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Do me a favour

And send me a message through msn. They have changed the way web messenger works and I can't for the life of me figure out how the blasted thing works. Misery 08:32, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


I've been doing some tagging, but had a question. Images such as these, are they to be considered screenshots or ArenaNet images? I believe I heard heavily edited screenshots like these were to be tagged ArenaNet and not screenshot, but I could be wrong. Please enlighten my ways, o Goddess of Editing! WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 13:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

{{ArenaNet image}} Talk page Drogo Boffin 13:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. :) WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 13:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Wiki noob idea

"I have also been working on an email to send to each of them explaining what has been done, and that they will no longer receive "You have new messages" alerts when they log in... -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 04:51, 30 June 2009 (UTC)" I had a thought about this, but I don't know if it would work. Would it be possible to transclude the feedback dev talkpage onto the user dev talkpage and have the user dev talkpage redirect to the feedback one? That way, someone would still be redirected to the feedback dev talkpage but every change made there would also appear on the actual user dev talkpage. If that's possible, couldn't that be a possible solution to the lack of "You have new messages" alerts? (Satanael 18:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC))

I don't believe updates to a transcluded page generate modification alerts for the page into which the transclusion is done (since the code of the latter page never changes). Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 18:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Are you sure? Because they show up on your watchlist (or, at least they do on Wikipedia, which I assume is the same here). I admit I have never had my user page transcluded, so I still have no idea if that could work. (Satanael 18:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC))
(Edit conflict) x2 No. That is just going to make things more convoluted than it needs to be. This will in reality be a relatively seamless transistion, with the exception of the New message alert (which is being looked into also). If we can't work out how to change it, the staff will simply have to start using their watchlists more. I have this all worked out in my head, I just don't seem to be able to convey it on the wiki, so the discussion continues. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 18:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm, ok, I trust your head, though I'm not too sure how that would make things "too convoluted" since the userpage would still remain "invisible" because of the redirect. Not a big deal, just thought I would throw it out there in case it was helpful. (Satanael 18:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC))
It may just be my head that's making it too convoluted :P We can test the new message trigger on my wiki. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 18:36, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Try this [1] -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 18:50, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
I started testing, but you must help me, Obi-Wyn! (Satanael 19:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC))
I set my talk page up to do what you suggested, and I did not get a new message notice when I logged in. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 19:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I tried doing it with my talk page as well. Looks like you were right, Aiiane. Bummer. (Satanael 19:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC))

See this ------> >:|

That's my "I've been waiting so long my tea has gone cold." face. >:| >:) ^_^ ~~ 20:09, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Waiting for? Did I miss something? -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 20:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
O.O I feel so unloved. [/cries]. lol Nevermind, early morning (my time) humour. ^_^ ~~ 20:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
HAHAHA!... sorry, /me throws 000 a cookie! -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 20:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
OH MY GOD! [/rolls on the floor holding his face] (The preceding is an illustration of how missing the catch can turn a harmless cookie into a desk-top frag grenade) ^_^ ~~ 20:34, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

You characters Elite skills

I stole your elite skills template from Alexa N Dryte so I could put it on Drogo and I noticed that you have Charge! in the template as "Charge!" and it doesnt check off the skill. I fixed it on your Alexa and your warrior. Just letting you know since you may be using these to keep up with the elites on all of your characters. Talk page Drogo Boffin 23:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

That was because someone changed her template before without telling anyone. "Charge!" used to check it off fine until the template was mucked with. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 00:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I addressed the issue when the skill name was changed, but Chaiyo chose to ignore me and changed my template. I have undone both his change to my template, and your change to Alexa's page. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 00:02, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Ah well ppl need to leave shit alone. :) Talk page Drogo Boffin 00:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Quick question

Hey Wyn. If you have a chance could you look at my Character Page. For some reason the goals section isn't sitting up right with the titles section, and I can't seem to figure out why. It's probably something obvious, but since this page was created from something you originally designed, I'm sure you could figure it out. Thanks. —User Rein sig.pngRein 01:25, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind.—User Rein sig.pngRein 22:47, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Just in case

...This got buried and you missed my reply:

"I understand the issues, however, we have little choice atm. I asked for names for the task force, and it was me and poke, and I had to nominate poke. No one else volunteered or offered any other opinons, so rather than delaying the implementation of the namespace, Emily set it up for sysop only editing. That can be changed (from what I understand), but not today, and not without having more names. Now... I'm here, I'm willing, and able to do things in the namespace, so tell me what you wish me to do. -- Wyn talk 02:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, maybe I missed something, but when did you ask for names for the task force? I also recall you nominating both me and Erasculio when you nominated poke, and both of us accepting. Maybe I don't understand how that part was supposed to be set up, but I thought Emily said something about the non-sysop task force members being temporarily promoted to sysop so they could edit the feedback namespace, is that how it will work? If so, who does the promoting? (Satanael 07:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC))"

-Satanael 08:03, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I know Satanael, the whole discussion got rather buried among other stuff. I will talk to Emily tomorrow about setting up a special usergroup for this and include you and Erasculio. Things just haven't gone the way anyone (especially me) was hoping. I'm sorry if I seem crabby about it, it's been a source of annoyance for me for the past couple of weeks, and it's NOT you, or Erasculio. I'm just trying to do my best to keep this moving forward in any fashion, and it's hard, it seems like there was absolutely no comment on anything for days and days after the namespace got implemented, and it's felt rather like I'm the only one that cares about it (though I know that's not true). It seems the greater wiki drama of Shard's arb com, Auron's rfr, and the election took everyone's focus off of this thing that we've been working towards for months and months. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 08:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
It's okay, I hope it didn't seem like I was harping on you for this, I'm just excited and wanted to get rolling (for some reason I just got an image in my head of my dog whining at the door to go out...). I mostly just want to understand what is happening and what will be happening, which for some reason I never feel like I do on wikis. Anyway, it's 4AM, maybe we should both just call it a day and pick up again tomorrow. Thanks for sticking with it. (Satanael 08:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC))

Who's property is this?

Should [2] this be tagged as?: {{arenanet image}}

Yes. The image of that monk and those weapons are all intellectual property of ANet, even if someone else drew it. That person could not, for example, sell that image as their own work without permission from ANet. -Auron 09:09, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I think it would be more accurate to say that the image is partially owned by ArenaNet. The status of derivative works within American copyright law is pretty complicated. There was a very brief discussion a couple years ago about creating a separate tag for derivative works such as fan art which which didn't really go anywhere, it's archived at Guild Wars Wiki talk:Image use/Archive#More tag uncertainty. You could bring up the question at Guild Wars Wiki talk:Copyrighted content or Guild Wars Wiki talk:Image use. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 10:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I put {{fansite kit image}} template there for now. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 17:20, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I've tweaked the wording on the {{arenanet image}} template to make more sense for all of the stuff we use it for. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 17:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


We are not discussing inside the feedback namespace? Why? I figured it would be more efficient to discuss issues for each page on the actual page's talkpage? (Satanael 19:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC))

Because only sysops can discuss there. This is a community project. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 19:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm, stupid democratic values getting in the way of efficiency >:P On the other hand, most people won't really understand our discussion in the GWW space unless they can see it, so we should remember to link to the page when we discuss. (Satanael 19:20, 2 July 2009 (UTC))
Working on links now. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 19:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

FirebirdZ's guild image

I think this should be deleted right away since deletion tag there states that uploading a new image isn't allowed before deletion of the image. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 18:54, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but that's not how we do things. Please read our Deletion policy. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 18:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
So by the policy, it's deleted in 3 days? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 19:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes. If he uploads a new one that is not a copyvio, we will simply delete the version that is. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 19:34, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible to delete the older version without a deletion of the whole file? Just asking. It would be a good feature to have atleast :D - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 19:45, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes we can delete individual versions of an image. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 19:47, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Then why the tag says that uploading a new image isn't allowed before the page has been deleted. I don't get it. Or do i get it wrong somehow? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 19:53, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Because the tag needs to be corrected. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 19:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Green feedback section:

How is the feed back section have all that cool shit? O.o -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 19:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Edits to common.css, is my guess :) That way you can ad background pictures and other advanced stuff. - anja talk 19:11, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Define Cool shit -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 19:11, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
I bet he means the different background, the one the whole namespace has, the topic background, the article background and so on. Atleast that's what i would call cool shit in this matter. I just love the look of our new namespace :D - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 19:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, if that's what he means by cool shit, then what Anja said. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 19:30, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Where can I find that code? I want it. -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 21:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
MediaWiki:Common.css You would change User:Halogod35/monobook.css Keep in mind that any changes you make to your personal css will override the common.css. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 21:35, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
On MY computer? or will other people see it? -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 21:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
As long as you're editing your own css page, only you will see it. the css is tied to your wiki account, not your computer. (I think.) --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 21:52, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Cause I'd like when people walk onto my userspace to have a cool monobook. -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 21:54, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, it doesn't work that way, it's only for your viewing pleasure. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 23:31, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Fuck, lol I wish I could just edit the common one to mod my space xD -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 20:24, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
The problem with that is that it would then effect everyone EVERYWHERE on the wiki. Or at the very least the entire user namespace. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 20:26, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
No, not really; the real problem would be that everyone would come with "hey, change this and that for my userpage" and we would have a unnecessarily big css file then :) poke | talk 20:28, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Speaking of wiki stuff, oh Masters of Fu, where can we download the actual image that's in the background at the top? I soooooo want it. Now, if you'll accuse me [/jumps and locks into martial combat with a giant teddy - eh... I mean scary black bear /beats chest Rawwwrrr!] ~~ 20:32, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

If you are using firefox, go to tools/page info and then click on media. It will show you all the images that make up the page you are viewing and give you the option to save them. If you aren't using firefox, [3] is the actual link. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 20:37, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
O.O [/yoink!] ^_^ Thank you. ~~ 20:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Coding question

This is probably one of the simplest questions you will ever have to answer. I know that you are able to get the "show" text on the side of your page and for some of your templates it also shows your "show" text and when you hit the button it collapses into the shown text. I really wanna do that for my character page, is there anyway you can tell me what the code is for that specific function?

I would really appreciate it! I've been up almost 3 hours now trying to figure it out.

Regards, --Dark Savior 11:07, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

This is the manual of that feature :) Some examples are also available here. Hope that helps. poke | talk 12:39, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
That doesn't seem to work with archives though. How would I do that? -- My Talk Lacky 21:42, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
archives? What archives? poke | talk 21:43, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
I tried the collapsible thing with my archive box, but it didn't work. -- My Talk Lacky 21:47, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
You would have to create your own archive box template with it built in. Like I have on mine (though mine isn't a template, it's part of my talk header. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 21:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Ahh, alright. -- My Talk Lacky 21:51, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Poke, I've been looking for this. Magic User Magic Icon.jpg Talk 18:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm curious

You're on the wiki almost 24/7, do you have a life? O.o -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 05:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

A very little one. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 03:56, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
What do you do other than wiki? o.O -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 05:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm a self employed computer tech/instructor/consultant. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 06:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
And you're how old? -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 17:52, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I just celebrated my 46th birthday. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 20:12, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Holy shit, you're about my mother's age. I had no idea.-- User Vanguard VanguardLogo.pnganguard 20:14, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:O I want a life.. Can you tell where to download one? Magic User Magic Icon.jpg Talk 20:16, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, how many places are you admin? -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 22:39, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
LOL! I thought the interview was over! Short answer, 2, here and GWGuru. Though I have some non Guild Wars site responsibilities as well. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 22:41, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I see, so are you proud of your job?
And by the way, magic, you can download it <rickroll removed>. -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 22:44, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I like to think I'm good at it. If that is being proud, then I suppose the answer is yes. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 22:51, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Did you have an all time favorite skill in guildwars that got nerfed and actually caused you to quit that skill? -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 22:54, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
No. As I've stated repeatedly, skill changes have had very little effect on me over the 3 years I've been playing Guild Wars. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 22:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
If you could create one skill that was perfectly balanced and all, what would it be? -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 23:01, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Is there a purpose to all of this? Or are you just intentionally trying to annoy me? You are doing a good job of it. Please just stop, I have no further answers for you. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 23:16, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
There is a purpose. But I'll stfu now. -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 23:20, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, I sincerely hope you aren't planning to "publish" this interview. That will seriously annoy me. And you really shouldn't do shit like that without some indication of your purpose before hand. Had I had prior notice, my answers would have all been "no comment". -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 23:27, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
so Wyn... what's your favorite movie? ^^ --Cursed Angel Q.Q 23:44, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
/me slaps CA with a dead fish.... -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 23:46, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Due to request, it won't be published. Sorry for annoyance. -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 23:47, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I like Wyn. Wyn completes me, compliments me. Wyn is the other side of the coin, my glorious blue antithesis!
With no Wyn, what would my existence be reduced to? It's a sad world, indeed, when red Raines lie about, discarded - discarded for discord, her purple harmonies cast glaringly red against the void that hath moved in to fill the space where Wyn should be.
I like Wyn. Wyn completes me, compliments me. I love my Wyn like a woman. User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 18:38, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I love my Wyn like a woman. That.. sounds awkward. Especially since she is a woman. Btw.. since I'm commentnig here and I don't feel like making a new section.. Hi Wyn. Magic User Magic Icon.jpg Talk 01:10, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

GOD hosting?

