User talk:Zerpha The Improver/Archive2

Talk headers

wow this is all empty now :/ --Cursed Angel 15:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

you don't like it? D: btw, you just defiled this archive by leaving out the heading D; curse you! —ZerphaThe Improver 15:36, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

haha i could make one if u want --Cursed Angel 15:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

is it allowed to add headings to existent talks? Well but i just remembered i also did so once...so i suppose it wouldn't be a big deal^^ (it is forbidden afaik as that could maybe cause the talk to be difficult to understand for other users, as it would likely be in this case here xD) —ZerphaThe Improver 15:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Why would it be forbidden? Calor 19:23, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I heard that even your own comments shouldn't be deleted as this would cause confusion...well, i thought it would accordingly be forbidden to change existent talks at all, including missing headers or similar. But thanks for the explication - and the heading ;) —ZerphaThe Improver 20:20, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

lol the talk header is named talk header --Cursed Angel 00:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

No, it's named talk headers ;) Calor 00:55, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) yes, Calor's action was an incredibly creative and at the same time simply unimaginative one.^^ —ZerphaThe Improver 00:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

yah, it takes time to think up something that creative :D --Cursed Angel 00:58, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Unused icons

Where are you getting all those unused icon images from? And what exactly were they used for? Just curious. --Mini Me 17:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

i had already saved them on my pc a long time, thought i could finally start uploading them now. All those icons are from my gw.dat file. —ZerphaThe Improver 17:52, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Aaaaah I see! Any clue in the .dat for what they were used for? --Mini Me 17:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

idk why they are still included there, but it also contains ancient skill icons like that of "Don't Believe Their Lies!". So some of them are likely unused icons from planned skills in prophecies that weren't integrated into the game. Some others are for unknown reason images of other skills in their "picture formation phase", and the rest are maybe optional icons that once were intended to be used for a specific skill. Some of them are maybe also monster skills, but i wouldn't suppose them to be as they have the typical proffesion colors. (Most special monster skill icons have a dark oange coloring) —ZerphaThe Improver 18:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

many necro icons there, more than it'd be needed for a campaign, like 25? and theres more than 40? strange but anyway the monk icon isnt that the buff u get in eotn when ure under level 20? --Cursed Angel 22:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

oh lol, just left you a note on your talk as i also noticed that you are unblocked now, but you already noticed.^^ And yeah, you're right. —ZerphaThe Improver 22:12, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalized

This user's user page has been vandalized once.

? - Y0_ich_halt 20:59, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

(the preceding comment took a bit longer than usual as the writer forgot that he uses ie and not ff atm, then noticed again that ie sucks in switching between websites and had to write it again)Oh, i didn't know you have a tl for this. I used lemi's userbox. He seemingly got his from the original wiki. But i don't get what the pic of your box's picture wants to say. It looks like a cat in a bathroom, but what does this have to do with a raptor/s? —ZerphaThe Improver 21:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

the pic is a raptor. do you know Raptors? - Y0_ich_halt 20:40, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

i know him slightly, but never directly talked to him, only saw several of his comments on talk pages. However, i still cannot identify what exactly the picture shows. A Raptor, a userpic of Rapotros, or a rl-Raptor? —ZerphaThe Improver 12:33, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

ah, i think i see it now! it's a model t-rex on tiled floor, right? —ZerphaThe Improver 12:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

exactly. maybe i should put it into photoshop and delete the background... :) - Y0_ich_halt 14:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

i'm looking for a better pic anyway, so if you happen to find something... - Y0_ich_halt 14:30, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

yeah, that would make it easier to figgure out what this pic actually intends to be^^ —ZerphaThe Improver 14:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Skill ideas

Awesome! just a question, did u maek the icons urself? they luuk very real --78.82.75.121 23:52, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks :D in act, they are real. Got them from gw.dat. They are unused. —ZerphaThe Improver 23:53, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

yah, a few of them luuks liek real skills, order of undeath and ravenous gaze i think. luuks liek theyre all nightfall skills too by the art. u have found any mesmer skills from there? --78.82.75.121 00:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

made an account so i could upload these it's from the cards u can download from the website, there was a few moar, price of pride i think but no big change, don't know why they maek different icons and dont use :/ --Blood Angel 00:19, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

excuse my late answer, didn't notice that i auto-logged out. I know that several skills got removed from the game in prophecies instead of getting nerfed, don't ask me why. additionally, some of these Necromancer icons could also be optional icons for Masochism, maybe they made several ones and didn't delete them. There are some icons that are about three years old but were never used ingame, it's a bit strange. Maybe you want to have a look at Category:Historical content. There is no information about Necromancer skills yet, but about several ranger, warrior, mesmer, and even the "missing" mesmer elite skill. —ZerphaThe Improver 00:51, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

btw, where did you get these icons from? I already saw them once ago in the old wiki, but also didn't know where the user got them from. —ZerphaThe Improver 00:54, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

nvmd...too tired, excuse my thoughtlessness :P —ZerphaThe Improver 00:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

oh i know, im cursed btw :D --78.82.75.121 01:04, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Blood Angel = CA? 0_ô why didn't you use your normal account? The comment on Gaile's talk also didn't remind me of you —ZerphaThe Improver 01:07, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

blocked --78.82.75.121 01:08, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

ahh right, just noticed so when casually looking through the admin noticeboard. For how long did they block you for your rickroll-insult? Anja said something about "longer the next time", so i thought it wouldn't be that long and you already are unblocked again. (btw, when looking through your contribs...yeah, the second one makes more sense to me now.) —ZerphaThe Improver 01:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Revert

Hi, I reverted this, because we are only listing signet of capture if it's available before you can buy it. (If I'm not totally wrong.) Just wanted to let you know! :) - anja 10:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

ok, sry. I thought we had only to be aware when listing skill trainers, as unlocked skills will be offered from any trainer, didn't know we don't list them if they were already available before this part of the story. (Although i suppose not all players already automatically were at these outposts when they can encoutner that boss, one can leave out many parts in Prophecies...) —ZerphaThe Improver 12:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

icon images

why are you replacing dat icons, with dat icons? --Lemming 03:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

are you sure they were .dat icons? I supposed them to be photoshopped ingame screenshots, as unlike the regular .dat icons, they didn't have 64x64px measures. —ZerphaThe Improver 13:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I think they were just cropped dat icons, they seem identical in every other way. --Lemming 13:16, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually I take that back, the skale fin was missing a chunk of the right side, so I think you are right :) --Lemming 13:17, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) cropped? why?...that destroys the nice uniformity of having all the same size :( —ZerphaThe Improver 13:20, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

gw.dat

I am curious to know how you go about extracting files from the gw.dat --Shadowphoenix 12:47, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

