User talk:Wynthyst/Archive/Feb 10

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white text on black background

Why is this difficult? I am interested since I've been reading that way for many years...for IRC, for DOS boxes and other coding, for text-based games, and so on. I have always found black text on white difficult, especially with computers, due to glare and the sheer "brightness" of white. Vili 点 01:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

just a side note black backgrounds use less power from your monitor... see blackle [1]- Zesbeer 02:03, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I personally find it much more difficult to read white on black than black on white. I know that there was much debate during the policy change discussion regarding guild pages that were in high contrast to the rest of the wiki. It was my general impression being involved in that discussion that many people found those types of pages more difficult to read. It is also one reason that I believe the general consensus on the overall CSS of GWW was determined to be black text on white background though I wasn't around for those discussions, so I could be mistaken. -- Wyn talk 03:46, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

(I'm not sure of the context behind this discussion, can someone help me out?) I think white text on a black tablet against a light/white background is harder to read. --03:51, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

There's a lot of interesting reading with the research that's been done on this topic. Just do a general web search such topics as: "color contrast and readabiity", "black text on white background" or its inverse, etc. Seryu 03:56, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I prefer white text on a black background. It makes it easier on my eyes and for me to read. I think they might not figured out how to make black appear as a background quite as much as white in some codings. So, we have what we have. Kaisha 08:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

For future reference...

how exactly do you make the cape emblems the color you want? (Like the process in photoshop/GIMP if its not a hassle) –alistic 00:47, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Hue/Saturation -- Wyn talk 03:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

thanks! –alistic 03:57, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Where the [expletive deleted] is the project page? →[ »Halogod (talk)« ]← 03:58, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

What project? -- Wyn talk 04:33, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Just, projects in general. Armor rating, skill history and animations. →[ »Halogod (talk)« ]← 04:24, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

GWW:PROJECTS? -- Lacky 07:00, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

You

have more patience than I do. Cheers 24.167.55.144 06:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

What does patience have to do with it? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Zmission (talk).

I'm simply doing what needs to be done. -- Wyn talk 06:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Suppose a user had access to an unlimited number of distinct IP addresses, what would you and the other admins eventually do? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Zmission (talk).

Oops, your premise is flawed, there are only a finite number of IPs. --RIDDLE 06:26, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

There is a functionally unlimited number. Thousands could be used a day and it would still take numerous lifetimes to get through them all and that's just on IPv4 which is nearing the end of its life.

The latest vandal fighting tip I learned was that you can put a &bot=1 or ?bot=1 in the url of RC or the user's contribs, and when you rollback, it automatically flags those edits as bot. --JonTheMon 06:27, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

That would make rollbacks quicker, but wouldn't prevent the edits from occurring the first place.

As to what we would do? Keep banning until he gets bored. I mean, when none of his edits live more than a couple of seconds, what's the point? They all eventually do get bored and find other amusement. -- Wyn talk 06:30, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Just suppose the offender never got bored. What would you do? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Taylor9 (talk).

Error in your premise: The offender is clearly only 9 years old and must be in bed at some point. --RIDDLE 06:33, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Still, valid point. Surely, there's a better way to handle it than "ban him until he gets bored"?  :\ is for Raine, etc. 04:36, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

No, not really. Range bans don't work for proxies. -Auron 04:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Wyn..

Could you please remove this image I uploaded on Everlasting_Reindeer_Tonic, I placed it in the wrong section and only realised after I posted it :| Sorry to make more work for you guys *embarrassed* --Find And Seek 01:27, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Done.. and no worries. -- Wyn talk 01:31, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank You V-Much :D <3 --Find And Seek 01:32, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Question

Can you archive this? Reaper of Scythes** 21:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Why don't you do it yourself instead of bothering Wyn with this? — Mini Me 21:30, 7 February 2010

I actually meant if it was allowed >.> Reaper of Scythes** 21:32, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Ty

Whatever you have done, I thank you. this makes me quiet happy, just singed up some minutes ago, to post my suggestions (why do i have a separate suggestion page, and how do i like it to my normal page?) and already persons try to help me.

Greetings Lorkopf

PS: hpe you continue helping me to understand this and how to create my own page --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Lorkopf (talk).

