Talk:War in Kryta/A1

Anyone familiar with stenography?

I cbf. is for Raine, etc. 04:40, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

learnt about it whilst studying for CISSP. are u suggesting something? ^^114.156.210.86 13:47, 19 April 2010 (UTC)Ryoko

Gallery?

I'm wanting to add a gallery section between ===White Mantle=== and ==References== to include all of the images we have gotten out of this little viral campaign (including the facebook emblems, and not including wallpapers, dunno about the subliminal images in the slideshows though), but I'm unsure how to format it. I have all the images saved on my computer, and can upload all the missing ones, but I'd rather wait until a gallery is added, if one will be. On a different but related topic: I'll be making a progression image of the /warinkryta page, much like this image. To show the progression of the blurriness for those who missed it. -- Konig/talk 10:37, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

if you could see them, they weren't subliminal. –Jette 10:41, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Subliminal means that they flash by quickly. You technically have to see them, but at first (and maybe multiple) glance, you can't make it out. Freeze frame, you can make them out easily. -- Konig/talk 10:48, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I'll make a gallery when I get back from town if you want. If you can't wait until then you might be able to work something out from looking at this page. Also, unfortunately the image on this page is the second War in Kryta one, I missed the first, unless you have it saved? --Santax (talk · contribs) 11:12, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I've sorted one out from the coding on that page, but i'm missing most the images so Konig will need to upload those. Thanks Santax. Shadow Runner 11:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I've added the ones I could find. If there get to be too many images perhaps you could create a category for them and link out to that and keep only the most interesting images on the main page? -- Aspectacle 11:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

That would be a good idea, but I have no idea how to go about it. I'll have a look around and try stealing the coding from current catagories. Shadow Runner 11:32, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Added all but the first War in Kryta one - I'll upload a combined version later, unless you guys want them individually. Regarding the category thing, that might work out best eventually. @Shadow Runner: All you do is add the category to the images, then there's a gallery on the category automatically. -- Konig/talk 11:38, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Already sorted under "Category:War In Kryta images". Hopefully that'll work... Shadow Runner 11:42, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps putting them all in Category:War In Kryta would be better? -- Konig/talk 11:48, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Thought that would have been a better move. *Facepalms* Shadow Runner 11:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I've moved them. I just hope I don't have to do it again with MORE images. Shadow Runner 11:54, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Me Thinks...

Weapon Sets/Armor (and 5 year old characters still get minipets or Unique Types of this Armor/Weapon). What about everyone else? --Neil2250 , Render Lord 11:30, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Armor skins purchasable through the store, minipets, of course (mini Great Destroyer please :D), Hoping the new Shining Blade Camp will become an official outpost, there's just too much open space out there. Maybe a new BMP helping to bridge gw and gw2 (doubtful). I wouldn't mind a bmp showcasing the events that take place here. --Ravencroft0 11:42, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

And me thinks, it would be added new mission, like an AB, but with Shining Blade and White Mantle cO And ofc sum costumes^^--I Unhealable I 12:12, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that we'll be able to join the White Mantle. In any way. -- Konig/talk 23:28, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I bet we get to participate in some way in the return of Salma to the throne, and the obvious ensuing (and/or preceding) bloodshed. Also costumes and minipets. Also, given that we can get costumes of both Shining Blade and White Mantle (presumably from the flyer), I wouldn't be surprised if there were some sort of Wintersday-style in-outpost competition between the two sides to get the costumes. Like each district has to vote for one side or the other for some reason, and the district that votes for one side all gets the corresponding costume. And if I'm right you all owe me 5k each. Every one of you who reads this. And no skipping out! Because I'll know and I'll track you down all Jay and Silent Bob style. (Satanael | talk) 23:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I dont think we will ever see full costumes being given away free. It's just HIGHLY unlikely. -- Salome 00:10, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

A-Net has officially stated that costumes will never be available outside of the GW store, if I remember correctly. -~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) 01:08, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

How would you explain the twitter giveaways then?.... --Kairu 02:07, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Technically, they gave away codes that were redeemed through the GW store... :P -- FreedomBound 02:14, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

The only use I see for White Mantle costumes is infiltration. MithTalk 17:02, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Another Step

I saw mention about a the War in Kryta page being hidden in the Blade Camp image, but not how. This is how: http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/showpost.php?p=121632&postcount=1760 --Regina Buenaobra 16:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Some people noticed that the Blade Camp image had a hint of a seemingly red tinge to it (although I don't know how, I cannot seem to see/notice it at all), so someone put a red layer over it and then just used saturation to bring the red out of the image (or something along those lines, I'm not a PhotoShop master, sorry =P) and the /warinkryta text was revealed. Obviously this was text for another domain as the recent clues had the same as well. Hope this has somehow helped. ^_^ Woops, I totally misunderstood what you wrote. Please disregard. I have edited the article. -- Lacky 17:17, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Grass

