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first lol just wanted to first some1 --Nick123 Rainbow phoenix.jpg 18:31, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Don't don't first.[edit]

- J.P.FeedbackTalk 14:00, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

First to realize that you used a double negative? -- FreedomBoundUser Freedom Bound Sig.png 14:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Congratulations :D - J.P.FeedbackTalk 14:54, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
It has always has been beyond me why double negative makes positive, but double positive doesn't make negative C4K3 User C4K3 Signature.jpg Talk 14:54, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
First. -- User Halogod35 Sig.jpg Halogod35 00:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
You wish :D - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 00:34, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

So I heard[edit]

That you archived? Titani Uth Ertan 14:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I heard you like archive. - J.P.FeedbackTalk 14:05, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
I heard you like muffins. Titani Uth Ertan 14:06, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Muffin! *Om nom nom* - J.P.FeedbackTalk 14:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Read moar edit summaries. :P Titani Uth Ertan 14:12, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


>This user is only 18. Deal with it.
LOL I'm 13 C4K3 User C4K3 Signature.jpg Talk 14:56, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Is there something wrong in it? Me being 18 or you being 13? - J.P.FeedbackTalk 15:00, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
18 isn't very "only" in video games. --Cursed Angel Q.Q 15:06, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
It's meant to be sarcastic. - J.P.FeedbackTalk 15:10, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
LOL perfect C4K3 User C4K3 Signature.jpg Talk 15:17, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Sure does explain why u jump to conclusions ¬_¬ (Yeh im bringing teh fight to other pages nao >:3)--Neil2250User Neil2250 sig icon.jpgIm not leaving without a cookie 15:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Wut? - J.P.FeedbackTalk 15:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


:) Titani Uth Ertan 21:09, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

^^ - J.P.FeedbackTalk 01:04, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
One thing: I believe that if you want the old-named-sig image to still appear, you'll have to leave a redirect. Otherwise there'll be a User J.P. sigicon.png all over the place! Your call, though. Titani Uth Ertan 08:50, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
I didn't mark it for deletion lol :P - J.P.FeedbackTalk 10:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Seriously congratulations on the move! C4K3 User C4K3 Signature.jpg Talk 10:48, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
GZ Lilondra User Lilondra Sig.jpg*poke* 18:32, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
I still don't get what's so gz about it :P - J.P.ContributionsTalk 18:35, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Don't spoil a reason to be happy in this fucked up world Lilondra User Lilondra Sig.jpg*poke* 18:37, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Muffin! - J.P.ContributionsTalk 18:40, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Your signature[edit]

Is in breach of the policy champ. Specifically, the image has to either redirect to your talk page or your user page, not your feedback page. Any chance you could fix that? Misery 15:58, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

K, sure ^^ - J.P.FeedbackTalk 16:01, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Dear Mr JP (hereby referred to as "the Client" or "that guy"),[edit]

As you are now considered that guy, you shall receive a cookie. By either responding or ignoring this comment, as by EULA Section 1.2.7 of GWW, you now owe me a piece of muffin. Cranberry surprise muffin. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Moo Kitty (talk).

I only have chocolate ones. - J.P.ContributionsTalk 00:38, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
You can eat my dark chocolate bar all night, hon'. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 13:29, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
No thanks. I'm full already ^^ - J.P.ContributionsTalk 14:07, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I think there has been a failure of understanding. J.P., I'm proud of you. May you remain so for a long time. Titani Uth Ertan 14:11, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I know what it means, but i still spoke the truth. - J.P.ContributionsTalk 15:58, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 :( Titani Uth Ertan 16:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

But honey, I can CHANGE! ---Chaos- (talk) -- 16:03, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

headbang gif[edit]

Can you please provide a source? -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 20:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

You can actually delete it. It doesn't work as it should. - J.P.ContributionsTalk 20:01, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Noticed myself =/ GWW is boring for these copyvio thingies. I heard Iffy disliked them xD ---Chaos- (talk) -- 20:02, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I need[edit]

your advice on an admin-ly sig. If you could make me a flying hamster with a bright pink cape, I'd hug you and never let go. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Moo Kitty (talk).

sounds like a goo deal to me. -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 16:04, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm not yet quite sure about wanting to allow other people than KJ and you into this everlasting group hug of ours. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:30, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Don't worry. I suck at image making. I don't even have proper tools :S
Sorry, but i can't help you there Moo :( - J.P.ContributionsTalk 22:18, 9 October 2009 (UTC)


Need to pay moar attention. I thought that whole page was vandalism. Didn't know it was a real pig.-- User Vanguard VanguardLogo.pnganguard 02:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

An indestructible demon pig. 02:46, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Don't sweat it Van :} - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 02:48, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Dear good sir,[edit]

Would you like to pat your edit count moar? With love, Moo Kitty 04:10, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

You sir, have won 5 internetz. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Moo Kitty (talk • contribs) at 04:17 (UTC).


Just saw the revert comment, do you wish I add how the codes are claimed? Or the source of the codes? Frozenwind 22:06, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Isn't it quite obvious where a community event has got the codes. Only official ways to get these codes is with a collector's edition, first run steel book edition and with regular Aion from NCsoft internet store. That's how the event runners got their codes. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 22:20, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
You are right in the fact that that those are the official ways to gain them. But as the event creator one did not get the codes directly from the boxes as such, but working with a games store to acquire spare codes. Anyway I’m not going to cause trouble; if it was wrong to place it there I apologize for the inconvenience. :) Frozenwind 22:32, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Don't sweat it ^^
One way or another, i wouldn't see it as an official way to get a code. That's why i would not add it. But that's only me.
You should bring this up on emote's talk page if you haven't already. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 22:39, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
I dont think that would resolve the issue. Maybe I could swing it as a promotion in an "Arena-Net" recognized player event, in the notes section? Or shall I just drop it :) Frozenwind 22:54, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Sure, if the event is yet to come. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 22:58, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Righto then, thanks for giving me the advice, tis' appreciated Frozenwind 23:00, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Faithful Intervention‎[edit]

Sorry, I misinterpreted the formatting guide. de Kooning 15:06, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry about it ^^ There actually were two false trainers. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:11, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

My job.[edit]

You is stealing. :P -- User Halogod35 Sig.jpg Halogod35 00:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I wondered what you were doing lately, but i didn't care to check for some reason... - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 00:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Lol. You can do it for me. What I'm doing is adding |aoe = what ever and fixing the elites. -- User Halogod35 Sig.png Halogod35 20:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Moved from User talk: J.P[edit]

There's a lot of pages linking to EotN! If you want to SPEEDY Delete. First RELINK THEM! THANK YOU.♥ Ariyen ♀ 04:02, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, i somehow totally forgot that :S - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Good sir[edit]

Is this actually a screenshot? I realize the original work is, but the fact that you've modified it, wouldn't that just make it property of ANet? Moo Kitty 04:43, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Dear Moo, it's taken out of screenshot, so it's still a screenshot. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 04:47, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I realize that, but considering you wouldn't be able to reproduce that by taking a screenshot... Whatever. Just trying to un-confuzzle my mind about all this policy whoring. Moo Kitty 04:49, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
If it's originally a screenshot, it's a screenshot. If it's from an official source other than the game (arena net renders, dat extracts, etc) it's an arena net image. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 06:53, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
By the way, Moo, it was made by Magamdy, not me. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 07:05, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

I love you[edit]

For reminding me of the horse incident. I just spent a good five minutes in my office laughing. Misery 11:17, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Same here XD - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 11:31, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
This is probably my favourite vandalism of all time. Misery 11:33, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Took me 5 minutes to see it. Funny stuff. NuVII User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg 11:51, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
That's clever :D - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 12:10, 16 October 2009 (UTC)


Thank you! WhyUser talk:Why 11:52, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Boy, am i famous ^^ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 11:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

I made the stupid ladder like you asked me to :P -- User Halogod35 Sig.png Halogod35 15:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

the ladder ent stupid its amasing --Nick123 User Nick123 sig.jpg 17:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Wow, you get alot of new topics lol. -- User Halogod35 Sig.png Halogod35 16:18, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 16:20, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
That's like 29 topics in one month lol. -- User Halogod35 Sig.png Halogod35 16:28, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Take a chill pill[edit]

We give users at least 30 days before we tag images as orphaned. Why are you deciding there is "no need" for another user's image, or tagging one because "It doesn't work for you". You need to rethink your tagging reasons, and your over enthusiasm. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 10:03, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Those were already tagged, check the history :P I just speed up the process :D - J.P.User J.P. Halloween sig.pngTalk 10:07, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Meh, you don't really need to speed em up, unless really necessary. Appreciate ya doing that though to my images, but wasn't necessary. -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 10:21, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

The changes I am making are for ease of making edits, not to make them more difficult. What is easier, having to look through 20 different pages and making a change on all of them, or looking at one page, making a change to that, and that change being automatically updated across all pages that use that same exact information? Just because you have one view of something doesn't mean it is the only view, and not even that it is necessarily the correct one, it just means it is your view. 20:38, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it's my opinion. But didn't mean it offensive, as you seem to see it, in my opinion. And since you told me the usefulness of these, i have nothing against you anymore. - J.P.User J.P. Halloween sig.pngTalk 20:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
I took offense at someone (it seemed at the time) belittling the effort I had put into updating those pages. It ended up costing me about 1/2 hour or so editing after I had the tables and such set up so that they had all of the information previously there. They could still use some tweaking I am sure, but most of the heavy lifting is done by doing this this way. 21:14, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

RE: LolTroll ANet[edit]

Wouldn't things on this wiki be considered part of A-Net, thus why I put the tag on there to begin with? -- My Talk Lacky 06:01, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Nope. ArenaNet doesn't own Mediawiki :P - J.P.User J.P. Halloween sig.pngTalk 07:08, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
True, but it still is their website and wiki. Does that not count? -- My Talk Lacky 06:06, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


omg, thats so KoTOR!!! awesome! Jonny10 Glob of Ectoplasm.png 20:37, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, i started playing it again. And i still love it ^^ - J.P.User J.P. Halloween sig.pngTalk 21:22, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

My pix[edit]

They're supposed to eventually be simply renders, once someone actually does that. That's why I've been tagging differently.-- User Vanguard VanguardLogo.pnganguard 15:42, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

But for now they are screenshots. - J.P.User J.P. Halloween sig.pngTalk 15:43, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Fine :/-- User Vanguard VanguardLogo.pnganguard 15:46, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
And after rendering, they are still screenshots, since the original picture is from in-game. - J.P.User J.P. Halloween sig.pngTalk 15:48, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
I thought renders were just someone pulling the actual model files out of the .dat thing, or whatever?-- User Vanguard VanguardLogo.pnganguard 15:50, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, the official renders. - J.P.User J.P. Halloween sig.pngTalk 15:52, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) No it's not. It's like saying that wine is grapes. Renders only have ArenaNet property, they're not fully screenshots. Titani Uth Ertan 15:53, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
So I wasn't completely wrong?-- User Vanguard VanguardLogo.pnganguard 15:57, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
In this wiki we tag renders taken from .dat or uploaded by ArenaNet as renders. Renders taken out from screenshots are tagged as screenshots. - J.P.User J.P. Halloween sig.pngTalk 16:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
k. *shuffles off*-- User Vanguard VanguardLogo.pnganguard 16:01, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Are you sure? May you please provide a source? Reason tells me otherwise. Titani Uth Ertan 16:02, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

So I saw[edit]

You editted my pictures on my userpage, now they look smooth :D, thanks for that Reaper of Scythes User Reaper of Scythes Juggernaut1.png Talk 17:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Not sure what i had to do with it :D - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 17:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

SoC confirmation[edit]

Hey JP im sure you know this: is there a category on bosses that are not yet SoC confirmed? i used to SoC confirm bosses on wikia and i really enjoyed that so, any idea? Cracko 00:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

All current bosses are confirmed. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 00:41, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 :@ ugh, thanks anyway. Cracko 00:44, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


May I challenge you? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 02:00, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Where? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 02:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Via this here: Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 02:08, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Ok, but i don't have access to any computer right now. I'm wiki'ing with my phone right now. But i'd love to have a match once i have. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 02:20, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
You may contact me in-game via Justiciar Kane when you are ready. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 17:37, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Did you forget something? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 17:42, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Nope. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 17:43, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


The other IP was being retarded. I reverted his edits. They weren't mine. 02:02, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Dreadspawn Maw[edit]

It's not similar to the Sarlacc Pit at all, except for being a hole in the ground with teeth. Like I said on the discussion page before I edited, that happens to be the only similarity. Shape, size, and other features completely separate the Sarlacc Pit from the Dreadspawn Maw. 02:06, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

The original Sarlacc Pit was nothing but a pit with teeth.... - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 02:11, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
And had a bunch of other features that make it completely dissimilar to the Dreadspawn Maw.
1. Sarlacc Pit has a tongue and a beak. Dreadspawn Maw does not.
2. Sarlacc Pit is round. Dreadspawn Maw is not round.
3. Sarlacc Pit eats things. Dreadspawn Maw gives birth to things.
4. Sarlacc Pit is not shaped like a vagina. Dreadspawn Maw is. 02:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Read what i just said. Sarlacc Pit wasn't always like that. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 02:23, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
wasn't, past tense. So what are you arguing about? Titani Uth Ertan 05:42, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


Is that happening anytime soon, cause it's just distracting to wiki readers to see some red link like that on half of their pages... I would suggest at least putting it on all their pages for consistency and possibly for the betterment of viewers add it in a noinclude tag so it's there for if people upload said map. Taros 02:43, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


I thought i read somewhere that your userpic has to link to your talk page/contribs. It doesnt <_<. Sonic Sunday User Da Sonic Sig2.png 22:24, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

It's not a must. But if you'll make it a redirect, it can only link to you userpage, user talk or contributes. Link to contributes is not allowed by the policy, but many use it as such. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 22:39, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


For fixing the picture tags for me. I uploaded incorrectly, and knew I was missing something. Sorry to cause you more work! User_Lyger_SignatureText.png‎yger talk 15:50, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

It wasn't much a big deal ^^ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:52, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

*hits pause button on J.P.*[edit]

Hold up a sec, please. Why are you removing the "unique" tag from the boss articles? It's in the formatting policy (GWW:NPC). -- FreedomBoundUser Freedom Bound Sig.png 20:35, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, i thought it was another 42's masterplan :P - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 20:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
No problem. :) -- FreedomBoundUser Freedom Bound Sig.png 20:38, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for making RC look a bit better :) poke | talk 20:40, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
That's a good point. Why is it a template? :/ -- pling User Pling sig.png 20:42, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Never mind. Should really browse a bit first before I ask ... -- pling User Pling sig.png 20:43, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Ask 42 :/ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 20:43, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday<- Highlight this on Jan. 9th[edit]

-- 00:15, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

...Thanks. Though you're about two months too early... - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 00:19, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I fixed it. -- 00:24, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


I dont know why, but it just made me smile: "You can choose not to use Shadow Form" is the lamest reply i've ever heard... - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:58, 20 November 2009 (UTC) -- Cyan User Cyan Light sig.jpg 11:21, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

It's true much. You can choose not to drink water, either. Titani Uth Ertan 11:25, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
I don't say it isn't true, but my point was that you CAN use other builds and that some people (not calling names) care too much.. But maybe thats just me -- Cyan User Cyan Light sig.jpg 12:08, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Of course you can. But a problem is a problem until fixed, and saying something like "Over population isn't a problem; just nuke places" isn't fixing anything; it's just working around the problem or completely ignoring it. Titani Uth Ertan 12:13, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
I realise Shadow Form is a problem and I hope they do something about it, but I still think people make it way too big.. -- Cyan User Cyan Light sig.jpg 12:17, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I forgot that when I select a Hard difficulty, and then I cheat my way through it, it's no big deal. I mean, why actually make something a challenge if you can Gameshark your way through it, right? Titani Uth Ertan 12:19, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Lol, you got me.. I dont know how to react on his ^^ -- Cyan User Cyan Light sig.jpg 12:21, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Cause that's what makes games fun. What's Diablo II with out hero editor? -- User Halogod35 Sig.png Halogod35 13:53, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Why are you playing when you can't lose? Titani Uth Ertan 14:01, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Cause I get things, my way. You know what they say, "To each of his own" or what ever it is. -- User Halogod35 Sig.png Halogod35 14:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
I would have understood if it had some challenge left, and not turn it into an idle game. Titani Uth Ertan 14:08, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Lol, actually I did grow bored of it. Diablo II is my solitaire now. But I play it in class while the teachers think I'm taking notes. :) -- User Halogod35 Sig.png Halogod35 14:10, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for the translation. :) -- FreedomBoundUser Freedom Bound Sig.png 20:13, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Actually i didn't read what you said. But it turned out to be a close translation after all. Not word by word, but the same idea :D - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 20:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

I MISS YOU!![edit]

:( Titani Uth Ertan 08:22, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

What? I'm not going anywhere. I might have been away from here lately, but i'm back now :) - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 11:30, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


The emails we mainly worry about are the ones that are in the help section that are linked to game accounts. Ive seen guild pages with phone numbers. User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png Drogo Boffin 04:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

By the way, where have you been? I haven't seen you around lately, Mr. Anger. - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 04:25, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
LOL I took a little bit of a break. Im here on the weekends and I dont have much time for the internet during the week. User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png Drogo Boffin 04:27, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Moving guilds to historical[edit]

We have a bot that does this. please check poke's talk history of his bot (which is the one that does the moving). The reason people don't move guilds is because so much gets 'lost'. Hope you check that out. Thanks! -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 07:12, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, i know poke has his Wikichu bot. What's the big deal? Besides, it isn't forbidden in any way to move guild pages by yourself... - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 12:41, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
  1. Watchlists
  2. Recent Changes
  3. Some complex data loss (I don't know much about it either)
  4. Moving one at a time just takes too long to be efficient.
  5. ...
  6. Titani Uth Ertan 12:43, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
This guild had only one page. Just give it up -.- - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 12:45, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps that one. But what about others? One case incidents aren't a big deal, but Ariyen is talking about a general issue. Titani Uth Ertan 12:49, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm not going to move any other inactive guilpages! Especially if a guild has multiple pages. - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 12:59, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Why? Titani Uth Ertan 13:00, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Forgot one word XP - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 13:11, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
oh lol, makes more sense now. Titani Uth Ertan 13:12, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
It's ok to archive a guild if the guild has indicated it's disbanded, etc. however, if you are simply archiving guilds off the inactive list, there are things that you need to do before you archive them. You also need to make sure you manually add the capeimage to the infobox, and remove any "recruiting" categories. Once the inactive guild list gets to a point where an archival is needed, (close to the 500 mark) I go through each page and do all the necessary checks and then create a list for Wikichu to work off of. It's generally easier to allow Wikichu to do these as the bot makes all the necessary changes to the page, as well as deletes the left over redirect. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 13:44, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
This was a guild that's disbanded. - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 15:35, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
The bot rarely gets run, so I don't see what the problem is with just this one guild.
EDIT: Think about it, if there was a vandal, and you had a bot to remove vandals and revert vandalised pages and stuff, what would you do? Wait for enough vandals to strike to use the bot, or would you do it yourself? -- My Talk Lacky 07:43, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Those are urgent situations, unlike the guild pages. - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 09:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Korean, Japanese and Chinese letters.[edit]

moved from Help talk:Contents#Korean, Japanese and Chinese letters.

I can only see these as a bunch of letters and numbers inside little boxes. How to fix this? P.S. I couldn't find a proper place for this question :P - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 17:22, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Actually i shouldn't have posted this here at all :X - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 17:26, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
You need to install the fonts. - Mini Me talk 17:43, 26 December 2009
You think? :D
But where? - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 17:48, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't know. Google it. - Mini Me talk 17:57, 26 December 2009
See w:Help:Multilingual support (East Asian). --Silver Edge 18:03, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) While you're at it, get Olde English Font. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 18:04, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Ok, i did everything by the instructions and did some additional changes. All i have to do is to reboot now.
@Halogod: Can you find this inside the settings or do i have to download it somewhere? - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 18:25, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Download it, unless you got word 2007+ you might have it. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 18:28, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
If i have the font already, what's the easiest way to check it? - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 18:30, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Downloaded it and placed it in the right folder, i hope... - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 18:44, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Lol, it's the best font ever ^^ →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 20:32, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Hey man[edit]

Are you still depressed? - Mini Me talk 19:22, 28 December 2009

Yeah and still on medication. Why? - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 19:33, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Just wondering. I'm a carebear, really. Hope all will be going better for you, soon. - Mini Me talk 21:19, 30 December 2009

Happy Birthday![edit]

Happy Birthday! This user would like to wish you a Happy Birthday!

-- My Talk Lacky 12:34, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! ^^ - J.P.User J.P. Christmas sig.pngTalk 12:43, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Happy birthday ;) WhyUser talk:Why 15:12, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Happy birthday! -- Salome User salome sig2.png 15:33, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Many years ago today

Something grew inside of your mother

That thing was YOU!

You! You! You! You! You!

Did she scream? Did she cry?

Only those that are born

Are ones that get to die!

One more year closer to dying

Rotting organs ripping grinding

Biological discordance

Birthday equals self-abhorrence

Years keep passing, aging always

Mutate into vapid slugs

Doctor gives a new prescription

Bullet in a fucking gun

One more year closer to dying

Plastic surgeons fuel the lying

You forget why you came in here

Your mind rots with every New Year

R.S.V.P., please

For the deth of thee

You have little time

And you're running out of life

Happy Birthday

You're gonna die!

Now you're old and full of hatred

Take a pill To masturbated

Children point to you and scream

Because they will become that thing

One more year of further suffering

There's no point of fucking bluffing

Open up your Dethday present

It's a box of fucking nothing

R.S.V.P., please

For the deth of thee

You have little time

And you're running out of life

Happy birthday

You're gonna die! NuVII User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg 16:57, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

What he said, and congratulations =) -- Cyan User Cyan Light sig.jpg 17:45, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
ditto (: –User Balistic Pve B d-dark.jpgalistic 18:06, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks guys, especially Nuclear! ^^ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 07:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Dye Chart[edit]

Where does it say that it has to be in a specific order? I do not see that. It's a guideline, not a policy and I think all of those images need to be undone, unless you can prove otherwise. Kaisha User Kaisha Sig.png 10:40, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Here it is, the first part. It's been done like this since the project started. And i see no reason to change that. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 10:43, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Shard is the one who uploaded some of those photos (as he's listed as one of the helpers on that project) and it states this "Dye charts include black, blue, brown, default, gray, green, orange, purple, silver, red, white and yellow" first in that same paragraph, which the photos are done after. I think the one that you're referring to is for the weapons. Kaisha User Kaisha Sig.png 10:45, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
It is a bit unclear (imo all color lists should use the same order, to avoid just this kind of confusion), but the list that explicitly gives the exact order to be used states: "The dye color arrangement follows a set pattern of default > yellow > orange > red > green > blue > purple > brown > silver > white > black > gray. For Festival Hats and Common Armor you do not need to include the default color as that is gray." --Lensor (talk) 10:54, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
The first set of colors only tells what colors should be used in dye charts. You notice how these are in aphabetical order.
And you may notice how the colors in Shard's images are not in that order.
And the guidelines are meant for all dye charts in this project, not just for weapons. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 10:56, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Alright, noticed. I do agree with Lensor, it is confusing. Kaisha User Kaisha Sig.png 10:57, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
The weapon charts were done with default > yellow > orange > red > green > blue > purple > brown > silver > white > black > gray - order, so we should stick with it to avoid confusion, in my opinion. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 11:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Also, in my opinion, each little image should be named as to what color that dye is. I have noticed some images have this and some don't. I prefer the ones that do. Kaisha User Kaisha Sig.png 11:03, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
"The dye color is labeled using white san-serif text against the dye chart."
That's just a bit below the section we were talking about.Shard should read these guidelines :P - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 11:07, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Yep. Those that do the images, should read the guidelines. Kaisha User Kaisha Sig.png 11:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Just thought I'd step in as J.P. is just helping with the dye charts project (that I started and wrote the guidelines for). One of the main things I noticed before I started the project was that there were dozens of different ways people did their dye chart. At the end of the day, when I started writing up the project, I thought if we are going to go through the process of making, editing, uploading, adding information, etc. then we could at least be consistent. At the end of the day it's a project guideline, and they cannot be enforced. I could go back an redo all the images that need redone, but lately I've lost interest in the game and while it would be good to have consistency, any dye chart is better than none sometimes. ~Celestia 11:45, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi there sir...[edit]

No one else has said it, that I can see, but welcome back! May the recent changes be once again cluttered by your image formatting skills. ~Celestia 10:47, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! :D - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 10:48, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
"Edit conflict: Abaddon's Gate" & "File:Abaddon's Gate map.jpg‎; 14:11 . . (+26) . . J.P. (+category)"... /fistshake, I was getting to that after! And thank you for Chahbek move ~Celestia 06:16, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I have to say it is not[edit]

Irregardless, while in common speech, is not a proper word. What is your proof that it is? Lady Chani 16:20, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

If it is used, doesn't it mean it's a word?
But if it's such an issue for you, whatever then :P - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 16:26, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Irregardless of what Lady Chani may say, I speak very goodest England. Thanks! NuVII User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg 16:34, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
^- I assume a joke, yes? It actually took me a few moments to think that you weren't being serious.
I have a tendency to be a bull-headed grammar Nazi. >>;;; Sorry for clashing with you. I meant no offense, J.P. Lady Chani 16:37, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
No worries :) - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 16:38, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Double-negatives and whatnot. "Irregardless of all your good behavior, this one bad incident will come back to haunt you." = "Regarding all your good behavior, this one bad incident will come back to haunt you." What? --User Ezekial Riddle silverbluesig.pngRIDDLE 17:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


-cough- →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 15:30, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Formatting Changes You Have Been Doing[edit]

Looking at the recent changes, I have noticed you have made several changes to articles that do not actually change how the article looks on any web browser, like adding spaces that are not needed. Two examples are [1] and [2]. I hate to say that you've been wasting your time with those changes, but there's no other way of saying it. :/ C2Talon 10:03, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

^Formatting etiquette standards. -- My Talk Lacky 11:16, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
It is fixing something that is not broke. If you can tell me the differences between the old and the new just by looking at the rendered pages in your web browser, I will eat my hat. Also, it is not formatting standards at all; having those spaces is just a coding style, since it does not change anything fundamentally (though I would argue that those spaces shouldn't be there to optimize the generated HTML, but again: coding style). Unless of course I missed the part about "spacing your wiki code" on the formatting pages; if so, a direct link would be appreciated. C2Talon 13:21, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
It's just common wiki practise. -- My Talk Lacky 08:21, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

We have/had a corversation about this in here. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 08:23, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Tag revert[edit]

Heya. Noticed you reverted an inactivity tag of mine. Not like I will bother to re-revert or anything, but you may want to note that the only activity on that forum was about Aion. I.e. there were no "GW-related" updates for the last three months, so the tag was actually correct. --Lensor (talk) 09:59, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

"By Ural's Hammer!"[edit]

Is the proper capitalization in game. Also, if a page needs to be moved, it needs to be MOVED, to maintain the proper history. This page however does not need to be moved, as it is correct the way it is. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 15:17, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

If a move for some reason doesn't work, use the {{move}} tag on the page you want to move, or put a delete tag on the target page - in other words, try and get a sysop to sort it out. That would be preferable to having attribution issues which come with manually moving content :P. -- pling User Pling sig.png 15:47, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


I win.....User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png Drogo Boffin 21:21, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh no you don't! - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 21:23, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
LoL. User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png Drogo Boffin 21:24, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I win! ^^ -- 21:25, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

wat--TahiriVeila 21:25, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Awwww Mister J.P ruined it ;( -- 21:31, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Muahahahahaaa!!!1! - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 21:35, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
*sighs and goes to cry in the corner* -- 21:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


Just saying, you know, while I am being mean to you tonight and all. Misery 22:46, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

But is it technically redirecting to user space? --JonTheMon 22:48, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Ooooooh, good technicality. Misery 22:49, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) x2 If your argument was R1 being the right deletion category, i must disagree. The redirect didn't redirect outside the File namespace. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 22:49, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Now you need to go cook up an image for me =P--TahiriVeila 23:12, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


Do we really need/want shortcuts for the talk pages? Just seems a bit weird to me. Misery 14:55, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Seem like it. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:57, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
People are weird yo. I don't mean you by the way, you are totally normal and I'm a horse so I don't mean me. Misery 15:01, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Should we be talking about these shortcuts, me being normal or not? :D - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
It just seemed like a bit of a waste of time to make them to me, but there is precedent, so if you want to do it, go nuts. Misery 15:06, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
I think it's ok to create a shortcut for a talkpage, as long as a main article has a counterpart. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:13, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Shortcuts to failed policies seems really, really odd. Maybe we should be somewhat more selective =/ Misery 16:14, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
I thought no one would mind, but ok. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 16:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
It just reduces the usefulness of the whole thing when we have shortcuts that will never be used ever. I'll bring it up on the talk page. Misery 16:19, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
You really could have updated that list with one edit :/ poke | talk 17:33, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
I tried, but i panicked that i might mess it all up :S
But i'll try again. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 17:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


You are so evil. - Mini Me talk 20:09, 27 February 2010

No matter what Briar is, what rights Chaos has to do that? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 20:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I stared at that sentence for ten seconds before bursting out in laughter. I don't think there is any way in which you could have taken my comment seriously. [3] too. ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 21:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure if J.P. is serious. - Mini Me talk 21:50, 27 February 2010
Me neither. ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 21:57, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
How terribly annoying. - Mini Me talk 22:10, 27 February 2010

Show Preview[edit]

Hi J.P., welcome to the wiki. When editing a page, please use the Show Preview button (found next to the Save Changes button) to preview your edits and see if anything is wrong before saving the page. This prevents Recent Changes spam. Thanks. I kid, I kid! ~Celestia 16:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

It's funny when i use show preview, there are no errors. And i when i don't, there's tons of them :P - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 16:04, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
You're doing it wrong right wrong. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 16:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


To test targeting, use something like Zealot's Fire or look for Divine Favour heals. Just because you don't require a target doesn't mean it is self targetting. For example, Weapon of Aggression has "you" as a target instead of self. As such it will not remove a condition when used with Wielder's Remedy. That kind of information is very fiddly but useful. Stances used to be self targetting and trigger Zealot's Fire, but this was changed due to people spamming stances for high short duration DPS. Misery 21:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I've messed things up once again. Hurray! -.- - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 21:39, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
It kind of seems like I'm picking on you doesn't it ^^ I don't even know if you got it wrong on Dwayna's Light (the one I noticed it on), it was more of a FYI. Skill pages is an area of the wiki I am interested in, so I tend to keep an eye on it. I'll also point out, I was wrong the first time ^______^ Misery 21:47, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
These targeting categories do require some work too. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 01:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)


Finnish. And MtG. ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 17:04, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 17:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Are you also homosexual? ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 17:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
No, unfortunately. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 17:50, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
I thought we'd fit together so perfectly. ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 18:04, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank You[edit]

Re: Image, Thank you <3.MystiLefemEle 12:37, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem ^^ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 13:52, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


That how you want it? :P--/ u /nendingfear 19x19px 15:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but it's a bit messy now. The font could be a bit bigger. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:34, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
I think you took care of that? :)--/ u /nendingfear 19x19px 15:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeah. I hate how <span> can't make it through two tranclusions :( - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:41, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
It can't? >.>;--/ u /nendingfear 19x19px 15:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
I tried the font you gave in here, which is transcluded over here, and it didn't work :/ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:50, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Ah, ok. <.<--/ u /nendingfear 19x19px 15:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Olde English. Obaby that's hot. xD →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 16:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Made it again a bit bigger. Now the font looks clean to me. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 16:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Obey the laws here on Manaan, human.[edit]

KotOR :) Reaper of Scythes** User Reaper of Scythes Juggernaut1.png 20:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes it is. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 20:14, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
The second game is better. Discuss. Thanks! NuVII User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg 23:16, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Little late, but the 2nd game wasn't even finished though the story was excellent, Kreia was an amazing character. The plot twist in the 1st game was unexpected and brilliant. So overall the 1st one is better and that's about all I have to say about it. Reaper of Scythes** User Reaper of Scythes Juggernaut1.png 19:05, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Finnish userbox[edit]

Did you mean you want to add a parameter to allow you to display either European English territory or American territory in the box? --Ceru talk contribs 15:59, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Done. It will look correct once the server refreshes. --Ceru talk contribs 19:57, 23 March 2010 (UTC)


is it true you stay on RC page all day? You signed my comment for me without replying... do something about the pic 16:42, 22 March 2010 (UTC)


Blasphemy! The new video interface is butt ugly and i don't like it. The only change i like is the thumbs up, thumbs down rating. At first when i heard this change is coming, i hated the idea. But it's actually better than the five stars rating system. People usually rated either five stars or one star. I've seen or heard someone saying: What if the video is not good, but not bad either? Like average. Simple! You don't rate at all ^^ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 06:46, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Remaining links behind protection[edit]

Don't worry about those if they are on the list of guild names by tag. That link will be automatically removed/fixed in the future. Misery 12:25, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

1 per, 2 per[edit]

Do we really need a progression bar if it's a straight +1 per rank or +2 per rank? --JonTheMon 13:49, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Why not? We have those already. There are similar factors on other skills and we still use the progress bar on those pages. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 13:52, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that, but it could be interpreted as 1/2, which begs the "rounds up or rounds down?" question. Also, division is usually more difficult than multiplication (simple doubling). I just think +1 and +2 progression bars are doing maths for the user too much. --JonTheMon 13:55, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't mind. And after all it's a changing factor on skill's function. And the bar doesn't take that much space on a page either. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:02, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Shield handles aren't inscriptions[edit]

Here. Have I said there that handles = inscriptions? Could you please read my sentences again and think at least 1 minute what have I attempted to explain? If you will not change your opinion, I need to apologise for uncleare thought... Thanks. --Slavic 08:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

It's been so long since Nightfall came out, so i forgot this ^^ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 08:29, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
OK, I see :) --Slavic 08:53, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

anomalies rev[edit]

hi, why did you rev my removal of anomalies without comment? I have explained my opinion on why they are not anomalies and nobody objected. User RolandOfGilead sig.png Roland of Gilead talk 10:50, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

I left my comment on the talk page. We can't be sure are these signets meant to have an aftercast, or is it a bug. This most likely needs consulting from ArenaNet. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 10:53, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
As long as ANet doesnt weigh in on or fix the issue, shouldn't we go by the most probable explanation? And since the supposedly anomalous behaviour of Dolyak sig and sig of mystic speed (has aftercast delay, has to be queued) is consistent with all other signets in the game, wouldnt that be the explanation that they are working as designed? User RolandOfGilead sig.png Roland of Gilead talk 11:03, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
no its pretty darned stupid to stop wihle moving or being knocked down althoug you haev 16 strength 11:07, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
There are many issues ArenaNet doesn't fix. But it doesn't mean you can't try. Until we have an answer, all we can do is assume. And i don't like that solution too much. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 11:12, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Until we have an answer, all we can do is assume. Technically, but that may be just crazy talk, we can reason and exchange arguments. And i don't like that solution too much. I guess that settles it then. User RolandOfGilead sig.png Roland of Gilead talk 12:02, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry Roland but I am with J.P on this one. These two signets don't behave like other signets do. So it would be good to know if it's intented or not before removing anomaly tag. Anyway it doesn't hurt to have that piece of information on the page. 12:51, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Lieutenant Thackeray and his Paper Wrapped Parcels[edit]

You removed the note on the parcel page, but i think the note about the requirements that need to be set in order for him to appear in Ice Cliff Chasms belongs to both pages. Anyone that just looks at the Paper Wrapped Parcel page will wonder why he doesn't appear. That information is also part of the acquisition, so i don't know why players should need to figure that out by skimming through Thackeray's article at first. Information like that is often found twice in accordant articles. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 10:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

You're right. My mistake. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 10:02, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
no problem :P i see you were looking for Drake Kabobs as well^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 17:51, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Those are bitchy to get :D - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 18:34, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
indeed, you have to walk across half the map each time to find a tiny group of them :o —ZerphatalkThe Improver 19:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
And they refuse to drop any meat on top of that. I've tried to get even one for almost the whole day, with zero results. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 19:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
bad luck i guess, i got three of them. two at the same time from a single group, i guess that was a lucky drop. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 21:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Curse you![edit]

It takes forever to edit on an iPhone...only to be edit conflicted! Thanks though. ~Celestia 12:32, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

^^ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 12:33, 4 April 2010 (UTC)


  1. I know how bugs that need fixing are documented.
  2. This is actually a useful feature.
  3. It is preferable that it NOT be changed.
  4. Therefore a 'bug' report on it is NOT appropriate.
  5. Please put it back to the way I had it (as a Note).
  6. If you do insist that the comment about it might be a bug really bugs you, either:
    1. Remove the comment, or
    2. Change it to something like 'This is a feature, not a bug.

--Max 2 13:04, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

It's community what decides is it a bug or not.
And why you bring the discussion here? It should be on it's respective page :P
On top of that, this feature isn't fully reliable, since it's know that the actual intoxication level and screen effect won't always change at the same time. Check the Notes section to see it for yourself. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 13:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
- So now you are the community. You get to ignore the fact that it is a desirable feature and would best be left alone. I call 'bull shit'.
- The comment is here and on the discussion page, because you are the one who could fix the problem you just created most easily. Because you are the best one to fix it, I put the comment here first.
- The change in the post-processing effect is delayed due to communication delays, and probably other factors, but is still a useful indicator. It may not be quite as rapid or completely reliable as the title bar points update, but it is reasonably useful and timely.
--Max 2 13:40, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
No, i'm not the community. We both reverted once, resulting the page as it is now. And i'm not gonna do anything until we have a consensus on this. You've asked someone else to review this. I want it too. So all we do now is wait and discuss (here) this further when someone else gives his opinion. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 13:49, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
If you want this bug to remain in the game, the correct place to tell ANet that is on ANet's talk pages. Or possibly in your feedback namespace. The mainspace page about a title track is not where that kind of plea goes, no matter what the issue is or how much you want it to stay.
It seems like a bug, so I'll just leave the bug note as is. -Auron 14:11, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
- Discussion belongs on the Talk:Drunkard page where people can see it, not here.
- Yes, I think the anomaly should remain. That means there should not be a bug tag on it. On the other hand a Note on how to use the anomaly is appropriate. How would you phrase the request to ArenaNet and exactly where should it go, particularly since it is a request that they do not do something?
--Max 2 14:33, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
"Discussion belongs on the Talk:Drunkard page where people can see it, not here."
You created the section. Also, just do nothing and tag it as a bug? I don't think ANet is actually going to care at all. ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 15:25, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) I would phrase it like this: "Dear <arenanet employee>, please do not fix [[link to bug|this]] bug. It is very useful and makes it easier to finish an otherwise quite irritating title track. Thanks. <insert signature>".
As for the discussion here, you started it.
And a bug is a bug, it doesn't matter whether you feel it should remain or not. It's still a bug.
Also, what Chaos said. - Mini Me talk 15:29, 4 April 2010
Stop the pile on guys. Read the whole thread. There is a reason this (a side issue) got put here but further discussion of the main issue belongs on Talk:Drunkard. --Max 2 21:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I like piling.
Perhaps this should be moved to Talk:Drunkard though? - Mini Me talk 21:54, 4 April 2010
Just keep the discussion there (it's there already too). Just stop posting here already! :) - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 21:56, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
This talk page is very comfortable though :\ - Mini Me talk 22:18, 4 April 2010

The Difference[edit]

Between an "abbreviation" and "short name": what is it? User Raine R.gif is for Raine, etc. 03:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Abbreviation stands for something. --Master BriarUser Briar Sig 2.jpg 03:10, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Your very obvious statement enlightened me. User Raine R.gif is for Raine, etc. 03:12, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
there isn't one. most people on the wiki have "abbreviation" confused with "acronym." saying "apply" instead of "apply poison" is abbreviating it, but I think they still use short name instead. -Auron 03:17, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
My enlightenment just died. Now I'm confused. If they're both the same, why do we have both? User Raine R.gif is for Raine, etc. 03:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
I like to thing a redirect missing word or The from the article name it redirects to is a short name.
But when a redirect only has the first letter of each word of the article name it redirects to, UW for example, that's an abbreviation to me.
Maybe not the best example, but you get the idea. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 03:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
think* –User Balistic B d-dark.pngalistic 03:32, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
An abbreviation is like UW, SS, SoA, and ZB for example. Now, a short name is like Llye, Dchop, etc. These are not to be confused with common name, which, for example, is like Jesus Beam. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 14:30, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
That's my point. Those aren't abbreviations, those are acronyms. -Auron 00:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Auron is correct here, SoA and Apply are both abbreviations. SoA is also an acronym. Misery 14:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello - RE: Gorani[edit]

Not a problem at all, some of the pictures, how to say this, no one is looking at them, some are duplicated. Like this one of Benato (link: it is the same as this one, that I uploaded yesterday, (link: but because they are under different category, hence duplicated.

Regarding Gorani, if I hadn't change the file, no one would have notice those picture are duplicate, the previous picture which i edited from, wasn't even etched out properly and has very bad light/dark quality.

So if you see that those files are duplicate, go ahead and replace them. Long story short - do what you think is correct, its all for the good of the wiki. I don't mind at all. Pumpkin pie User Pumpkin pie sig.jpg 18:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

PS, if you know how to revert file back to the previous one (cos i don't know how to do that yet), check out these two files, please if you will, Krytan Female (link: Clearly the one provided by Emily is clearly of better quality. why the new file? Pumpkin pie User Pumpkin pie sig.jpg 18:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Less white area in the image. Looks better on pages. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 18:14, 5 April 2010 (UTC)


Why are you replacing renders holding the correct weapons with renders holding incorrect weapons? Misery 14:14, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

All charr using the warrior skin are supposed to use the same file. Right now the image shows a charr with weapons. The idea is to upload one without any weapons. Like File:Charr shaman.jpg. I think this warrior image is replaced with a weaponless model soon in future. People like Celestia are working really hard on this project. But if you think the images shouldn't be changed before the new image, i'll halt the changes on that model. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Putting up incorrect images seems like an obviously bad thing to me. If we have weaponless renders that is one thing, but putting up renders with the wrong weapon is a terrible idea. This has come up before for NPCs like Magni the Bison. Misery 14:22, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Damn that Magni..Bane of my existance...Because "people like Celestia are working really hard on this project", I guess I better get back to it >< ~Celestia 14:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


Oops! Good catch :P - Mini Me talk 16:05, 6 April 2010

How do I resize it?[edit]

height: 10px; width:10px; --SilentStorm Talk to me 16:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I made that one for userpages, see here and here. ~Celestia 17:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't scale propelly. It just changes how much i see of it :P - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 18:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
I made my own ^^ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 19:14, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Guild image[edit]

Because i do not know, why my photo isn't upload The preceding unsigned comment was added by Supremo (talk) at 18:44, 07 April 2010 (UTC).

You mean this? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 18:47, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes I got my guild page and SubPage for other language. And on original, which i made first i got it, but on subpage dont... And i dont know why? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Supremo (talk) at 18:52, 07 April 2010 (UTC).

I see what you're after. I'll take care of it ^^ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 18:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

O... Thanks :) It appeard. Thank you The preceding unsigned comment was added by Supremo (talk) at 18:58, 07 April 2010 (UTC).

Shining Blade[edit]

Vandalised your page too, their paint must me running out by now. Reaper of Scythes** User Reaper of Scythes Juggernaut1.png 20:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Never! - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 20:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


Thanks.. if you know how to fix my problem, feel free to tell me ;x Amina 03:55, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Best Failure Ever[edit]

Nice One >_< --Neil2250 , Render Lord User Neil2250 sig icon5.jpg 20:06, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

See the edit summary. That was the first that came to mind :P - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 20:07, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


[4], talking about RC stalking. Reaper of Scythes** User Reaper of Scythes Juggernaut1.png 12:18, 10 April 2010 (UTC)


your doing to much.have a break.have a Crane Egg Kit-Kat.--Neil2250 , Render Lord User Neil2250 sig icon5.jpg 12:57, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Not now! - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 12:58, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Image fix[edit]

ty! --Silverleaf Special:Contributions/SilverleafDon't assume, Know! 22:09, 10 April 2010 (UTC)


It would have been easier if you edited that page once :o poke | talk 14:36, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but it would have had many red links for a while. And i wasn't sure would i do all the moves in one sit. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:38, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
You could have moved first, then changed the usages and then tagged it for deletion. That way the image redirects would have kept the old usages intact. But now it's done. :) poke | talk 14:40, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Ofcourse! /facepalm XD - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:41, 11 April 2010 (UTC)