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Dear brains (lol)

I am trying to make a quest checklist on my page, so I know which quests I did and which ones I didn't, but I don't know how. I tried just copying this, but it looked broken. Can you pleez help me ? I'm trying to make it like this:

Quest        | Completed  | Comment  
(quest name)   |y| or |n|   Blahblah

Thanks in advance and sorry to bug you :P ^^ User MadSkillz1o1 Smail.jpeg MadSkillz1o1 18:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Templates aren't really my thing, some of these guys could help you there. Although I'm guessing you'd need to adapt the Template:Quest checklist code for yourself (i.e. create your own template in your userspace with only the parameters you need). --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 21:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
I did that already ^.^ --User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 22:16, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

in-line icon templates

-> BU <- I understand what you mean, but where does it say so? One icon shouldn't clutter a small text imo --User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 17:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether there's a guide or something about it, but I do remember a couple of discussions about using icon templates in lists and not within lines. (Although I can't remember where those discussions are.) It's not really about clutter, but about readability - the icons within text sort of take away the natural flow of reading.. or something. I suppose it would help if I could explain it better. It would be like having bullet points in-line, if you get what I mean. Anja is someone who I recall agrees with this, and I think she can explain it better than I can :P. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 21:12, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Icons inline often disrupts the line height and draws unnecessary attention to details instead of the whole text. It also disrupts reading, as Brains says. We disallow big sig icons since they disrupt line height, and I think the same style guidelines should be applied on articles.
The use of the skill icon template is a bit of a compromise, the icon is the main thing you identify the skill with in many cases. I'm still opposed to using it inline for the reasons above, but there are borderline cases :) - anja talk 08:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
The skill icons are best when at the beginning of the line, like in the game update notes. That way they provide the visual identification of the skill without interrupting the readability of the text. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 08:55, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


I stumbled into a problem. When I was going to check if the in-game f10 redirect link for todays Zaishen Mission (Ruin of Morah) was set up properly, it lead me here. I don't know how to fix it... Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. -Lena™ User Lena Sig.png talk 21:08, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. If you need to edit an already-created game link, put the title of the game link in the url and add "?action=edit" in front of it. For example, --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 21:24, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Omg you jerk I wanted to fix it!. Why else would I wait 28239764867^3049e329640221ouhj2397 years for an answer? T__________T My life is now a little bit more duller thanks to you. :( -Lena™ User Lena Sig.png talk 21:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I aim to please. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 22:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Lol. xD -Lena™ User Lena Sig.png talk 22:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Atleast he doesn't aim to kill. Or does he? >.> — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 22:20, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Not that again.. :S poke | talk 07:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Those charges were dropped, Jon --Shadowphoenix User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png 16:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Bcrat Elections

Just to double check, is there a contrib requirement to be nominated? All I'm seeing is the requirement to vote, nothing about being nominated. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 21:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Nope. Vili 点 User talk:Vili 21:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
No, the contribution requirement for voting is mostly only there to prevent easy socking and to help keep demagoguery from playing too large a role in elections. Since a nominee still has to actually win the election, there's no such requirement for nomination. :) Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 04:25, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Brains. Just ignore that IP. It's a friend of mine from PvX being retarded. Thanks for the fast catch though. Karate Jesus 21:39, 10 June 2009

NPA. :) Boro 10px‎ 06:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Incorrect IP

thanks for that catch brains... I thought your post was crazy til I went back and compared the IP >< I was sure I followed links to that talk page but I must have misclicked somehow... moved to User talk: instead MrPaladin talk 13:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Since there was only a one-number difference between the two, I don't blame you for mixing them up - it's likely the same person anyway. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 13:31, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Admin Noticeboard

My apologies for discussing things where they shouldn't have been discussed. You may remove the comment if you wish. 13:51, 21 June 2009 (UTC)



--Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg flame my shove sin bar! 00:10, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

bloop --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 00:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
New page looks weird, plus I don't like the image :/ poke | talk 10:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
It's not my fault you have no sense of style or design. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 16:15, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
pfff! poke | talk 16:18, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't think you're bored, or carrying out some personal agenda.