Hey Wyn, since this is my first Dragon Festival and based on what I read on the DF2009 page in order to get any presents (other than the mask) players in a district have to deliver more Celestial Charges than the grasps destroy. My question is is GOD hosting a district like they did during Canthan New Year? --Kakarot Talk 13:54, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Just go to any random district; there should be enough players that make your district win.. poke | talk 14:41, 5 July 2009 (UTC)


You said yourself you don't like it. So why are you making more of it? Edit: I know you're frustrated by various stuff, but I'm begging you, please don't let that start a cycle of one frustration exacerbating another. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 04:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I refer you to here. -- My Talk Lacky 22:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Speaking of which, what's so horrible about me being Vocal? --ilrUser ilr deprav.png 04:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Nothing, if it's ON TOPIC. If you wish to discuss what is and isn't a suggestion, start a new topic for it. However, bitching about it every time something is tagged as a suggestion and running the topic into the ditch is not productive. The suggestion tagging on Linsey's page is going to continue as is until the new namespace is opened up, and will continue afterwards (with slightly different rules). Linsey has asked that the topic hijacking stop, and asked me to put in place the additions to her suggestion notice because she just doesn't have time atm do deal with it. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 04:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
But it's fine for you to be Vocal and Off-topic at the same time... IoW: Auron moved the topic to my page to kill the drama. And it would have worked, But then you used that section to tell me to STFU. I don't mind S'ing TFU either if it's for Linsey's health. ...just pointing out that we're all getting mixed signals here and you can't expect me to know when toes are being stepped on since I'm not privy to every Dev's whims like you are. --ilrUser ilr deprav.png 05:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Um, it was Erasculio that moved the section if I have read the history correct, and I told you both to stop on Linsey's page. I did it on Linsey's page, because the move of the topic actually ec'd my post which was also pointing out the new additions to the notice on the top of Linsey's page. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 05:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Rly?, I was not aware of that either...Thanks --ilrUser ilr deprav.png 17:31, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Hai, here's another Question. Regarding feedback where other people add suggestions to a section when the original post had no suggestions in it... Aren't you just condoning Griefing? Couldn't just the post that has the suggestions be the one that's moved to THAT user's page instead of removing the entire section for Suggestions at that point? And I don't mean you'd have to move it, you could just tag the section and wait for someone else to move the 1 comment that contains the suggestion I mean. Wouldn't that be more fair? --ilrUser ilr deprav.png 20:24, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Thing is, you can't just "remove" a comment from a topic. A) It's not allowed by policy, and B) this is a wiki, it will forever live in history. As soon as someone takes any topic down the path of being a suggestion, it's best to keep the topic together for continuity. As it is, when a topic gets tagged as a suggestion, it's NOT me that is suppose to move it, it's suppose to be the OP. I have out of courtesy been moving them, but at this point, I'm just deleting them because no one is getting the hint. The fact that other people taint topics is not something I can control, but I'll tell you, peer pressure works wonders... posting notes on their talk pages saying STOP IT!! or some such might make some people think about what they are posting more. The simple fact is... any topic that specifies changes to how the game works, are suggestions, and no one is getting the fact that Linsey and the rest of the Anet team CANNOT comment on anything that is a suggestion, so they need to just stop posting them on her page. Everyone else needs to stop discussing every topic that is posted on her page, because 90% of the time that discussion leads to suggestions. If you wish to discuss someone's topic on Linsey's page message them on their talk page, you guys can discuss and suggest to yourselves all you want and it won't pollute the topics on Linsey's page, and it won't be tagged for deletion and it will keep Linsey's page from becoming this leviathan that ends up breaking browsers. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 20:33, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
"you can't just "remove" a comment from a topic." Wait a minute, back up... Tanetris did exactly that to my objection here, IE: isolated it from the section and he's an Op. AND YOU HELPED HIM, Isn't that a double standard?... Hijacking is Hijacking. If I started adding suggestions to random topics on Lin's page you wouldn't miss a beat in calling it Hijacking as usual and then someone would move that stuff to my page as well. I think I'd have the right to be really angry right now, but I'm going to be patient instead and keep trying to reach a mutually beneficial resolution instead. --ilrUser ilr deprav.png 21:23, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Shift bar