Simply add a link on your userpage to your feedback page [[Feedback:User/Lorkopf]] to make it easy to get to. If you wish to create a nice looking userpage, the easiest thing to do is find one you like that belongs to someone else, and copy their code. Simply replace their information with yours. If you have additional questions, please feel free to ask any helper, check out our Help center or post a question on our Help:Ask a wiki question page. There are plenty of people here to help. Also, sign your comments with 4 tildes (~~~~) :D -- Wyn talk 02:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to prove me wrong

But in my experience girls who play GWs are the homely equivalent of camwhores: self-absorbed and attention-starved, yet devoid of any redeeming physical attributes. Cheers!--TahiriVeila 04:47, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

As I said, it's a completely ignorant, stupid thing to say and only convinces me more than you have little credibility in anything you say. I don't have to prove anything to anyone. As far as who in this community are the bigger attention whores, it's all the people who spend their lives qqing about skill updates, or expounding on the incompetence of ArenaNet staff to function in their job descriptions. But who am I? I hope someday you meet someone that can educate you on the real state of the gaming world.... -- Wyn talk 05:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

For those of us who actually play the game competitively, skill balance tends to be pretty high priority. I can see why being concerned about the state of the game makes me uneducated about the state of the gaming industry, completely valid argument, c?--TahiriVeila 05:08, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

"All girls that play guildwars are not only stupid and arrogant but they're ugly too, Oh btw im very smart and know lots and lots about the game" God TV, can you do ANYTHING but meme? --71.193.48.146 05:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Are you that briar kid? He's the only person I know who doesn't seem to understand the definition of meme--TahiriVeila 05:16, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually thats me. and i was gonna refrain but since you mentioned me by name, Ill chime in, If you honestly think that all girls that play guildwars are ugly, i think She Would like a word with you. --Briar 05:20, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Uh, I think you kind of just proved my point.--TahiriVeila 05:23, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

You know, I'm no doctor of english literature, But im pretty sure you just called yas stupid, arrogant, and (or at the very least) Ugly. --Briar 06:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 07:20, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Can be discussed about. ---Chaos- (moo) -- 08:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I've never met you yas and I'm sure you're a very nice person who's very intelligent. But based off those pictures I personally would not find you attractive physically and the type of person who writes an extended page about herself in the manner you did displays a degree of self-involvement that I wouldn't be attracted to on a personal level either. I'm not saying it's bad, I'm not saying you're not a great person. I just wouldn't want to see you naked. xD--TahiriVeila 15:39, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Dude, that was bad, that was real bad. You need some time-out, seriously. - Reanimated X 15:45, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes it is terrible and it's what happens when half the wiki lets itself be trolled. TV could use a 3rd ban in what, less than 1 month already? Not like anyone will miss his 'awesome contributions'.--Sensei | talk 16:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Can someone please explain to me when it became bad to state that you're not sexually attracted to someone? Would it have been better if I had lied and said I wanted to mount her at the earliest convenience? What is there in any of my comments that's ban-worthy? I just stated that in my experience, I would generally not classify girls who play guild wars as sexually attractive and many of the girls I've come across in the game have serious personality flaws. That's not an attack on anyone, or even an attack on females in general. It's a statement of my personal experience. zzzzz--TahiriVeila 16:15, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Lau is hawt! But then again, she's so manly, so maybe she doesn't count as a proper gamer girl. She's also 99% poro, which decreases her girlllines further, and makes her even more of a manly man, or a beast, the call is someones. ---Chaos- (moo) -- 07:56, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

User:Suicidal Romance X? -Cursed Angel 14:04, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Lau is very hawt, but she's the exception that proves the rule. Plus she's getting an engineering degree from oxford, which proves she's not a girl =P --TahiriVeila 15:36, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Meh, Lau's ok. Still not someone I'd want to see naked. To be fair, stereotypes are usually loosely based on some part of reality....and most of the gamer girls I've ever known could peel turpentine off a wall if they just looked at it. Karate Jesus 16:19, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

uh huh, ok..... *cough*[2]*cough* --Shadowphoenix 16:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't think anyone is arguing that there aren't exceptions to the rule. It's like the butt-rape in prison thing. Sure, not everyone gets butt-raped in prison, but I used to work in a prison....and most of them have been butt-raped. Btw, nice exception to the rule ;D Karate Jesus 17:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I am just waiting to see when and if someone pulls a Tanaric. This is hilarious, though. Pika Fan 17:03, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I was going to, but Pling beat me to it. :\ —Tanaric 18:05, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