I'll do better to avoid blanket statements in the future. User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 04:28, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


Thankyou so much for fixing my redirects (fdue to me moving pages around) :)

Cheers! Veldrik 14:03, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

np --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 14:04, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I love you guys!

<3 User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 20:52, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

And I love you. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 20:56, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


Guess who has bfme2? P.s Guess who this is! The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) at 09:58, 28 July 2009 (UTC).


:O (we need a {{muffin}} template imo, so go make an icon!) poke | talk 20:40, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Cupcake*. And NO TEMPLATES OR IMAGES OR ANYTHING. I regret making that wub icon... --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 20:46, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
I </3 that icon, and I'm glad you've decided to stop supporting that sort of wiki foulness. User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 21:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Aww :( poke | talk 21:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Why'd you decide a muffin template was necessary? I've never had the compulsion to annotate any of my wiki-writings with a muffin. User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 21:21, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
The important thing is: Why not? :P poke | talk 21:28, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Mind a muffin, Raine? --User Ezekial Riddle bigsig.pngRiddle 21:28, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
I had one with cranberries yesterday. It was warm and soft and delicious. User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 21:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
And this is why we need a muffin template :P --User Ezekial Riddle bigsig.pngRiddle 21:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
So we can tantalize wiki users with an empty, pixellated depiction? That's just sadistic. User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 21:53, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
We don't do that all ready? User Brains12 cake.png --User Ezekial Riddle bigsig.pngRiddle 21:57, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
That cake is not at all tantalizing; to create a muffin in similar fashion would be heresy. User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 22:00, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Err...User Eloc Jcg cookie.jpg --User Ezekial Riddle bigsig.pngRiddle 22:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm not usually partial to chocolate chip, but I will admit, I find Pling's user page pretty attractive. User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 22:11, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Muffin! :D Titani User Titani Ertan Sig2.jpg Ertan {{Snappy the Turtle}} 20:28, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
............ --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 20:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Muffins- 1, Brains- 0. Titani User Titani Ertan Sig2.jpg Ertan {{Snappy the Turtle}} 20:43, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
poke is right though... User Y0 ich halt muffin.png - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 15:12, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


Oops. It's been a while, cut me some slack! xD-- User Vanguard VanguardLogo.pnganguard 01:21, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I replied to the topic :P

^ --Yo Jm Talk to me 06:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Noctarch & Interface

So, now we're both here - been called by my sister. I am this: Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 20:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

..what? --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 20:24, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Ah, it makes sense when combined with your edit summary. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 20:25, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
He just forgot to log off and I am sorry if I messed anything up. Oh, I am User talk:Interface v.v 20:26, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Brains, Oh, well I really just wanted to say I think I most probuably almost kind of love you. Like I really do. I love all you do here, and i'm just much too fond of you. Sincerly Lorena Bobbet Aka Slayer0736 06:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)



Just passing by. :p Also wanna let you know that I wtb Golden Rin Relics! --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg flame my shove sin bar! + WTB GOLDEN RIN RELICS!! 23:51, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

You might want to take that out of your signature - it's too long, and you shouldn't be using it for advertising/trading. And I don't have any. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 23:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I was mostly just passing by. Also, can I keep it till I get 16 more pleeeaaasseeee? I will remove then. Also, nobody has them Relics grrr! >.< --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg flame my shove sin bar! + WTB GOLDEN RIN RELICS!! 23:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Nope, you can't. Use guru or other trading fansites to buy stuff; this isn't one. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 23:58, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Meanie, I still wtb Rin Relics. >: --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg flame my shove sin bar! + WTB GOLDEN RIN RELICS!! 09:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


Just letting you know that I have bought all the Relics and got my Dread mask. I will remove the notice from my siggy shortly. Also, my war is VERY sexy now. :3 --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg flame my shove sin bar! + WTB GOLDEN RIN RELICS!! 13:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Not shortly, immediately please. poke | talk 15:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
If I wanted to remove it before making the next contrib anyway (which is now) how would it matter if I removed the noticed shortly or immediately? Also, I need to post a screenie of my sexy warrior for you to see! :O --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg flame my shove sin bar! 00:16, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Hai! :D

We have lots of skill animations uploaded; is there any plan to upload skill sounds? A lot of sounds (Frenzy and Diversion) have very recognizable sounds; knowing these is almost as, if not more, important than knowing their animations.

