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new raptors?

is this guy bad enough to be the new raptors? — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 15:25, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Nope shard is a really good player, most of his comments tend to be true. Fall 15:28, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah but did you read all of this? — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 15:32, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
do note I said *most* ^^ Fall 15:32, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I just plain don't like him and i think he might drive up the wiki drama :\ Just look at his "skill of the day" — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 15:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
u probably wasn't even around when raptors was here so just drop it, also if u dislike shard keep it to urself. btw, zerpha take a look at my shaman profession when u have time ^ ^ --Cursed Angel talk 15:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict x2) i agree with you seru that he has a very "drastic" method of spaking his mind, but i also agree with fall. and he appearas graver than raptors to me. Never saw him using smileys. :o —ZerphatalkThe Improver 15:50, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
oh yeah and Cursed, i already did :) i can remember SP started a "create your profession" project once, suppose that's your bit towards it? —ZerphatalkThe Improver 15:50, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
yah, I just lack ideas atm :/ --Cursed Angel talk 16:04, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


I know way back when we talked about needing a category tree for the Images, well, I've done this The red ones are ones I think need to be added for consistency. I did the same for the Guild namespace categories, so I figured I'd do this one too. If you think it's worthwhile to keep (which I definitely do) I will move it to someplace more appropriate than my sandbox.--Wyn's Talk page Wyn 15:43, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Could you add cinematic under screenshots as well? — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 15:46, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
This is the category tree of the primary images category. If you wish to add a subcategory to it, you just need to, you don't seem to have a problem adding a gazillion categories for userboxes. There is no reason to ask me, I'm just documenting what is there, and sharing it with Zerpha, since he's so heavily involved with the images.--Wyn's Talk page Wyn 15:49, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I don't add a category for every userbox :). — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 15:54, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, for those you do, you need to add them as subcategories of Category:Users :P --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 16:01, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
You want me to do that for all the userbox categories? Since im addicted to userboxes <3Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 16:04, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
It would help to clean up the overall category tree, so sure, if you wish to take it on, go for it :D--Wyn's Talk page Wyn 16:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict x4) :P That's a great table, well done :) I also like seru's idea. It could become a sub-category of the screenshots like the loading screens. Btw, as you double-tagged "unique <item type> image"-categories, could you possibly also put some of the map images into the screenshot category? The problem here is that some of them aren't screenshots...(e.g. gw.dat extracts, or TyriaMap2.jpg) Oh, and you accidentally added the icon galleries twice. :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
whoops... icon galleries <--> item galleriesZerphatalkThe Improver 16:16, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
As I told Seru, I simply documented the current category structure, so the Unique weapons categories show up twice because they are not only in the Unique weapons, but also subcategorized under each weapon category. I'm hoping that seeing it in a structured format might help to clean it up, and also to give people a better idea of how to categorize things. I'm also looking into the mediawiki extension for category trees, thinking it might prove useful in cleaning up and maintaining all the categories we have. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 16:39, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
alright —ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:42, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Also, the icon galleries are not technically galleries, so I believe they are miscategorized, but my brain is starting to spin.--Wyn's Talk page Wyn 16:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, the icon "galleries" currently always show the according icon sub-categories which include / show the images. It's at some parts a bit stupid as these categories both include subcategories and icons (those which don't have a subcategory), e.g. Category:Skill tome icons. The actual reason for this was that i couldn't find a good name for the "regular" tomes here tbh :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:48, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I understand, I'm just saying that there is a difference between the categories that actually have gallery pages i.e. the weapons galleries, and the categories that just contain images that due to the way media wiki works, display as galleries.--Wyn's Talk page Wyn 16:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah i know what you mean. For this reason i also wondered about these "galleries" ât first when you created them. my previous comment was rather redundant, huh? :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok, so I just realized I completely missed the subcategories of Category:Inventory icons and have gone in and added them. I'm thinking that the stuff in Category:Icon galleries needs to be in Category:Inventory icons only, and not in the galleries category, unless there are actual gallery pages created.--Wyn's Talk page Wyn 17:37, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, i also think so. The galleries should better be created like the weapon galleries: Normal page named "Gallery of <inventory item type>". —ZerphatalkThe Improver 11:56, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

German wiki - ideas borrowing

So like, somehow one day, I managed to stumble upon the article for the Tormented Staff on the German wiki and thought how really cool and awesome it would be to also have animated gifs here and also liked how the icons were implemented on a weapons page. I figured maybe I should tentatively ask you if you could ask if some of those could be added here, maybe also ask Flece nicely if we could host more of their lovely pics? :P Jennalee 14:40, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

The licensing will prohibit copying of content there to here, unless you manage to get the contributors themselves to declare their contributions to be licensed under GFDL. -- User Sig.png 15:08, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
The screenshots are under ArenaNet copyright (not GFDL/CC-by-nc-sa), surely? Asking them for those images would only be a nicety rather than a necessity if that's the case. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 15:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
People with low RAM are gonna hate us if we do this and/or skill sounds. Calor Talk 13:36, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Gifs are only slow when you are still loading them, there isn't much to do inside of the RAM to display a gif.. Also I suggest we make animation links as we did before, so they don't load always when you go on that page. poke | talk 20:10, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, all gifs in Category:ArenaNet video sequences are not directly imbedded into the pages, right? But getting the images at first could be the bigger problem. I'm not sure whether we are allowed to do's property of arenanet, but isn't the animation still the german wiki's contributor's work, though? I can remember that they weren't pleased about the idea of leaving the images rendered by them to GWW, as they argued they wouldn't be taken seriously by us.
Martin Kerstein asked the German wiki about creating a German GWW. As we (the admins of the German wiki) did not like the idea of starting from zero with a rather lazy German wiki community, we asked Martin Kerstein about the paragraph in the user agreement which states that all game-related stuff created by the players is owned by ArenaNet. He asked Emily Diehl about this. She said, that it is not possible to transfer the German wiki to GWW due to license issues and they will start a GWW from zero. This was on March 19th this year, since then nothing happened. --numma_cway 13:01, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
(That's a rather belated answer. :P) Too bad that this doesn't/didn't work, though. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 19:01, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Jennalee: i also like how they included the icon in their infoboxes, yet our design is slightly different and uses smaller screenshots, thus not always leaving enough space for icons on the right next to the text. Yet i know where we could place them: As they have transperent background, putting them into right upper edge of the infobox should look nice. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 09:28, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
problem is, that screws up the wiki tools on the left and shrinks the navigation at the top--Sum Mesmer GuyTalk to me NOW!! DO IT! contribs 10:11, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
That is just because Zerpha failed a bit :P (fixed) poke | talk 11:16, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking you could have them at the bottom of the infobox, where say, a map would go, with a white background and the same orange border. Still, no way you could implement the icons in the navboxes? Don't they resize to a certain extent? I mean, your tonics navbox has the icons in a miniature format. Jennalee 12:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Tormented weapons
Tormented Axe.png
Tormented Sword.png
Tormented Maul.png
Tormented Shield.png
Tormented Flatbow.png
Tormented Hornbow.png
Tormented Longbow.png
Tormented Recurve Bow.png
Recurve Bow
Tormented Shortbow.png
Tormented Staff.png
Tormented Scepter.png
Tormented Focus.png
Tormented Daggers.png
Tormented Scythe.png
Tormented Spear.png

:P maybe a bit fat but doable... Jennalee 13:34, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Maybe half the size would work. i changed em all to 32pxSeru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 14:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
No, 64px is standard. Two rows? Calor Talk 16:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Nevermind, it looks fine on one row at 64px. Calor Talk 16:12, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
That nav in this section has them all at 32px — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 17:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
64px made them take up too much space :\ at least to me it looked that way. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 17:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
It was less than the width of the page, so it should be fine unless your resolution is less than (roughly) 1200 x 700. Calor Talk 17:30, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Just because it fits doesnt mean it seems bulky. Notice that all other navs only user 19px images in front of the names — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 17:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Actually, at full size, it need to scroll sideways if you set a low res. Even at 32px, it might still need to tho.
Soo... Icons on weapon pages, maybe try at the bottom a la polymock pieces? I could forsee then to the side of infos also if you let the image in the preview box be larger by default, say 250px. A lot of people seem to like making them bigger anyway. You would probably have to format all campaigns in a box and attributes by making them go down in columns by spacing them with breaks though. No chance of animated gifs from emily? <_<... I know piling on workload is bad but good animation showing has been sorely lacking, mostly bad youtube vids. Jennalee 22:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
I would like to throw my opinion in here, figure better late than never, but I really like the way the icons are used in the nav bars on the German wiki. I think it would be a good thing to incorporate on GWW. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 11:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Another unrelated note on nav bars, sometimes they link items only similar in name but aren't part of a "set" stylistically - eg. Runic weapons Jennalee 12:58, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
On animations from Emily: not at the moment; She will work first on the skill sounds project (and renderings of course).
On infobox changes: Maybe suggest that on the formatting page? poke | talk 20:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Zerpha's talkpage is more fun :p Jennalee 08:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm a bit out of order here I know, but meh, @Calor, my understanding was we try to optimize to 1024 x 768 which would make 64 too big, but I see no problem in making them smaller, the 'standard' upload size for them is 64, but that doesn't mean they have to be used at that size.--Wyn's Talk page Wyn 01:47, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
I like the size they're at on this page (32px) — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 01:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Here are some comparisons. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 01:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
48px looks best imo, though 32px would also be nice if the navbar should be kept as small as possible. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 07:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

