Help:Ask a wiki question/Archive5

stub or cleanup

is there anything bad about using both tags? Because there are some articles that are both short and written bad. Antiarchangel 21:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I see no probs with that! RT | Talk - A joyous wintersday to all 21:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I tend to use {{stub}} on brand new pages until they are finished. Then later on if they get to far out of line or the {{stub}} is removed, then I just use {{cleanup}} — ク Eloc 貢 22:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Table or column background image.

Is there a way to give a table or table column a specific image as the background? If there isn't, is there an alternative way - such as use of a div and relative positioning? I'm trying to give a table a background - like result of the following, but customized to my given image.

class="skill-box Monk"

Any way to make it happen would be nice. Woop ‧ talk ‧ 00:33, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Using a div with relative positioning is the way to go since it's the only way that works without directly modifying the site-wide css. Example would be:

[[Image:<imagename>.jpg]]
<div style="position: relative; top: -<image height>px">
  <contents>

Note that there might be some margin between the image's bottom and the div's top, so you might have to add a few pixels to the top. — Galil 18:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Creating pages

How can i create a page to go on the wiki? Also, how can i add my Guild onto the wiki? can someone also help me with editing my user page. I have seen others and would like to add things such as user boxes, links to my characters?--Burning Freebies

To create a page, just search it and click on the red link at the top of the page if it currently already doesn't exist. To add userboxes to your page, see {{Userbox}}. — ク Eloc 貢 21:44, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

TOC

How can I made talk page header not go off the page as it currently is?. — ク Eloc 貢 21:40, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't specify a fixed width for the div containing it. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 21:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Nope, didn't work. Could you be more specific please? — ク Eloc 貢 22:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

You have two divs that contain it, one inside the other. One has a width of 196px, the other a width of 200px. Changing only one of them won't do much. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 22:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I tried what you said to do (I think) & it didn't work. How would I get it sort of like Emilys where as it limits how wide the TOC can get? — ク Eloc 貢 00:20, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Notice the special containing DIV that Emily's header encloses the TOC in, with a 100% width but margins set. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 00:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

God damnit, this is all to confusing. — ク Eloc 貢 00:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) What Aaiane is trying to say is that if you remove the width:196px; completely, the issue will go away. That raises another issue though, as you will notice. The thing with divs without specified width is that they span over the entire page, unless they're floated (which yours are). Then the rule changes so they only take up as much room as is required by their children. Normally, this is not a problem. On a wiki however, it can be since all text ends up in paragraph-elements and there is no way to bypass that. Paragraph-elements also take up as much room as possible. For you, this means the paragraph containing the archive-links will force the containing div to take up the whole page when you remove the widths. There are two solutions, both with pros and cons.

Either remove the width:196px; completely and gradually increase width:200px; until it looks good. The good part; it's the easiest way out. The bad part; it might not look good in other browsers, especially not if the browser in question doesn't have access to the same font as on your computer (i.e a mac or linux browser). The other way is to do what Emily did and use a table instead. The good part; it will work on pretty much any browser ever created. The bad part; it will require you to re-write most of your wiki-code, and the area to the direct left of your TOC-list will be white. Emily solved that by putting Answers to various questions there. It's up to you which one you go for though. — Galil 18:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Also note that if you go for the first way and the width of your TOC changes later on (due to archiving or someone adding a message with a very long title) it will look bad again. — Galil 18:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Removing the 196px doesn't fix it. — ク Eloc 貢 03:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Pets

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Creating Titles

When editing a page, how do you create a title? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Burning Freebies (talk).

What do you mean? — ク Eloc 貢 21:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I think Help:Editing could answer some of the basic questions you might have :) - anja 21:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your help --Burning Freebies 21:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Ticket

Can i post a scanned picture of my VIP ticket to the game works party after PAX 2007 on my user page?

I don't see why not. — ク Eloc 貢 06:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm wondering becuse its not actually from the game User:Nekozick

Ya, but it's a guildwars related thing and it's your ticket. Also, remember to sign your comments by click on the . — ク Eloc 貢 06:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok thank you so much very much appreciated User:Nekozick 1 January 2008 23:09

Np. — ク Eloc 貢 23:55, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Is Special:Upload working?