Business aside, how's life? How's the wife? How are the children doing? Did you get that promotion? :D User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 16:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Guild Wars Wiki talk:Projects/Skill sounds. It is there, but it requires more ANet input... poke | talk 16:55, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
No life, no wife, no children, no job. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 17:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
being bureacrat on a videogame wiki is far more important. --Cursed Angel Q.Q 17:19, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
You seem like a responsible, upright individual - why d'you have no wife, children, or job? That last one especially confuses me. User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 17:28, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
CA, I also live a wifeless, childless life; there's no shame in that. User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 17:28, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Slightly off topic, but skill sounds matter? I've not played GW with sound in forever (mostly because I'm bad and get confused when people are talking in vent and GW makes sounds), and in my experience just knowing the animations is enough. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png{{Bacon}} 18:43, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
17 year olds generally don't have wives or children, and lazy ones generally don't have jobs. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 19:58, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
You're too much of a busybody to be lazy. D': User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 20:45, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
You're good, Armond, but this is why you'll never be pro. Vili 点 User talk:Vili 20:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Feedback area

The new licensing is already in place for the feedback area, so everything we have done in it is already licensed to anet. (Satanael 22:33, 13 August 2009 (UTC))

Since I originally wrote that message, I needed to be the one to release it under the ArenaNet license. It's like how we can't move comments from a non-Feedback namespace to the Feedback namespace; the original author needs to agree to the license (i.e. post in the Feedback namespace), right? If I'm getting that wrong, then I'm not sure why we're recreating every dev talk page there. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 22:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that was me having a brain fart moment... sorry :( -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 22:38, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Didn't cause me any harm, don't worry :P --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 22:39, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
yeah, brain fart for me too, I thought you wrote it just now, not a year ago... (Satanael 22:41, 13 August 2009 (UTC))
It will probably be removed soon enough, though - chip in at GWWT:TALK#izzy, ursan. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 23:12, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


You evil people, talking about me behind my back.... I will never admit to doing all that! — Galil Talk page 02:12, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

It's your fault for turning your back against us in the first place. - anja talk 07:03, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
That was the most awesome discussion in the whole era of GWW.. poke | talk 13:15, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Wow, I'd forgotten that... discussion. (What led you to scour my archives for it, by the way?) --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 13:55, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you afterwards. Or it could be this...Galil Talk page 17:23, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


Sorry about that Brains, it seems I left my Wiki account logged in on my computer when I left earlier, thanks for reverting it, I was just about to when the wiki decided to have a major slow down (probably from someone banning my account) Baddock User SirBaddock Sig.jpg 15:54, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Your account wasn't banned (see the block log), the wiki sometimes randomly goes through slow periods. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 16:53, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that, he was everywhere. Shadow Shadow Runner sig 1.jpg Runner 15:29, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Ditto that. -- Hong 15:34, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but no

If you can then I.p. ban me but I'm not the type of person who's gonna just take shit from people. I can be reasonable if you have something to criticize do it in a rational manner and give a decent reason. "Fail player is Fail"-Lilondra . THAT is not either of those things. He/She is looking for a fight and if your gonna talk to me again make sure it's about something useful and not about how me defending myself against an arrogant prick is the wrong thing to do.The Emmisary 23:28, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Fighting back is still fighting, which happens to be against policy. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 23:34, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Apparently you guys don't look for the source just the person that got pissed off the most.The Emmisary 23:36, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Apparently we look at people as they cross the line. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 23:39, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Very well. I guess I'll start calling people "fail" or "idiots" if I don't like their ideas. Thanks for help.The Emmisary 23:40, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
I've spoken to Lilondra as well as you - it's in both your best interests to stop whatever conflict you might have if it involves personal attacks. On the wiki, we try to go for constructiveness and productivity, not 'defense' against insults or attacks. What he did wasn't exactly right, but what you're doing is no better. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 23:46, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't follow that ideology. Even in a court they won't convict someone for self defense. Some wiki.The Emmisary 23:52, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Well that's the ideology we follow; we're also not a court. You won't make yourself look better by hitting back at someone. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 23:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
I never tried to look better. It's standing up for what you think. Oh and don't lie I've been to his talk page you haven't said squat. The Emmisary 00:00, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Not all wiki business is handled on the respective person's talk pages. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 00:08, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) User talk:Lilondra - I made a comment there. However, I could agree it might be ambiguous, so I'll try to clarify it. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 00:11, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Emissary, healthy debate is healthy. If you presented your points (I assume we're referring to the UG page, but I'm probably wrong) and they are contradicted by a second party, then so be it. You have every right to defend what you believe in, but don't assume people are flaming you if they oppose your point. Moo Kitty 00:13, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
"Fail player is Fail" is not contradicting my point. I am open to other people usage or views on a skill. That was just blatant aggravation.The Emmisary 00:23, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I only have one recommendation for you Emmisary... stop feeding the trolls. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 01:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Wyn said it perfectly. I don't know if you've figured this out by now, but teh interwebz is not a place for the soft-skinned and easily offended. Trolls will always be there, and everyone, including you, needs to learn how to ignore them and avoid creating a fiasco like this every time. calor (talk) 03:08, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone else find it AMAZING that Igor hasn't popped up yet? -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 03:11, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Ohai. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png{{Bacon}} 05:07, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
/wave --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg flame my shove sin bar! 09:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I stand corrected. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 14:47, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

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evil :( --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg flame my shove sin bar! 16:45, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Why would you need 73x{{clear}} anyway? — Galil Talk page 17:07, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Otherwise it breaks the page and doesnt appear under appropriate section. --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg flame my shove sin bar! 17:17, 24 August 2009 (UTC)



I wantz ur cookie kthx =] — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 02:02, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

It's a cupcake >< --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 14:16, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Looks like a cookie to me. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 14:52, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Cookies are flat. This is tall and in a special white package. Tall+White package=Cupcake. Titani User Titani Ertan Sig2.jpg Ertan 14:54, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Where do you expect people to find this?

If it's not on the most recent update page, then where are normal GW players (Read:non-wiki users) supposed to hear about this? Karate User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png Jesus 20:51, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

here? If they are non-wiki users, they aren't going to be looking on the wiki game update page anyway. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 20:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Says who? Wouldn't GWW/ be the two primary sources of information for casual GW players? So we should expect them to go mine for it (which, tbh, is what it feels like sometimes here) or go to a flame thread on Guru about it? Karate User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png Jesus 21:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Like Wyn said, if they're not wiki users they won't find the game updates page anyway : P The wiki already has the information you mentioned (it was the first place that had said information, in fact), and the game updates article isn't for news about the incoming updates. You may want to expand the News page to include that kind of information, or suggest an edit in the main page to let people know when Linsey updates her journal, but just adding the information in a page in which it doesn't belong is not going to work, IMO (and I don't like GWG either, for the records). Erasculio 17:30, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


Dont edit my pages without informing me. I dont appreciate this "vandalism" as you removed my banner. --Burning Freebies 17:15, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

You mean Mad King Freebies Hallowed Revenge? That is the main namespace, not your userpage, so it is not your page (it isn't your page in your user space either btw..). For mainspace articles everybody is encourage to improve articles and to adjust them to the overall standard. That also includes formatting we would never use anywhere else. You might want to participate in this discussion. poke | talk 17:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
What Poke said. In short, articles (including community event pages) should generally be written in a third-person, neutral point of view, and formatting styles should be consistent. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 19:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Your userpage design

Mind if I use it? I'll give you credit. Mini Me talk 19:18, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Some people have already done so, anyway :P. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 19:32, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
And both chose better images *cough* (kidding :D) poke | talk 19:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Cool, thank you :) Mini Me talk 20:55, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Love you pling :3 – Emmett 21:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Why do you think...

those images were vandalism? :D - J.P.ContributionsTalk 23:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

erm. I'unno. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 23:23, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
What kinda reason is that? Left your ban-mode on? :> - J.P.ContributionsTalk 23:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh, you're actually serious? It was, literally, a pile of crap. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 23:39, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Imagise are vandalism, delete nao. --Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png 23:49, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


r vandaliesm, delete nao kays? :> --Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png 23:55, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for creating the start page for me. Targetdrone 16:57, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


Brains...i really want to eat your userpage. i am hungry right now. COOKIES=:D ПALANA 23:32, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

It's a cupcake. - Tanetris 00:02, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Glorified cookiez wif white paper is still COOKIEZ! ПALANA 00:15, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
That cupcake is a spy! — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 00:51, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
As far as I know, the word "cookie" comes from the latin "crustulum" meaning "a small cake". So techincally, I think that could be a cookie....I think. --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 03:42, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
That's a cupcake. Titani User Titani Ertan chrome.png Ertan 03:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Whatever it is, it has chocolate in it and i want it. Thanks wandering traveler for breaking out the LATIN! most useful language to know ever! ПALANA 00:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


Don't think your heroic clean up efforts in the feedback area haven't gone unnoticed. You've been doing a lot of ironing out there, and I wanted to thank you for it because, well, I'm too lazy to do it. So, Tanx. (Satanael 15:51, 16 September 2009 (UTC))

Thanks for the thanks. "Heroic" may be exaggerating a little, but I'll take what I can get :P --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 21:03, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


Your page just made me raid my pantry for cookies. I broke into years old MRE's saved from hurricanes, found a cookie, covered it in that chocolate peanut butter sauce, and destroyed it. I blame you. Also, why pling? -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 10:42, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Pling? ..long story. --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 10:46, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to hear it Hatsune Miku 18:34, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Well it made me want a cookie lol -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 19:12, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Stories like that are always fun to hear, cmon tell Hatsune Miku 19:03, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
He used to be Crippling, but his Crip fell off. --snogratUser Snograt signature.png 06:22, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


You gunna miss me amirite? :> Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png11:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC) --The preceding ban-evading comment was added by


Hai, I fianally finished my awesume signucha. Not sure if the substs in it are legal yet but it looks nais. Anyway, can I please keep the custom timestamp? Default one just doesn't match my signucha at all. ): Nectarines 19:24 24 September 2009

As I said at User talk:Poke, I'd prefer a default timestamp, but it's not any more than a preference (i.e. I'm not forcing you to change it by any means, as long as others don't find it disruptive/annoying). However, could you add (UTC) to the end of it to make sure that the only thing different is the font style? --User Brains12 circle sig.png Brains12 \ talk 20:50, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I know, asked just in case. Here, (UTC) added. :D Nectarines 09:24 25 September 2009(UTC)


User merge is installed i see. When is this possible for others as well? Because i thought to change my actual username to J.P. ^^ - J.P.FeedbackTalk 20:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Since it seems UserMerge works fine, I'm guessing straight away - the consensus seemed to be for leaving merges to reasonable user requests + bureaucrat discretion. I'm fine with merging Jope12 to J.P (do you want J.P. or J.P?). I'll do it in a bit; I'm still sorting out the remnants of my own move at the moment, and just in case there's disagreement to it (though I don't think there would be). --pling User Pling sig.png 21:12, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
J.P. please, it's my (useless :D) redirect account. I can go through my images on my own thank you. There are only few anyway. - J.P.FeedbackTalk 21:22, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
There are a couple of concerns I have about the extension that didn't turn up during testing, so I'm going to delay this until tomorrow or thereabouts - hopefully it'll get cleared up by then. --pling User Pling sig.png 21:50, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I understand. Since there are all of these errors around, the merge might get f****d up big time. And we don't want that :P - J.P.FeedbackTalk 21:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
What could be the possible problems we might face with this extension? - J.P.FeedbackTalk 10:40, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I was a little concerned about my preferences not syncing across the two wikis, since that could indicate a larger problem (e.g. how the accounts are linked); that's my simpleton view though, Poke has much more detailed/correct info about that :P. The user IDs are the same, so there shouldn't be a problem. I've noticed that the preferences need an edit on the appropriate wiki to update (for example, if I changed my preferences on GWW, I need to make an edit on GW2W for the GW2W preferences to sync). I don't think that's how it worked before, but maybe it's because of the bugs we're seeing on the wiki? I dunno. Also, the number of edits count doesn't take into account the merged contributions, i.e. it only counts the edits made originally by the new account. Poke has an explanation for that.
Other than that, the extension works fine - contribs are merged properly, histories/logs updated. --pling User Pling sig.png 11:07, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
But you still think my account merge isn't a good idea right now? - J.P.FeedbackTalk 11:27, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I would like to wait until the caching and login issues are completely gone again, before doing that again, so we can check if there is a problem with the wiki connection (between GWW and GW2W) or if it's just because of the global issues. However if you want to have your account merged, you have to accept that you won't be able to use the contribution counter that is displayed within the preferences, because that number won't get updated when the contributions are reassigned. poke | talk 18:50, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Is it normal behaviour of this extension to not merge the contritubion counters? - J.P.FeedbackTalk 21:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
You have to take into account that the user databases of GWW and GW2W are linked and as such everything works different. That is also the reason why the renameuser extension doesn't work at all. poke | talk 21:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I just thought to ask about RenameUser :D I can wait until we find out what's wrong in these extensions ^^ - J.P.FeedbackTalk 21:19, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Have you tested that does the deletion of an account that has been merged into another have any effect? I just wonder, since Mediawiki encourages to delete these accounts.
By the way, should we take this discussion to somewhere else? User talkpage might not be the best place for this... - J.P.FeedbackTalk 01:15, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Deletion won't work for the same reason RenameUser doesn't work. poke | talk 10:37, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Poke, I believe the login/session loss issues have been resolved, Emily said IT closed the ticket, and I have not had any problems at all tonight. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 12:02, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Ok, so I tested the preferences stuff again and got the same results. An edit needs to be made for the relevant prefs to sync. I tested with Brains12 in case it was specifically this account, and I got the same. Then I tested with a completely new account (i.e. one that hadn't been merged or anything) and I again got the same. I don't think that's how it worked before the update, but it seems to be consistent and unrelated to the merged accounts. If you guys can also test this on your own accounts, that would be helpful too. Testing other things like time might also be useful (it could be that it's similar to image caching... maybe?). --pling User Pling sig.png 13:11, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

You can use my account or my J.P. account if you want. In the name of science Wiki! =)
It might help if we would know (or do we?) what kind of effects this extension has on other wikies.
@Pling: It doesn't bother you if we keep this topic on your talk page? - J.P.FeedbackTalk 14:31, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I didn't mean that I wanted to go on your account, I just suggested that you could try testing yourself if you were bored and wanted some mild entertainment. Change your sig, for example, and see what happens on the other wiki. You don't need to, but as you said - science!
I'm fine with keeping the discussion here; not sure which other page this could go on at the moment, so I'm not fussed about moving it. --pling User Pling sig.png 15:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't think this is any breaking news, but when i change my signature in here, it takes effect in GW2W right away.
But when i change my signature in GW2W, it takes almost 10 minutes to take effect in here.
I'll do the test few more times. - Jope12FeedbackTalk 15:37, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Ok, did the test again. This time it took about 2 minutes until changes in here took effect in GW2W.
Changes in GW2W took effect in here immediately this time.
Anything else i could test? Or should i do more signature tests? - J.P.FeedbackTalk 18:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
No, that's ok. --pling User Pling sig.png 19:00, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible to "reboot" the GW2W, if you know what i mean? - J.P.FeedbackTalk 10:37, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Er, I don't know what you mean :P --pling User Pling sig.png 17:50, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Wait, back up a sec.
"Then I tested with a completely new account"
Is that what I think it means? -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 20:52, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
That I created accounts for the purposes of cross-testing an extension and various other technical features on the two wikis? Yes. --pling User Pling sig.png 21:41, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Awww, can't we make jibes about your sock puppet?
What's his name anyway? Is it serious? Do we get to meet him? What does he do? -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 22:45, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
This is srs bsns! We're trying to get things working here.
@Pling:Restart. - J.P.FeedbackTalk 15:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I know what reboot means, I'm not sure how you can apply it to GW2W. In other words, I don't think so. --pling User Pling sig.png 15:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I mean that we shut GW2W down, save it as it is now, delete the user database there. Then we just put everything back. I don't know the <beep> about these things and i don't know is it even possible.
Is there any hope to get these extension work by any chance? Any news? If not, i personaly think we should just dump these. - J.P.FeedbackTalk 15:54, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't think that's possible/feasible, no.
UserMerge works, but it's been uninstalled (probably unintentionally). --pling User Pling sig.png 16:50, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
How i got the impression that RenameUser doesn't work either? For starters, your tests show re-renaming didn't work. And Poke said (above) it doesn't work at all :S - J.P.FeedbackTalk 13:04, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Read again what Pling wrote please... <_< poke | talk 13:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
/FACEPALMMONSTAH!!! :D - J.P.FeedbackTalk 13:33, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Want me to go ahead with merging Jope12 (talkcontribslogsblock log) into J.P. (talkcontribslogsblock log)? -- pling User Pling sig.png 20:34, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Yup ^^ - J.P.FeedbackTalk 20:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Done. You still have to move your userspace pages over, that's not done automatically (remember to leave redirects for your userpage and user talk). Enjoy :) -- pling User Pling sig.png 20:55, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Did that for you. You still need to move your monobooks, since they're protected. Titani Uth Ertan 21:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
I still think it's important for us to meet your puppet. -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 20:56, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
User:Pling/Sandbox - I think they're all linked there... I try not to get too creative with my account names, but I guess I just can't help seeping some pure imagination and originality into them. -- pling User Pling sig.png 20:58, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Pling ^^ Everything seems to work as they should, for now :D Just ask if you wanna know something. - J.P.FeedbackTalk 00:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Only odd change so far has been in Jope12's preferences.Edit counter lost a bit over a hundred edits :P - J.P.FeedbackTalk 12:58, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
As I said, the edit count in the preferences is quite broken.. poke | talk 16:14, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I know but this is the first i see the counter getting lower :P - J.P.ContributionsTalk 18:13, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


^ Titani Uth Ertan 05:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't know why, but I'd like to reciprocate! Congratz! -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 20:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
GZ! :D User Raine R.gif is for Raine, etc. 23:34, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I dont know what I'm Gz-ing for but GZ all the same. -- Salome User salome sig2.png 15:56, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
You are not able to understand an arrow to the section above? :S poke | talk 15:58, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh i thought the arrow was to the heading not to the section above. -- Salome User salome sig2.png 16:00, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
It was. But to make this clear: CONGRATULATIONS!!! Brains12~pling.
k? Titani Uth Ertan 16:04, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but what are we congratulating for? -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 16:12, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
It's the new name... poke | talk 16:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Whoa. That was fast. Wasn't he always pling? (Do'h!, silly me). -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 16:15, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Good morning. Titani Uth Ertan 16:16, 4 October 2009 (UTC)