On the subject of stealing things

Wow these gifs are sweet [1] though perhaps a bit demanding on user bandwidth when loading the pages. heh. --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 21:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

yes, but as mentioned, it shouldn't be a big problem if the gifs are not directly put into the page and can be viewed over redirect instead. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 14:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

oh noes

Ok i cant figure it out why is this page broken. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 01:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. -- Gordon Ecker 02:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Its screwing up somewhere. Its completely messing up the wiki page...I'll tinker around in my sandbox and see if there is a solution. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 03:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I think its the color codign in some of the userboxes. They used a #xxx format. That might be killing firefox o.O— Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 03:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Nope. I think I foudn the solution. Hang on, let me fix it up in my sandbox. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 03:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I checked your sandbox the version i saw still didnt fix it :\ I think one of those userboxes doesnt like being in the grid. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 03:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Huh, it looks just fine on opera :/. Ah well, worth a shot. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 03:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I have no idea what it is. I think it might just be the #xxx color coding. :\ Its really bothering me tho since i only saw that bad of a total page destroying code once b4. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 03:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
It's also showing up fine in K-Meleon, IE6 and IE7. -- Gordon Ecker 04:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Correction, it pushes down navigation, support, search and toolbox in IE7. -- Gordon Ecker 04:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah look at it now. Wandering didn't have all the right code — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 04:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
yes, that's weird. In IE7 the navigation on these two pages is placed beneath the categories for some reason, yet in ff it looks alright. I noticed that it only gets mixed up when you close the table, otherwise without {| there aren't any problems...but one of these boxes has to be responsible for this, though: My userpage for example is made up in the same way, but as soon as i add your userboxes from Wandering's sandbox, it's also mixed up. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 08:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
hmmm i made a bit trial and error and found out that {{User Kurzick2}} and {{User GvG}} are the troublemakers. Lookie, no problems without them... —ZerphatalkThe Improver 08:57, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I did the same and came uop with the same conclusion. Do no add extra divs to userbox templates. I removed them, and now it works. :) One had an open div style=float, which is a BIG nono :P - anja talk 09:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) kinda what you already said now^^)Anja and me fixed these now. They both started with <div style="float:left;"> for some reason... —ZerphatalkThe Improver 09:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


You kill me sometimes! <3 --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 10:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, i saw the pic, i saw the discussion on your page. I thought it's worth mentioning ;) —ZerphatalkThe Improver 11:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


:DSeru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 16:15, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Nice idea :) Thanks for including me in this list. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 18:23, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
np. Here is what they all look like. Tell me if you know anyone i should add to the list. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 18:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
poke maybe. he doesn't have a sig icon, yet his entire name could possibly suit into the left box. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 09:03, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
lol! poke | talk 18:23, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
I added poke :D — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 20:27, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Why are you changing my captions?

Taking quotes from the dialogue is much more appropriate imo than some generic description of the image. It ties them to the Cinematic. I wish you would at least discuss changing them first.--Wyn's Talk page Wyn 17:12, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry Wyn, i didn't notice that. I thought you'd have only chosen a generic header as you couldn't think of another one but wanted to replace the default naming for them. You may revert my edit for sure if you prefer your version. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
oh, you already did^^ now you changed it back without discussing the revert either. :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 21:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Could I?

Hi Zerpha, is it ok that I use your "inventory-project-icon" to make my page more pretty? If you have any objections I will replace it with another icon without hesitation (it's just that this is really the best :P). -- User Dewdrop Sig.pngPepper - Dewdrop talk 17:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Nah, i have no problem with it ofc. Glad you like the icon. Nice character page design btw :) (Idk whether i could even prevent you from using it.^^ I can't remember any rule giving property of according images or similar pages in the user namespace. but thanks for the politeness anyways.)ZerphatalkThe Improver 23:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I would of just used it :D — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 00:01, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Zerpa ;) And well the question is not if you can prevent me in this case, there is something like common sense and artistic property ;) It looked to me like you've made that icon yourself and since you are using it for a special project I thought I should ask you ;) -- User_talk:DewdropPepper - Dewdrop talk 09:09, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, thanks for that :)
Ironically, Seru, you did once the same politeness as Dewdrop^^ accordant to your comment here, you went ahead without the permission at first, but were persuaded afterwards and did not make use of the image, as the user requested.
Anyways, normally you can assume that nobody minds if you make use of a user's image. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 09:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah lol. i did use it but i took it down to avoid a wiki war :D I should have rights to use it tho since all images are GDFL or public. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 21:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
yeah, actually. But in this case this is property of the bunny-crew, you know... :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 21:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
meh lol — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 21:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Well that is actually why I asked it. Because you (Zerpha) could have said that it's a way to distinguish the people working on the project and since I'm not on that project I would have understood if you had objected for that reason and just would have used another image. -- User_talk:DewdropPepper - Dewdrop talk 08:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes, i am aware of that. But i don't think it's reasonable to say so. Creators of whatsoever should get rewarded for their work, but in my point of view, copyright-related things or similar property claims cause in most cases only redudant obstactles that hinder progress and comfort. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 13:53, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Hmm well I bet you'd feel different if someone would be earning money with your creation and in that way derived you from it ;) So yeah it hinders progress and comfort of the people that didn't create it maybe. I'm not talking about wiki stuff, just in general. Anyway, I just wanted to be polite and give you a chance to keep your creation for yourself...not start an economic discussion. So EOT for me ^^ -- User_talk:DewdropPepper - Dewdrop talk 14:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, that's all what a copyright should do: Prevent others from earning money with exactly your idea. But it causes most often more trouble...but well, if you want to end the discussion now, i'll stop now.^^ And i will try to keep your politeness in mind. ;) —ZerphatalkThe Improver 14:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Thanks for the sig image heads up. Resized and fixed. I just tacked this on here, for I didn't see the need to start a whole new thread for my unimportant rambling. :)--bella talk 22:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

user page

still that improvisory thing? change it already :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 19:47, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

i actually planned to change it a lot earlier, but time passed and passed...and the only thing that changed was my amount of userboxes. xD
i wanted to create a unique page design that doesn't look ugly, but i'm still unsure about the nav and all that stuff... —ZerphatalkThe Improver 19:57, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
use mine for inspiration :P if you are including a nav, the only question is: side bar or top bar nav? then decide upon two or three colors, make your nav and find a way to align it with the different parts of your user page. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 20:00, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
i couldn't think of anyone who uses a side bar with a design comparable to a top bar nav atm, though i'd also prefer a top bar nav. the colors is about the only thing i'm vaguely sure about^^ I once thought of making a user main page background with a shape of my elixir sig icon with span tags, but that'd likely be a mess to design, if it's even doable.^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:13, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
depends on how detailed you want the image to be ^^ if it's not too exact, you could use photoshop or some other program to get the average color code for an area and then use that with span. if it gets too big in code you could scrn it and upload the image instead :D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 20:21, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, using photoshop to get the icons colors might be a good idea, they are possibly better than those i currently use in my talk. Bud i'd have no idea how to code that, a 64x64px icon stretched multiple times would look uber pixeled, and i'm not managed enough to design it with photoshop-like programs either in order to create to some extent icons like those from cursed. ^^ but yeah, i don't necessarily need that elixir thing right now. i should focus on some other basic thoughts at first. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:32, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
You could use the colors we used for you in the Friend Box. Just dont use the ones from the box on this page. :D — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 20:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
I didn't plan to use mainly beige colors, rather purple :P but what's wrong with my color combinations above? Q.Q
well yeah, i'd have to use a brighter, rather glazing background color maybe. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:42, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
uargh, I'd prefer more restraint colors. those up there are rather bright, and i've always wondered how you can survive actually looking at that box (is always press pg down immediately after loading). - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 20:47, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
xD yeah, i also noticed that they are quite disturbing when i planned to use it as bg for the entire page, but in this little box i didn't really notice the dissonance others got bothered from. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:51, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

...*The image was removed*...