i think that's the fourth or fifth gw.dat header xD The links where i got it are written down here. (The program you need is called "GWDatBrowser". I found it by searching in google, in case the links don't work you could try to get it this way) —ZerphaThe Improver 13:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I got the browser from google. I pulled alot of the sounds adn they were all in french :P anyway to identify which is which? --Shadowphoenix 20:27, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) identify what exactly? I didn't do much with the sounds yet, but i noticed that i seemingly had sounds from every language. and the common sounds of monsters, like rollerbeetles. (i even noticed that you can here something like the putting away of the microphone in one sound file^^) —ZerphaThe Improver 20:51, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

weißt du noch, von welcher seite du den browser runtergeladen hast? ich hab keinen bock auf unliebe erfahrungen mit keyloggern und so zeugs. - Y0_ich_halt 20:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I will get the link for you I just gotta find it again :P --Shadowphoenix 20:41, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

i meant zerpha, he's been using it for a longer time. if you just downloaded it, chance is lower they've already received your password if there was a keylogger. - Y0_ich_halt 20:43, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I did nto understand, that...... do u mean a trojan? --Shadowphoenix 20:50, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) naja, zum einen von dem link den ich oben erwähnt hab, bzw im archiv gespeichert ist. ich habs von 2 unterschiedlichen seiten runtergeladen, weil das eine nicht ging. Von den möglichen keyloggern hab ich schon auf der seite von Chriskang gelesen. (wo ich auch das erste mal was von gw.datBrowser gehört hatte). Er hat diesen link als virusfrei angegeben, den hatte ich dann auch genommen. —ZerphaThe Improver 20:51, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Y0 if u meant a trojan and/or virus, I did a full scan after download, none were detected. --Shadowphoenix 20:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) i also didn't hear anything about keyloggers before, only trojans as well^^ According to the german wiki, couldn't you protect yourself with a "virtual keyboard", y0? —ZerphaThe Improver 20:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

keyloggers are programs that register everything you input with your keyboard (which is why you can protect yourself from the worse ones using a virutal keyboard; you click the buttons in such programs). once they find what they were made to find, they send it to their programmer. - Y0_ich_halt 21:09, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

good, that's exactly how i would have described it after browsing the wiki article^^ —ZerphaThe Improver 21:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

UTOPIA THEME SONG!!!

Idk if anyone else found it, but I think I may have found the GW Utopia theme song while browsing the gw.dat.....or not maybe idk but it is really pretty song lol --Shadowphoenix 22:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

wow, nice found. are you sure it's used nowhere? i only discovered some strange flute sounds...were maybe intended to be used for gwen, but i did never hear them. —ZerphaThe Improver 22:13, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I think so far I have found over 15 unused sounds, how ever a few may have been used in GW:EN. But most of what I found seems to have an odd theme to it; it is nothing like the theme of any of the GW games. I am looking for more, most of them are in the 80,000 region of the gw.dat; if u r interested. --Shadowphoenix 00:34, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks for that tip, i'll look for it the next time i browse gw.dat. Atm i have fun using the "Chest Engine", thanks to Smurf's little tuturial. You won't believe me, but they gave Mantra of Celerity a concise skill description! :D Is there still hope that those skills will find their way into the game?... —ZerphaThe Improver 00:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Nah. I suspect all the concise skill descriptions were done automatically by following set conventions, and Anet never took Mantra of Celerity and others out of their skill files. Calor 01:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

D: plz wait with casting Drain Delusions on me the next time i'm in a euphoric mood. bah...but you're very likely right. >.< —ZerphaThe Improver 01:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Mimic

how do u know it's concise description? i mean, did they add a concise description to a skill thats no longer in game? --Cursed Angel 01:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

lol didnt see that question there. lol -- Salome 01:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) as Calor said above, they likely systematically added concise descriptions to all skills, because of that these unused skills were included. Atm i'm looking at these skills by using Cheat Engine, Smurf was that nicely to explain how to look at skills with that program on this page. —ZerphaThe Improver 01:46, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

i just wanna know why, if they did it on purpose or if those who worked with it didn't know these skills were no longer in game :/ --Cursed Angel 01:51, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

hmmm, with "systematically" i meant that they likely run a program that re-writes all skills in "the list", without excluding special unused skills with various numbers. —ZerphaThe Improver 01:54, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

but u can use those skills or how can u see their description? --Cursed Angel 01:56, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

regrettably, i can only look at them. :) but maybe one could also "test" them, but idk if this would work, though. —ZerphaThe Improver 02:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

would be cool to test the disappear skill :D --Cursed Angel 02:07, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

yes, then we could find out whether they already programed that weirdo or not :D —ZerphaThe Improver 02:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Concise description of Disapeer

errr.... how do you know the concise description of that skill? I was to understand that this skill was never released and was no longer a part of the active build of GW. -- Salome 01:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

hmm, what i wrote to CA is about that same that i'd answer now, at best simply read my answer above ;) —ZerphaThe Improver 01:47, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

There are really strange unused skills...

0ô —ZerphaThe Improver 02:19, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

the name of that skill is awesome --Cursed Angel 02:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

indeed. and i suppose that it's some sort of "active" skill, like Undead Sensitivity to Light. This will become a great looking atricle. i mean, the heading :D —ZerphaThe Improver 02:24, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

haha yah, and all titans are male :D --Cursed Angel 02:26, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

ok, that's the last one for today xD that even tops the previous! i like especially the ending on this one. —ZerphaThe Improver 02:29, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

oh lol the effect was so lame that they added a "that's it" in the skill description :D --Cursed Angel 02:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

AWESOME! XD - Y0_ich_halt 10:32, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks for removing removed skills from the skills lists, that was really hard for me to see them all together : ) lussh 19:36, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

np. if i wouldn't have done it, another one would sooner or later ;) —ZerphaThe Improver 19:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

In case you weren't aware of it, costal exam is the old beta name of what became the Divinity Coast mission. Backsword 08:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

ok thanks, that makes sense, i supposed something quite similar. (I thought the Divinity Coast mission was only a primary quest at first. Maybe they changed it to a mission because you are teleported into the Maguuma Jungle afterwards...though there are many primary quest that teleport oneself to a new outpost when talking to npcs) —ZerphaThe Improver 11:54, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

"That's it." xD - anja 12:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

My overfilled screenshot folder

Well, it consumes about 1,75GB and i have to transfer the data on the main pc temporarily to my laptop, as we will get a new harddrive. But the lap can't save that much data, so i decided to create a Photobucket account and tried to upload them there. This would have taken hours, so i think i'll just have to say good bye to most of the screens.^^ —ZerphaThe Improver 23:01, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Convert them to jpgs? --Lemming 23:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

the problem is, most of them are already .jpg files, but those are about 1,500 files :P —ZerphaThe Improver 23:15, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Burn them to a CD/DVD or copy to an inexpensive flash drive? --Lemming 23:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

oh, good idea i'll simply burn them to a CD^^ —ZerphaThe Improver 23:18, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) You can eaisly get a 1 to 2 GB flash drive. I was going to say at your local walmart, but then i realized I do not know if he has walmart there :P --Shadowphoenix 23:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

i can't remember where zerpha lives, but at least 40km around my home, there's no single walmart. three (or more?) weeks ago lidl sold 2gb sticks for 11 euro a piece. - Y0_ich_halt 00:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks again for your tips, but i didn't want to fill a usb stick with that (i could have likely purchased one in a media markt i suppose), but now simply burned most of them to a CD. —ZerphaThe Improver 12:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Category tree