I noticed the reference to my comment about grass at the end of the page. XD My comment was actually in reference to the April Fool's Day update note about the grass texture, which was playing off of a heated discussion on IncGamers last summer after the Guild Wars 2 teaser trailer was launched. I spoke to Linsey about the difference in the appearance of the grass in the new instance of Talmark Wilderness, versus the old version. She reports that there were no Eye of the North effects used in Talmark. What actually happens is that there is a small amount of the landscape that is procedurally generated whenever a new map is created. So there are "naturally" occurring differences whenever a player loads into the map. So she says that any differences in the grass in Talmark Wilderness after the addition of the Shining Blade camp has to do with this procedural generation of flora. :-) --Regina Buenaobra

Okay, removing the reference to your comment then. -- Konig/talk 21:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

War In Kryta Updated

The picture is now even more slightly less blurry. 173.80.20.38 21:18, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Got it and uploaded. Shadow Runner 21:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

You, me, and other people all trying to do the same thing in different ways. Sorry to the admins and sysops who have to delete, what, 5 file redirects? xD -- Konig/talk 21:28, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry from me as well. I know it's a pain deleting redirects and watching RC get clogged. Shadow Runner 21:36, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Its obvious now that its a mantle and blade banner with 2 figures...and text in the upper center?--Likealemon 23:40, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

*cough* Karate Jesus 02:07, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

The middle images may or may not be (not positive on the source) the heads of the leaders/lead characters of each group. My assumption would be that the Shining Blade lead character is Alari Doubleblade (mentioned on Facebook) and soon enough I'm sure the Mantle's lead character will be announced on the Shining Blade's Facebook. I'm not sure what all of this implies, but I'm assuming some sort of storyline where we align ourselves with one of these two characters to battle the other.

Again, I'm not positive on this part though. A lot of this is guessing with just a few facts. Karate Jesus 02:19, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

it's very clearly an image of two mantle knights holding lunchboxes while facing an armada in the distance. –Jette 02:28, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

That's what I thought, KJ. -- Lacky 02:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Also, this. Not all of this is based on reliable information, but I'm around ~75% sure on the costumes. Karate Jesus 02:35, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

From the looks of the newest War in Kryta image, KJ's guess about costumes in very likely. I also see text in the white areas as well. -- Phnzdvn 19:40, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

It's painfully obvious now that they're costumers. A male and female pair on each side. Look familiar? 158.121.88.54 19:46, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

New Update?

I heard that there was a new update to the Shining Blade camp, and it seems that I was right! Check it out!

http://bit.ly/TWMvsSB -- Lacky 18:38, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

You use texmod or something? I got nothing... Shadow Runner 18:45, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you have to win the game and eye of the north? =P -- Lacky 18:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Still looks the same as usual (character's finished all campaigns). -- pling 18:59, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Checked and no changes. Reaper of Scythes** 19:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

New change to the web page though. 173.80.20.38 19:32, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

That's painfully obvious to be a texmod. -- 22:39, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

New codes?

there are new pictures on facebook for both the blade and the mantle. Has anyone scanned the coeds on them yet? Yes we understand its fan art. I just wonder if they tried to slip one by on us.75.136.139.55 04:43, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

They are the same as the originals, except one fan made on that leads to http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/En-us-obey.ogg, but it doesnt appear to have anything to do with the official stuff. (This is just a quick look, I haven't tried decoding anything, or checking saturation levels, or run the images through anything. This was just a QR code check) --Kairu 05:23, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that they were altered in any way, else they wouldn't be work from the fans. -- Konig/talk 06:21, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

war in kryta page finally fully viewable

That's it up and working guys. Is it just me or does this seem like a very long lead in to a new shining blade costume and white mantle costume. look at the pictures on the relevant pages and it looks awfully like these are gonna be new purchasable outfits. I truly hope this whole thing wasn't just an advert for some new purchasable costume sets. -- Salome 01:46, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I think we'll need a complete rework of this article now, with all the new things given. :x -- Konig/talk 01:48, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

indeed but its 3am here, so gonna leave that to one of those nice american chappies. -- Salome 01:51, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Well I have only had 2.5 hours asleep last night. I dunno how the heck I'm still awake. I might look at how to do it, but first I need to read the freaking new info. -- Konig/talk 02:03, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I created a page for Murro and Confessor Isaiah, but no idea what should really be on them yet. Karate Jesus 02:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

(Edit conflict)Okay, I'm fairly sure that the War Chronicles should get its own page. It seems like it will be updated now and then, based on the April 8 and the ending. I'll work on a new version of the War in Kryta page in my user space. There's two ways I'm thinking of working it out (one way keeps it all here, the other splits it between this page, the Shining Blade page, the White Mantle page, and the War Chronicles-to-be page). I'm also thinking that Murro=first name of Loremaster Ermenred and Confessor Isaiah being Justiciar Isaiah. -- Konig/talk 02:25, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

"Justiciar Isaiah may possibly be the new leader on the White Mantle following the High Councils' deaths." Good call. Karate Jesus 02:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

in that case, I'm sure there's nothing to fear. izzy will have their monks using healing hands with d-shot by the time this thing is released. –Jette 04:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

DERP

Obvious costumes were obvious. Karate Jesus 02:00, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

indeed -- Salome 02:14, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

's what I thought when I saw those pictures. They look pretty cool, anyway. --Kyoshi (Talk) 02:16, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Not for $10 USD they don't :D Karate Jesus 02:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

would've been better if they were just white mantle armors, imo. I would probably have paid $10 for justiciar hablion's armor, and maybe confessor dorian's would've been cool for monks or summat... but this one just doesn't impress as much. ~~~~ 02:29, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Tbh, they look too similar to a lot of the stuff on the market right now. Mantle's looks like God of War stuff and Blade's looks like Assassin's Creed II stuff. Karate Jesus 02:34, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Mantle guys look nothing like in God of War series :P - J.P.Talk 02:36, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

In III there are some characters with a similar model. Not the hat, but the rest of it (of course, those are pretty basic things). I would like to have the blade stuff on my sin, but again....not for $10 USD. Karate Jesus 02:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

slap someone on the street and take their money. it's a victimless crime and it solves your problem in a pinch. ~~~~ 02:41, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree with everything you've ever said. Ever. Said. Karate Jesus 02:42, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

To those complaining of the design of the costumes: The White Mantle ones match perfectly what a Confessor's armor looks like (see Confessor Dorian and the Obey flyers). The Shining Blade one fits the blade perfectly - guerrilla tactic rebels, I.e., assassins/thieves. I don't see what's so wrong about them. IMO, they're much better than any NPC model - especially the SB one. Though I can see the argument for having a WM warrior costume. -- Konig/talk 03:07, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

How about Confessor Isaiah? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.136.139.55 (talk) at 08:36, 09 April 2010 (UTC).

I think dorian has poofier pants than the ones on the poster. still, I suppose we won't know for sure what they look like in-game until they're for sale, since it's just concept art or w/e. –Jette 03:37, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Well of course they won't be exactly the same. -- Konig/talk 04:14, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Or you know...you could all be wrong and there isn't going to be any costumes...although I hope there is. =P -- Lacky 06:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

And we don't know they'll be for sale. If it's all part of the 5th anniversary party it could all be free. Here's hoping anyway... (Satanael | talk) 19:09, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

You know...

Idc what you say, White mantle warriors have the most bad-ass fucking armor in the game. IN THE GAME! --Master Briar 12:21, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Hablion's is better. but, yes. –Jette 12:24, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Oddly enough, he is a White Mantle warrior... -- FreedomBound 12:25, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

When i first bought GW the first character I browsed through the little booklet thingy. And I saw a White mantle warrior. After figuring out it was a warrior I immediately created one, hoping to get my hands on that sweet sexy set of armor. Imagine my dismay. I was sad. So so sad. --Master Briar 12:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

you guys realize that the shadow army uses the same armor just black and more spikes....- Zesbeer 12:49, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Uhm, Duh? But theres no definition on the shadow army. Because they're, you know, shadows. (ORLY!?!?) The shining blade ones are much beastlier. --Master Briar 12:51, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

No, they don't. Those armors are white and gold. The best looking one is the blackest one. That is, for now, the Kurzick one. That's not my opinion. It's a RULE in gaming. For males, the best armor is the darkest one. For females, the one that covers less skin. I didn't make the rules, I just OBEY them. The only good thing about their models is those huge capes they have. MithTalk 15:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I cry false. Ebon Vanguard armor is way cooler. I would kill to be able to use that armor. (Satanael | talk) 19:07, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Shiro's armour, tbh. -- Lacky 04:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion

Methinks they should actually make this thing part of the gameplay, like AB for Proph. That would be quite epic. 72.222.230.212 05:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

It is kinda in the process of becoming not only "official" lore, but certain aspects of it are actually in game already. And things have been (and will hopefully continue to be) periodically updated/introduced as far as we know. --Kairu 05:48, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I doubt that there will be a new AB, to be honest. But this actually is gameplay. Peacekeepers and the Shining Blade camp are two things that were added. -- Konig/talk 06:20, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

AB for Prophecies? I like the idea of fighting a battle where we know who the bad guys are. With Kurz and Luxs, you never really knew, as they both displayed douche bag tendencies. Krytan Allegiance Battles. lol I wonder what the price tag on Beetletun will be... --Ravencroft0 08:15, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Please note that Anet already stated that a new type of gameplay is an effort which is too huge for the small live team... (It was in a post in that 200 page thread on gw2guru and i'm not gonna search for it ^^: http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/obey-vs-dismantle-viral-campaign-t3062.html). So don't get your hopes too high. Heino 18:20, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

swan song?

just thought of this and i realy realy realy hope im wrong but could this be the swan song for guildwars?

It has already been confirmed that GW servers will continue running even after the release of GW2. So what exactly do you mean? (+Sign your comments)Heino 14:23, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

(Those Wondering,Swan Song Means 'Final Performance' , as in 'Ending' --Neil2250 , Render Lord 14:43, 10 April 2010 (UTC) )

"It has already been confirmed that GW servers will continue running even after the release of GW2." --Kyoshi (Talk) 18:51, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

A game can keep its servers running even if it's dead. I think the IP meant that this will be the last hurrah for GW content updates, and he's most likely right. Although, if you check out Codex, then you'll see that the game is mostly dead. You can sync two teams there now and play RR over and over again for points. That's how bad it's gotten. Karate Jesus 20:13, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

While, obviously, GW does not any more pull the crowds it used to have when it started, I disagree with your assessment. I played a newish Ele I started up a bit ago today. And not only did I play Hell's Precipice in a group with 6 humans (and we could have had one more, but needed a hero for winter), a bit later, I also ended up watching the Consulate Docks cutscene once more, because one of the people in my PUG had never seen it before. So yes, it is slowly having less people play, but it is still far from dead. --Xeeron 20:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Haven't waited more than a minute to join ZBs and ZMs lately. Manifold 22:44, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Imagine a guild wars where it was always like that, and you'll see what people mean when they say it's dead. is for Raine, etc. 01:26, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

You can't really judge based on the Codex Arena. I've never felt the urge to play "Codex". Yes it's probably because I'm crap, but fact is > 90% of the players are crap too (that's just how it works), so go figure why Codex is dead except when it comes up in the Zaishen Challenge. FWIW, even though I didn't play many Hero Battles, it just seems more interesting than Codex even just as a spectator - better to watch a battle where people control heroes well, than to watch a bunch of cripples and amputees fighting - which is basically what the Codex Arena is. 60.48.225.254 14:07, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) This won't be the last update to GW. If it was, there would of been no point to the Test Krewe and there would be little point in the upcoming Mesmer PvE update. It has been said, I believe, that as long as GW servers are running, the Live Team will continue to produce new content. I believe it was Linsey that said that. -- Konig/talk 02:15, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit: And I know that Linsey wants to keep GW1 running until all 12 Celestial Miniatures are out because they were already made (though this might have changed since the Celestial Summoning Stone was made). -- Konig/talk 02:16, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I would hope they let us use the gw2 engine if they keep the frickin thing open THAT long. –Jette 08:28, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

You can hope, but they are not compatible, so..... --Kairu 19:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

It's not impossible, Ultima Online has been going forever, and I think some people still play Everquest even though it got a sequel. It wouldn't suprise me if they did keep the GW engine running as long as possible, and if that was a long time. This could well be the end of significant new content though. 86.177.123.84 21:38, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Costumes?

I'm feeling costumes coming on. look at the poster, male and female for both factions are even on it. Anyone else getting same feeling? Sox11 17:41, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Gz on not reading the page. is for Raine, etc. 17:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I've been searching, don't see it yet. Will edit if I find anything. EDIT: Found. Taka Ragranok 03:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Real life

Anyone else feel that these messages about thought crimes and opposing the rulers are a little bit too close to home on certain parts of our more and more orvellian societies? Winterbay 10:12, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

no. personally, I think you're too sensitive. butthurt delusional middle-aged white women with an inflated sense of entitlement bitching about the sensitivity of their children is one of the big reasons games can't have nice things. –Jette 11:05, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I didn't claim it to be a bad thing, it's just interesting that it turns up in GW at the same time as surveilance goes up and repressive laws are passed more and more, which is why I am definitely on the side of teh Shining Blade in this conflict so far :) I totally agree that over-sensitive persons with delusional images of how children are and what they need to grow up to be "normal" is one of the biggest problems of today's society... Winterbay 11:53, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps ANet is making a subtle political statement? --Master Briar 11:55, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Or we are just Retards Thinking about it too much?--Neil2250 , Render Lord 12:06, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to have to say that both Neil and Winterbay is right. Writers, artists, game developers - they all get some form of influence from reality. And we know very well that Anet loves to take reality as a reference to making Anet. Now, that said, I don't think that this can be tied to any particular civil war. Many of them work, really. You can also easily tie it to a bunch of religious wars. It's nothing that uncommon either. -- Konig/talk 12:59, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Sometimes a story is just a story. Every time I hear philosophical crap about a story I like I get rather infuriated. Sometimes things just happens, without stupid messages between the lines. MithTalk 17:04, 13 April 2010 (UTC)