OMG! I am the first person to do this! Sorry I don't have a really cute pic to put up here for your birthday. When I get home from work I will do my best to make you one ^_~. Anyhow, happy birthday! I hope your having a good day. - Tesla User Tesla Teslasmallsig1.gif 15:21, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Hasppy Birthday! Hope you have a good one, despite your birthday being on a rather sad day. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 15:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Happy Birthday Zerpha! --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 15:45, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
<3<3<3 Happy Birthday Zerpha!! <3<3<3 --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 15:50, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
yeh happy birthday! heh, one of my friend's birthday is today too :D --Cursed Angel talk 15:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
omfg, so many ecs. happy bday zerpha! - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 16:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Happy Birthday Zerpha! I hope you're having a nice day! Long live Zerpha, hipperdepip hooray! ^^ -- User_talk:DewdropPepper - Dewdrop talk 16:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Much wub. -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 16:50, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Happy birthday!!!! -- User indochine dsk tree.png Indochine talk 18:32, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Happy birthday! calor (talk) 19:05, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Happy birthday, Zerpha! poke | talk 20:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Happy happy birthday! Festival Prize.png - anja talk 21:25, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Happy Birthday! — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 21:36, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Happy birthday wave go! Anyways, hope you have a wonderful time, everyday! To you and yours, Zerpha. We <3 you and love your work here. Another year, hope things get even better for you! --TalkAntioch 04:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Thank you guys :) —ZerphatalkThe Improver 13:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry it took me a bit to upload the image and all. I finally made what I thought would be kinda a cute way to say happy birthday. So this is for you Zerpha. ^_^
Happy Birthday!

P.s. - I used the earlier one to start off your topic, I promised I'd make you one when I got home. ^_^ It just took a while. I hope you like it. - Tesla User Tesla Teslasmallsig1.gif 14:12, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, thank you very much for your efforts! <3 Mangas —ZerphatalkThe Improver 14:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Happy belated BD. --Silverleaf User_talk:Silverleaf 17:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Happy belated Birthday Zerpha :) --Kakarot Talk 18:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
No problem ^_~ I love anime and manga myself. - Tesla User Tesla Teslasmallsig1.gif 18:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

German A-Net staff even slower than Flare Farming in Domain of Anguish (hardmode)

Yea, I was bored. And I like long titles. No, I don't like Kamigawa for that reason. But the Book Elemental. Normally I'd like to write longer sentences, too - but I'm bored so I don't, or do I? Anyway, I just noticed, you are Member of this german translation task force. Would you use your force? Or is there anything I can do? If it's this or that or even neither, please free me from endless boredom. Bowing to thine honorable dignity, my worthless greetings from Westfalia

Noctarch 03:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Wow. Now that was very random. xD Pretty creative title, lol. But what exactly was the intention of your comment? Asking for something you could do for the wiki, or any other ideas how you could pass your time? I didn't get it. But i noticed you apparently play MagicZerphatalkThe Improver 08:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
It was both. I like the idea of this Task Force though I doubt in some way that Martin works hard on resolving the mentioned problems. Do you know how to contact him in a way he does not neglect? Finally, my topic of being without duty; I'd like to do something in-game, something fantastic, something you rarely see and that could (<=could) be vanquishing with irregular profession tactics. Even after "finally"; Yea, I am crazy :P Noctarch 13:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Maybe pm him in Onlinewelten or start an according topic? It's a pity that these issues don't get fixed, yet i suppose he has something different to do at the moment. Oh, and gimmick builds ftw. :P Not always that useful for hm, though. And some skills are regrettably just useless... :/ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 18:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Of course mending is bad. But when you're build already involves long-lasting enchantments and you have way too much too much too (uh, should've stopped) much energy being able to keep +5 health regeneration on four to five party members up, mending can finally be worth more than nothing. Ah, and I cleared Kryta with that dervish gimmickry (and no monk :P) Noctarch 18:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

So I herd u dnid know taht Mudkips is my pet Axolotl

Yea, I have a living Mudpkip a.k.a. Axolotl in my room. Just wanted to point out. (Of course, I'm still bored and thus fabricate reasons to discuss about.) Noctarch 03:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Axolotls can be maintained in aquariums? —ZerphatalkThe Improver 08:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
At the cost of one pip of time regeneration :P joke, they can be held in aquariums (in fact they are aquatic animals) Noctarch 13:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
User Auron Mudkip.jpg
I suppose most GWW-users that herd of other ppl lieking mudkips will have noticed that because of the userbox already.^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 18:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Ooh, it's so sweet. I wanna have one as a tameable pet which hugs foes so they're unable to fight back. *sigh* Noctarch 18:39, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
wait, those buggers actually exist? O.O - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 18:42, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Kill him for calling the ever-loveable Axolotl bugger. :| Noctarch 18:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
oh, rofl, i looked "buggger" up after your comment just now. didn't know it's that negative o.O i'm german and it sounded cute to me ^^ - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 19:03, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Look this and understand why being german cannot be an excuse ;) Noctarch 19:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Because you are german too? Well, i am german as well, and "bugger" sounds more like "Lümmel" (=lubber) to me than the other stuff my dictionary has to offer ;) —ZerphatalkThe Improver 19:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
i heard "bugger" be used only once until now, and that was in "the true legend of zelda", a skit on ocarina of time. link gets the nick "bugger" for being all green there ^^ - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 21:16, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Forgive me, Lord, for I do not know what I do

Uh, yea, me again. I didn't want to produce even more junk on your page but I weas too blind, feeble, worthless, dumb, stupid and incompetent to get your IGN. Would you, Figure of Destiny, bless me with it so I do't have to bother you and the Wiki? Noctarch 14:40, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

i don't mind you writing on my talk page^^ ign = gww account name. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 14:48, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
However, I've yet to figure out when you are online :/ Noctarch 20:21, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Likely tommorrow sometime. But why do you want to message me there and not here? —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:24, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Because this is an English wiki (and I'd like to speak sometimes in my own tongue). Furthermore, small talk lets the Wiki sink into junk. Noctarch 22:09, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
well, there's smalltalk on every wiki. chatter and srs wiki bznz can be easily seperated with according headers. Example:
German wiki - ideas borrowing -> "serious wiki buisness"
So I herd u dnid know taht Mudkips is my pet Axolotl -> chatter.
And there are also some sections on userpages in the users' mother tongue. it doesn't break any policies, yet others are possibly annoyed for not being able to read it. Anyways, i'll log in now and in case you are coincidentally online, feel free to whisper me.^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 14:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Ugh, I think we won't meet until Friday. While I work, I'm online from 10 a.m. to 11.30 a.m. and 22.00 p.m. to 2 a.m. (of course, times are in CET). Noctarch 20:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
ok, i'll try to get online on friday around 22:00 / 10:00 p.m. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
*sigh*. Noctarch 00:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
argh! sorry noctarch >.< i forgot about that. my cousin celebrated his birthday friday-saturday with a LAN-party... —ZerphatalkThe Improver 08:23, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


You Look Like You Could Help Me Can You?--Kiro 22:14, 16 September 2008 (UTC)Zaishen Weapons.png

Yes He Can But You Should At Least Say What You Need Help With. And what's with the zaishen weapons image? If you're trying to use that as your sig image, please take a look at Help:Signatures. -- User Sig.png 07:48, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