I've been trying to upload a couple images for a while now and it's not working at all. Are others able to upload? Woop ‧ talk ‧ 01:26, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

• It would seem as though others are able to post images. I'm still not able to. I have been able to in the past, with Safari. However, all today I haven't been able to with either Safari or Firefox. Woop ‧ talk ‧ 03:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

If your uploading new version of an image, you'll need to perform a hard refresh (CTRL + F5 with Firefox) to clear the cache to display the new image. Calor (t) 03:10, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Nope, just first time file uploads. Odd, isn't it? I'm not having network connectivity issues at all and I've been able to upload a bunch of pics before too. Thanks for the idea. If you have any more let me know! Woop ‧ talk ‧ 03:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you clarfiy what you mean by "not working"? Are you unable to upload any image? Or are you trying to upload a new version of an existing image? (if you can, link to the image page in question). The wiki has an image caching issue. If you uploaded a new version of an existing image, usually you won't be able to see the newly uploaded version until at least an hour later (but others who've never loaded the image before can see the new picture just fine). -- ab.er.rant 03:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure the comment just before yours states specifically that these are first-time uploads, ab.er.rant. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 04:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm trying to upload first-time images in JPG format on my broadband connection which is having no other upload issues. I've already made several image uploads in the past from right here with this browser.

When I submit the Upload form, it never completes. It goes on forever, as if it's uploading. We're talking about less than 200kb screenshots. I've checked on a separate window to see if the file had been uploaded and it wasn't directing me to the image page. That isn't the case. It's really strange. Somehow I got 1 to upload with IE7, but no more will can be uploaded. Woop ‧ talk ‧ 06:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Does the internet just kind of time out? — ク Eloc 貢 07:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I've had issues just like that, normally only when the server's going really slow, or my connection's slow. I think it does time out, or give up, after a little while... one thing I might suggest would be clearing your browser's cache, and cleaning up your temporary internet files (Start menu > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Disk Cleanup, and check off the Temporary Internet Files box). That might get rid of extra stuff slowing down your upload... not sure if it'll help though. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 08:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) My connection to the Internet doesn't time out, but the particular page on the wiki does. I can open another tab and see other GWW pages or other websites. I cleared my cache to try, but it doesn't change anything for me. Today, just a moment ago, I was able to post another image, and then another. I don't understand why it's only one out of many times that I'm able to upload, but I'll put up with it. I don't understand it, but I guess I don't need to. Thanks a lot for the help, everyone. Woop ‧ talk ‧ 17:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm stating the obvious here, but if it is a large image, it will just take a long time. Biscuits 18:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

"Under 200kb". Not very large; small to moderate sizes. Calor (t) 19:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

builds

Hi just wondering what happened to the builds pages i cant seem to find them anywhere on the web site. thanks in advance.

There is no builds page here. Try PvXWiki for builds. Calor (t) 01:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

They do however have wiki templates here that help with showing a build on user pages. Woop ‧ talk ‧ 01:38, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Category:Builds. Also, you're thinking of Guildwiki. This is Guild Wars Wiki. — ク Eloc 貢 10:26, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

However, the GWW does have a build template for people to use, which is perfect for user pages. Woop ‧ talk ‧ 17:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

There are no builds on GuildWiki either. Biscuits 13:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

The builds formerly a part of GuildWiki got split off into PvXWiki. I believe GuildWiki's recent ownership change caused an issue.