The ban reasoning around here cracks me up. TV makes a random comment to Grinch, gets jumped by Wyn and some others, defends himself (albeit too much), and then he's the only one that gets banned. Pretty hilarious, if you ask me. Hell, even I deserve a ban based on the reasons given, lol. Karate Jesus 18:36, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

At least they're consistent for banning in situations where bans don't need to be handed out. -- Tha Reckoning File:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg 18:42, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Lol, very nice. But, to be fair, everyone knows that if you fuck with Wyn you get banned, even if she starts it. The only exception, apparently, is when she and a few of her friends make sock accounts and troll a guy unmercifully. But, of course, that only deserves 1 day. Karate Jesus 18:46, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Starts it? I started nothing here. -- Wyn talk 18:53, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

KJ, I neither know nor care about the history of this thread beyond this particular talk page. The content clearly isn't welcome here (based on Wyn's first reply) and the user is a troll degrading women. If it had stuck to whatever it's original source was, with users that didn't mind such talk, I wouldn't have cared. As it is, TV instead chose to move it across the wiki to get as much attention focused on himself as possible. That's not what we're here for. —Tanaric 19:03, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

[3] I disagree wyn, you went onto another persons talk page and got involved, effectively, "starting it". Also I don't see why my comment is being removed as I am not trolling/attacking anybody, simply pointing out that this could have ALL been avoided if wyn just didn't get involved in discussions not even involving here. --Frosty 19:08, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

The rest that is potentially to come can still ALL be avoided if everyone shuts up and goes away. -- pling 19:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Right so banning people first THEN telling people to be quiet is the way it goes, bit like shoot first ask questions later isn't it? Bracing for impact. --Frosty 19:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I believe Pling is not asking TV/KJ to be quiet, but that the continuation of this thread is moot at this point. However, if you still feel strongly that the blocks were unwarranted, you can take it to Pling or another admin. — Gares 19:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Because that works? the wiki is known for being ridiculous with this stuff. arguing with an admin is just stupid when they can go to irc and make fun of you or sock then troll you. whats the point? 19:28, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

[4]

So I'ma take it you're like the Scarlett Johannson of the gaming world? XD Proof would be so awesome right now...lol =P -- Lacky 05:57, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

In reference to this section and the section above, stop being trolled or trolling on this topic please. Tahiri didn't even really have to try to troll anyone, it pretty much just happened, so I'm not sure I can even blame him. Then of course came the second rate and unintentional trolls. It's really just better dropped because I don't want to have to roll up my sleeves and sort out the unintentional trolls from the terrible trolls. Misery 12:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

You can always block Briar because he's always terrible. -Cursed Angel 14:07, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

The same could be said about you, in all fairness. ~~

If I were to share my opinion, unfortunately, I'd have to agree with Tahiri. I'd much prefer it weren't true, but - yeesh - my experiences weigh strongly to that side. ··· Danny Pew Pew

Template help

Hi Wyn! Hope I'm not being a burden, but you're very good with templates, and I was wondering if I could ask for help on one. A friend has asked me to help him with his Wiki page, and I've managed to make a template for his character pages. But in the area where it has his character's story, titles, etc., it would look more balanced if I split the titles and accomplishments so that they'd be to the right of the rest of the info, but still in the same box as the biography. Whenever I change the code though, it either doesn't work, or the content that should be on the right is outside the box with the profession (lighter) color and is on the profession (light) color. I hope that makes sense, but I was wondering if you could perhaps help me fix it. The URL to the code is: here. I'd greatly appreciate it and I know my friend would too. Thanks! Tender Wolf 04:32, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

This about right? I seemed to have messed up the border though lol –alistic 04:41, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

So glad I could help :P Balistic... do you see the username at the top of this page??? -- Wyn talk 04:52, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

xP –alistic 04:54, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, you are continually stepping on everything I do, and I've expressed my displeasure with that repeatedly. If someone wanted your help, they'd ask YOU. -- Wyn talk 04:55, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Geez Balistic, don't you know? The Wiki is Not a Forum. elix Omni 04:56, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Sorree, go ahead (: I think he mentioned in the same box? –alistic 04:58, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

This has nothing to do with whether the wiki is a forum or not.... I'm just bored out of my skull at the moment and would have enjoyed having something productive to do. -- Wyn talk 04:59, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

You heard her, Balistic. Stop helping people. Vili 点 05:01, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikis aren't the only place where you can find something productive to do. Thanks! -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 05:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't know why I even bother... seems like all the trolls are out tonight... -- Wyn talk 05:05, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