you still haven't sorted yourself :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 14:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Done. I'm seriously not a good example for a user with a nice user page layout at the moment, but i'm currently trying to fix that :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
ugh, what do you have with pink? i thought you were male! xD - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 16:21, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
his pink is quite manly.
You may misinterpret that as you will. -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 16:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
thanks for defending my colors, nuclear. i also think so :D they're at least not similar to a "playboy-bunny-shirt-blinky-pink". (i'm waiting for my next informatics lesson in order to find out how to prevent the break in block tags. (as <div> is currently the only tag i know that can be used to create a margin around the images, which is apparently anyways a feature that rather block-tags than inline-tags have.)ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:32, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
you mean like misingheypret? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
like what? O.o —ZerphatalkThe Improver 19:39, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
a pun. ghey. misingheypret. because pink is ghey. and yours is a manly color. ghey. ghe- get it now? ;D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
This is fairly interesting... but stupid. Actually it was something favored. Noctarch 21:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Ah, now i got it. I didn't notice that it's a pun as i pronounced it wrong (rather missing-heap-red ^^) —ZerphatalkThe Improver 12:34, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
xD btw, what was something favored? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 15:14, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
i actually also wanted to ask that, but i hesitated as i already asked a question in this section :PZerphatalkThe Improver 17:48, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
if the italic font means quote, where from? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:24, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Being gay was seen as a good thing.. maybe even as teh cardinal opposite of the sin Melancholy. Noctarch 22:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
lol, it's certainly the best way to counter overpopulation. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 10:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
You still don't get what I actually meant. Wikify it. Noctarch 10:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) that might have something to do with the fact that you jumped in with a totally off-topic comment. and using pronouns where their reference is unclear doesn't help much there (like in "Actually it was something favored.", "Wikify it." and also my comment on the aggressive refrain talk page). please just explain what you mean instead of insisting on me not getting it. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 11:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Yea, correct. I meant the other meaning of "gay". That one was favored. Noctarch 11:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
ah, never knew it could also be a synonym of colorful. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 11:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
"Gay still means happy". Ironically, he got the usage of "wikify" wrong. Backsword 11:09, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
who are you referring to with "he" now? xD - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 11:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Yea, whom are you talkign about? Added: To understand my actions; regarding a link on Aberrant's page I'm an "INTJ". Of course I don't give too much on that but I tend to demand that everyone understands every wicked though I have. Noctarch 11:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
i don't like that test. i showed the results for me to 15 people and they all totally disagreed o.O - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 12:01, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I showed the analysis of the "KWEA"* to all people I knew and they disagreed, too. It's just that test mostly say nothing but one single thing that can be correct. (*T5 because of psychic issues) Noctarch 12:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
some people especially like to disagree with tests of mine if they say i'm intelligent... i don't trust them that much XD - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 12:09, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
The people or the tests? ^^ Noctarch 12:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
both, sometimes... :rolleyes: - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 12:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
That's amusing, given that those tests are designed to be written so that just about any result should be agreeable. One reason you may get those responses are that one way they do that is be generally saying things that people are unlikely to disagree about when it comes to themselves. (eg, "you are reasonably smart" is not likely to get people saying Nowai! I'm da stupaad".~) Backsword 12:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
haven't had a test like that yet. the best result i ever got was "You're a motherfucking nerd. Turn off your computer and get a life". Then again, any selection of answers led to that... - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 12:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Then, why did I accept "You are homophobe? Noctarch 12:49, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Indeed, Backsword. Anyways, as yo and noctarch did the test as well, i spend some time filling out the sheet as well, and it says i'm "INTP" (22/25/1/33) I wouldn't agree that only 1 percent of my personatily is thinking, either :P
about that gay thing has indeed rather developed to a synonym for being homosexual istead of being happy. (If you'd shout "I am gay!" after winning a game for example, you'll certainly get an astonished reaction rather than something like "Of course you are gay. We're all gay - our team won.") —ZerphatalkThe Improver 13:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
it's not x% of your personality, add them and you don't get 100% :) for each of the four directions of personality, there are the two opposites, and the percentage tells you how much you tend in that direction instead of its opposide. that would make 0% kinda an optimal value because that means you're perfectly balanced unlike gw :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 13:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
oops, i fail in counting to 100. >.> Ok, then i have different results and a rather balanced thinking according to that test. (Though i don't know why thinking too much should be bad.) But rl isn't balanced either, and it's hard if not nearly impossible to tell about a "balanced" personality imo. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 14:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
the opposite to thinking would be "intuitive" :) - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 14:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
right. but one can't completely be either of them. unless you are an animal, in which case you are completely intuitive, according to our heresy teacher. :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 15:08, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
|-|(_)/\/\4n!7µ |5 0\/3rr@73|) . Should say that certain balancers (God and one of his biblical prophets) are but that could indeed violate NPA. Noctarch 15:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
yah...god could try to fix that global warming bug that prevents nature from balancing human meddling. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:48, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
"(i'm waiting for my next informatics lesson in order to find out how to prevent the break in block tags. (as <div> is currently the only tag i know that can be used to create a margin around the images, which is apparently anyways a feature that rather block-tags than inline-tags have.)" - div is a block element and block elements always break lines. span would be a inline element which you can use in the same way as a div, just with the inherited attribute of being a inline element ;) poke | talk 16:53, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
maybe our teacher refered to that. I also googled a bit and found out that <span> is apparently the same as <div>, except for being an inline tag instead. unfortunately i already replaced the div for span tags in my sandbox once, but it did't work for some reason :/ ( lookie) but maybe i've got only another coding mistake there. thanks though. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 17:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
i've got to know span as a text modification tag... which is why i wouldn't use it for spacing and alignment. what do you want to do there btw? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
The "same" as i did with the elixirs on the left: a "curved" row of polymock icons, at first "going down"/having a 10px bigger margin-top than the previous ones, then a 10px smaller one again until the last icon is on the same height as the first one.
Something like °~+-,__,-+~° —ZerphatalkThe Improver 19:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Prayer of the Forgotten

I'm in question as to the last edit there. Did we ever come to a consensus on the seemingly redundant unique weapons category? Pertaining to that answer, should the edit done by the anon on said page be reverted? --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 15:57, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

As far as i know, unique weapon pages are not the only ones that have partly redundant categories. many trophies for example have their the accordant salvage category also written down at the bottom of the page although it's added automatically by the template. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 17:53, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, you were talking about the coinciding categories being Unique spears / Spear Mastery unique items, right? In this case, if we are going to decide us for only one of them and get rid of the other, the categories still written down on the pages have to get removed of course. But at the moment, we apparently didn't come up with a solution for this, right? They are still automatically double-tagged by the template. We should maybe point that out on the template talk to find out whether other users think that it's maybe better to have both one category for the attribute line and one for the item type. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 18:00, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Geh, mmk. I'll post a note on template talk. Thanks Zerpha :) --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 18:57, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
ok. i'll participate on the talk when i notice that you got started. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 00:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I posted at Guild Wars Wiki talk:Projects/Unique Items because it seemed to fit best at that project area. Would it be safe to start an RFC? I'd like to see if we can fix this as quickly as possible. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 16:50, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
an RFC certainly isn't a bad idea. The Unique items project talk seems to be the better place for this as well: Did you notice the second secton?
GWWProject Unique items draft categorization example.jpg
That means all these categories were intensively structured like this, but and the redundancy of seperate categorization by type and by attribute for non-caster weapons was apparently not noticed, but accepted. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 19:15, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, that royally confused me (mainly because of a recent latin test frying my mind), but what I don' get is why two categories containing the exact same information were accepted. It did fit into said area above, just didnt make sense, in my opinion. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 19:54, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
If i've interpreted this section right, the argument for these identical categories was having an easier search. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Eh, more then likely. Maybe I'm just getting paranoid on this :\ --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 20:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


you'll have to give me your icq number :D send me a mail. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:34, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

198-538-854. I ain't Zerpha but I felt like I could leave it to you both. To all spammers now following, you will be forgotten! Noctarch 22:09, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
added you. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Added whom? Noctarch 00:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
you. you should've received the add request yesterday. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 15:51, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
i suppose i can look up your email in your preferences, right? Unfortunately idk how to get to them. :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 18:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
wiki mail! poke | talk 18:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
exahactely. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:08, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, sure, wiki mail...
*Realizes that he already heard that term once, examines the bars on the left, notices the E-mail this user line in the toolbox*
Silly me, what else! :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 18:24, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
nespresso? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:27, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm afraid your mind is strongly influenced by the media. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 18:38, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
me? NEVAR! - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:40, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

btw, why aren't you answering..? :D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:59, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

sorry. i've already sent two wiki-mails to you because of that. (I actually wanted to tell you on my userpage at first, but then decided to sent it as mail instead) But apparently you didn't get them, therefore i'll tell you on my userpage anyways (and for the third time in total :P): I added you, then deleted the group "general" where you were listed - as i wanted to move you in my common usergroup - but i apparently accidentally removed you completely when doing so. the last thing i saw was a message from you, but no new tab appeared in the chat window...could you send a new request maybe? :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 19:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
ok, new request has been sent ^^ - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
ok, i accepted. you still aren't visible in my list, though. maybe you have to send a message again at first. btw, did you actually receive the wiki-mails? —ZerphatalkThe Improver 19:27, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
yes, outlook just didn't download them for some reason. and most likely it's because you only accepted my request and didn't add me to your list ;) - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:30, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
There's only one solution to my confusion. The legendary weapon of all who dont know what's going on. An ultimate defense against any disturbing plot; WTF? 21:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

may I?

May I start contributing to Guild Wars Wiki:Projects/NPC models ? -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 03:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

NEVAR! - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 13:48, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Hey Blood^^ I have no idea what lead you to think that i have any special rights on that project, not to mention the force to allow users to contribute or not xD Go ahead if you want. (And if it's about a formatting suggestion or something similar, you should better write that down on the project's talk page - not mine - where it could be discussed by every user ;P) —ZerphatalkThe Improver 18:19, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Hehe, Seru told me to talk to you before Wolf and I go all crazy. . . I have 98 main space edits and 543 user talk page edits, need to work on my main credit lol. Thanks! The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wings of Blood (talk • contribs) at 23:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC).
May I tell you to get on, show me why I don't get my beloved Zehtuka's Pack and remove my boredom? Noctarch 23:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) well then, happy editing^^
you may do so Noctarch. But what's there greatly to tell? The Pack is either lying somewhere in the desolation, or it isn't :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 23:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Rather one of my strange request. Gimme dat freakin ting or imma chargin mah lazor. Noctarch 23:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
NPA plz :O —ZerphatalkThe Improver 23:37, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
As if I wanted to insult you... it's just that the randomizer behind the pack really causes my frustration to surge. :( Noctarch 23:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
i know that you didn't want to insult me^^ Yeah, that bag apparently doesn't drop that often. At least i never found it, too. You could maybe buy a Charr Bag in pre for ~2k instead. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 23:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
I bought one for 800g and I wanted to have both - for the diversity. But two days running out of the Ruins of Sahlajar can make you doubting. It's like my search for a Zodiacus Sword, Plagueborn Scepter, Icy Dragon Sword and so on. I'll probably never find it. Noctarch 23:47, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Zehtuka's Pack, an IDS and Zodiac weapons are much easier to get, at least if you use trade forums like Guru. Plageborn weapons might be a problem though, as they apparently don't drop with inscription from the z-chest. ( I already started many chest-runs on "afflicted-loot-area", but perfect wands, foci and shields are almost unattainable without inscription (you need "two perfect inherent mods") :/ i'm myself using a plagueborn scepter with 14/1 only and still looking for a better one. i found a q12 max-stats water magic scepter already, though.)ZerphatalkThe Improver 23:59, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to violate NPA in anyway regarding Guru if it was a person. I tried it - to absurd thoughts about prices there (maybe common but still far from acceptable). Noctarch 00:05, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
My actual account on guru got banned before i even did anything there. It was banned automatically for alleged multiple-accounting alert, yet i only mixed the account creation up kinda. i had several tabs and windows open and clicked some things more than once, activated the account on one tab and tried to log in on the the end i got banned for some strange reason. The prices are every now and then by far too high (most +XX e items can largely differ, nobody can tell a fixed value there anyways) But most items are quite cheap actually... —ZerphatalkThe Improver 00:20, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Yea, sometimes too cheap. I never found one of my two most favorite scythes. Noctarch 00:23, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Destroyer scythes have a rather fixed value as they're crafted. I had a q9 elegant scythe once, but i unfortunately sold that already about half a year ago. :/ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 00:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I said one, not any one. I crafted the destroyer reaper on and for myself. However, I never even saw a gold Elegant Scythe. Noctarch 00:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I thought you're talking about the skins in general, as we were talking about finding items in guru auctions. I found that scythe in RoT afair (not in DoA). —ZerphatalkThe Improver 00:33, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


because i know you want it. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 20:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

tyvm! :D Seriously, i would use this image for my userpage rather than that. Unfortunately, it would get tagged for being a copyvio and deleted again ;.; —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


Cool! How did you do that? — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 22:56, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Quite simple actually, mainly by using Photoshop's pencil tool. I zoomed in to 500% and tried to get a good selection. The edges are too angular, though. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 23:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
O so its just a picture that you zoomed into and took it out the background pixel by pixel? I thought it was like a program rendering — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 23:10, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Nope :/ (You can actually notice that the screenshot was a bit too dark as well)
But AntiLamer and Zora are using such programs, there's apparently some freeware that allows you to do so. I asked antilamer once and he told me about the programs he used, you can find more information about this on his talk page. (I couldn't manage to get them working, though <.<)ZerphatalkThe Improver 23:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
OK will do, since the Cinematics project is almost finished i need something to do now :D — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 23:17, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
good luck^^ "real renders" are better than photoshopped screenshots in quality, and i suppose at the end they're not harder to create than them after you have figured out how all this stuff works. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 23:21, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Well i think i got the first step to work, but i dont have a 3d program yet. the freeware autodesk one is being slow downloading. If it works then ill start contributing there :D — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 23:30, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
So let's hope that it works then :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 00:05, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
I have to try and use Maya casue the other program wouldn't work *sigh* im getting closer. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 02:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Still a work in progress xD — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 02:52, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Where did you download 3dmax from? I cant get to that step xD — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 03:39, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
3dmax seems to be a rather professional program that was also used for several films and games; it isn't freeware and you could at most get a trial version for one month. But you could try to find an replacement for the program you need. Blender could possibly work. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 07:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
I'll try that. thx — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 16:26, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

COuldnt get it to work xD. If i had more free time in class i would use the copy of Autodesk Viz my school owns. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 02:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I gots an Idea!

something you might want to take a look at, I was looking through certain pages and since I'm blood and I like to attempt to make things better it just goes with me. I have other suggestions as well not just regarding this one. I hope you take a quick honest look at it =D -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 01:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

What exactly is the page about; what does the "I" stand for? Italian? International? I neither speak Italian, nor could i really help out with other languages, as i can speak French only a little and wouldn't notice grammatical mistakes even if i'd play with French language setting :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 14:18, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
lol the plan was to have the german as a sub project but poke mentioned that GTTF is no longer active =[. -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 18:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I'd have a suggestion which could be real fun. Why not try to create a localized string library which serves as a replacement for all strings in the GW.dat file so anyone who wants either to correct the localization bugs on his or her own or just likes to text-mod (*chuckles*) can actually do so? Could this be abused in any manner? Is this too much rework on the data structure of GuildWars? I do hope not. I bet I fix the text bugs of my own language faster than it's down at the moment (because they have better things to do). I always like to change some flavorless titles and so on. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 20:45, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I agree, if you want to fix your language's bugs; why not do it? Heck, it might save the GW Team alot time if someone just does it by themselves and sends the fixed up file. =D -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 21:22, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


thats an amazing object right there. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 04:19, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

indeed that is a wonderful screen shot, I just love GW graphics! -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 04:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Yah, i also like that screenshot :) That's a nice animation Anet created there. I'm glad it finally found use in an article. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 14:20, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

One thing bots can't see at Bergen

I'm curious what you say about this. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 12:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Unused Skill Icon N16

As you most likely know,Image:User_Zerpha_The_Improver_skill_icons_unused_N16.png‎ is currently in use as Summoning Sickness. I just thought you should remove it from the unused skill icon page. Treesbyty 15:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

yah, thanks. i suppose you're right. i'll tag it and the other icons shown on the wiki for deletion. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 12:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

What about...

... "We Shall Commit Gimmickry [SHRD]"? Is this too much of insulting? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 11:38, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Followers of Shardism believe that, according to Commandment #8, you are not allowed to do so. Anyways, you are apparently not Shardist, as i know that you don't mind committing the sin of gimmickry, therefore i think this is a matter of faith. Assumed that you have your own religion it would be quite contrasting towards this one at that point, as Commandment #8 would rather be something like "Thou shall seek alternation" instead. But i don't think there are that much Guild Wars players out there that don't at least acknowledge the sense of some shardistic advices. Amen. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 14:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
It was meant as a statement - as in "We shall commit gimmickry, Shrd*" (*whoever Shrd is^^) ... Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 16:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
i know, but i preferred to paraphrase an actual answer.^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:27, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
And I like it. "Zerpha improves; I try. It's a perfect arrangement.". Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 16:54, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
      -Noctarch, Tyrian renegade
Lol, i actually thought you'd dislike Shard, but after having read this section, i noticed that we simply have another meaning for "gimmick builds" in mind than him. But consequently this commandment makes more sense. :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:43, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
It does not make more sense, it does make sense in the first place at all. And it's not that I dislike him nor do I like him. He's just a very hazardous mixture; intelligent, successful, self-righteous and tending to commit logical fallacies. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 01:09, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) PS: I got this for you:

Cry of Pain.jpg This user thinks that Cry of Pain is none better than Ursan Blessing.

Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 04:06, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

There are enough broken PvE skills, but i neither dislike imbagons nor Cry teams that much. Ursan is simply the dumbest one imo because you don't need to think any build up. you could simply equip your skill bar with nothing than UB and push 1-2-3-4-c-space to get a better effect than most other builds. I believe my leader thinks the same way, though he tolerates if one in the party wants to use his teddy. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 11:32, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
I think it's gimmick time =) Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 11:36, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Huh What?