Actually, the split was a while before the Wikia deal. Problem with the old builds section is it was taking over the site, turning into a spawning pool for insults and vandalism, among other things. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 17:49, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

GWW IRC

I've herd a few times about a GWW IRC, but can't find a link to the channel anywehre? Does anyone know how I can connect? RT | Talk 16:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

The channel is irc://irc.gamesurge.net/gww. You may need to register at Gamesurge.net. Use an IRC client such as mIRC or Mozilla Chatzilla, or you could use the uber-slow client on the gamesurge website itself. -- Brains12 • Talk • 16:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I'm on chatzilla atm, so I'll reg now RT | Talk 16:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Or HydraIRC. And the funny thing is, I was gonna ask the exact same question here yesterday, but then figured it out. Calor (t) 19:23, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Accepting my site

Can i sysop please check the site i just created advertising my organised event? If you like it, can you create a link to it from the player organised events section please? If you have any queries about my site leave a message on my talk channel. The site is http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Festival_Disco --Burning Freebies 20:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

There is really no need for a sysop to check an article, anyone can do that (and will do, I'm sure). It looks great to me though, and of course feel free to add it to the list yourself! I'm not sure which list you want it on. - anja 12:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Signatures

I've seen some customized signatures, and I am wondering if you have to input the code separately every time. Will typing the four "~" give you your customized signature, or do you have to copy paste it from somewhere else every time? If typing the four "~" will automatically give you your customized signature, how/where do you set it up? Thanks. --People of Antioch 21:24, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Do you see the "my preferences" link at the top right of the site? Click on that, and enter in your customised signature on the Nickname field. Whenever you do the 4 ~, that signature will automatically come. Click the Raw Signature box. Ah, GWW:SIGN is useful to read for info and a few rules. -- Brains12 • Talk • 21:38, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Start off by reading GWW:SIGN. If you wish to use a graphic, upload it with a suitable name which, in your case would be something along the lines of , then enter the relevant information in preferences, making sure to tick the "Raw signatures (without automatic link)" box. As an example, my signature is formatted thusly:

'''[[User:Snograt|<span style="color:green">Snog</span>]]'''''[[User talk:Snograt|<span style="color:limegreen">rat</span>]]''[[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 

This will mean your new, nicely formatted signature will pop up when you type the four tildes. Good luck :) --Snograt 21:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I think I got it... People of Antioch talk 23:40, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Or now, added the contributions link... People of Antioch talk contri. 23:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...you can shorten it by redirecting the image to your contributions page and taking out the contributions link. Or do that with talk. But ortherwise, it's great. Calor (t) 01:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

How do I redirect it so the image represents the code for the contributions? People of Antioch talk contri. 04:15, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Go to the image and add the following code at the top #REDIRECT [[Special:Contributions/People of Antioch]] --Kakarot 04:19, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

It's not coming out. It's coming up in the image page like it the code above: in a dashed box. People of Antioch talk 04:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Fixed it for you, not sure what exactly was going wrong but it works now. --Kakarot 04:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you give the code? I can't see it because of the redirect, and I don't know how to bypass it.People of Antioch talk 05:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Use this link. Basically, for #redirect to work, you cannot have anything else before it or on the same line other than the target page. Your {{user image}} tag was on the same line, causing the redirect to fail. -- ab.er.rant 07:54, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, does the capitalization matter for the code? It does for most things I've seen on Wiki. --People of Antioch talk 18:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think so, I've always used small letters when redirecting and haven't had a problem but the code I posted above came from the Help:Editing page which I assume is correct as well. --Kakarot 19:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Uploading pictures.

Well, I'm sorry to ask this here. I bet it was probably already answered somewhere else, but I couldn't find anything about it. When I upload pictures of my characters, to use on my user page, what exactly should I call them? I don't want them to get deleted because of naming them the wrong thing... Essana 19:06, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

You need to follow the scheme User <user name> <image name>. Which would mean, for you, User Essana character.jpg for example. Just replace "character" with a name of your choice.(The Image: part in the start of the name is added automatically, no need to bother with that). This is also detailed better in GWW:IMAGE and GWW:USER, if I was unclear :) - anja 19:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Um...I tried that too, I don't know if it worked for Essana, but for me it says "." is not a recommended image file format. What does that mean? I was trying to upload a jpg... Reiauna 00:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Hm. Sounds like a typing error, like you accidentally did two dots instead of one, or forgot to put ".jpg" at the end of the destination filename... - anja 00:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I've always found that linking to the image first is the best way. Then you are left with a red link that you click and then upload the picture with no warnings (usually) -elviondale (tahlk) 01:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