I fixed it. All by myself too. Also, the bar is now in the right direction. :-P --TalkAntioch 08:32, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Hero Armor Chart

I was looking around and fount you looking for an EOTN hero template to mach the one made by Rycharde it seams that Rycharde dose not have the time to do this so iv done it for you EOTN Hero Template. For those reading this and wanting the Nightfall Template Nightfall Heros Template Atlantis29 14:57, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Wiki Links

Hey Wyn. Is it possible to change the color or a link (kind of like who you'd chance the; visited; hover; & active in CSS for an html document) on this wiki? I've like to change the color of mine on my user space. Thanks in advance. Magic User Magic Icon.jpg Talk 18:25, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

No, the only chance to do this is as you did in your signature by putting a separate tag to change the color inside of the link text. poke | talk 18:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Mks. Thanks Poke. Magic User Magic Icon.jpg Talk 04:23, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Exclamation point

Hey, I noticed as soon as I was given wiki god mode that some of the entries on my watchlist got a small red exclamation point (!) next to them. Why? What are those for? (Satanael 19:28, 7 July 2009 (UTC))

it's to show that the edit hasn't been "patrolled", an admin hasn't checked if the edit isn't vandalism basically.(iirc) ~ PheNaxKian User PheNaxKian sig.jpg 19:30, 7 July 2009
In other words, nothing you need to worry about. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 21:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I knew it was nothing I needed to worry about (it was obvioulsy a sysop thing), I was just curious because I couldn't make head nor tails of why it was there. Anyway, thanks for the explanation, that makes sense. (Satanael 21:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC))
It means you've been spotted! Quick, break line of sight and hide in the nearest locker! --TalkAntioch 04:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


I'm not sure how to put this.. but I found something on the internet through a search that links to your talk page that has private info on it reguarding to me.. so I was wondering if I could email you the page so you can tell me what it is and how to remove my info from it.. :S Magic User Magic Icon.jpg Talk 04:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

You can email me the link sure, I can't promise I will have the ability to remove it. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 04:51, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Actually nvm.. I don't think its you. It's through the wiki. You can look up anyone's account information.. That needs to be fixed. If I stumbled onto it chances are others can too. :S [Btw, I don't have your email.. That's why I posted.] Magic User Magic Icon.jpg Talk 04:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
I'd still like to know what the page means.. I tried to reproduce the same effect with a different search and I think I did.. So I'ma try something and if it works then we'll know it needs to be fixed through the wiki.. if it can be .. :S [Edit: Not freaking out btw.. just hyper atm. :S If my production worked.. your MSN Msgr should have an invite from me.. which then shows you that I obtained your email through the wiki and thus proves my point that it needs a fix. :S]Magic User Magic Icon.jpg Talk 05:07, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
You can use Special:Emailuser/Wynthyst if you want to send an email to Wyn, or I'd be glad to help you out as well (Special:Emailuser/Aiiane). Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 05:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
[Problems Fixed. Sorry for all the posts. :S] Thanks again Magic User Magic Icon.jpg Talk 05:39, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Let's see... just taking a wild guess, you discovered the "credits" function? :) And no worries, we don't mind helping resolve confusion. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 06:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Credits function? O.o Magic User Magic Icon.jpg Talk 19:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


lol what did you do to my page? i cant find anything different?Sloh Em Oshun 06:40, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I moved all your character pages to your userspace, and corrected all the links to them. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 06:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Ah ok, thanks for that, i'm just trying to get all my other characters on here too.. ill try and keep it correct :) Sloh Em Oshun 06:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Keeping an eye on me are ya?  :P lol thanks, im just adding minor details to all of the characters pages as i go along.. thx thoSloh Em Oshun 07:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

No, I'm keeping an eye on the Recent changes log and your plethora of mini edits are really annoying. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 07:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Auch :) --Arduinna talk 07:39, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Ah, i see that now, srry about that, will do with the See Preview tip.Sloh Em Oshun 07:40, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Guild:Fight Until Eternity

An IP all but removed all information from this page but I see you were the author... I reverted but can you check the page out? MrPaladin talk 17:34, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Check the deletion log!

