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Hot discussions?

Is there a way to link any 'Hot discussions' listed on the community portal in the Wiki Community section? -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 16:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean like, having Guild Wars Wiki:Community portal/Hot discussions or something? -- My Talk Lacky 04:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I just think it would be cool if important discussions that are going on were linked on the mainpage. Rather than just the Community portal page itself. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 04:48, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Voila! -- My Talk Lacky 05:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
The problem is that most hot discussions-links have far too long texts, so we cannot link them directly on the main page. I'm not sure what I think about the single link to the hot discussions – it feels a bit redundant, given that the community portal is quite short and you directly can see the discussions there..
Btw. I removed the link to the subpage you created, Lacky, because the Community portal is actually a page that should be watched by a lot people, so adding new hot discussions is meant to ping many of the community (similar to the Request for comments page); by moving the contents to a subpage, this effect is gone, because nearly nobody will watch the subpage, especially not those, who are not here on a daily basis. poke | talk 07:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Paraphrased from something Poke said a while back, "we can't fit everything on the main page". The community portal exists as the central hub (or "portal") to important wiki news and happenings; so let's use it as such. There are enough links to the community portal around the wiki, so I don't think it's necessary to have the same information on two different pages. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 13:21, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


Wouldn't know if this is possible. but it would be very handy to have a gw-wiki gadget that you can use in igoogle or simular sites with for example the latest in-game activity's block form the wiki. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User: (talk).

Go here and let us know when you're finished. :P Freedom Bound 12:03, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Actually, easier solution. Poke set up a twitter feed for the latest in-game activities. So, all you have to do is get one of the twitter gadgets and add that feed to the gadget. Problem solved. Freedom Bound 12:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, just tried it using this gadget and it works fine. Just change the settings of that gadget to feed a single user, and set the username to "GuildWarsWiki", and you will be able to see the feeds, even without having to register at Twitter. poke | talk 14:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Template:GWW navbar header

Any thoughts on whether we should have included Template:GWW navbar header or not? -- My Talk Lacky 04:48, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

The navbar is not really appropriate for the Main page and far away from the interest of the users that get on it. poke | talk 06:57, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
No. THe bar is for the GWW space. Most users just wants info on the game, not find out what going on behind the sceens. Because of that, we have a special page for those who do: the community portal. Backsword 15:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Recently Featured Articles

Not sure whether this should go here, or on the Featured Pages Project Talk Page, but anyway, any thoughts on whether or not we should have say, the last two to three Featured Articles listed as a link to the article as well, like Wikipedia? I know that there is a link to the Category for them, but that shall soon become clustered, and also does not show which articles were the previous few featured articles. -- My Talk Lacky 05:41, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

As long as it stays as the most recent featured articles, I don't mind for two articles mentioned. Also, shouldn't the article have changed yesterday? Think it's been 2 weeks, or am I mistaken? Yup, in fact, it's been three weeks with HoM up. Well, 2 days short of 3 weeks - either way, changing time. :) -- Azazel the Assassin/talk 06:22, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
The article should have changed last week already, if I'm not wrong.. I'll update it in ~2 hours to give time for additional changes on the current text and then I'll add a link to Main Page/featured article on the Main page for previous featured pages. poke | talk 06:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for updating the page, no links added for the Main Page/featured article added though? -- My Talk Lacky 09:19, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Meh, forgot that one.. poke | talk 12:45, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

User birthdays.

I think someone might have asked this before. Would it be possible to add users who got their birthday on main page? In this case the once who have put their names on a list in user birthday project. I know this might violate the policy(link from a non-talk mainspace page to userspace page), but can you make an exception on this? But most of all: Do you have enough space anymore to add this? :D - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 13:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

There is no policy that disallows links from namespace to user namespace o.O I think you mean the R1 speedy deletion reason which only applies to redirects.
About your question, try to answer it yourself first: Do we have enough space for it? poke | talk 14:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I didn't mean would we need this, i asked that would it be possible, so i kinda asked the same question twice :P But i think links to userpages can be put in small place, so i think there would be enough space... - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Why are we trying to get everything on the wiki on the main page? The people interested in birthdays will check the birthday page - there's no need to put it on the main page when the only benefit it offers is that it'll add some extra clutter (which is, in fact, no benefit at all). The more we add on the main page, the less useful it becomes - useful links get hidden in between the useless links. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 14:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Is this really needed? There are, if Im honest, not many people who still give all users on the birthday list a message. That time is over. If you want to give them a message because they have their birthday, put a link of the user birthday page on your userpage or something. Then you know exactly when it is somebodies birthday. No need to put things on the mainpage who arent really important. In fact, the birthdays of users have nothing and then I really mean nothing to do with the game... |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light User-Cyan Light sig.jpgLive!| 14:20, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I don't remember saying anything that it's needed. I just asked is it possible. And it looks like it isn't, so i got the answer. Thank you. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:34, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Sorry that I say so but mostly if somebody ask if something is possible, the runner up question is if it can be made real... And also, in fact, people ask mostly about possibility if they find it needed. |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light User-Cyan Light sig.jpgLive!| 14:41, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
For me it's a bit different: If i think something is needed, i say so and also why it should be there. And there's nothing to be sorry about, you just misunderstood me :) - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but