About the "." error, yeah, I've found that to be the most unhelpful thing about this wiki. Anyway, check the format and the spelling. Like Elviondale said, it's best to make the link first, then click on the red link, then upload. --People of Antioch talk 03:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Er...well, I tried the whole making the link first thing, and that seems like it would work, but I can't figure out how to upload pics to a page like that. All I can see it the "embed image" thing, and that only works for pics that are already on here...and it wasn't a typing error on the regular upload page either. I don't know why it's not working. D: Reiauna 20:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

To put an image on a page, you type something like [[Image:Example.jpg]], but I guess you know that. If the image doesn't exist already, it becomes a red link you can click to get to an upload form. Upload the image there and it should be no problem. Just need to update the page to make it show :) Was there another problem I didn't get? - anja 20:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't know why, but I tried that, and it still says "." is not a recommended image file format. I think my account might have a bug or something... Reiauna 16:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Really weird. :/ - anja 16:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I fixed it. :D It all works now. Thanks all for the help. Reiauna 00:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

User Page Alignment

On my User Page I can't seem to get the Hall Services in a correct spot and there always seems to be an annoying line just under the blue divider. I want the image of Glorious God to sort of be independent of the rest, much like the guild info box. Can anyone help? --People of Antioch talk 04:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Ccccccrap. Wrong link. It's here.--People of Antioch talk 05:36, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I made a try to fix it, you can see the diff link to see what I did. I'm still curious why the celestial sigil misbehaves :/ - anja 08:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Sysops

How can you become a sysop on this wiki?

You will get familiar with our policies, read up on what a sysop is in GWW:ADMIN and then put yourself up at GWW:RFA. Then it's up to the community/bureaucrats to decide. :) - anja 16:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok thanx --Burning Freebies 16:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Need revert/ new version help please

I have an image that I uploaded a newer version over and it didn't display. This doesn't seem to be a cache issue since I've been clearing cache over and over, and trying a different browser.

Here is the original - http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/archive/4/4d/20080105224928%21User_Woop_Odion_Ra.png Here is the new one - http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/archive/4/4d/20080105225426%21User_Woop_Odion_Ra.png Here is the image page - http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Image:User_Woop_Odion_Ra.png

Thanks. Woop ‧ talk ‧ 23:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Odd, it must be the wiki-specific image caching problem. The current image appears to be the correct one - its properties say it is 156238 bytes, whereas the original is 175870 bytes. Give it a few hours :) --Snograt 23:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess you're right, and I guess it's pretty much working now. Maybe I asked a question too soon. Thanks Woop ‧ talk ‧ 00:33, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Ya, it's always good to give it about a day, or mark it for speedy deletion and upload it so that you don't have to wait that day period. — ク Eloc 貢 03:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

The cache that causes the problem is server-side, not browser-side (thus, clearing your browser's cache generally won't help much). (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 05:05, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

ScreenShots

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templates

im confused and have no idea how to set one up can anyone help me/tell me what to do/make one for me? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Dr Zlur .

Templates can in general be every page. You can include a page/template by using {{Pagename}}. Templates that are useful for everybody should be posted in the Template namespace (preceding Template:). For templates inside that namespace you don't need to add "Template:" in the inclusion code. Templates for your userpage (for example) should be placed in your user space. (User:Dr Zlur/templatename). You can pass parameters to templates by separating them with a pipe after the name: {{tl|templatename}} (for example). The parameters can be used by referring to {{{parametername}}}. Unnamed parameters are numbered starting by 1.