Would you mind if I added Category:Unique axe icons to Category:Axe icons also, so it's a subcategory? (And similar with the rest of the categories) - anja 19:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

do i even have a say in that matter?^^ for sure i don't mind, good idea. Actually, i wanted to ask you if we should possibly also make Category:Unique weapon icons to a subcategory of Category:Weapon icons, as you suggested it. I wanted to do it at first, but then hesitated doing it, as it would be listed between the specific (non-unique) weapon type's icons, what appeared wrong to me. —ZerphaThe Improver 19:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, yes you do. You seem to be the inventory icon master :P
Yea, I thought about it being listed weirdly in Weapon icons. We'll see if someone else has a comment :P - anja 19:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

jup. :) and while talking about listing: i just noticed that the subcategories of Category:Unique weapon icons are all shown at "U", i'll try to fix that. —ZerphaThe Improver 19:29, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Unused skill icons

Hey Zerpha i'm sorry im such a little n00blet but I can't download the one image from your gallery I wanted so what would happen if: I went to the upload log (for one of these) and just copied and pasted User_Zerpha_The_Improver_skill_icons_unused_Me4.png‎ into the upload form? would it work or just majorly screw your image up?--The Forsaken One 20:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

The problem is the diffrent image type. Skills are normally uploaded as .jpg files, i uploaded those as .png files. You could either download the icons, and save them again as .jpg file, then upload them again; or you could add an "image" parameter to the skill icon box...oh wait, i see. You already tried to do it with a parameter, but you used the wrong word:

{{User skill infobox
|name= Transfuse Hexes
|profession= Mesmer
|attribute= Domination
|user= The Forsaken One
|icon= [[Image:The Forsaken One Transfuse Hexes.jpg]]

The template doesn't know what to do with "icon", but if you change this line to "image", then it will work. In case you want to use one of the icons from my list, something like:

{{User skill infobox
|name= Transfuse Hexes
|profession= Mesmer
|attribute= Domination
|user= The Forsaken One
|image = [[Image:User Zerpha The Improver skill icons unused Me9.png]]

—ZerphaThe Improver 20:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

sry, nvmd, just noticed you used {{User skill infobox}}, not {{skill infobox}}, then you actually used the right parameter...yet it doesn't seem to work, strage... —ZerphaThe Improver 20:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

hmmmm I can't figure out how to download the icons, I mean normally images have up at the top a link to download them but where that normally is it just says the name of your image so idk--The Forsaken One 20:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

i normally download them by going directly to the images page (e.g. Image:User_Zerpha_The_Improver_skill_icons_unused_Me9.png), right-click on the icon and save them by clicking on the fourth line ("Save image as").

btw, the template doesn't work with .png files at the moment, as the image name is made diffrent in this template

[[Image:User {{{user|unknown username}}} {{{name}}}.jpg]]

The name is changed only in seperate words, once by the user and once by the name parameter. So we either have to ask whether we may change the template or, as you already tried to, download the icons and re-upload them with according name —ZerphaThe Improver 20:22, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

OHHHH I didn't try clicking the "Save as" button! I'll try that and see if it works (I don't think it's worth asking somebody to change it) --The Forsaken One 20:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

well i don't think it'd be a problem :P —ZerphaThe Improver 20:45, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Eh, oh well it looks like I fixed it, thanks--The Forsaken One 20:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) I see, it worked now^^ ok that's also a solution. —ZerphaThe Improver 20:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Assassin traps

where the hell did you find those descriptions? o.o - Y0_ich_halt 20:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

you must know, I'm a haxx0r. ;) —ZerphaThe Improver 20:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Smurf helped me out. :) You may noticed that Smurf added almost all concise descriptions to the skills. That must have been more than 1000 skills. Anet seemingly run a program to add the concise descriptions automatically, poor Smurf had to type every single description seperately. (Idk why Anet actually not also simply ran Bot to add those descriptions to the Wiki as well. I mean, it's the official wiki with Anet members also contributing here...) Whoops, i'm flying off from the subject. :P Uhm well. When i saw Smurf also added concise descriptions to Snow Fighting skills, i started wondering how he was able to do so. I saw those thing by using Cheat Engine. (That program has at some point indeed a hacking-touch^^) From this point on, his talk section, or especially his guide he made should clearify this. :) —ZerphaThe Improver 20:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

gw.dat

you just need that header, don't you? - Y0_ich_halt 20:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

LMAO

xD rofl —ZerphaThe Improver 20:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC), 21:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Elections

A few quick questions before the elections get here (I am going to try to ask each sysop and users, who imo deserve it, these questions):

1. If you were nominated would you accept?
   
2. If so, Do you believe that you would make a good bcrat?
   
3. Would you be able to make wise choices when it comes to selecting administrators?
   
4. Would you be sure to explain your actions when using your powers as a bcrat?
   
5. Would you wear you status as a bcrat as a badge?
   
6. Would you consider policy before taking any and all actions?
   
7. How do feel towards our wikis community?
   

That should be enough. Thanks! --Shadowphoenix 22:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

wow, I feel really honoured that you picked me and think i deserve this status :) Here are my answers:

1. No. However, I'll answer to the remaining questions.
2. Actually no, for the reason that i don't think i have high enough programing knowledge. Additionally, i don't know whether i could keep my current activity.
3. As you possibly noticed, i did not contribute to many elections yet, as i think i don't know enough about most user's or their edits to make fair decisions.
4. The special tools themselves would be handy, and i normally wouldn't do anything inconsiderated with them, so i likely would be able to do so in most cases.
5. I'd be proud of having this status, but i wouldn't boast with it.
6. I don't know about all policies, especially minute details. It could sometimes occur that i break a couple of them.
7. I couldn't mind any users that were especially unfriendly towards me. For sure, there are always people one cannot like that much, but i'd rate the community as a kind, funny and helpful one.
   