That should be a song. Or a musical.--67.240.83.137 05:13, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

In the wiki, the mighty wiki, the trolls are out tonight? Vili 点 05:27, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually I was thinking to the tune of "Under the Milky Way." The version with the bagpipe solo.--67.240.83.137 05:37, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I've... never heard of that. Perhaps, in the spirit of the topic (or at least the second of the two words), Wyn could find a video of it or something? Something productive to do :) Thanks! -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 05:51, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Kind of a random choice, but it's in a commercial and it's hard to get rid of those kind of songs. Plus, musicals need some variety. On a side note, ending comments with "Thanks!" is surprisingly annoying after a while, even without the jab. --67.240.83.137 06:05, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Does it? Well, for letting me know, Thanks! -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 06:15, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Copycat.... Still, I'm flattered, Random IP. Thanks! NuVII 16:11, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, whoever got that template working, thank you. lol Tender Wolf 22:01, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Elite skills

Hey Wyn, sorry to bother, but I use your elite skills template (ex: here), but for my non-main characters, I was only planning on getting (and tracking) the skills for their main profession (kind of like here). What I was wondering is if there is a way to set up a template that allows you to put in the profession (like it takes now to set the colors based on the profession) and it restricts it to displaying that profession's elite skills. Possible or should I just stick with hacking it together like the second example? -- FreedomBound 00:14, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Probably. Jon would be better one to ask about it though, I suck with if/else stuff. -- Wyn talk 00:44, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Now why am I the topic of discussion? Yeah, I could probably hack make a variant of wyn's elite skill template, but you'd have to specify what exactly you want. Do you want a way to turn off the other professions you don't want? do you want to be able to display more than 1? Do you want it to intelligently figure out if a specific profession has an elite skill and display if it does (fyi, I'm not gonna do that)? --JonTheMon 01:26, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

If I understand correctly, he wants the profession designation that assigns the color to also be the only set of elite skills to be visible. -- Wyn talk 01:31, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Maybe if I watch what you do, I can learn how to do it as well :D -- Wyn talk 01:32, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Exactly right Wyn. Only one set, so if I put in "mo" for monk, it will show only the monk skills. If I put in "r" for ranger, it will only show the ranger skills, etc. -- FreedomBound 01:39, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Fine, try it: User:Freedom Bound/Template/Elite Skills --JonTheMon 02:44, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! Thanks Jon! -- FreedomBound 02:47, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi

How are you? (: --Crow So Crow 02:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Rant

Thanks for posting it. I had a nice laugh; want to know why?

1. A one-day block is meaningless. Block durations do tend to increase for repeat offenses; that doesn't justify placing blocks that do absolutely nothing and claiming that they're solving problems or whatever.
2. You are blind to the offenses you've committed. I shouldn't have to explain to you why the numerous instances of your aggressive attitude, general asshattery, and unprompted explosions on randoms are problems. Since the arbcomm, we can add heaping numbers of personal attacks to that list. (Because you're blind to your offenses, I'll tell you to take a look at Auron's talk for some of the personal attacks.)
3. The discussion had not ended. This should be obvious, but a discussion pretty much isn't over until a few days have passed. Wiki 101.
4. You not proxying or sockpuppeting isn't important. Your tone there implies that seem to think that it's a special thing that you actually sat out your one day ban. Good job; want a fucking medal?
5. It's obvious you're trying to shift attention away from yourself. You and Auron represent a pretty huge duality on this wiki; one of you is popular and helpful to anyone around, one of you is a reclusive asshat who doesn't like people. The gap has narrowed in the past three or four months, but it's still there. It's pretty obvious that you're (perhaps subconsciously) using this whole thing to divert attention from yourself and onto "bad guy" Auron so you won't get the desysoping you've had coming for a long, long time.
6. You're blind to your own special status in the community. People give a shit about Wyn. People don't give a shit about Auron, or Pling, or Tanaric, or, in general, people who don't help them directly. You're probably responsible for the creation of about half the userpages on the wiki, which gives people a bond to you. Off the top of my head, Salome does the same, and so do a lot of other sysops, though not nearly to the same degree. Poke is the most notable exception, though what he helps out with are significantly more complicated than "he made my userpage pretty :D:D:D" and, consequentially or not, are less visible/fanboi'd.
7. Your tangent about the random IP. The people who think you're a bad sysop extend far beyond random IPs - many of them for the same reason as the random IP you mentioned.
8. Your random personal "attacks" on said random IP. Really now, is he any less right because he has so few contributions and because you've judged them to be trollish? (Besides, lots of people have dynamic IPs, or post only from certain places.)
9. The QQ. Apparently, life on wiki sucks for you. Want to talk about life sucking? I'm spending a day with Chloe tomorrow, not as a lover or even an ex-lover after almost four years but as a friend. It's not logical or meaningful of me, but if you want to talk about how life sucks for you for the past year, I'm more than fairly confident I can match and smash any of your QQ with my life from mid-December to now. But you're still here and, apparently, still playing Guild Wars, so it can't be that bad, can it?
10. Your edit count is meaningless. More accurately, edit counts in general are meaningless. They change nothing; see point 8.
11. Your predicted failure at math. I'm willing to bet you took the pic of your contributions right before you posted that rant, which means you'd have 39,456 contribs at the time of writing. (The bet I took last night won me $20, so I'm feeling lucky right about now!)
12. Your ignorance of Auron's RfR and your own history. My major gripe against you, as you are probably perfectly well aware, is that you let your emotions affect how you use your sysop tools. Auron never lets how he feels about a situation interfere with how he handles it; you very often do. Take a look at some of those contributions you seem so proud of if you don't believe me.
13. The way you walk into saying you should be banned. Why should you be treated any differently from Auron, indeed? Let's ban you too.
14. Your obvious rage. umadbrah?