See also Guild Wars Wiki:Templates and Help:Template on meta. poke | talk 20:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

my guild web page

hi not sure if this is the right place to ask so sorry if it isn't

I've just done a guild web page and went into the preview of it and it runs off the side of the page so everything is on one or two lines how do i stop this doing this and change it back to what it should be--Hells 10:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC)peter

I just fixed it for you, I believe. The problem was in the paragraphs; you were starting new lines of text by indenting with spacebar, which gives you

this coding

instead of what you want it to be. I took out the extra spaces and just added

linebreaks

instead, so you've got what I assume you were going for now (but without the coding problem). If you were trying to indent the text, you can just add a colon or two in front of the text and it'll be indented (if you edit this section, you'll see how I indented my post, for example). -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:02, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Gee thanks alot and yes that was what i was looking for once a again thank you--Hells 17:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

How do you flag a page for deletion?

I'll let you take care of this, whoever answers my question: http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=Elona_Reach_%28explorable_area%29&redirect=no There is no such thing. I asked for it to be deleted on the talkpage but nobody visisted it obviously. :) Thanks in advance. --Mango 01:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Oops, never mind. =X I found it in templates (

{{delete|Regular deletion reason}} ) Thanks, I'll flag it now. Mango

Tables in WIki

I have a Table in my userspace setup with 4 tables nested inside. I want to be able to 'align' the nested tables to the top of the original table. See User:Rappy/Rappy The Holy One/Titles. I want to be able to have Protector/Guardian even with the height of Core on the opposite side. I have tried valign and align="top" in several spots but I believe it is done another way. Can anyone help? --Rappy 04:52, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Fixed it for you (unless I misunderstood) :) You probably tried valign in the wrong spot - it needs to be specified at the outermost table. -- ab.er.rant 13:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks ab.er.rant, I had the valign in the individual tables, not the main one =p Rappy 01:49, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Adding pictures

Sorry to keep asking stuff its cause i dont know how to use this wiki well. How do you upload pictures onto a certain page? (eg. How do i get a picture of my character onto my character discription page?) thanx for any help. --Burning Freebies 21:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images, and Guild Wars Wiki:Image use. Biscuits 21:59, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Tree of Rebirth

It was in the Tree catagory but not the Tree Bosses catagory so I tried to move it and I'm not doing something right. Can someone tell me where I went wrong for future reference? (and maybe fix it while you're at it) 65.30.33.162 01:32, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't quite understand your question. Please rephrase it to make more sense. — ク Eloc 貢 02:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

If you're talking about Tree of Regrowth, categories are case-sensitive, the category is Category:Tree bosses, not Category:Tree Bosses, the page has been fixed. -- Gordon Ecker 03:13, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

diffchange in monobook.css

I'm trying to edit my monobook.css file so that differences are bolded like they are on Wikipedia. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. -- Gordon Ecker 03:15, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Assuming I understand what you mean, adding .diff-addedline, .diff-deletedline { font-weight: bold } should be enough. — Galil 05:53, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

After looking at your css-file, I think it might not be what you were looking for after all. If you're using monobook as skin though (which I assume you are, since you're modifying monobook.css), the diffs should already be bolded, without adding it yourself since it's defined in /skins/monobook/main.css?42b on row 594. If you still need to add it for some reason though, it would most likely mean you're using some other custom css too, and in that case you might have to add the !important keyword, like; font-weight: bold !important;. — Galil 06:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what the problem is. In both IE 6 and IE 7 the text is not rendered bold even when I'm logged out. In Firefox the text is only rendered bold when the text size is larger than default. I've set it up to underline diffs, which also works. -- Gordon Ecker 08:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

By default for me diffchanges are Bolded, both in IE and Firefox... it's got to be something in your current CSS that's turning that off. Does any of your CSS coding currently do have anything to do with your watchlist? Perhaps some trial-and-error editing/removal of the code might pinpoint the problem. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 09:07, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't remember why I imported the custom CSS or what it's supposed to do, but it's imported from User:LordBiro/Skill_infobox.css. I've removed the custom CSS, but I don't think that CSS is the problem because the bold rendening doesn't work even when I'm logged out. I get the same problem on mediawiki.org, but not on wikipedia, even though their monobook main.css files are identical. -- Gordon Ecker 10:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

