicks" quest? Is it useful? It was useful to me since the "Category:Gives Kurzick factions" includes some quests that cannot be done until after "Befriending the Kurzicks". Luke1138 02:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Can Befriending the Kurzicks become optional?

It is a pain to complete Befriending the Kurzicks when you don't that many alliance battles. So, can it become an optional quest instead of a primary?

Project Gnome 20:51, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

What He Said, PLEASE!!!! esp as a huge number of players are soon going to leave for GW2; At least Lower the Necessary Faction to a Reasonable number that does not double the number of Quests one must complete to access HM. --69.255.123.188 14:22, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

I've never done an alliance battle, yet I've befriended both the Kurzicks and the Luxons on fifteen characters. The secret is to not spend that initial 10K faction until all your chars have got that far. The quests aren't hard to do, and it doesn't take many vanquishes to hit 10K, assuming you have HM available. --snograt 15:48, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

This quest always seems to halt my progression in the Factions storymode, but if you've made it to either of the Competitive Missions (which are not Alliance Battles) Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry making that 10k faction should be a breeze. If you have an empty character slot, Fort Aspenwood can be immediately accessed by a PvP-Only Character. Simply have your PvP character map to Great Temple of Balthazar, and speak to either Kurzick Recruiter or Luxon Diplomat. These two NPCs will give you an option of travelling to "FA" or "JQ" for each respective side (Luxon or Kurzick).

Most Importantly, these two Competitive Missions are made up of randomly assembled teams. In other words, once you make it to the outpost (which requires only two map travels), you can just click "Enter Mission" and you'll be put in line for the next available battle. Each battle rewards an average of 4000 Imperial Faction which can be traded to Hei Tsu for an equal amount of either Kurzick or Luxon.

Alternatively, if you follow the quest helpers for Defend Fort Aspenwood and The Jade Quarry (Kurzick quest) for Kurzick players or Fort Aspenwood (quest) and The Jade Quarry (Luxon quest) for Luxon players, your Role-playing Character will be led to these outposts automatically. Or, as Snograt suggested, you could just do the Boreas Seabed or Arborstone a couple times, or a couple vanquishes if you want to avoid PvP altogether. It depends on your preference, but I find CM's to be a quick way to finish this quest, and to make easy Z-Keys and titles if you decide to keep doing them. --CrazyRabidSquirrel 16:45, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

You can only complete Boreas Seabed or Arborstone once with master's reward. Repeating the missions after that won't get you more faction rewards, unless you complete it with the Zaishen Mission quest. --Silver Edge 21:01, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm so daft sometimes. You would need the Zaishen Missions to get any Faction upon repeat if you had already completed them on Master's. Thanks for the correction! --CrazyRabidSquirrel 22:12, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks much for taking the time to reply. :) --69.255.123.188 10:52, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Stub??

Why is this article considered a stub? What's missing? Luke1138 05:41, 21 August 2008 (UTC)