By the way, we're studying Woodrow Wilson and the end of World War I in history.

-- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 07:14, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

There are no personal attacks on Auron's page posted by Wyn, Armond. - Reanimated X 07:21, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, armond is completely wrong in saying that asking someone to be thrown under a bus isn't a threat of violence.

Also, I feel for ya bro. "a day with Chloe tomorrow, not as a lover or even an ex-lover after almost four years but as a friend" <-- This shit sucks. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:NuclearVII (talk).

Yeah Nuk... like anyone thinks I mean anything other than throwing Auron under the "bus" of this community the way I have been for much less. -- Wyn talk 19:23, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Turning off edits

Hi again! I noticed you've set up your main page so that no one can edit it, and I'd like to do that to my own page, but I'm not sure how. I've been looking around in my preferences but haven't been able to find it. Could you please help me? Thanks! :) Tender Wolf 20:40, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

That wouldn't be possible without stopping you from editing it as well. Protection can only be applied by a sysop. Also, page protection is generally reserved for pages which are vandalised repeatedly. To some extent, GWW:USER says that other people shouldn't be editing your userpage, and if you think someone is editing your page without your permission, you can (kindly) ask them not to.

By the way, are you sure you can't edit Wyn's userpage on your account? The protection level isn't high enough to prevent you from editing it. -- pling 20:55, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Might be referring to the practice of transcluding everything. elix Omni 20:58, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

He's probably referring how Wyn's page is semi-protected. imo the entire User: namespace should be blocked from ips, because people should be signing in to edit their own user page anyways. –alistic 21:03, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Wiki dies every time one page is protected, I'd hate to see what protecting an entire namespace would do. It would make sense, though. It would cut down on the "is this vandalism?" questions when an IP (which is generally just someone that hasn't logged in) edits a registered user's page, too. -- FreedomBound 23:42, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

The trouble you describe comes out of people reacting badly to unlogged-in users editing their userpages, not from the actual unlogged-in users. I don't think userpages need to be protected. (And various users invite open editing on userpages, so you may even do more harm than good.) -- pling 23:50, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually Freedom, protection of a namespace is done server side by ArenaNet, so it has little impact on the wiki community in general. We not only built the Feedback namespace while it was protected but we also had the ArenaNet namespace protected once Feedback was opened. My page became a massive troll/vandal target when I became a sysop. That is why it is semi protected. -- Wyn talk 17:59, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

CNY district hosting?

Just curious but is GOD hosting a district again like last year or should I just go to any district? Only reason I ask is because for the first couple events I will be asleep and would rather get maximum rewards from the start (been rather inactive on GW lately so haven't had a chance to collect anything I have access to) and also because I trust you to have all ingredients unlike one district last year which didn't. --Kakarot 03:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

All our afkers and stuff is in international d10... but good luck getting in. -- Wyn talk 07:38, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

We moved to ID18, easier to get into :D -- Wyn talk 22:42, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: Auron's talk page

Hi Wyn,

"And you should be thrown under a bus for your repeated and continued asshatery here Auron, not get nominated to be a bcrat. Get over yourself."