If you use firefox, Firebug is by far the 2nd best plugin you can get. Right click whatever thing you want to, click inspect element, and it shows ever ounce of css applied to an item, including those that are overridden by another style or class. -elviondale (tahlk) 13:00, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I have alot of custom css, but I still view all red diff words/lines in bold, just like wikipedia. It's just less visible here, we seem to use a smaller font or a different font from them. Seems really weird if it's not even working when you're not logged in. - anja 15:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Last edited

Curious, is there a way to have a page display the last time it was edited. I used ~~~~~ to show that the first time, then noticed that afterwards it was replaced with the actual time on the page. I'd like to make my character pages show when the last edit was without having to use replace the date/time with ~~~~~ each time. Any suggestions? Rappy 20:48, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

there's the history next to the edit button. it shows whenever an article gets edited. that's enough, isn't it? - Y0_ich_halt 20:50, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

At the bottom of every page, next to the ArenaNet logo, it tells you when the page was last modified. Biscuits 21:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Does that actually work? I see "This page was last modified 20:50, 11 January 2008.". The last was obviously 21:37, 11 January 2008 -- Brains12 • Talk • 21:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

And it just rrefreshed to 21.37... *cough* -- Brains12 • Talk • 21:40, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Seems like it's either the second-last edit, or a server-side delay. Biscuits 21:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

cache? - Y0_ich_halt 22:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Not everyone looks down there to see when the page was last edited. I wanted to be able to put the last edited time at the top of the page where the pertinent information is. Just wondering if there was an easier way than having to manually edit the file each time. Can I link to a Template that simply returns ~~~~~ or will the template itself return the value of when you created it once it's saved? Rappy 22:09, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

you could create one page that only contains "~", then include that five times on another page, and then include that page... but don't you think anyone who's actually interested would look down there to see when the last edit was? - Y0_ich_halt 22:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) There are some MediaWiki variables that can be used for this, see here for details (specifically, look at the variables whose names begin with 'revision'). (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 01:01, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Guild name

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Account Lost but I still have the Access Key Card

← moved to HELP:ACCOUNT

Wikitables?

I've been seeing a lot of wikitables on some user pages that look very nice. Is there anyway I can make one myself? And what steps must I take to do so? Thanks. --People of Antioch talk 02:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[1] should cover most, if not all of it. Calor (t) 03:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

It's different though, on these user pages, there isn't a whole lot of clutter in the code., but it looks complex when you see it on the page. --People of Antioch talk 04:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

That would be templates. -- ab.er.rant 04:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

So that's what's going on behind the scenes? A simple template with complex code? Okay. Thanks. (I still have to learn wiki code that is advanced!) --People of Antioch talk 04:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Not really, you just find a template that somebody who does know it has made, and use that! :D Biscuits 08:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Could also see Category:Users providing user page layouts. :) — Galil 08:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

User:Y0 ich halt/Templates <- if you need something. and tell me if you got ideas for stuff that's not already there. oh, Category:User templates is also nice. - Y0_ich_halt 17:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I mean, it would be a good experience (and excuse) to learn more of the "language" of wiki. Can anyone point me in a direction on how to start one, then shortcut it (someday when I finish it) to a template? It would be very helpful, as I'd like to give back *somehow* after taking so much from this wiki. You guys rock! If not, I'll continue along my way, and perhaps learn some other things first before tackling something too big for me. Thanks again! --People of Antioch talk 19:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) If you don't feel too confident about your knowledge about wiki-formatting, I personally would suggest getting the hang of that before getting into templates. Wikipedia has a good article about wikiformatting at Wikipedia:How to edit a page. Go wild in the sandbox and play around a bit (or create your own sandbox in your userspace, like User:People of Antioch/Sandbox). After you feel confident enough, there's the article at wikimedia about templates. The same as ab.er.rant linked to above. Good luck! — Galil 20:20, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

If I make, said sandbox, is it subject to wiping like the normal Sandbox is? --People of Antioch talk 20:33, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Nope. Any and all pages you create in your userspace is entirely up to yourself to manage. Any wiping will either be a vandal or yourself. — Galil 20:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'll see what I can do, thank you very much. Keep an eye on this and my other pages. I'd like to know how I'm doing and constructive comments are always welcome. --People of Antioch talk 21:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

offline format program?