There are 2 files that actually didn't delete. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 10:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Why the sandbox is all about Nemis troy then? By the way, this image was first uploaded under Nemis troy username and i moved it under Aged's username. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 10:18, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
But if it's wrong that Aged upload it under Nemis troy, then i understand. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 10:22, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
But what do we do on a situation where someone decides to create an account like CtPound, when there is an account already named Ctpound already and there would be images under name of CtPound already. What do we do then? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:30, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
THIS is why i move some images. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:31, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Which account is active? for one thing, the capitalization doesn't matter in file names. For the category sort, use the account that is active. I know that one of CT's pages is simply redirected to the other. This isn't rocket science, it doesn't need to be precise. The whole purpose of this project is to make the categorical index usable. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 14:33, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Ctpound one is active. There's Ct Pound too, but it redirects to the first one. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:38, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
If image names doesn't matter, why we have to use usernames in them in the first place? O.o - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Read what I said... "the capitalization doesn't matter in file names". That has nothing to do with whether we have the user names in them. The policy was designed to be able to identify where a file is being used and who it belongs to, by it's name, thus the format User <username> <imagename>.<extension>. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 14:44, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
For CT's images, you would tag them as {{user image|Ctpound}}-- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 14:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
As i have. I know the naming formation of user images. But if we use usernames in them, then why the "wrong" ones are accepted. Many images that have the "wrong" one are images for users that don't even exist. And if deleting the redirects is so much work, i'll volunteer to do it myself. But of course no one will accept such thing. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 14:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
And once someone creates this "wrong" user, then what do we do? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:02, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
You can't create a user account that begins with a lower case letter. The wiki doesn't allow it. I don't really get what you mean by "wrong" ones. If someone sees an image named File:User wynthyst dervish.jpg they should know it's mine, and it will appear in my list of images. If the username in the file isn't recognizable as the user, then yes, it needs to be corrected, say if it's misspelled, etc. The chances that someone creates and uses a username that is exactly like another active user except has a capitalization difference in the name is slim, and would most likely trigger a request to change the name for clarification purposes anyway. As for the amount of 'work' we create with this project for the sysops, well, we are dealing with 15,000+ user images.... if we have to move even 1/5 of them that's 3000+ unnecessary redirect deletions. If you wish to volunteer to do the deletions, then submit an RfA and become a sysop, since you have to have sysop rights to delete. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 15:12, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I just did the RfA and i think i did it all by the terms. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 16:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey Wyn

Hey Wyn how do I change my wiki pages color? Like you've changed yours to pink?The Savior 10:50, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm using a template that is a series of nested tables, and each level is a different color. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 11:15, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


When I move an image from an incorrect file name to a correct file name, should I leave a message on the users talk page to let them know?—User Rein sig.pngRein 17:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

It's generally considered a good idea, yes - that way if they were already using the image in a page/sig, they can update it to the proper link. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 17:20, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks.—User Rein sig.pngRein 17:26, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
And remember to fix the links after you move an image. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 17:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Since we are fixing the links as we go, it's not that big a deal to leave them a message, especially if this is OLD stuff. If this is a new user who is misnaming stuff, then yes, you should leave them a message so they will start naming their images properly. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 20:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Trolling in new dev update talkpage.

I saw you did this. I don't actually care if you're gonna do this, but if i remember talk page guidelines correctly, that trolling got replies already, so i think it should be brought back. I mean as <trolling removed> following the replies it got. Do as you see fit. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 17:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

No, it's not coming back, the replies were simply pointing out it was trolling.-- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 17:50, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
And what comes to your reply on my talk page, i guess you don't want me to move all those images again where i left some dashes XD - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 17:54, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
No, just continue from where you left off. :D -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 18:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Aged does it again...

See this. You're sure he uploads them only for himself? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 20:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

He could just be helping Troy set up some images. Be patient. --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 00:48, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Maybe, but last time when i moved an image like this under Aiden The Aged, i tried to moved it back later, but Wyn was against it. She said that these belong to Aiden The Aged. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 11:29, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Eh, again, it all depends on who he's uploading the images for. Check the "what links here" section of the image; if a "Nemis Troy" image come up in Aidens userspace only, then move it. --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 15:13, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Since it doesn't link anywhere by now, i renamed it by the uploader. And Traveler, now that i look my last post, i don't know what the hell i meant :D - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 16:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Wyn I need help.