Category talk:Shadow Tactics skills???? --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 08:55, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

yah, sry. category talks are maybe not the best areas for feedback :PZerphatalkThe Improver 10:57, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

The never-existing CoolDown bug of Budger Blackpowder in Drakkar lake, Far Shiverpeaks

Hmm, I travelled the lands of those spiteful and blind around the WarTower and I saw that there's the believe Budger once allowed a player to receive and drop four Barrels of Black Powder per second! Following those threads this cooldown bug has been removed. If it has, and I doubt it, it has been re-introduced. I was able (via a macro of my G11) to receive/drop about 30 barrels per second. That's ~1500 dps! And a load of knockdowns by the way. The downside of this "fun" is that I always rend my client and end up disconnected. But, hey, who cares whenyou can solo-vanquish all Norn areas without any skill? Exactly, me does. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 11:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

1500dps, not bad^^ I suppose you noticed my note on Budger's talk page?^^ I actually thought i'd have uploaded an image of that scene, but apparently i didn't —ZerphatalkThe Improver 17:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Please take a look here.

I think I fixed your "wave". Careful though, as it might break the page in lower resolutions. :) WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 18:03, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I seem to have made an error somewhere, as the main GWW navigation boxes get pushed way down on that page.. :( WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 18:07, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Ah, according to the history, that's been there for a while now, not since my edit. Anyway, I hope you don't mind I edited your sandbox, I just happened to have an idea how to achieve that wave-thingy you were aiming for. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 20:48, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
yes don't worry, i already screwed that up before :P and of course i don't mind - thank you for your help. I tried several things and noticed that using a table was apparently the only way to get it arranged to a nice wave. I didn't use it because it prevented the box with the big image in the middle from scaling. But it's actually better than having no wave at all, isn't it?^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 19:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I thought you hadn't found a solution yet ^^ Anyway, if I get some more ideas about how to make it all scale nicely and such, I'll notify you, don't expect miracles though :P WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 19:31, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
I have to admit that i forgot that possibility meanwhile.^^' But thanks anyways. I'd be happy to hear some good news about it, but of course you don't need to make great efforts for me because of that. :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 19:36, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I made you a nav bar and fixed your main page. They're sort of ready to be implemented. I copied most code from your sandbox, and fixed some minor issues. I had to downscale the image on the main page, because it breaks the page in lower resolutions, and I also managed to make the lower wave expand or shrink when the window expands or shrinks. I hope you like it! :) WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 00:11, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much, that looks nice. :D I guess it's time to finally change my userpage.^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 11:17, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
User Seru Zerpha.png
Is that what you wanted to do with the page? — Seru User Seru Sig5.png Talk 02:01, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
not quite. i supposed that i'd eventually have to arrange them as it's shown in your image, since i didn't plan to let them overlap as Why did. But his idea to give the icons a relative width is actually the best one, as i wanted the design to scale with the page, which is the case here. Thats quite useful as it prevents such "gaps" as you can see in your widescreen sample.
In case you asked because i didn't start editing my page yet: I didn't have the time to do it yesterday, but i'll change it today. :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 06:49, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, by the way, if you're going to implement those two thingies I made for you, keep in mind that the nav bar is coded to work on the pages it links to only, and that the bottom wave is quite precisely set up not to break your page in 1024x768; adding additional images to it might cause it to break in that resolution. Should you ever need some more work to be done on your userpage, I'd be glad to help out. :) WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 11:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
[2] broke it in 1024x768 :P WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 11:44, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
with "break" i actually thought you refer to the icons being split apart in several rows. what do you mean? the image overlapping the blue-purple background? —ZerphatalkThe Improver 11:52, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, and a left-right scroll bar appearing at the bottom, but well, it doesn't really matter, who is using 1024x768 these days anyway. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 12:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Is this what you are trying to do? Also, what do you mean with "text-align:center" doesn't work? As far as I can see, the new coding causes the image to leak out of the div you placed around it =o WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 15:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
yeah, that's what i wanted :P and i tried to replace the <center> tag, but there was still a difference, though...and i didn't notice any difference with or without "text-align:center" added as value. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 18:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
ah yea, there could be some redundant code in it *blushes* WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 20:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
anyways, the image and greeting sentence is centered in your version without the <center> tag, while mine is not. i'm just comparing them, but apparently the only differences are some spaces, though this shouldn't actually be the case O.o —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:49, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Whowz, I'm a terrible perfectionist, but I managed to get all the divisions align properly pixel-wise here now. Content remains the same as User:Zerpha The Improver/Sandbox, so I suggest copy-pasting all code in my sandbox to yours (or to your userpage) :P Also see the difference between the two pages. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 22:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
cool, thanks :D but i changed the design meanwhile, therefore i'll have to look the numbers up rather than just copy-pasting it. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 23:07, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) new design looks awesome! :D WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 10:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

thanks^^ i'm currently trying to arrange it nicely in templates. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 11:35, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
What I did myself, is making a page User:Why Are We Fighting/Userpage and including that on my main page. I can freely change my userpage without anyone noticing it on their watchlist, and people don't have to see my noobish coding when they press edit :P WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 12:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
I wouldn't call that noobish. Your userpage is rather one of the more complex pages actually. Well, i proceeded almost like you did, though this doesn't serve as a copy, i'll still edit the parameters on my actual userpage. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 12:39, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

[\/]3 46@!|\|

Any idea why this has never been documented? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 12:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

i didn't even notice those appear outside Augury Rock, how did you know which rune represented which mission?^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 15:52, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
a) the symbols are pretty self-explaining and b) i guess they activate once you've finished the mission. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
i also thought of b), but the inscriptions are not absolutely clear to me. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
the river of first one should be easy as it somewhat resembles a river. dunes of despair shows the ruins where you fight in most of the time and elona reach could be a peak from this angle of view. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
i saw the river after you had been talking about the symbols being self-explaining, but i couldn't interpret that much into the other two. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 17:01, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Mwuaha, i r teh uber n3rd. =P Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 17:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
|_| L|53 '|'00 |\/||_|<|-| 13375|>34|< - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:28, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Only to bring back old comrades that found some worlds boring ;) Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 17:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) and you use a very strange type of leetspeak. what a scrawl :P i mean, you used different symbols for the same letter, and your "C" can seriously not be recognized as such with this font type:
|_| $}{0|_|1|) 83773;- (}{4|\|63 `/0|_|;- |/\|;-:7:|\|6 $7`/13 —ZerphatalkThe Improver 17:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
|_()|_ !|\'$ $() (&\^/|_ |() |@|_|\{ |_&&|$|>&@|\{ --Cancer Angel y so srs? 18:03, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
there's no rule you have to keep using the same code for the same letter. and in fact, yours is even stranger and harder to recognize :P and ya, i forgot i decided not to use that c anymore, it's an older version now used for F. 4ND T3H T2U3 13375P34K D035'T 3V3N U53 4NY7H1N6 3XC3P7 NUM8325. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Anyway, we need more good players with heart, mind, gold and the likes. Hey, the world's so rotten they don't even know what I mean when I say WTS Dead Sword. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 18:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
yeah you're right actually, i mainly wrote this to leave a comment with leetspeak^^ there are infinite variations. It took me some time until i was able to recognize CA's T and K used in his style. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 19:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
i didn't even bother trying to recognize out what's what. i got "lol ... so c..." - gotta be "lol it's so cool" or "kewl". the rest was easy to figure out. "to talk like this" was my first guess, turned out to be "to talk leetspeak", though. CA, you should really think about that T again. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 20:51, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
yeah, "cewl" also caused some problems as i supposed it to either be written normal or with K. if "lol [...] leetspeak" hasn't been that obvious, i wouldn't have been able to translate it. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

. . .

i dont like links in mai dialogue. and the capitol is Rin get it right! — Seru User Seru Sig5.png Talk 21:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

oops >.< of course it's rin, sorry. But i don't know whether you can forbid others from adding links to those pages.^^ as you see, they can serve as clarification. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 21:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Rin is the former, Ascalon City the capital of today. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 22:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Drascir is the former capital of Ascalon, it was destroyed during the first Charr attacks before Prophecies even starts. During the Prophecies campain, Rin is the capital of Ascalon, however it is not reachable outside the Nolani Academy mission. Ascalon City is a city much like Droknar's Forge, which is not the actual capital of Deldrimor; the capital of Deldrimor is the city you need to retake during the Thunderhead Keep mission. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 22:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
On second thought, I might be wrong about Droknar's Forge. I am absolutely positively sure about Rin being the capital of Acalon though. Also see the Drascir and Rin pages. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 22:48, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
If anyone might still be interested, I got a confirmation about Drok's not being the capital of Deldrimor; see the dialoge here. :) WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 22:51, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Maybe that would belong in a ==Notes== or a ==Trivia== section. I like dialogue to not have links. How can it clarify if it's wrong?Seru User Seru Sig5.png Talk 23:13, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, imo, if the dialogue is vague, or refers to things not yet linked to, links in the dialogue are OK. But this is something we ought to discuss on the cinematic formatting talk page. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 23:15, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Bull's Charge