anybody know of a offline wysywig program that works like frontpage, coffee cup etc but for wiki formatting? only im a little annoyed at trying to create my user page to find ive glitched something stupid and dont want to clog up the recent changes trying to put it right. Melhei Haemathet 17:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Use the Show preview button before saving. ;) About a wysiwyg gui for wikis; Wikiwyg is in the workings. Not too sure of the current status though, or how one would go about installing it. The best way would most likely be to create a js-file in your userspace and load that from your monobook.js. I realize I might be a bit tecnhnical about things, especially if you're not into javascript but that's what I've found. — Galil 20:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Not too techie for me, however maybe for some! As for the preview button, its fine, however on one edit I managed to misconfigure the general/overall wrapper leaving the left menu at the bottom... something that couldnt be seen in preview as preview is a window showing page content only. Turned out I had left a solitary tag open... however wasnt a visible issue till save was clicked. Hope they sort that program out soon, may help a lot of people. Im going to set up a personal version of wiki on our home network using a apache shell to practice on in the mean time... not exactly possible for most people I guess. Melhei Haemathet 20:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry too much about clogging RC. While you should try to avoid it when possible, making a mistake is understandable and no one is going to hunt you down or block you over it. RC is pretty quick-moving and things typically fall off it after at most an hour anyways. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 05:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

pets

← moved to Help:GAME

Abandoned quest

← moved to Help:GAME

Additonal Storage for Armour

← moved to User talk:Gaile Gray/Guild Wars suggestions

get on the game

← moved to HELP:GAME#get on the game

Best Build for a Warrior/Elementalist-- Why can't you have more than one Elite Skill

← moved to Help:Ask a game question

Signatures (2)

I have a 19x19 tiny image and would like to know how people edit their signatures to be unique but within the rules, regs etc

Look up ^ Rappy 05:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

GWW:SIGN MisterPepe talk 05:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Dutch wiki?

I want to make a dutch wiki and my question is if i may translate the wiki.guildwars.com to dutch and make wiki also for dutch people avaible--80.56.121.129 09:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

i'm not sure, but afaik if you put your wiki under the GNU license it's ok. can someone who's sure clarify this please? - Y0_ich_halt 22:55, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

It would be fine as long as your wiki is released under GFDL. — ク Eloc 貢 02:41, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

It may be worth speaking to an ArenaNet member (maybe Emily?) to see if these two wikis could partner up? -- Brains12 • Talk • 14:11, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Koris Deeprunner

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Template

I understand that if you create a template in the main section you can use {{template name}} anywhere without prefixing the Template: at the beginning, but what about templates created in your own userspace? Is there a way to shorten the naming to recall it later? IE User:Rappy/Template:Titles Also, templates created in this manner that others can use, can they be added to the list of templates so others know about them? —Rappy 15:07, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

The "Template:" namespace is for general-use templates. For user templates, you don't need to prefix with "Template:"; that's just for the namespace. So your template would work just as well if you called it "User:Rappy/Titles". For user templates, try Category:User templates, but it's pretty messy :) -- ab.er.rant 17:25, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Afaik, there is no way to shorten the name in calls for templates in user space, you need to type out the whole article name. An exception would be if you are using your template on User:Rappy and the template is on a subpage of that, then you may be able to use "{{:/Template:Titles}}", for example. That link only works on your main user page and nowhere else. - anja 17:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

don't even need the colon :P and if you're interested, i got some stuff at User:Y0_ich_halt/Templates. - Y0_ich_halt 19:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

*cough*Pissoff*cough* Nice templates, y0. Calor (t) 19:42, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Calor, took me a couple hours to do them =p User:Rappy/Titles - User:Rappy/Titles2 - User:Rappy/Titles3 - User:Rappy/Titles4 - User:Rappy/Titles5 All dynamic based on current value. — Rappy 20:21, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

looks nice. - Y0_ich_halt 22:24, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Account info