—ZerphaThe Improver 12:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Accelerated Growth

I wonder about the icon for Accelerated Growth, because in my browsing through the DAT I've found an icon that is essentially the same, except the person in the icon has rotting/decaying skin. I would assume that the "clean" version might have been a Chinese version of the icon that was made before it was eventually removed. Would it be possible for you to check the skill in-game to make sure the icon is correct?
And a side-by-side comparison of the icons. | Sounds Risky | 08:39, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

indeed, i noticed that my icon is the wrong one. I'm glad you have the "skletral" version, as that is icon is actually used ingame. (I also tagged the icon with {{image update}}, suppose you didn't notice this because of the redirect.) Feel free to upload yours. :) —ZerphaThe Improver 11:35, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I knew I should have looked further! Great, I'll upload the correct one once I start putting up the new Ritualist icons. | Sounds Risky | 17:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

ingame? - Y0_ich_halt 21:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

huh? —ZerphaThe Improver 16:13, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

you're talking about "actually used ingame", but i've never seen this icon anywhere. - Y0_ich_halt 16:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

ah, now i get it, you are talking about note at my unused skill icons list. Oh sry, you're talking about my first comment here :P Yeah, right. The wording is a bit dumb, as you can't actually see any of these icons ingame. But they would be brighter if you could see them (and you can, by using Cheat Engine). —ZerphaThe Improver 16:31, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Just going to add this here, but you've just put up a new page,Unknown (Disguise), and mention that the skill was apparently put in around the same time as Party Time!. Is the skill's icon that of a silhouetted person drinking a tonic against a purple background? | Sounds Risky | 18:53, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

exactly :P (this time i even saved the image with the (as you called it) "Save for Web & Devices function", so it should exactly look as if you'd have uploaded it.) —ZerphaThe Improver 18:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Skill/Effect Icons

Help me here. What file type are skill/effect icons? Like, if I was looking for the icon for Barrage, what file type would it be? ATEXDXT1? ATEXDXT3? Something else? Calor 22:53, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

According to the 12th comment, it's ATEXDXTL. I don't know the types by heart, but i could remember that someone already asked this question once. Seemingly even you ;) —ZerphaThe Improver 07:48, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Calor 16:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

mad king userbox

I seariously do not care about image of the userbox - that's all lol --Grethort 15:32, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

third year minipets

as u know how gw.dat works is this the third year minipets? --Cursed Angel 14:47, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

if it is, we'll get black beast of aarrrgh! :D - Y0_ich_halt 15:07, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Based on that image that would mean:

Miniature Abyssalz, Miniature Black Beast of Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh, Miniature Freezie, Miniature Irukandji, Miniature Mad King Thorne, Miniature Forest Minotaur, Miniature Mursaat, Miniature Norn Bear, Miniature Ooze, Miniature Raptor, Miniature Roaring Ether, Miniature Cloud Touched Simian, Miniature Cave Spider.

I have tried to link to the majority of the articles for the full-size creature/NPC but some of them I couldn't find. --Kakarot 15:11, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Armored Cave Spider, Abyssal and i guess how norn npcs looks like under Bear Form --Cursed Angel 15:21, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

More like the evil Nornbear.--Pyron Sy 16:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Funny how I missed some of the more obvious ones of the three, Abyssal being the main one. I miss having the auto suggestion feature of Ajaxifier :( --Kakarot 16:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Wow, great found, Cursed! :D embarrassingly i once tried to run a hex editor to be able to read the text files as well, but it didn't work :P

I have to excuse me, i don't know more about gw.dat and the minis than you do, their icons will also not appear in gw.dat until one saw them ingame, which isn't the case yet...

we could possibly try to change one of the images in the inventory with Cheat Engine as one can do with skill icons. (But I already tried that once and didn't succeed :/)

Finally my comment on the minis: great list :D yet idk why they are going to add a reskinned Miniature Greased Lightning and a Miniature Aatxe instead of new models —ZerphaThe Improver 17:36, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Why does it just say White Rabbit at the end? is like Black moa chick? if so i bloody want a bunny! -- Salome 15:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Nice catch. Either you are right, and this one uses a unique model as well, or it's an EotN rabbit, as those are more or less white, yet they aren't really big, so maybe it's just named "White Rabbit" as this miniature uses the original size of the actual model? —ZerphaThe Improver 15:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeh im thinking its not actually mini,as in its just a wee rabbit which can run about with you, kinda like the black moa chick. I'm guessing that's the green for 3rd year mini's, if so I REALLY want one!!!! -- Salome 15:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

The list is most likely correct... —ZerphaThe Improver 02:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

mad king, freezie, the ooze and the roaring ether were on gailes miniature guess list :D oh and after i saw the spider it's kinda confirmed... except for the rabbit. --Cursed Angel 19:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict x2) except what ;)? —ZerphaThe Improver 19:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

btw, as the list mentions this mini as "White Rabbit" only, i bet this image will get moved to soon.^^ —ZerphaThe Improver 19:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

i really want a rabbit and black beast of arghhhhh, sucks theyre like the next hardest to get and ill have to wait like 2-3 months :/ --Cursed Angel 22:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

2-3 only? my second char got his second year pet one moth ago only. i'll have to wait about 10 months before i'll get one D: ...and that means, if i want to get a mini glint, i'll likely have to wait at least one more year. >.< (I suppose they'll repeat the minipet chain from the 1st annul series on again someday, but now there are still enough cool models that could be prepared for a new annul series) —ZerphaThe Improver 23:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

19px bug test

wtf? why is is the Tormented Focus icon invisible if scaled down to 19px? —ZerphaThe Improver 20:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

meh, still invisible after having saved the page, i'll leave a note on Guild Wars Wiki:Reporting wiki bugs —ZerphaThe Improver 20:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

lol...a preview bug GREAT! ~.~ --Dominator Matrix 20:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

huh? 0ô wait, now i can see them. weird —ZerphaThe Improver 20:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

files

Ok since you do a lot with the .dat file, what is the .tmp file?--The Forsaken One 19:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Never mix up quality with quantity. ;) Do you refer to gw.tmp? I don't exactly know what it does, but i suppose it to temporary saves some information that does not get added to gw.dat for some reason. It has 0kb, and seems to get in use when running GW, as the "last used" notice gets updated then. Though you can open it while playing, so this presumption could be wrong, ir it doesn't seem to be at least permanently in use. —ZerphaThe Improver 12:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm a fan

I noticed you fixed the page for The Frog (miniature) to have a capital "t" in "The." I had quite a lively discussion with a bunch of knowledgeable people about that very subject. Many felt that the "The" capitalization isn't warranted, but dang, it just didn't seem right without it! (Plus, I could see a certain amphibian kicking up a fuss about it, for who knows his name better than he?) Anyway, I relayed his firm position that in the end, it was, is, and evermore shall be, The Frog. Thanks for making that fix, and pointing out the rightness of it. :) --- Gaile 02:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem, I wasn't aware that there's so much trouble about it. I don't know what arguments these people brought up. Maybe because it's an article? The miniature itself is named "The Frog" and not "Miniature The Frog" for example, because that would have been bad grammar. On the other side, the miniature wasn't named "Miniature Frog" on purpose, as the article is simply part of his name. As i supposed the minorcase t to be a little mistake, i changed it as i thought (like mentioned in the summary of this edit) "The Frog" is a proper name with capital t, as "Prince Rurik" is is a proper name with capital p. Since The Frog himself doesn't care about it, the current spelling in the article seems to be right.

(A last question: to what refers the headline? capitalization?) —ZerphaThe Improver 12:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

hey hey

hey hey matey, are you any good with wiki coding matey? as im stumped with something at the moment. -- Salome 15:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'd call it some sort of basic knowledge for "most necessary things". I can detect a couple of things in a "semi-complex" wiki text or template...(using "trial and error" can also sometimes be helpful) But i have to pass on such things like Galil's monobook.js, or why i get poke's guild wars wiki tools for having typed that stuff in my [User:Zerpha_The_Improver/monobook.js|monobook.js]], or Galil's monobook.js.

But maybe i can help, where's the problem? —ZerphaThe Improver 16:16, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

The problem is this page: User:Salome/Skill_Capture, i want the wee progression bars to be in the centre of the relevant boxes which ive managed to workout how to do, however it all looks fine at 100% complete progression, but the problem shows itself at anything under that. For some reason if i centre the prgression bar the progressions inside the bar itself no longer goes from left to right. I know this all sounds very confusing but if you go down to the Faction's skill,s you'll see what i mean easily. For the life of me i cant work out how to get the progression boxes to work normally, while keeping them centred in the relevant boxes. -- Salome 16:24, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

<center> seemingly adjusts the entire coding in {{Progress bar}} to the middle, including the "progress bar padding". I first tried it by removing <center> and adding the progress bar in a new line with valign="center;" instead of valign="top;". But i didn't get both the progress bar and the "class headline" into one nice looking box... So replaced <center> with <span valign="center;"> instead, and...uhm, it kinda worked. I have no idea why it works when using span, but well, the main thing is it works now, isn't it? As i said, idk that much, but trial and error can proof helpful :P —ZerphaThe Improver 16:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Cheers mate ill go see how it looks and thanks loads! -- Salome 16:50, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Np, but the luck also had more or less a finger in the pie ^^' —ZerphaThe Improver 16:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm a right numpty,could you do me a huge favour and change a wee bit of the coding on my actual skill page for me, just so i can use what you stated above as ive tried it a few times now and i must be doing something wrong as its not centering for me, so im probably doing something idiotic knowing me. -- Salome 17:02, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

here you go —ZerphaThe Improver 17:08, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you kindly, you're a star! -- Salome 17:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

No need for exaggeration ;) I have the feeling of being overrated at times... ô.O —ZerphaThe Improver 17:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Support

Hey Zerpha, as my RFA has been successfully resolved I wanted to thank you for taking the time to support me :) --Kakarot 02:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Nobody seemingly came up with anything against you, so i already supposed that you will win. Congratualtions. —ZerphaThe Improver 12:35, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Deldrimor weapons..

..are all bows? :P - anja 15:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Lol copy and paste ftw! -- Brains12 \ Talk 15:42, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) yeah, i also noticed that. Salome already uploaded the deldrimor weapon renders very early, and possibly forgot that the .png files are normally used for icons. Risky then reuploaded the icons for those files, and likely also reuploaded the file for the Hornbow, Recurve Bow and Flatbow then to have all those files uniform.

But I thought about uploading the "missing" Recurve bow, Flatbow and Hornbow icons anyways, as i'm actually not a friend of these "common" icons that are used for several pages.

If we add the icons to the weapon template later, it'll be easier to have one icon for every specific page. I think we should delete images like Image:Gorgon focus.png and reupload it twice, once for every weapon.

In the image description could be mentioned other icons that share its appearance then.

Preceding like this will also be advantageous if we're going to create templates like {{Skill icon}} for those icons. —ZerphaThe Improver 15:47, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

That's also actually the reason why i moved the deldrimor icons from [[Category:Unique <weapon> icons]] to [[Category:<weapon> icons]]. I was going to upload them again as [[Image:<Deldrimor weapon name> (unique).png]] with [[Category:Unique <weapon> icons]]. —ZerphaThe Improver 15:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I think that's a good idea, and I agree with you. Simpler that way. Just remember to not copy-paste-save ;D - anja 16:00, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad you like the idea. To what exactly do you refer with "copy-paste-saving"? tbh, i really preceded like that when "moving" the category of the deldrimor icons. But what did i do wrong there? —ZerphaThe Improver 16:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, all icons ended up as "Bow icons" instead of scythe icons, dagger icons etc. :P - anja 16:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Oops! >.< Now i know to what you were actually refering with your first comment, Brain's also makes more sense now.^^' As you likely noticed, I thought you refered to the equal icons. —ZerphaThe Improver 16:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Confuzzlement

I'm confused by this edit. --Kakarot 17:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

article in terms of grammar ;) When i changed the design for Guild Wars Wiki:Projects/Inventory icons/Unique staves, i noticed that these two prophecies staves were the only ones of that kind without "The". Just take a look at this page, there are about 20 other staves with article. (e.g. The Lifegiver) —ZerphaThe Improver 17:21, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Told you I was confused lol, when I first saw it and also when I made this message I was thinking along the lines of if it doesn't exist how did you write that but I understand now. --Kakarot 17:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

yeah, i also noticed that this could possibly be mixed up with the article itself :P Though in the trivia section it's rather unlikely to refer to this. —ZerphaThe Improver 17:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

made a little edit. think that will help? - Y0_ich_halt 20:01, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

yeah that's nice i think, now it should be clear :) —ZerphaThe Improver 20:06, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Bundle Infobox

See you went ahead and made one. Well, there was no more comment's, but I thought some discussion of what people wanted to see was in order. Tho' I guess it's just as fine to do so on the templates talk. Backsword 23:48, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Well yeah, i did not know where i should suggest this template else, and as nobody seemingly was opposed to the idea, i created it. I also did not use the template anywhere until yet, in case someone has any proposals to change several parts. What do you think of it? —ZerphaThe Improver 23:59, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Yah, I'll take a look at it. One thing; we need to pick an avaialable colour scheme of Guild Wars Wiki:Formatting/Infoboxes. Looks like it's either palee pink of saturated pink. Yay. Backsword 00:02, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, that's what i searched for (as i knew there was something about colors for infoboxes). I didn't find it again, so i used the color used for weapons.

But as we have interactive objects in the category "Items" on this page, wouldn't it be better to create another orange color scheme instead (as i suppose bundles would be added to this section). Yet I also wouldn't mind if they became pink. —ZerphaThe Improver 00:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

You're right about the objects. That doesn't make much sense, really. I guess there are some who think of them as items, I recently removed a note on the powder keg station page stating that you couldn't put it in your inventory, which of course is true... True for Abaddon too.

It'd make sense to me to switch the object infobox to pink and use it's earlier colour for bundles. Backsword 01:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Picking up interactive obects, what a great idea.^^ - Yet exchanging the colors is indeed a nice idea, i think we can proceed like this. (To what exactly did you refer when speaking about Abaddon? I leaved through the articles history and couldn't find any note of him being an item or similar stuff.) —ZerphaThe Improver 01:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I like some of your stolen userboxes and found any away. ;P --Saxxon 17:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

question

where can i buy the mask on this armor? Ranger Fur-Lined armor --Cursed Angel 15:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

oh, no worries, it doesnt exist. shall we bother gaile or someone? --Cursed Angel 16:04, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

it's actually a good idea to ask someone from anet for that mask. Linsey Murdock should be nice for this i think, as according to Dancing Gnome's answer on the armor's talk page, and according to those existing gw.dat image files, it's seemingly only a bug that has not been fixed within three years. :D —ZerphaThe Improver 17:24, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Non-stackable items -> not stackable items

Why was Category:Non-stackable items moved to Category:Not stackable items? The latter doesn't really make sense. -- Brains12 \ Talk 20:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Template_talk:Item_infobox#Category:Stackable_items Aberrants proposal. His justification sounded reasonable, and i also felt it's better. Well, i should have possibly better asked someone else before preceeding, or waiting a longer time for an answer, sry. I changed the template and thought i could change the category as well when editing. —ZerphaThe Improver 20:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah I see, I wasn't aware of a discussion about it. I responded there. -- Brains12 \ Talk 20:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I heardz u were confused of Mudkipz?

It's from the most annoying youtube video EVER entitled I heard you like mudkips the insane edtition (or something like that). If you can watch the entire thing then you are a-God Walking Amongst Men lol.Xxx Corn Xxx 02:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

well yeah, that userbox is already on my page since a long period of time. To what this Mudkip box refers was clarified to me once. Auron seemingly refered to the ED article, but i also saw the youtube video about one month ago! xD I noticed the infinite loop after about 30 seconds first, after a while it get really annoying^^ Though thanks for your helpfulness. (Though actually, both the youtube video and the ED article speak about mudkips in singular, Santax changed it for some reason) Two last words: Mud. Kip. —ZerphaThe Improver 12:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Icon gallery category

Heya, I hope you agree with this addition. I was trying to find icons to use on a userpage, and got too frustrated trying to find them, so I thought it might be good to categorize the galleries.-- Wynthyst 19:51, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

yeah, that's nice so far. I'm not sure whether it's better to only include galleries that directly show the categories with icons, or to create main-categories for those lists with several icons, like the Category:Armor icon galleries. Well, i didn't immediately notice that, so i removed Category:Icon galleries from the two scroll sub-pages again and added Category:Scroll icon galleries to Category:Scroll icons.

Btw, at the moment i'm not sure whether the "consumable gallery" should be named "Category:Consumable icons" or "Category:Consumable item icons". I actually think the "item" is redundant, though aberrant meant it would be needed.

(Excuse me in case that response sounded unclear) —ZerphaThe Improver 20:00, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

no, it made sense. I was just trying to find a way to get all the icons viewable in a central location. We need to create an Images category box on Guild Wars Wiki:Categorical index to make all these different categories easier to find.-- Wynthyst 20:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

(At first i didn't suppose you'd still answer as you were busy categorizing the tango icons) Good idea, i didn't know about that page. We'll have to choose a good color for the new images box at first... —ZerphaThe Improver 20:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Should the images in Category:Key images be moved to Category:Key icons?-- Wynthyst 20:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Exactly ;) I didn't "move" the key images yet, but I wanted to tag it for deletition after having emptied it. (btw, Droknar's Key shouldn't actually be included here, and i'm unsure about the Zaishen Key as well.) —ZerphaThe Improver 21:00, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like a job for User:Wikichu :D I disagree about the Droknar's and Zaishen keys. While ithey are also in the Rewards trophy category, it ARE keys, so the images should be in both. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wynthyst (talk • contribs) at 21:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC).

(Edit conflict) Same with Category:Insignia images and Category:Rune images. Oh, and all those rune icons have actually a wrong naming (at least regarding the caps in their names) and should at best be completely reuploaded... —ZerphaThe Improver 21:07, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Good idea, "we" could actually run a bot to do this :P Regarding the image by categorization of its inventory item type, it shouldn't be included in Category:Key icons, but regarding the aspect for galleries, it should. —ZerphaThe Improver 21:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Keys have all been moved. I believe Category:Key images can be deleted now.-- Wynthyst 21:43, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I also created Category:Hero icons and moved all the hero icons from special images, and added the category to the icons used on Lensor's character template.-- Wynthyst 12:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and what about shades of blue for the image box on the category page?-- Wynthyst 12:02, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Yeah, I noticed that. But shouldn't those maybe categoized somewhere else, as this category normally includes inventory icons only? Oh, and blue should be nice for the icons. What sort of blue exactly? Baby-blue? —ZerphaThe Improver 12:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

How is Hero icons in conflict with inventory icons? Icons are icons... if you want them subcategorized differently, go for it. See my sandbox (at the bottom) for an example of an images category box. I would love to see a tree of the images categories.-- Wynthyst 12:16, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

A tree could be adviceable here, though idk how the design within that box could look like. The color appears a bit dark to me, maybe also because the contrast between the "blue/purple wiki-link color" is a bit small. :P (And I'll think about splitting the inventory icons and hero/profession icons up later.) —ZerphaThe Improver 12:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, I lightened it up, I'm just trying to stay away from the monk blues. I'll start a sandbox page for a tree listing of image categories, I'll give you a link if you would be so kind as to help fill it in, that will tell us how to layout the category box.-- Wynthyst 12:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Try this, it's just basic, but would be something to start with to get the categories all sorted and subbed properly.-- Wynthyst 12:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

regarding Category:ArenaNet images, it seems to be a unused proposal of categorization. Aren't all images, except for several user images or flag images, all of them ArenaNet images? Something like that? (I didn't include the inventory icon subcategories yet as well) —ZerphaThe Improver 13:14, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Like I said, mine was just basically to create a page for us to use, but since you have created one, I'll delete mine :P I really have no clue how the categories are organized, which is why I'd like to get a tree built.-- Wynthyst 13:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

yeah, Category:Images appears to be quite mixed up atm, we'll have to order it. —ZerphaThe Improver 13:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

another dead kitten

You should really stay away from mudkips D:Oni 06:17, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

no worries, i didn't kill any kitten, i asked you about mudkip_ only ;) —ZerphaThe Improver 11:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Luls ;'D Oni 14:42, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Some changes that are botable :D

I've asked poke if he can move some stuff around... starting with Category:Insignia images to Category:Insignia icons. He said he will get to it tomorrow, so if there are other things that you see need to be moved wholesale, you may want to add it to his talk page with mine.-- Wynthyst 16:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Some new icons for you

I have all 3 keys from Dasha Vestibule in my inventory atm. Let me know when you get online so I know what I need to do to get proper images for you.-- Wynthyst 06:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

ok, great :) All you have to do is to show the icons in the trade panel to me (see Guild Wars Wiki:Projects/Inventory icons/Contact) As you wrote your igns down on your userpage, i'll pm you as far as i'm online the next time and notice that you are as well. —ZerphaThe Improver 12:54, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm here if you are :P -- Wynthyst 15:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

When I was digging around in the .dat, I extracted all the polymock pieces I had as well, since I have had the ones you are missing, but I don't know what is what... -- Wynthyst 20:42, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Cool :) Identifying them shouldn't be the problem. Did you already take a look at Category:Polymock piece icons? —ZerphaThe Improver 20:46, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok.. Mantis Dreamweaver uploaded.-- Wynthyst 02:34, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Rickroll userbox

http://smouch.net/lol/ stopped rickrolling I believe. — ク Eloc 貢 01:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

wtf is that for a song? 0.ô That's not "Never Gonna Give You Up" —ZerphaThe Improver 01:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh? I didn't even notice there was a song, I got my speakers on my Zune right now. — ク Eloc 貢 01:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Lol, :p Oh and by the way, You asked me a couple of questions, and I answered em.. late. Enjoy :D Halogod35 12:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

ahh, the skills. Ok, i took a look at it, thanks :) —ZerphaThe Improver 13:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Icons project status

I think the non-uniques are quite complete now, missing some of the not-so-polular wintergreens, asian promotional weapons and PvP reward weapons which will be hard to get. Uniques are missing a lot but a fair number still do share the same undyed icon as the non-uniques so you can just upload over. However, I think most will require extraction with texmod <_<... Jennalee 09:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

yeah, since you uploaded most of the last missing icons now i thought about asking whether we could finally change the item template to show the icons - but for non-unique weapons only at first, as they (as you said) most often need a texmod extraction and hence still need most icons. Though there is for sure also a big amount of greens that use undyed versions of their skins and could hence be uploaded by using the GWDat extracts. But before changing the item infobox i'll have to split all the multiple-skin pages, at best according to the icons' disambigs. —ZerphaThe Improver 10:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

With the splitting, you could use the standardized names implemented for the the skins for PvP reward, since they are more official names but that might be quite confusing. Eg. for the crystal skin Earth Staff that Cynn uses, Crystallized Earth Staff. Jennalee 11:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that tip, i knew that we were actually geared at the pvp-reward skin names, but i forgot about that now :P As the PvP "Crystallized Earth Staff" and the "regular" weapon named "Earth Staff" with "core" skin are two seperate articles, we'll upload two icons, one for each page, so "finding the right icon" drops out. In case you refered to the confusion among the players looking at the disambig page, i also don't think it's a problem if we add a gallery to every skin, possibly with a little description. —ZerphaThe Improver 11:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

In the course of my trading, I get loads of greens to sell from guild/alliance, so if you need to do extractions on them point me to the page of what's missing and I will do my best to let you know when I have one.-- Wynthyst 04:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the majority of them are missing or need replacing because of transparency. Just take a look at the red links in pretty much all the uniques sections. I'm not sure how easy it is to extract via texmod, for this I'll be more able to take a look when I'm not quite so busy with projects/exams Jennalee 13:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, also, one more thing about the icons for the uniques... You'll be able to get two different icons for many of the Proph/Factions greens - one for the versions of the item which dropped before the dye update and retained their old color in both equipped appearance and in their icon and the versions which currently drop, post dye update. Both versions still exist ingame - no update changed them all to one appearance (eg. Zarnas' Wrath with brighter green it drops as now, darker green it previously dropped in) so they're not entirely historical. You might want to sort out the naming before any set of two versions are uploaded. Jennalee 15:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Are you sure? I have a Stonehart that used to have a red inventory icon for a long time. since an update dye is no more visible on Divine Symbols, and my stoneheart's inventory icon changed from red to blue. —ZerphaThe Improver 15:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the Proph greens but the Factions ones, yea there's definitely two colors for a lot of them. Also, doesn't that seem like a bug limited to focii? I can think of Strongroot's Shelter, Chkkr's Pincers, Shreader's Talons, Tahkayun's Pincers, as well which have two icons. Pic from old wiki showing the case for Zarnas' Wrath Jennalee 21:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, this problem with the stoneheart is possibly diffrent from these other unique weapons. You should possibly ask a question on Guild Wars Wiki talk:Formatting/Unique weapons, as it doesn't only affect the icons, but also the appearance of the weapons itself. I'd say we should show the newer versions after the color update primarily, though it's worth mentioning on all those unique weapons affected by the color change; you could maybe preferable leave a note on the Unique item page itself. —ZerphaThe Improver 22:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I think if two versions exist and both are still in circulation, that the color differences should be noted and documented in different icons and pics if possible, with the primary picture showing the version which currently drops. It is the wiki after all. Not really related to format but, IMO, the old versions for these with the colors from pre dye update were much nicer than the new ones :(. You want to ask for me?

PS: IMO dye not showing on unique focii is probably something to do mainly with unique focii, not just the Stonehart, I noticed a lot of the icons uploaded for unique focii which are known to be dyed but use the default undyed icon. Hmm.. Jennalee 12:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Then we should possibly report this as bug instead, as nobody seemingly identified this feature as one. Your idea about formatting the greens is also a possibility. But to find out whether the existent pictures use an old or a new version of the greens will be hard. —ZerphaThe Improver 12:33, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Nah, not that hard. There's usually pics of both versions floating around in the upload history of the old wiki, so you can just look and compare. For starters, I know the pic i uploaded for Strongroot's Shelter is the older version :p, I've been exceptionally lazy in getting the new one to screen :p Jennalee 23:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, i didn't know they reuploaded all those unique weapons with their new coloring there. Yeah, then it should be easier. —ZerphaThe Improver 00:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, not really, though I did have something to do with it sometimes <_<. It's just that new pics tend to show the newer vewsion but the older version will still be shown in an older pic. Jennalee 08:01, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Resign

Since the command is actually /resign, I would say redirect resignation to Resign instead of the other way around. --Shadowphoenix 23:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I thought about naming the page "resign" at first actually, then i thought what other articles we maintain use verbs and couldn't think of anyone, so i used the noun as main article. Idk who i'd have to ask for this, but in case my decision should have been wrong, feel free to move. —ZerphaThe Improver 23:03, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I am going to move it, I think that it is better suited to be resign since the command is /resign, but I will redirect the other page to resign --Shadowphoenix 23:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Why did you add del tag then? Couldn't you easily exchange the contents of the pages instead? Would also be a little bit less work for the sysops :P —ZerphaThe Improver 23:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

lol, yeah I suppose :D I just like giving the sysops a hard time :P lol jk--Shadowphoenix 23:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

k, i changed it for you (and for the sysops kinda) —ZerphaThe Improver 23:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

*walks in, looks at Shadow, writes on notepad and walks out* =P --Kakarot 23:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

*Goes to mark orphaned images* *whisper* hehe this should get on Kak's nerves big time *evil grin* --Shadowphoenix 16:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Obscure Monks Foremost Guild (Obscure Monks Alliance)

Thanks for leaving the comment, Why dont you grab a spare account and make a Monk? ~The Template ( —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 08.79.68.226 (talk • contribs) at 20:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC). )

No problem, but i have to apologize as i already have a monk, no storage account, and no urging need of participating. Though thanks for the proposal. —ZerphaThe Improver 22:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Stackable/Not Stackable

Since the parameter in the item infobox is set to default to Category:Stackable, I went through (with some assistance from Kakarot) and added the Not Stackable parameter to all those I was sure didn't stack (runes/weapon upgrades/kits). There are a large number of the quest items that I believe are also not stackable, but without acquiring multiples of them I can't prove it. -- Wynthyst 04:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, good idea actually, i forgot to change the parameter for those item types. I also know that there are several quest items out there that are for some reason not stackable. There is one that comes into my mind now as you get automatically three of them, but you're right, finding out which ones are not will be difficult as you get most often only one item. I personally would prefer an update from Anet that simply makes all quest items stackable, than this point would drop out. ;) —ZerphaThe Improver 08:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

The Elonian mirrors... from the Homeless quest. :D-- Wynthyst 21:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

yeah. According to your contribs you had some more in your mind.^^ —ZerphaThe Improver 21:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Canthan

I come from Cantha, with a capital letter, thus I am Canthan. <- proper noun :P -- Brains12 \ talk 20:38, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm yeah, if you refer to the person and use the word as a noun. But if used as a adjective, it's used with a minorcase "c". —ZerphaThe Improver 20:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Canthan not a proper noun? Cantha is the name of their country, Canthan is their nationality.-- Wynthyst 20:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

So what you are saying is that British flag, is incorrect... that you would write british flag?-- Wynthyst 20:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) sure? I mean, isn't something like "american burger" also written in minorcase? —ZerphaThe Improver 20:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, i would write "british flag" >.< So a capital letter was right? Bad...very bad ;( —ZerphaThe Improver 20:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I was always taught that nationalities were capitalized as a form of respect. -- Wynthyst 20:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, ok... I thought minorcase would have been right, but it wouldn't have bothered anyone having several articles with wrong capitalization. (When i split up the Earth Staff article i used minorcase disambigs and nobody said something, so i didn't suppose i did anything wrong. Suppose i have to move all these pictures again and remove the deletition tags from still existing images... —ZerphaThe Improver 20:56, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

And does anyone know whether "core" counts as a proper noun or not? Normally it isn't, but in guild wars it's at least a special term. —ZerphaThe Improver 21:11, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Dunno, usually not Jennalee 12:19, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

lowerminorcase probably. Calor 18:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, i'll write "core" disambigs in minorcase then in case it's needed again. But i'll wait for an answer on the weapons formatting talk before i go ahead and change the other disambigs back to upper case again. —ZerphaThe Improver 18:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Special:Mostlinked

Horrah, you are almost in the top 50! — ク Eloc 貢 05:51, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

yay, 32 links to go! And you're on the best way to the top 30! —ZerphaThe Improver 12:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

grats! --Cursed Angel 01:40, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

thx. Do i actually get a cookie after reaching the top 50? 0-ô —ZerphaThe Improver 02:03, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

you can have a cookie now ^^ :P Fall 02:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! —ZerphaThe Improver 02:07, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Fuck, why didn't I get a cookie. lol — ク Eloc 貢 23:42, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

No Glitter Mod

Hey Zerpha. I've been using your no glitter mod to take bundle screenshots, but I just came across something that did not have the glitter removed. It was the Repair Kit. Any idea why not? Mohnzh say what? 18:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Glad to hear :) Well, my mod simply replaces the glitter-causing picture for a black one (black is transperent there). If it still isn't invisible, this one possibly uses another image. Maybe i am just imaging it, but isn't the glitter on the kit's picture slightly diffrent from the regular one? —ZerphaThe Improver 20:15, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Might be because it was used? Treesbyty 12:28, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Random Question

Would you happen to know a program that will allow me to use the gw.dat? I came to you because you seem to be the one who helps the most on this Wiki. Treesbyty 11:45, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, i wouldn't say the most, but i'll try help if i'm asked. :) I was asked about that already several times (or rather about "GWDatBrowser" and how to get it, as that's the porgram i always used.) Though i recently found an entire wiki for such programs, with another possibly useful program for doing this. (But I installed it and it doesn't work yet. According to the readme file i'd have to know a bit about command line programs, which isn't the case. :P) —ZerphaThe Improver 12:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, Thanks! Treesbyty 14:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to add on, but would this be helpful for extracting images [1]? Treesbyty 14:17, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

No problem, as this comment was anyways rather an advice than another question i suppose.^^ This one could possibly also proof useful as the description says it can also extract .png files, which is seemingly used for the images in gw.dat. I think that wiki would have more such useful programs, though most of them appear to be started with Command Prompt, and i am to stupid to figure out how to use it. (it tells me something about syntrax error when i try to type those files' addresses into it).
Oh and btw, if you want to give your link a specific name in the wiki, you can do so by typing
[<adress> <your name for the link>]
(with space after adress instead of a bar for normal wiki links). —ZerphaThe Improver 18:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Hai2u

Since you seem to be positively active on the balance page, and since I want input from as much people as possible, go here nao! -- NUKLEAR IIV 14:31, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

What's up?

I'd like to say hi, and while I'm here I want to thank you for your contributions for GWW and helping me off on some discussion pages. Ninjas In The Sky 17:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Suppose you refer to Talk:Poison? Or was there more than only this one? Can't remember anything else atm, though i saw your name every now and then in the last time. :P —ZerphaThe Improver 13:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Nah I remember we had a conversation (a really small one) once, I don't remember wut it was about. Ninjas In The Sky 14:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Thx

Thanks for the advice. I need all i can get Renuro Seru talk 21:04, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok. You might want to Archive some of this page. I get a warning saying the page is getting large — Renuro Seru Talk 17:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

yeah thanks for this adivice, i was going to do so. (Though you most often don't get this message if you directly click on the dependent talk section on the TOC (table of contents) to get to the right secion and then click "edit" on the right. Like this you will only get this section to see instead of the entire page.) —ZerphaThe Improver 20:18, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Weapon Icons

As it appears to have been missed and Poke mentioned you, can you have a look at this message, thanks :) --Kakarot 17:14, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

thanks for pointing that out, i'll have a look at it ofc. —ZerphaThe Improver 20:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

First!

after archive - Y0_ich_halt 17:56, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

doesn't have the same effect as on a clean one...--Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 18:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

but he doesn't clean T-T - Y0_ich_halt 19:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

There might be a reason... - anja 19:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Argh, now we cannot even be save from these more and more cheekier growing first-posters even though pages are intensively not left clean after archiving >.< Fortunately this deed was seemingly only a desperate act in order to satisfy the inner urge of spamming after failing to find clean archived talk pages. —ZerphaThe Improver 20:32, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

it was a reflexe to "archiving" in an edit summary. - Y0_ich_halt 21:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

reflexivie? you mean you just made it unknowingly without the possibility to let your brain have a look at this edit? Now i'm worried. —ZerphaThe Improver 22:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

there's an easy way to find out about that. repeat. - Y0_ich_halt 22:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)