These kinds of personal attacks really aren't helping the situation here. I brought a case against Auron and blocked him for some of his actions -- holding him accountable and working to improve the situation. You brought a great deal of disrespect into the process in what seems to be a bid just to complain about the case against you.

Whether the conversation will continue or not once Auron gets back, I don't know, but I'd really appreciate it if you'd not dilute the issue with an irrelevant case. If you have accusations against me or any other sysop involving injustice, please take it up with us directly or with ArbComm.

—Tanaric 08:09, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

NPA, Wyn!!! Bus throwing-under is pretty violent. And disrespectful to the process. --67.240.83.137 08:30, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

You know what Tanaric? I really don't give a shit what you think. I don't consider anything I said to Auron a violation of NPA, given that the "bus" I'm referring to is this community's disciplinary process, and I have referred to it in that way more than once. For anyone to think that I mean he should literally be run over by a bus is just about as ridiculous as someone saying I don't use my sysop tools for much of anything useful. Your hasty and not well thought out comments (which you actually apologized to me for in IRC if you recall) precipitated a lot of my anger so please don't come here and preach to me in fact, I would prefer you not speak to me at all. I also don't care what all the self proclaimed trolls think they are the ones that really run this place. People claim I have had an attitude problem before all this crap happened.... well, now I DO have an attitude problem, but I will (and recently have) refrain from unleashing it on undeserving users. Until someone can point out a serious instance where I have abused my sysop tools, there is no reason for me to comment further. Yes I'm still pissed off, and will probably remain so when it comes to this place and the people that "run" it... I am nothing but a janitor here now... and will probably stay that way forever. At this point I really don't care anymore. -- Wyn talk 08:48, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh oh! Can I play this game too? Can I please? -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 21:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Uh, I wasn't referring to the "thrown under a bus" bit -- I understand the idiom. I was referring to you calling him an asshat. —Tanaric 21:09, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Is Auron not an asshat? I mean, if there were a formal definition I'm sure he'd fit it. (I'm also sure Wyn would, as well as most of the members of this community.) 173.23.85.16

zzz Auron calls himself an asshat. @Armond, please stop being bad. Thanks! -Cursed Angel 21:32, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

"Asshatery" is commenting on the contributions, not the contributor. Happy (late) Valentine's Day Tanaric! --67.240.83.137 03:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Tan although I understand the point you're making, the way policy has been interpreted over the past few years, seems to allow you to criticize someones actions as Asshattery as long as you do not in fact call the user an Asshat. (I am aware this is a semantic argument as one is defined by their actions, thus calling someones actions idiotic is in effect calling the user an idiot, however that seems to be how the policy has been implemented and has been followed by most of the admin team.) I'm not saying I agree either way, just pointing out this fact, as this may have been a change from a couple of years ago and thus you may have missed it during your absence from the wiki. For a further example of this please see block summaries which state "general asshattery" as the reason, in effect calling the user an asshat but again taken not to fall under the remit of NPA. -- Salome 03:53, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Your edit

Rice Wine costs 400g at the Merchant, Dwarven Ale 200g. So the difference is indeed 200g. The 'Value' is what the Merchant offers for it. Cheers. -- Arduin 18:57, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Woops. Thanks for catching that. My bad. -- Wyn talk 19:02, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

wat

No fun. At all. --67.240.83.137 22:30, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I respect your decision, I don't have to like it though. --Silverleaf Don't assume, Know! 22:52, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry that meeting sucked so bad.

I can only hope that you made your decision for the right reasons, though. is for Raine, etc. 01:40, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

:o(

^ Yeah that pretty much sums things up... I don't agree with your decision but I will respect it. --Shadowphoenix 17:35, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh man....really? *sob* I've been watching and reading this wiki since it first started, and you were my favourite sysop. Oh well, it's their loss. At least you got out before you decided to burn the whole thing to the ground, that's good sysophood. (I can't believe you only got one line of recognition in the community portal). (Xu Davella 02:50, 21 February 2010 (UTC))

I love carebears <3 Reaper of Scythes** 15:52, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I heard about what happened. Welcome to the land of the normies. ~Shard 04:32, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

It was totally my decision, the political climate of this place is decidedly unhealthy, though Tanaric's meltdown gives me a slight sense of vindication. -- Wyn talk 04:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