I forgot my password for GWW and thus cannot log in. And to top things off, the button to email your password to you thinks I don't have one listed (keeps saying no valid email address exists for my username - which is utter garbage), so I can't retrieve it. Any other way to find out your password? I've already exhausted all the one I use for things or have written on paper under the heading "Passwords". 209.29.109.49 20:16, 20 January 2008 (UTC) (even though signing in is pointless because I'm not logged in and all that)

I can edit my own userpage, I guess (Mesodreth Blackwing) but that's maddeningly unhelpful when I can't log in. I'd like to know at least if my options are limited to "revert to anonymous" or make a new account.

(Edit conflict) Hmm, providing an e-mail address is optional, so it may not be utter garbage. I'm not sure what you can do if you didn't provide one though, as there is no way to prove your identity. Biscuits 23:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

No, no. I mean it's utter garbage that it's telling me I didn't put one which is what I did the LAST time I forgot my password (after which I wrote it down but which isn't working this time around). I hate to assume the worst but it's possible someone hacked it and changed. Can anyone see if there's any "vandalism" edits to pages with my username?

Well, I guess I can make a new account, it's not like I really even play my necro anymore >.> *goes and does*

If you're interested, you can keep an eye on it. Special:Contributions/Mesodreth_Blackwing. Biscuits 09:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't know that it matters much, but I have run into the same problem. Wiki says I don't have an email address specified, but I have copies of past password resets sent from the wiki to me. I'll probably end up doing something like Blackwing ended up doing. 70.234.251.217 03:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

New template?

The template {{Template:Inuse}} has been used on wikipedia and other wiki related sites, so why not here? For those in the crowd who don't know, this template marks the particular article to only be edited by one person. Much like a "Under Construction" or "Work In Progress" sign, this lets people know not to interfere with a page until it is done. My evidence on the matter is this...

• "I myself hasn't needed one so far so I'm not sure if there already is one, but reading at the top of User talk:Helena it's easy to tell it has been needed in the past. :P — Galil 23:57, 14 January 2008 (UTC)"

Sure, the argument is old, but the template could be utilized as a "just in case" measure. --People of Antioch talk 22:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

idk... i think it's kinda redundant with {{stub}} - Y0_ich_halt 22:25, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Not exactly. It is basically a major edit sign, someone can leave it for a while, and come back to the page unaltered. Again, it's a "do not edit, I'm not done yet" basically. --People of Antioch talk 23:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, surely, any contributions by anyone is going to be useful to the page? So why leave it to only one person?-- Brains12 • Talk • 23:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I think I'm being misunderstood. If a user has a particular format in mind, then has to log off, leaving his work half-finished. Other people jump on it, saying it's not proper, and the page gets deleted. The poor guy has to start over and work longer. I just suggested it as a tool for ease of use. Follow the link I also used at the start, you'll see what I mean. --People of Antioch talk 23:11, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

When has a page been deleted under an editor's feet because it's not "proper" and completed on this wiki? I wouldn't mind some specific examples (Guild namespace aside, of course). --Dirigible 23:30, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

It's basically a preventive measure. I haven't been here long enough to see one, but I'm sure it will come up sometime, especially in Guild Wars 2 --People of Antioch talk 23:35, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't like the thought of discouraging other editors from improving an article. Work in progress can be kept in a personal sandbox until it's ready to be implemented. We don't have the same edit activity as wikipedia, so edit conflicts are not a major problem most of the time. - anja 23:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Not really but seemed like the right thing to do Anja :P Anyway I'd have to agree with Brains as well as Anja about this. I don't like the idea of restricting edits to one user, which is kinda what this would suggest. --Kakarot 23:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Okay, sounds good. Thanks for listening though! --People of Antioch talk 23:52, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Ack, just realized the irony in the last few messages. lol --People of Antioch talk 23:53, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

as for the case if someone deletes the page, {{stub}} should indeed help with that :P - Y0_ich_halt 21:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC)