Talk:Lore

More Info?

I know there's more lore on a lot of stuff in these catagories. can anyone fill them in?

Rework needed

Rather than a list (which is simply reproducing the contents of Category:Lore), I think this should be a text description of what constitutes "lore" in the Guild Wars universe with a link to the category for the list of related articles. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 14:42, 6 April 2007 (EDT)

this page seems to be a little redundent and pointless the lore link on the main page should link directly to the catagory:lore section. Arcane Law 00:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so. I agree with Barek. Seeing a huge list of many small chunks of information in the category concerning Tyria's past is very unappealing, and I wouldn't feel very inclined to just randomly click one of them. Having a nice, organized version I feel would make it a lot more inviting for people to learn. Perhaps consider the page a portal to the more in-depth accounts of lore. --Talonz // 08:05, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I think I'll work on this myself... --Talonz // 08:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I think what I did today was a good start to this! --Talonz // 08:25, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

The Forgotten..

I think the bit after talking about the Giganticus Lupicus should be changed. It says that the Forgotten were summoned from the Rift, which is the center of the Mists. Instead it should probably say that they were summoned from across the Mists. The reason I say this is because we don't have a definitive on the Forgotten's homeworld. Gmr Leon 22:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Seeing as you seem to be a lore master, I'd say "be bold". Change what is wrong/misleading :) - anja 23:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

It should also be changed because Giganticus Lupicus would basically be "Giant Dog/Canine" NOT "Great Giant" -_-

All three continents?

Is it confirmed that the three continents we know are the only three? I understood the number of continents was not yet known (there might be a lot more continents). Etienne 16:59, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

When there is more, we'll add more. -- ab.er.rant 17:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

My understanding is that Guild Wars 2 is a breakaway from the world we know, from the three existing continents, to a new world. This would leave the "first" Guild Wars, as it will coem to exist as, as a finished product and not to be changed. Therein, the three continents would remain the only continents; any others would remain as pure speculation or as legend, such as Orr. --72.148.243.147 02:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Mr. I.P. that is incorrect, GW2 takes place in the continent of Tyria *and maybe combined with Elona's Northwest area *Crystal Desert as a whole (which includes the Desolation and between the two)*. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 03:35, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I've replaced "After the Exodus, the three continents plunged into very different situations." with "After the Exodus, the three known continents plunged into very different situations.". -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 07:49, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

rotscale

were is the lore on rotscale the bonedragon entety i know were his page is but not his lore page at his trivia theres a mention of lore--Lord randy taylor 21:45, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Rotscale. --Talonz // 22:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

what i men was the lore page on him not the page of the enemey, cause its stated in lroe and id like to see thta but cannot ifnd it--Lord randy taylor 01:52, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

The lore on Rotscale is in the first paragraph of Rotscale's page - and the rest would be on the bottom of the page via a link. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 03:33, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

until someone provides links to half this shit there's no reason to believe some shitter didn't just pull this out of his ass

moo — derp de derp derp a tum tee tiddly tum ta tum Maf 19:03, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

If you can't define exactly what you're disputing, I'll be removing the tag. Your current edit is not how it is meant to be used. -- FreedomBound 19:05, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't care how the template is "meant" to be used. If you really want, I can just add a tag under every single section, if this is a prerequisite to actually addressing the point I'm making. — derp de derp derp a tum tee tiddly tum ta tum Maf

Go fuck yourself pls, your wikipediass QQ is no good here. 67.159.44.138 19:14, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

There is Nothing to Dispute. I don't see your problem Mafaraxas. Please don't revert again Mafaraxes , because you would break the 1RR rule.♥ Ariyen ♀ 19:15, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

oh no, not 1RR, whatever will I do? So does anyone have a problem with me including the history of the ooze in this article? I've written something up on the side and I think it will contribute greatly to the lore we currently have here. — derp de derp derp a tum tee tiddly tum ta tum Maf 19:51, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I can't really see how that'd fit. It's not part of the Main storylines. ♥ Ariyen ♀ 21:02, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

they're highly related to the story, the player character has to struggle against them to unite the Asura to overcome the Destroyers. Surely knowing the lore of the ooze would really help increase the depth of the game. just because it doesn't have a face doesn't mean it doesn't have feelings. — derp de derp derp a tum tee tiddly tum ta tum Maf 23:07, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Firstly maf, change your sig, its disruptively long and unneeded. Secondly please point out the bits of the article which are not based on official Anet lore and I will begin removing the unsubstantiated sections. Also no this is not the place for fan fiction, so don't add your ooze stuff. -- Salome 23:21, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Sources? Ok, I'll make it easy on you:

• Birth of the World:History of Tyria and An Empire Divided
• The Early Human Era: History of Tyria
• Tyria in Distress: Prophecies Manual (specifically Lord Odran entry, Ascalon entry, Orr entry, and Kryta entry, Jalis Ironhammer entry [no quote of on wiki page - it only has the EN entry on him] - see the quoted portions), Caromi and Centaur sentence is based on in game observation and dialogue.
• The Empire's Problems: An Empire Divided, Togo's Story, Day of the Tengu, and a few other in-game dialogue on Kanaxai and Urgoz.
• Disease, Death, and Undeath: Nightfall Manual (specifically Scarab Plague, Shattered Dynasty Era, and Turai Ossa entries).
• A Recent Plight: Eye of the North Manual (various entries), and a few in-game descriptions in EN, and the M.O.X. quests.

Dates were taken from Timeline. Trust me, nothing there is theory or fake. I didn't even put in things which are commonly disputed! -- Konig/talk 00:31, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Shortening the Current Page

I think if it was reworded or so shorted just enough that people wouldn't spend too long reading on it. I don't suggest splits as that wouldn't work for Lore . it's not what I think the Page would even stand for. After all we have links at the bottom to the history of each continent, Maybe just a smaller history of the main of all three, basically what links all three together. 173.23.84.231 18:58, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

If all of the info is substantiated by ANET lore then personally I see no reason to change the page. -- Salome 19:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I suppose a few sentences could be removed/combined. But the Lore Page was meant to be a summary/introduction to lore. The first two sections show the overall "very long before the game" lore (which only exists elsewhere in the official articles except for a little on Gods of Tyria and Tyria (world) - both which pertains to the exodus and giving magic), the third is specific pre-game lore of the individual games. If I wanted, I could have made it probably twice as long, this is a short version of a full summary. Anything less would be creating a stub article. The Lore page is summarizing History of Tyria (work), An Empire Divided, History of Cantha, History of Elona, GW:EN and Now, Storyline of Prophecies, Storyline of Factions, Storyline of Nightfall, and Storyline of Eye of the North (which those storyline pages should be completed... Maybe a later project) while keeping out spoilers. Personally, I think it is a good summary. -- Konig/talk 23:42, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I still say this is a great page so why the banner. I dont think it is long as long as it describes all that it has to describe.--Yours faithfully Wysth 16:33, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Uh oh...

Either I really need to go to bed, or I dunno, but their is nothing on Abaddon or Kormir or Nightfall... Why?--Happy Fourth of July all! Necro Shea Mo 04:33, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Kormir for spoiler reasons and this is meant as a "brief summary" - Nightfall should be added along with other recent Elonian events - Abaddon is in the article, re-read The Early Human Era section, first paragraph, second sentence, along with third paragraph. Konig/talk 07:03, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

I ment nightfall wise. But, yes he is breifly mentioned. Say, where is it said that only abaddon gave magic into the world? (Evidence please!)-- Necro Shea Mo 13:33, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

It originally came from the Taiwanese version of gw.com, however that entire site has been taken down and thus the original page is now lost. The "closest" source we get now is a fan-made translation over on the unofficial wiki (Abaddon's talk page's archive). Konig/talk 16:24, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

I also heard some other-interesting things-that came from the Taiwanese site, and they weren't true...-- Necro Shea Mo 19:48, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Quite vague, you are, and we've got nothing to dispute what was on an official site. Care to share what you "heard" that "weren't true"? Konig/talk 19:57, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Something about "seers of twilight" and that they corrupted Abaddon (confusing as that is, that page was removed.)-- Necro Shea Mo 23:44, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

I know what you speak of. That was someone putting fan fiction onto gw2:Lore, and was removed (e.g., deleted) forthwith. Because of its deletion, it doesn't even remain in the page's history, though discussion on it still exists. To summarize what you once read which I never had the "pleasure" to: "It took my entire Guild to write the Mystic Tomes which is where this comes from." signed the IP who wrote that, on the talk page of the GW@W Lore article (aka second link). Konig/talk 02:18, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, Konig.-- Necro Shea Mo 02:21, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Giganticus Lupicus

The article states remnants scattered around the World and points explorable areas. I wish we could have a gallery displaying such discovery/recoveries that enrich our game's lore culture. Yoshida Keiji talk 02:35, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Made a minor correction to that paragraph as those are merely suspected - though highly likely and unanimously agreed upon, nothing actually states those are GL bones. Anyways, such images would be best left placed on Giganticus Lupicus (same with images for other article themes) rather than here. Konig/talk 04:30, 31 January 2012 (UTC)