That whole discussion in relation was extremely weird... (Xu Davella 06:48, 2 March 2010 (UTC))

CNY Dist Host

Sorry for getting this late, But was happy to see many Guilds and Alliances hosting, as were the members of GOD ... the OBE Alliance was up in 16 Intnl and had a blast. Reason for this blurb, I may have come off heavy to someone in 10 at the start of celebration, for this, I sincerely appoligize <3333 MystiLefemEle 09:21, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

I was there, don't worry, you did fine =P -- Tha Reckoning File:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg 09:23, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Meh, id10 was a madhouse... several guild/alliances fighting over it. They argued for hours, and I mostly just let them. It got so crowded that we weren't able to go questing in between events and get back in, so we moved seeing that there were so many "hosts" there, I didn't have to worry about our afkers. It was all good though :D -- Wyn talk 12:05, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

I myself leeched 5 events off ID10, so thanks for the tip Wyn! If you see the other Wyn, tell her I said hi. elix Omni 02:55, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

My mini pet template

Thanks for bringing the extra spaces to my attention. I see what you mean, but I can't seem to be able to get them out of there; I'd also like the columns for each section (1st year, 2nd year, etc.) to line up, but can't seem to get that to work either. Could you perhaps help me out please? Thanks, I appreciate it. :) Tender Wolf 03:05, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

LOL I fixed the extra columns you had in there, it was just bugging me. I will take a look at it again though to see where the current problem is. -- Wyn talk 09:23, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok, the problem with the column widths is because they float based on the text you have in them. To make them all a standard size, you have to manually set the width size for each column in each table. It can be done, but is problematic for viewers using different resolutions. I don't have the problem because mine isn't broken into multiple tables like yours is. -- Wyn talk 09:29, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Seeing Tender Wolf's minipet template made me want make my own too. Took a bugger of a time, but I think I got the kinks worked out. Its definatly not as visually appealing, but it simplistically works for my needs. Take a look at it if you want. And to Wolf, you have a great looking layout and template theme. It inspired me to try my hand again at template-making.--Neithan Diniem 04:28, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure you inspired BioWare

here you are --Boro 16:11, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

"The name Wynne originates from the Welsh language, being the female form of the name Wyn"

wat? Wyn is a male name? Karate Jesus 16:02, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Sort of. Wyn is a dual-name, like Casey, Sam, Ashley. — Gares 16:26, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I'd never call my son Ashley. Thanks! NuVII 21:36, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I have three cousins named Pat, Mel, and Chris, and a friend named Sam. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 07:26, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Sam is actually short for both Samuel and Samantha, so in essence it's two different names. --Frosty 23:29, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

And Pat isn't short for Patricia and Patrick? And Chris isn't short for Christopher and Christine? (Also, what's a longer male version for Mel? I got Melissa, but...) -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 05:41, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Melvin.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 05:54, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Melimander. elix Omni 06:11, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Melgibson. Also, I know a girl named Christofer. She's only named that because her mom is a friggin' psycho hippy. --RIDDLE 06:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, there are better examples than Sam. I just used that one because I dated a girl and her legal name was Sam. Guess her folks were too lazy to fill out the "antha" part *shrugs* — Gares 14:23, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

My real life name is unisex. How appropriate. Misery 14:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Misery, you are the best man-woman-horse I know. — Gares 14:44, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I can't decide whether Misery will fornicate with a man, woman or horse, so I'll just spend the rest of my night thinking of him fornicating with them all at once. Without the others noticing, because Misery is that subtle. ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 00:40, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I can't see why anyone would ever want to shorten a name like Samantha. ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 00:40, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

This has gone on for absolutely long enough. Please stop. And Chaos.. you've got some real issues.. I suggest you seek professional help. But please, in the future keep this crap off my page. -- Wyn talk 00:42, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

As soon as you elaborate on what exactly makes you think I have issues. I also won't mind bluntness if it'll help you expressing yourself. ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 00:45, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

More template help *hides*

Hello again! Hate to bother you, but I've got one more small favor to ask. *hides* Another good friend has me helping her with her Wiki page, and the page is complete, except for the character boxes. Well, they're complete, but the way they're set up makes them extra long, causing more scrolling. Is there a way to place the titles and accomplishment sections in the center of the character box and leave the rest on the left with the picture on the right? The page is here. Thanks a lot! :) Tender Wolf 05:00, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

With that character box there will be a lot of scrolling. I had that exact design a while back and you can expand each box to fir the entire width of the page but your going to have to scroll to see everything anyway, thats why I changed to the way mine are setup now. Drogo Boffin 05:26, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Let Wyn handle it, bro. elix Omni 06:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

If you want to widen the box to 3 columns, it can be done easily, but then you need to only have one per row. We try to optimize the pages to 1024x768 and having 2 characters side by side will case a sideways scroll at that resolution. I'd be happy to redo the character box that way, but it's still going to make for a long page with multiple characters. I would suggest widening the box, and give each character it's own page. -- Wyn talk 07:29, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Maybe something like this. -- Wyn talk 09:32, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I can handle it, bro. I was trying to explain that either way there is going to be scrolling, which there is. Drogo Boffin 17:26, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks guys! I'll try that out, I know there will be scrolling but it won't be as bad as it is now. :) Wish I wasn't such a noob at some of this stuff. hehe Tender Wolf 22:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Skill History

← moved to Guild Wars Wiki talk:Projects/Skill history

Any Coincidence?

long time ago.you said to me "...I plan to take a holiday the day SF gets Nerfed..." (Or something upon those lines) And you just recently steped down from Sysop.Smart move.i must say.Also,When you going on holiday?  ;) ("...take a holiday the day SF gets Nerfed...") --Neil2250 , Render Lord 17:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks Wyn for helping cropping our guild photo :D! --193.159.230.119 22:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC) Master Levan [PROJ]

yw :D -- Wyn talk 22:12, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Forward if it matters

Wyn, sorry for bugging you but if you still mod on guildwarsguru you might want to tell them their site just tried to install spyware on my pc from one of their adverts. I won't be visiting a site of that kind of low standards again so I have no idea who to warn about it. If you don't work with them, just archive this. I imagine that's how people's accounts get hacked though. Ghosst • Talk •

GWGR uses Tribal fusion as one of there major ad networks. Which is known for randomly producing spyware and or virus ads. Just use adblock plus on Guru...It's clean--Dominator Matrix 00:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Once again, Guru has little if any control on the adverts on their site. So calling them "low standard" is rather unfair, and is the kind of thing that starts all sorts of bullshit. We work very hard to keep our site clean, and free of security risks for our users. Even some of the most "high standard" sites on the internet have had security breaches. -- Wyn talk 00:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

How can you work very hard if you have little or no control over the security risks? elix Omni 01:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

We do everything WE can to secure our site, and we address issues of malicious ads with the ad provider whenever they occur. I am not personally involved in most of that stuff though, I deal primarily with the auctions. There are plenty of ways that users can keep their computers safe however, and they have been outlined and outlined and outlined. The fact that people don't listen to sound advice is, again, not my problem. I was simply commenting that claiming that the largest Guild Wars fansite is "low standard" is just asking to start bullshit. -- Wyn talk 01:26, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

If you cannot visit "low standard" websites such as Guru without getting Adware/Spyware then you need to stop using the internet. Drogo Boffin 01:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Also that is not a crack at Guru it is a crack at the OP. Drogo Boffin 01:32, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Strange, the other sites I visit don't try to install anything... and Drogo, whatever the personal problem you have is not my concern, but before you try to troll me, don't. You are acting sadly uneducated. Ghosst • Talk •

Template 5a

Hello again:

I added your template to my character DJ Ferry Corsten but it has some errors. Could you help me fix them? Also I want to add the same template to the other characters who still have empty page. Thanks.Yoshida Keiji 10:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

The errors are because you didn't fill in any of the variables. If you do, they go away. -- Wyn talk 12:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Template 5b?

Im not sure if my asking is way too much... but asking alone isnt much so... here´s my question: I would like an alternate character template by making a recicled convination of your previous works. From your available offers I would like to keep using template 5a with these differences:

• No Title and Honors space. So that the picture and "My Story" can use that area better. Plus an extra space which wont mess up, exclusive for user boxes.

• The other half (right): With only Armor Sets, Armory, Favourite Builds and Minipets.

• Change the current Hero section with your Hero Template 2, the one with images of each with current wearing armor.

That would be a customized version of my like from your offers.

Can I ask you that favor? Yoshida Keiji 11:54, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Yoshida, feel free to copy any of my templates into your userspace and alter them however you wish. Just don't change the ones in my userspace, since other people are using them. -- Wyn talk 18:21, 28 February 2010 (UTC)