[1] no. Very no. We already have a link to ArenaNet:Staff presence on the main page, and we're here to document a game, not the people who work on it. Besides, many of those pages are already getting more traffic than their owners can handle, and these are not the Official Guild Wars Forums. I do like the idea of adding User Birthdays to the community thing though. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 11:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I completely agree. If you wish to put those links on your userpage for easy access fine, but they do not belong on the main page. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 11:44, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
I see. Thanks for pointing it out; I just thought that adding at least a label on the top for the most active and important ArenaNet user staff members (and somehow I ended up playing around with pixels so they won't overlap each other) can help new people. What about adding a ArenaNet:Suggestions and ArenaNet:Portal or ArenaNet:Skill feedback? All important pages that most people don't know about, and some of those people can help. Titani Ertan contributions 14:21, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
The ArenaNet portal is linked on the navigation on the left. And for the feedback things, there is some big change about that coming soon. poke | talk 14:45, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Weekend event

Needs to be added to the Main Page/activities page. This weekend is double faction rewards, per Weekend events and the login screen. Not sure who updates that, but the discussion page there says further discussion should be directed here. There's currently no link to the weekend events on the main page. --Freedom Bound 15:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

The text/code for the weekend event is there, just commented out until it's updated. Edit that page that you'll see it :) remove the <!-- and --> to uncomment when you have updated it :) - anja talk 15:24, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
I would, but it's protected. Sorry, I forgot to point that out in my original statement. --Freedom Bound 15:26, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Ohh. Sorry I missed that >< Tell me a good wording and I'll fix it :) - anja talk 15:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Poke added it. Thanks. --Freedom Bound 15:38, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Not to be a pain, but it should be removed now... --Freedom Bound 22:35, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Has it been removed in game? I thought that usually happened on Tuesday... it comes off the page when it is gone from the game, not just when the weekend is over. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 22:37, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
There were no announcements when I just logged in. --Freedom Bound 22:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Last weekend's event needs to be swapped with this weekend's event (Double faction from JQ and FA). Thanks. -- FreedomBoundUser Freedom Bound Sig.png 23:38, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. - Tanetris 00:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Editing the daily Zaishen quests?

So, the main page currently says unknown. How can I contribute by editing it? Or can I post it somewhere? Today's are: Arborstone and Z'him Monns. (didnt'check the PvP) Sjeng talk 16:17, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Edit Zaishen Challenge Quest, and the main page will automatically update. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 16:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Feedback portal

Now that the Arena Net portal is more or less dead (and soon will be), should the link be removed from the main page, and replaced with the Feedback stuff? While the pages that are listed under ArenaNet still need a place, the feedback portal does as well imo, I'm just not sure how/where. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 09:08, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't think the priority should be given to game suggestions, and there isn't enough space to list all the feedback options. Leaving it at jsut feedback with a link to the portal is enough. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 02:09, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
we want people to be able to make suggestions if they want to just having a link to feed back portal dosnt tell a user anything. if i see feed back on a page i think they want feed back on the website it self not in this case the game.--User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 02:18, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
We being the community, and no, we aren't promoting people making suggestions, we are allowing them to. The Portal leads them to all the appropriate places, while also giving them the basic directions. I am against adding a link directly to the game suggestion page, bypassing the rest. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 04:37, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
If people are going straight to game suggestions without even reading what they're supposed to do to post one in the first place, I see a lot of mis-formatted suggestions and move-matinence. Imo it'd be better just to link to the "feedback how-to" and then they can find their way to game suggestions from there. --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 04:58, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
we are allowing them to? what? the community is allowing the community to make suggestions, basically your saying your allowing people to make suggestions? i thought the hole point of that space was so the community could give feed back to anet. also no one is going to sit there and read rules i am sorry no one cares enough about the internet to do that. also people are going to not fallow/ read the rules regardless of how big you make them so your not really avoiding anything, and like i said if you care about people fallowing the rules so much they should be on the editing pages and the suggestion page it self. also the hole point of the main page is to make it easier for first time users and just general users to find what they are looking for on the wiki.--User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 05:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
If people won't read the rules they shouldn't be allowed to make suggestions; it's as simple as that. The rules are there for a reason, it is important that people read it, not only because of the special licensing that applies inside of the Feedback namespace. poke | talk 07:09, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
When I say we are allowing them to make suggestions I mean just that Zesbeer... we are not putting up an advertisement saying COME MAKE YOUR SUGGESTIONS HERE! We have provided a space that allows them to do so, period. By placing a link directly to the suggestion page, it's more like, an advertisement. If they wish to provide feedback to ArenaNet, be it bug reports, or game suggesitons, or feedback on support issues, it is a choice, and it comes with the responsibility that they read the rules and the best link to give them to do ALL of that is the feedback portal. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 07:26, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
like i already said no one is going to read the rules. also no one said we were "putting up an advertisement" also stop being so pretentious wyn and using the royal "we" talk for your self and not everyone one else please. yet again if you feel the rules are "so important" they need to be on the editing page were they will get a much higher chance of being seen. also the last time i checked all you can do from the suggestion page is read the suggestions other people have posted not post suggestions, directly. also it says get started in little writing at the top. where it directs you to the correct page that has the rules on it i dont see how directing people directly there is any different.--User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 07:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
To me, It's best to lead the people in the right direction. To the Feedback portal, you can find links to not only the rules, but game suggestions, reports, etc. I only see reason to link to the main portal, not to the game suggestion area. Let the people decide for themselves if they want to go to the game suggestions, but of course reading rules first! That way they'd have a better understanding. Not going into the game suggestions, blind as a bat. ♥ Ariyen ♀ 07:41, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
YOU CANT EVEN POST FROM THE SUGGESTION PAGE. also if it is not such a important part of the feed back name space maybe it shouldn't be in size 40 font and you don't even read the rules on that page any way its on a sub page. and if you go to the suggestion page right at the top it says "Have a suggestion for Guild Wars or Guild Wars 2? Get started here!" which leads you to the exact same page. as the feed back name space.--User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 07:52, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
So having a Size 40 Font constitutes it to being on the main page. Despite both links in the end leads to the same areas. One is enough, and the one should be Feedback Portal; the 'gateway' as I call it. It has links to much more than the game suggestions does. Game suggestion page only has links to sub pages for game suggestions. Feedback portal has links to support, bugs, etc. ♥ Ariyen ♀ 08:05, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
/face palm look at every sub link on the main page they are all there and can be gotten to by other pages, the only reason they are there is for convene. just like this link. just wait when the page gets more popular the demand for it being on the main page will emerge. with your logic all the other sub links should be removed as well.--User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 08:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
The others makes sense. This one doesn't. If more want it on the main page, let them add it. Besides, Zesbeer, Read this page. You've broken the rule more than once with at least two people or so. I'll let the sysops revert if they feel the need. But gonna let the history show the 'results'. I'm tired of playing your mind games. ♥ Ariyen ♀ 08:15, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
i would like to point out that you broke the same rule and secondly you broke this one on my talk page. also what are they going to do ban me? if so lol.--User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 08:21, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Firstly, Talk pages are for leaving comments, etc.. Secondly, I didn't personal attack you. I just pointed out about the Feedback section as a personal message to you. Talk pages are not for as to how you'd want it as I was pointed this out on my page. Yea I broke the rule, only fixing what you broke three times or so. (first wyn, then wyn, then me, etc.) ♥ Ariyen ♀ 08:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
whatever i have proven you all wrong the game suggestion page cant even be posted on with out reading the rules first any way (which directs you to the exact same link as the feed back page dose) also there are more links there as well that i want to visit (before i was talking on be have of my guild were i was talking to them on vent now im just talking for my self but im sure they would agree with me.) secondly with the logic your using, all the other sub links should be removed. because there hole point of being there is for quick use of getting to the information needed which btw is already linked in there heading. also im not playing any mind games, i am just stateing the facts.--User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 08:34, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Um 'quick use of getting to the information needed'? Information needed varies actually. The information posted in main page should and do result to the general community, not by a select group, like guilds, alliances, etc. but by all people involved in the community. As stated in the disbute which I agree with (In general not just reverts) -) 'This is not a license to let people hold out to get clearly poor information into the article, but acknowledgement that sometimes perfectly reasonable and informed people can still disagree without a clear "right" or "wrong".' And by Community, I'm thinking Wiki Community, right sysops? ♥ Ariyen ♀ 08:55, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

i was just telling you who i was talking to to show you that i have support as well. and i agree that things need to be descussed and maybe you should have headed over here before just auto agreeing with wyn.--User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 09:04, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Both of you stop now, you have both violated GWW:1RR. This is not a decision for one or two to make and this bickering is getting no one anywhere. If you are looking for Ease of use to MANY links, the Quick access links page is there for a REASON. The Main page is for Significant links. The Feedback portal is a significant link. The game suggestion page isn't. I'd also like to point out Zesbeer, by directing someone to the game suggestion page, they are more likely to simply copy/paste someone else's suggestion page for formatting rather than following the appropriate steps. If they simply wish to view game suggestions, it's one additional click from the portal. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 09:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
wyn you don't even know that? whatever i stated my case. so when it gets added latter this year i told you so. *rolls eyes*--User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 09:13, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Even though I've violated 1RR . It is reverted so to speak to the way Wyn had it. I added links to other areas. Keeping that section the way wyn had it, except adding a subtext to it, due to the double reverts done by another... I do appologize for my irratic behavior, but hopefully only significant links are posted. I will point out, I agree with wyn about the game suggestion page. It is a disaster to have the link on the main page as others would copy one another and not know where to actually put their suggestion. I have 'fixed' a few due to this notice already. As I am a participating member of the feedback. (may have some poor words, but some good ones as well.) I do only hope to try to do better and contribute to the community, even to try to be a helpful person. ♥ Ariyen ♀ 09:22, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

you have no idea if it would be a "disaster" or not. your just saying that to agree with wyn who has yet to prove why it would be a "disaster" and like i said it says it at the top of the page the right way to start making suggestions.--User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 09:32, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Whatever you think, you can stop reverting yourselves on the editcopy. It's a editcopy to propose changes and discuss them. You can be sure that it won't be copied over to the main page until there is consensus here, so you can simply leave the version you personally don't like for now. poke | talk 09:46, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh btw, Zesbeer, the "royal we", as you call it, Wyn uses is based on the discussions about the feedback namespace that happened before it got opened. poke | talk 09:47, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Shields and offhands.

Why these should be there? We don't have links for such as bows, swords or staffs either. - J.P.ContributionsTalk 18:32, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

elite armor

its link is not needed. see reasons above.--User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 09:14, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
At least wyn fixed it. I kinda figured not, but did add in more that seemed needed. ♥ Ariyen ♀ 09:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
we really really dont need a link to the cap article.--User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 09:34, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Listen, don't start on what we don't need. Let the others decide that. Others as in admins, etc. If you have a problem, state it separately and make a vote on it. Let admins, sysops, etc. change it if enough agree it's not worthy and Not from a particular guild, alliance, etc. either. Don't really want this to be another one of your 'arguments'. You and I both have done enough damage. Let it be and move on. Not to mention, it's really sad to just state we don't need something and not explaining the 'reasons' behind it. Enough said. ♥ Ariyen ♀ 11:19, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
first of your not my mom second this is a wiki the hole idea is that anyone can change it. also just like the reasons you stated as to why we dont need a link directly to the game suggestions? and how you went thought the same process you request me to go thought be more of a hypocrite please.--User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 11:36, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Content discussions are open to any user, not just admins. Also, we use discussion and compromising to find a consensus, not voting. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 16:20, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Feedback portal (2)

With all due respect I failed to bring up the courage to read everything Zesbeer and Ariyen posted in the original topic, so I decided to make a new one.

I've made some changes [2] to the editcopy because the ArenaNet namespace has been locked for us normal users. What I did was changing the link to ArenaNet:Portal to Feedback:Main, changing the link to ArenaNet:Login screen announcements to Login screen announcements and ArenaNet:Staff presence to ArenaNet staff presence. This would mean ArenaNet:Login screen announcements should be moved to Login screen announcements (which is currently a redirect page) and ArenaNet:Staff presence should be moved to Arenanet staff presence (which is currently empty). If you disagree with any changes, feel free to discuss. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 23:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

why the change?- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 00:03, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
i see what you did i think i like that better...- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 00:04, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
No, the staff presence page stays where it is, and is not being moved. It is maintained by ArenaNet staff, or wiki admins anyway, so having it locked is of no real consequence. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 00:04, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Ok, anything else? WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 00:08, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I rearranged it a bit (Edit conflict) in the process :P Since the feeback portal is a wiki based thing rather than part of Updates, news and events. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 00:12, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Besides, is there someplace where I can find the discussion regarding the ArenaNet namespace and its closure, other than ArenaNet talk:Portal#Closing_Anet_space? I just read there that Tanetris said ArenaNet:In-game_talk and its subpages were to be moved, but that hasn't happened yet. Has there been a change of plans? It would be helpful to know such things, as, for instance, there was no way for me to know ArenaNet:Staff presence was not to be moved. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 00:15, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Ah, okay. I figured Feedback related to the game and it's updates, hence the positioning. But this makes sense as well, I reckon. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 00:15, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
We are going to leave the In-Game talk pages archived in ArenaNet space, but new ones will be put into the mainspace. There is no need to move them, I mean the last one was in April, I think any discussion that it was going to generate is long done and over at this point. Everything that is going to be moved, has been moved. The Developer Updates will be in the Feedback namespace now, since the discussion they generate is all feedback. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 00:22, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Okay, thanks Wyn. One question, is ArenaNet:Login screen announcements going to stay where it is now, locked and all that? I think it must be an oversight, as it is mainly maintained by normal users. :) WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 00:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm poke is our move wizard. I thought he got it all. Ok if it waits til tomorrow so that Wikichu can do all the tweaks that go along with moving it? -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 00:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Sure, no problem. Thanks ^^ WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 00:33, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh yeah, I'll move the login screen announcements later this day; for the in-game talk, we said we would leave it there until we have new talk. No need to move it now when it is inactive anyway. poke | talk 10:40, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
It's been almost 2 months since the feedback portal got opened, the ArenaNet portal is officially closed, can we please get the links changed on the main page? I'm fine with the layout as it is now on the edit page. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 22:45, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I would if I could. Go ahead and copypaste. :) WhyUser talk:Why 14:07, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


Oh god, the orange is back. Can't we have like... a less blinding shade? Misery 14:22, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I just copypasted, and yea, the orange is like, HALLOWEEN! IN YOUR FACE! I don't like it very much either. Suggestions? WhyUser talk:Why 14:24, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Swap "darkorange" for orange, and it's not so bad... What about a purple-ish color? That's usually also associated with Halloween. -- FreedomBoundUser Freedom Bound Sig.png 14:27, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) F4 A4 60, CD 85 3F or D2 69 1E instead of darkorange. They are all just a little less assaulting. Misery 14:31, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Plain orange is even worse, and all your suggestions, Mis, end up too brown to my taste, though I could live with it, I suppose. I'll try to find something that is orange but not too orange. What sort of purple-ish color did you have in mind FB? WhyUser talk:Why 14:36, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
This might help. As far as I know Phen collected all the wiki friendly colours. Misery 14:37, 22 October 2009 (UTC) or, pretty toys. -- pling User Pling sig.png 14:38, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) x2 I tried a few, they all look really bad with the hyperlinks (because they're blue), so I think we can skip purple. -- FreedomBoundUser Freedom Bound Sig.png 14:39, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
F4 A4 60 works, I think. WhyUser talk:Why 14:45, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Better. -- FreedomBoundUser Freedom Bound Sig.png 14:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
As we will (probably) change the logo as well, changing the link color for the Main Page wouldn't really be an issue.. poke | talk 14:56, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Can someone make sure this is synced properly? I thought the Halloween in-game event was to go live somewhere today. And does anyone know how that logo can be changed, I guess we have to ask Emily to do that, or something? WhyUser talk:Why 15:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Which logo was it again? I'll change it then later today. poke | talk 17:24, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I have a gallery of alternate logos here. I think last year we used the grey moon one. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 18:59, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I like the grey one better than the orange one. -- FreedomBoundUser Freedom Bound Sig.png 19:01, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
same though a new logo with the mad king would be cool... anyhow can we get this pushed live the event is underway.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 22:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
It's live. poke | talk 22:43, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Try puce. It's better than puke :p --snogratUser Snograt signature.png 22:51, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the current logo as a bit of a low res, so I uploaded a higher one. Just thought you might be intrested. File:User_Phnzdvn_Halloween_Logo_High_Res.png --User Phnzdvn sig.png Phnzdvn 04:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
I like it, updated. poke | talk 13:15, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Cool. --User Phnzdvn sig.png Phnzdvn 22:33, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
How about instead of Orange Background and black found. Switch it to black background, orange font? Shall I edit page to show what I mean and see if others would like?-- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 23:32, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps for next year - changing the main page again halfway through the event is rather nonsensical, imo. But if it's a nice design, it's a nice design. WhyUser talk:Why 23:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Sounds cool. Can do a temp page on my user side for next year. -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 23:50, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

List of Codex skills

What about adding the List of codex skills in Latest in-game activities ? 14:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

+1 - J.P.User J.P. Halloween sig.pngTalk 14:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
The Codex Arena page contains the current list of skills and has a link to the expanded list. I don't think a separate list is necessary. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 15:12, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
If we add a link for the skills, that one to the current subpage.. poke | talk 15:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
That's great idea. -- User Halogod35 Sig.png Halogod35 15:24, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
It's updated so often, the 'skills' would be 'old news.' I think a page that'll show the updated codex skills would be nice. -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 16:45, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Too Early

I know this is pretty early, but what about this design for next halloween? -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 01:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

I like! (It might be a good idea to edit it onto the /editcopy page, just to have it stored in the history, I think. Others might disagree with me though.) WhyUser talk:Why 02:05, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Er, I think I'll let someone else do that then. ^.^ Cause I don't want it to be changed on main page it's self though. Am interested in what others think. The idea came to me from one of my many webpages as I loved the black background and any color foreground. -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 02:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
This page is separate (yet a part of) the main page, so your editing the editcopy won't affect the main page. Besides, the main page is protected anyway, so admins can only edit it. --User Ezekial Riddle silverbluesig.pngRIDDLE 02:54, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Well another thing, people might think the 'edit' was for this halloween. That's why I did it on my sandbox. -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 02:56, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
the pot icon looks bad, same with the mad king, and moon + we already have the moon in the main icon. other then that i think it looks really emo.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 03:05, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Already have the others too, in the four pictures, but oh well . We'll see what the others think of it, personally it's a 'Change' from this year. -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 06:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
ok but not all change is needed or good. and emo change i think isnt needed.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 06:58, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, let's let others have their say. :-)-- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 07:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
btw my say is equal to everyone else on this wiki. and stop thinking that there are others who have more sway.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 07:09, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Zesbeer, There are others who have their own unique opinions. You're no different. So stop thinking you're 'higher' power and leave your opinion being "the pot icon looks bad, same with the mad king, and moon + we already have the moon in the main icon. other then that i think it looks really emo." - which I do appreciate the opinion . As I'll state, the nomination is different and for next year. It's an option and can be changed many times. Just like to hear what others have to say. end of discussion with you. -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 08:16, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
no its you who needs to be reminded that no one is better then anyone else and i am more then willing to link to you where you thought other wise. that's exactly what i just wrote learn to read please. and YOU don't have "end of discussion power" sorry to burst your bubble. this is a wiki the hole point is that everyone one can comment. and no one has a say as to when someone is out of the discussion. (except for if they are not adding to the discussion or are in violation of other policy's just because you spent time coming up with a new color scheme doesn't mean it has to be used. and my opinions are valid also instead of acting like your higher then everyone else you could take the criticism and maybe change your design.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 08:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Whatever, You didn't read above - Anyone is welcomed to edit the page. where I was working on for next year's halloween. So, Opinions are noted, unless changed. Anyone else, come edit on sandbox and decorate if wanted. And discuss here. (I was noting end of discussion as I am not in the mood to discuss it more with you, Zesbeer. I didn't say I was 'excluding' your hearsay or say so.)-- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 08:45, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
assumptions oh man. i actually did read what you and others had already wrote and your being a hypocrite again.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 08:49, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
It's an attack as defined here -) "Posting a link to an external source that fits the commonly accepted threshold for a personal attack, in a manner that incorporates the substance of that attack into discussion, including the suggestion that such a link applies to another editor, or that another editor needs to visit the external source containing the substance of the attack." Link: GWW:NPA 04:28, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
"For text elsewhere, where such text is directed against you, removal requests should be directed to an admin to determine if the comments should remain, be archived, or be deleted. However, deletion should be rare, limited to situations where the comments pose an ongoing threat to a user such as revealing personal information in the attack." trump'd. Now, can we just let this go or something..? -- pling User Pling sig.png 15:10, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
You two might just forget about this for now... We can revive the discussion in ~11.5 months, but it is really too early now to even talk about it.. A lot can change in one year, so deciding on something now is just stupid. poke | talk 09:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, chances are there won't be a halloween next year. just sayin' NuVII User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg 19:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

other languages?

do we have the other language wikis linked some place i think that would be useful for thous people who speak another language besides English.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 22:42, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

List of fansites?--Fighterdoken 22:46, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

halloween theme

Halloween is over in-game and real life. Shouldn't the color theme go back to normal? de Kooning 15:20, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

The decorations are still up in game. The page will change when they come down. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 15:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
You might want to revert the pic in the top left corner to the non-Halloween version. --Razor39999 20:34, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Mad King's Steward

Since the Mad King's Steward is here for a limited time, and offering a special quest outside of the Halloween event, should there be a link to him and his quest in the Latest in-game activities section of the home page? Something like:

Special Event

Mad King's Steward: The Waiting Game

Auslander 23:51, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

That does sound like a good idea. Maybe adding it below the Contests? -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 23:55, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
I've marked up the Main_Page/editcopy with one possibility, near the top of the page where it might get more visibility. But, somewhere else is cool too. Auslander 00:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
eh i see no need for this we don't ever post just a quest(a non zquest) on the main page.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 00:21, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
It's a special event type thing though. -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 01:19, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't have a problem with it. poke | talk 01:26, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
how is it special all that is happening is a quest that hasn't even started that people have to wait for. there is nothing special about it.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 01:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Because unlike other quests. It's not going to be there, but for a certain length of time. Unlike quests that happen during 'Special' events like Halloween, Wintersday, etc. This one is happening outside of that. It's a first one. -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 01:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, the special part of it is that you won't be able to get it, when the real action starts. poke | talk 14:18, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Nevermind, he's departed. Auslander 02:44, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Although, maybe we can still discuss how to show limited time events on the main page. So that there's a plan in place when the next event comes by. Auslander 18:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Wintersday decorations

Wintersday starts Friday, any ideas for the main page? -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 19:52, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Use the declorations from last year? -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 19:57, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Here's my version though I'm not happy with reusing last years colors. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 21:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Maybe switch Wintersday present icon to the PvP section, like snowball fights, and candy cane staff to weapons. Otherwise seems fine to me, and those issues are just nitpicky anyway. --Kyoshi (Talk) User Kyoshi sig.png 21:45, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I also thought maybe red text, but I think that'd seem kind of sinister. Maybe only red text on the green background areas, or maybe red backgrounds with green text in those areas. --Kyoshi (Talk) User Kyoshi sig.png 21:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
How about aqua, or another similar "cold" colour? --DryHumour 22:00, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Isn't that kinda what it is now, or is that some shade of gray? (Sorry, slightly color-blind.) --Kyoshi (Talk) User Kyoshi sig.png 22:01, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
No need to apologize, but its actually very green, with red borders in Wyn's sandbox. I'm guessing red-green colour blindness. 120px-Face-grin.svg.png --DryHumour 22:04, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I meant the current Main page, not Wyn's edit. ^^;; --Kyoshi (Talk) User Kyoshi sig.png 22:08, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Kyoshi, I changed the icons a bit.. what do you think now? The candy cane staff looked so puny by itself. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 22:12, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Weapons are great, I like. I still think maybe color scheme change and switch the present and frozen ecto icons, maybe after this color-blindness thing is sorted out. >.<;; --Kyoshi (Talk) User Kyoshi sig.png 22:17, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I like it Wyn. Perhaps switch the sock and the star cookie. Y'know, star for featured pages et cetera. Though I'd be fine with the current version too. WhyUser talk:Why 22:53, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
^Actually, that's a good idea, I didn't think of that. --Kyoshi (Talk) User Kyoshi sig.png 07:59, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
agreed with why. the colors right now make me want to barf though. i say a darker green and have the borders be a lighter green and the outer most box be a very light red. also what logo we going with this year? also throwing Dwayna and Grenth into the icon mix would be awesome.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 09:13, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I think the green would be fine, except that particular color of red makes it look sickly. It meeds to be much darker or lighter. Vili 点 User talk:Vili 09:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree with Vili, I do not like that particular shade of red colour very much at all. -- My Talk Lacky 17:08, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Feel free to try different colors. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 17:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I am wiki illiterate, but I'm always up for learning. I'll try changing colors a bit but no guarantees on anything good; again, color blindness. --Kyoshi (Talk) User Kyoshi sig.png 18:20, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Exactly when do the decorations go live? WhyUser talk:Why 20:29, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Well, Wintersday starts Friday, so I would guess that decorations are going up on Thursday, but that is just a guess. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 20:31, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
i would love to change the colors but i dont know this color system you are using. also what logo are we going to use?- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 22:13, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
How about this? -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 22:58, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I like it, the present looks familiar. :P — PmaN  23:07, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Alright, this is what I have done. I couldn't make up my mind and decide whether or not I liked the blood-red and the firebrick1 colour better for the top part where it says "Welcome and Happy Wintersday...", however I have decided upon the blood-red. Wyn, I think that green is the best green you could have used (and I tried a lot of different greens, but none were as good), so nice work on the top notch green. As for the red on the other headings, they are firebrick1. Let me know what you think please! -- My Talk Lacky 03:24, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
you are kidding about that green right? it is ugly with that red ill come up with some color swatches.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 03:39, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
| colspan="2" style="background: #FCFCFC; border: 1px solid #CC3300; vertical-align: top;" | <div style="background: #7CCD7C; border: 2px solid #669933; i think that would look better.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 04:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I used Zesbeer's ideas, now see what you think. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 04:35, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
i think it looks a lot better.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 04:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Oh yeh wow. That looks great as well! The only thing I would change is changing that 70% back to 60% again. I personally prefer it that way. -- My Talk Lacky 06:08, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I put it back for people who are still at lower resolutions. 60% gets a little squishy. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 06:11, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Ahh I see. I'm at 1440x900, and I still prefer the 60%. I think it's because it looks like there is a bit too much space that isn't filled by anything, I'm not sure. -- My Talk Lacky 06:34, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Desktop it looks squishy. Laptop looks fine. I have to use the lower rez for my desktop... :-( I prefer this rez though. :-D -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 07:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree, I am on my laptop however. Haven't tested it on my desktop. -- My Talk Lacky 07:43, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
The rez looks fine to me. *shrug* Since I tried playing with the colors and couldn't figure out anything productive, I have no issues with it as is. --Kyoshi (Talk) User Kyoshi sig.png 09:05, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I'd say it looks fine, go for it. :) WhyUser talk:Why 13:23, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
i say go for it two dont forget to change the logo and update the featured page to the snowball arena.- User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 03:08, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Alright I vote for this. I feel that the images better reflect the title names. For instance, latest in-game activities, people tend to drink booze in-game, PvE, people can get ecto drops in PvE, PvP, the Freezie clown is a head piece for a person i.e. pvp, etc. Just my thoughts. -- My Talk Lacky 03:21, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Actually, I like this one better. -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 09:04, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Lacky! We haven't agreed on the images and you go do that! The consensus wasn't settled, should have waited, you know. -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 19:32, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
This page is called editcopy for a reason. poke | talk 19:38, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
true. Thanks for the reminder! :-) 21:44, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
I personally don't think it makes that much difference which icons are used. I think the way it is now is fine. I was more concerned about getting some new art in for this year, rather than just reusing last years, and I think we have accomplished that. Thank you Kakarot for the new logos :D They look great. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 03:53, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Ok, so I wasn't paying much attention when I wrote that... I was looking for color balance. You now have all 3 red icons in a row and the 4 blue ones in a clump... BAD -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 04:42, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Didn't even think of the way, what did putting the x in this do? -- My Talk Lacky 06:21, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
It sets the height and lets the width scale. — PmaN  06:32, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Makes the height of the image 64px since the image isn't square it looks better to be as tall as the others if not as wide, rather than making it as wide, but taller. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 06:33, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Sweet. Didn't know you could do that. Cheers for that. ^_^ -- My Talk Lacky 08:07, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Wintersday decorations are up! Wiki logo (top left hand corner) still normal. -- My Talk Lacky 22:27, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Try refreshing your browser (ctrl+F5). -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 22:32, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Omg it looks horrible, change it back. Not bad.User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png Drogo Boffin 22:33, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Alright I can see it now. Thanks. -- My Talk Lacky 01:01, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Should there be a link somewhere linking to on the main page? 05:37, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Not sure where it would go under... -- My Talk Lacky 22:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
"Guild Wars" in the banner can be wiki linked to the Guild Wars page which contains a link to in the External links section. --Silver Edge 09:35, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Empty space in Latest in-game activities section

If I look to the page I always see that there is a lot of empty/unused space in the Latest in-game activities section. Is this on purpose or just because the feature page section has a lot of text this time? I think we have to change it because it looks not very good.--Wysth 21:14, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

It all depends on your screen width. On narrower screens, the activities box is actually more filled than the feature box. (Since the activities box is variable width.) Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 21:21, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Looks fine to me. -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 21:37, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Okay maybe because I'm looking at a laptob atm instat of a computer.--Wysth 09:27, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

New content in "Latest in-game activities"

I suggest adding a subsection called something like "Newly added content" to that section. This subsection would contain game content which has been added to the game within the latest weeks or something. The newly added costume inventory slots is something which would fit in this section. --- Phoexo 04:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

there is no point anet doesn't come out with new content often enough to warent this. - User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 12:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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