Is this really a bad advice? I mean, it's THE synergy or do I fail once more? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 10:25, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow, this header virtually screams for its demand^^ I mean, i would've used another icon for the archive, but i could also use your signature "N" instead if you really want.
I didn't try it yet, but this looks like a quite nicely working synergy to me. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 10:33, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, you meant the Auron Mudkip icon? I like it, though I am not Auron (This is sublimial message. I am not allowed to attack perons here by saying whom I like and whom not.) And regarding my original concern, the synergy note (being removed), how do we solve this? The Goblin Warchief hit and went. 12:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Grr, something ate my cookies. The above anonymous IP guy was me. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 12:16, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) I already used the Auron Mudkip one for the previous archive, i planned to use the CoP icon before. And to solve the issue with the synergy between Bull's Charge and "On Your Knees!": My Goblin Piledriver advices to try this one out ingame, and add the note again in case it works - which is likely the case. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 12:18, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
(addition) yeah, i already strongly supposed that :D —ZerphatalkThe Improver 12:18, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
As soon as the WWU releases me, I'll try that, an unfavored and a technically good but always overlooked skill. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 12:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
WWU? and yeah, this can almost completely take out a melee, i also already wondered why nobody uses it.^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 12:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
WWU... and I thought we have common friends. ;) Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 12:37, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
/doh —ZerphatalkThe Improver 12:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Gotta make a userbox out of this =) 'lat0r (Java class) Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 13:02, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Tested it, it works - you always get the adrenalin when you foe kites and if he doesn't, bring some scary skills. Nonetheless I suggest Bluu's Strike and Sprint/Rush for safety. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 19:00, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
the problem with this advice is: it will make people want to use it because it sounds like a good idea. that's all ok and stuff, but unfortunately bull's charge is not a good idea. you're a warrior. you're not there to shut down other warriors, it's a frkn necromancer and ele job. another one is that there's a non-elite that's good enough in any case where you could need the walk->kd effect. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 20:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Only because one skill is bad (in your not so honorable opinion) it means that there is no synergy. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 22:12, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
i didn't deny the synergy. i only pointed out it makes people think wrong about the skill itself. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 22:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
well, isn't not leaving a note about a synergy with that skill - because of the skill itself being weak - as if we would write down something like "This skill sucks. Take another Elite skill and Bull's Strike with you instead."? If this skill combination works, we should leave a note about that in my opition. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 23:43, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
bull's charge isn't rly meant to be or more useful if kept up 100%, and not if it takes another skill slot just to do so. --Cancer Angel y so srs? 01:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
they do have a point, though. it somewhat deserves being noted as it really is a synergy. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 11:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Misery made a valid point against that noten on my talk page: getting the 6 adrenaline for On your Knees every 10 or so seconds would take another skill and strange builds. that being a waste should be clear for anyone, as (->cursed angel) it's really not worth being kept up. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 11:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Because narrowminds tell us that adrenaline-emptying is a warrior's death. I know that it's not the build. Because of these advice skills like Wild Blow are very rarely, most likely, not used though they are too often needed. As a compromise, a note could read "Skill X and Skill Y synergize well. However, if possible focusing on strategy Z can prove more powerful." See it as a note for those who don't have the chances to achieve better or best builds. Acceptable? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 22:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Except it is actually literally impossible to get 6 adrenaline every hit, so no, you can't maintain it, the note was false. Misery 22:49, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Since when is it necessary to gain 6 adrenaline EACH hit? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 00:00, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Indeed. For the record, Misery, Bull's Charge does not end after one attack. You can repeatedly KD one target, if he starts moving again after he gets up, without having to reapply this stance. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 00:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
I assume Y0 thought the same way - otherwise I don't understand why one skill is too much skills to keep something up. Like Dwarven Stability, Glyph of Renewal... Maybe they judged the imaginary third skill that has to give 6 adrenaline the kill that makes it too much. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 00:28, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
to keep it up, you'd have to hit the enemy 6 times in 10 seconds (and you wouldn't be able to use your adrenaline for anthing else). even if you're using an axe this is not very likely, so an IAS or adrenaline-increase would be needed. that third skill has to be kept up 100%, too, and you're limited to W/ with little other attributes, so IWAY is the only non-idiotic choice. the other way would be, of course, chasing your target permanently while perfectly allowing them to use skills while you can't do anything because you're too concentrated on keeping up bull's charge. really, the idea of maintaining bull's charge is about the level of permanent flare spamming. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 12:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
We could write down what you said now instead. "Despite the synergy with "On Your Knees!", it should be considered [...]" —ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:10, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
"Has synergy with OYK, though trying to keep up Bull's Charge is certainly a bad idea"? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Uhm, Y0, I tried it. You do not have to have an IAS. You even have some adrenaline to spend on other things. Be honest, be it only once; have you ever tested it? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 20:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
no, i haven't. i didn't even consider trying it because the idea of actually applying this is ridiculous o.O i guess maths and some speculation just isn't enough for gw then... it's still a bad idea to sacrifice most (all-some=most) of your adrenaline and the energy if you can have the effect much easier without wasting your elite. well, be it as it may, i don't care that much about the note, as long as it doesn't make the combination look like a good idea. and you should really stop using html-tags on wikis, it looks strange. :D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 20:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Yet you committed one of the greatest fallacies. I thought, you'd be more empiric. Especially in an environment as flawful (thouh maybe not regarding this specific topic) as GW you cannot be so bold and assume that mere thinking solves each question. I can accept it, when we decide not to put any note on said skill, however, I cannot accept your method of "proof". Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 20:41, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
ok, that was more than "o.O"-worthy... you're way overexaggerating this. i am usually more the "try it, it works."-type, but as said, this was never an issue i considered worth trying. i hate to repeat myself, but again, that's because bull's charge is not worth any effort as long as bull's strike is there. and i'd appreciate if you'd stop making assumptions, as i never claimed to "proove" anything. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 21:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
"Not considered worth trying" is always a lazy excuse no matter if one side is exaggerating or not. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 21:15, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
exactly. i was too lazy to run guild wars just to try this, as i didn't consider it an important matter ;) - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 21:25, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
sorry if that sounded sarcastic, i just noticed it might. no, i am serious here. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 21:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Karten von Smurf

Hallihallo, hier ist Nancy vom deutschen Guildwiki. Ich hätte mal eine ganz wichtige Frage wegen den Karten von User:Smurf. Da mein Englisch leider ganz bescheiden ist, wollte ich dich mal fragen, ob du ihn mal fragen könntest, wie genau er diese Karte hier gemacht hat. Ich habe mir schon seine "d3d9.dll" herunter geladen, damit ich ganz weit rauszoomen kann, aber ich verstehe nicht wie er mit seinem Charakter in die luft geht - User_talk:Smurf#Wizard's Isle Map? Ich würde mich wahnsinnig freuen, wenn du ihn mal fragen könntest. Ich möchte halt nur eine Karte von verschiedenen Arenen haben, die eben Hochauflösend sind, weil sie im Spiel aus der Luft fotografiert sind. Ich hoffe ich konnte mein Anliegen etwas verdeutlichen :D. LG -- 18:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

ich würde davon ausgehen, dass er gwdatbrowser verwendet. könnte mir auch vorstellen, die kartentextur mit texmod zu extrahieren. ich glaub jedenfalls nicht, dass es sich um einen screenshot handelt. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:24, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Die Karten sind in Textmod und im gw.dat-Browser nicht in der Auflösung :o). -- 19:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
hmm... ich werd das später mal nachschauen. ich mein ich hätte da beim durchgehen schon solche texturen gesehen ^^ - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 21:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
hi nancy, ich hab dir auf deiner diskussionsseite eine übersetzung von Smurfs kommentar hinterlassen, ich hoffe das kann all deine fragen beantworten. gruß —ZerphatalkThe Improver 21:42, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Art Contest?

Will there ever be one more for GW 1 (the only true .. one)? And if not, will I be able to just send them art scetches? I have an idea (of stealing an idea hrrhrr). Hmm, could be called Twilight Blade, Equinoctial Sword or even (very bad) Solas* Sword. (*S.o.L.a.S.)Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 15:49, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

lol, i also had the same idea when i saw the Elemental Sword article for the first time as i associated this one with the card's counterpart^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:38, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
i don't think there will be anymore, except maybe if they introduce new weapons for some reason. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 12:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Heya Stranger!

Where have you been? I did some serious uploading of unique item icons this weekend, 50+ if I counted correctly. I wasn't sure if they should be moved to the Existing skin area on the project page, so I left them where they were. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 14:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that's a lot! :D Sorry Wyn, i don't have that much time atm 'cause of school... :/ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 14:43, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Aww, what an excuse. I've beaten the Abitur solo mission in Germany on hardmode with Master's Reward and smacked my characters around. ... ... and yes, I do have a real Life - somewhere on HD C: if I remember correctly. =P Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 23:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
i actually like the vocabulary-grinding for the english title, but currently i have to get prepared for these hydrocarbons of the chemistry mission until monday. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 23:34, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Will we smash some virtual skulls when Killmas arrives? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 01:45, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


You changed my box change xD. I was thinking of doing that, but it really doesn't seem to flow wit hthe rest of the box. . . the icon would be too big. Check it out here. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 03:42, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

User Zerpha The Improver Weapon infobox icon comparison.jpg
Too big? Isn't the icon 64x64px in both cases?^^ The other way it's even shorter and doesn't have that much whitespace on both sides. Or do you refer to the big area of the orange background? Imo that flows even better than the other version, as it becomes a big column with the entire left row, which isn't the case in the left example. I centered the text in that column with my edit as the orange space didn't appear to be that big this way, but actually also aligning the text to the top here should suit better to the box if you look at it as a whole. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 08:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I guess. I still like it at the bottom. You have any reason why it doesn't like to update to the new box? Most of the Uniques aren't updated. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 16:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Fixed that already some minutes ago poke | talk 16:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

NPC naming

Can I point you (or whoever reads this) to here? I'm unsure as to how to name these guys, and the proposal I'm thinking of seems too....something. I just don't think it'd work. Any suggestions? --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 18:02, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

mm, never mind, I created them :P. Sorry bout that. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 04:48, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
np, i rather have to excuse for not replying for so long :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:10, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


Just so you know: I temporarily protected your user page; hopefully that helps to keep off the vandals (even after the protection expires). If you want it unprotected (whatever reason you have, for example to keep your vandalism counter up to date xD), just say it :) poke | talk 15:53, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

no, that's ok. thank you poke for taking care of my userpage. :)
(i'll try to do so as well, i actually intended to change the design on halloween already >.<)ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:12, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Why are you going inactive? D: --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 17:12, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) well, who talks about "going inactive", haven't i been inactive since about one month already? :P i just thought i should better add this box as i couldn't reply in time lately. :( yet i think i'll be on the wiki more often again in the winter holydays. y'know, there's always something that can be done on a wiki, be it something userspace-related only or several little changes in the mainspace^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 17:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I just saw you put up that box and thought you were going to be more inactive :P --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 17:30, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
no worries, the gaps between my future contribs won't be half a year or something like that xD but i'm glad there are actually some ppl who would miss me, yay ^_^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 17:39, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


A look? More never now and always then.

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Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 17:19, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

chin up ;) the important point is that we aren't dead on the wiki, isn't it? :> —ZerphatalkThe Improver 17:27, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
*shoots zerpha* what? :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:28, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
*chokes both* Dead don't speak. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 17:42, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Dead men/women tell no tales. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 22:44, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
*sigh*...I'll get the shovel...someones gotta bury these two. -__- User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 03:58, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Grab another, I guess I'm helpin too. -_- — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 22:31, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

High res images

Hey Zerpha, please do not tag the images for image update, just make a list or something which are wrong, and I'll check them (it's easier for both me and you to make a list of them ;) ). Also take a look at this section on my talk page. Thanks and Merry Christmas :) poke | talk 00:21, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

hi there

I know you are somewhat inactive, but hopefully you (or anyone else reading this) can direct me to where to get the GW dat reader program again. I had to format my HD and I lost it, as well as all the graphics I extracted from it. Any help would be appreciated. — Rappy 00:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Guild Wars Wiki talk:Projects/Inventory icons#GWDatBrowser slightly inaccurate color poke | talk 12:20, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Ty Poke. Honestly didn't think checking the wiki for a link... I know, I fail. — Rappy 16:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
thanks poke for taking care of that :) —ZerphatalkThe Improver 17:08, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome :) poke | talk 17:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Category talk

Zerpha, if you have comments about stuff, the category talk is really not the place to put it. This would have been a better place. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 05:40, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

hehe, yeah - you told me something like that once already. but look at the timestamp: i made this comment almost one year ago ;) i guess you didn't notice the other timestamp belongs to an anon, did you? —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:32, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Happy Valentine's Day!

A Flower for you on Valentine's Day Happy V-Day!!! - Tesla 01:04, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment you made about a year ago

Hey, I saw you commented on my rendition of Galil's user page layout. Thanks for the comment, though I haven't been active enough to check it out or make any progress with its layout I'm afraid. --Alreajk (My sandbox)

this late reply is a bit suprising, but the heck with it^^ it's funny to see and to remember these ancient comments again. i wouldn't have supposed it to be taken somewhere in the challenge mission. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 15:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Haha yeah I know, reviving old stuff is always fun. it was actually taken in the outpost of Dajkah Inlet. I doubt I'll finish the template, I really don't care at all about Guild Wars anymore. Especially since GW 2 was pushed back another year to 2011. Oh well. Alreajk 01:33, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey :)

It's a long time since we've talked :P how r you? Ninjas In The Sky 05:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm doing great. I got 2 months until a very very important for me test to get in a school (I think it's a high school in English, above 7th grade) so I haven't got any time to do much except study. It's nice to see you're doing well :) Ninjas In The Sky 14:14, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Miniature Brown Rabbit.png

there's still a ton of links to that for sysops to be deleting the redirect >.> -Auron 14:39, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

whoops, you're right. that redirect is bugging me though, would it be ok if i updated the remaining names manually? —ZerphatalkThe Improver 14:41, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
idc -Auron 15:07, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
for some reason i supposed that. hence i already started doing so^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 15:12, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
redirects are only then unnecessary, when they are not used. So next time change the links first (or ask people to change it) and then tag it for deletion. poke | talk 17:45, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
yes, i'm sorry. i forgot that this icon, being one of a miniature, was already multiple times in use. i guess i better just revert such an edit when noticing something like that next time ._.
now, however, the current 5 links shown don't really seem to use the filename anymore, i checked the templates they use and there was only the updated name left. i guess the server has to update at first or something. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 17:53, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


It actually stands for the beginning of the requiem for the dead "requiescat in pace". It is a mixture of coincidence and muddling that it resolves to "rest in peace" :P Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 18:57, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

yeah, i already heard that its actual origin was from latin nature. but as you said, these days it's also often seen as abbreviation standing for the named english meaning. since the one phrase translates into the other, i don't see a problem with that^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 21:27, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Boardwalk Prize --> Festival Prize

It's alright to leave that as a redirect - I wouldn't say it's necessary to update all the links. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 15:08, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Now i'm halfway done already - and i was just in the mood of starting a tagging-spree, therefore i wouldn't have a problem with finishing it :P But if you want me to stop in order to spare the recent changes, i'll do so. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 15:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
I was more concerned about watchlist-pinging tbh :P --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 15:12, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh, i'm sorry for causing a mess in your watchlist^^ What about the remaining 15 links now - leave them alone; or update them, forfeit some more watchlist and RC trouble and get rid of the images? —ZerphatalkThe Improver 15:15, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Up to you. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 15:24, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Alright. There won't be a need to remove the deletion-tag from the image then^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 15:31, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


Came to say hi back from a whiles back and also i like the Polymock formation on your Sandbox :D Ganon 07:44, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

you can^^ thanks. i wanted to change my page like that actually since about a year ago already, but didn't do so yet since there's still an error with that page design when using it on my talk page D: —ZerphatalkThe Improver 10:37, 31 July 2009 (UTC)


I saw you in doomlore today... I mean other way round. :O --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg flame my shove sin bar! 15:51, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

yeah, kinda :D All-chat scammer warning is approved. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 15:58, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

User favorite weapon

Hi. Could you maybe edit Template:User favorite weapon, and add a 6th parameter that would allow users to easily change "is" to "are"? Daggers are plural. I'd edit it myself but I'm kind of lost when all those "ifs" start coming into play :/ Roar! Poki#3 (talk) 08:24, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Done :) poke | talk 14:09, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Poke helped Poki. Problem solved :D —ZerphatalkThe Improver 00:02, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, thanks to both of you ;] Roar! Poki#3 (talk) 08:58, 18 August 2009 (UTC)