Wyn, Im not very good at templates so I built the page from scratch, if you look at my page you will see that the userbox chart on the left is stand alone, I want to make one o fthose charts that tell about my charecter to the left of it, but when i start building the box, show preview shows me it below userboxes! Wyn how do I do what I want to do?The Savior 11:20, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Try doing this: at the start of your userbox space, before the '{| style=" ...' part, type this:
{| width="100%" style="background:transparent;"
<--place userbox part here
<--place next thing you want here
The problem is that when you start making the new box, the way your coding it is making the page want to place the box below what is on the page, not next to it. You have to code the page to tell it to place it next to the userboxes.--Neithan DiniemUser Talk:Neithan Diniem 13:43, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Thnx to whoeevr fixed my page and thank your Neithan.The Savior 11:16, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok question 2 one no one can fix for me. How do I upload a picture of my Charecter? I don't have a heavy laden paint program. Just paints.The Savior 11:22, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

See Help:Images -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 11:25, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Thnx Wyn you know quite a lot about the wiki!The Savior 11:27, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, I got tired of answering that question, so I created the help page instead :D -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 11:40, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Archive question

Im wondering if I can place an expandable section into my current talk archive, or if I can place a discussion there in a hidden section. I will not edit the discussion in any way, its for hiding that one discussion in particular, which if you check my new blog, you may see why. I know that I don't exactly go into my archive often, but its something Id really appreciate.--Neithan DiniemUser Talk:Neithan Diniem 14:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

The "expandable/collapsible" is a table class. You would simply put your text inside the table so:
{| class="expandable" style=".......
| Text here
I hope that helps. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 16:27, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
actually I was wondering if I was allowed to do that, not how. Guess your reply there means yes.--Neithan DiniemUser Talk:Neithan Diniem 18:11, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Your EOTN Mission and Dungeon Template

This template do you have one or know of one that is for one Char only as i dont need it for 10 Proffs also in this style with the full mission / dungeon name in vertical format thanks in advance Atlantis29 16:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't have one in vertical, you could look through Category:User templates and see if there is one there. I don't have time to do one today, but if you can't find one, and would like me to modify mine for use with one character in vertical format, I should be able to do it tomorrow. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 16:51, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Iv already looks in the Templates and could not find one wich is why i came to you yours was the best looking. Tomorrow will be fine i have your chat on watch you just reply when its done Atlantis29 17:48, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Category Cleanup

Are all uploaded images after a certain date automatically tagged with the |User suffix? If so, what is this date? Knowing so will save me a bit of time with filtering and such. Thanks in advance. ~RyuuUser Ryuu Desu Sig.png[ Talk|Contributions ] 11:56, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

No, you can never say that, because you will never know if people will actually add the username or not. Just start here and you can be sure that those tags have a missing user name in it. poke | talk 14:22, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
I was checking all of them anyway, I just noticed a few users with all uploads after around the 9th seemed to have the tag, but I figured it was better to be safe. ~RyuuUser Ryuu Desu Sig.png[ Talk|Contributions ] 14:57, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Also, thanks for the link. ~_~ That probably was much more efficient than my method. Oh well. ~RyuuUser Ryuu Desu Sig.png[ Talk|Contributions ] 14:58, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
I've used that since i started to help this project. By the way, what would be the best way to check for user images that miss {{user image}}? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Please focus on fixing the existing user images first. poke | talk 15:59, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Stay in your pants poke! :D I just asked so i could move on in this project straight away when all images have been fixed that got the template :P - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 16:34, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe I misunderstood.

So in the feedback namespace it prompts me to create something I translate as "feedback account",( the [I agree] button). I create that account just to see that I am restricted to edit pages in the feedback namespace. why? Did I misunderstood it and have to create a suggestion subpage in my user namespace and copy the template there? It's a bit confusing. --Boro 10px‎ 07:24, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

The feedback namespace is not open for submissions yet. We are still working out the mechanics. Once it's finalized, everyone will be able to create their user suggestion pages. Until then, it's locked to only edits by sysops. We are discussing the mechanics at Guild_Wars_Wiki_talk:Feedback_organization -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 07:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Good Luck

With your RFA, not that you'll need it I don't think. -- My Talk Lacky 09:21, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Your elite skills template

The warrior component wasn't red before, was it? Referencing this. I thought it was because someone changed the warrior color template, but when I changed it back (that template), it still doesn't work the way I thought it did before (with the warrior emblem on a lighter background). Maybe I'm just confused... Thanks for any clarification you could provide. --Freedom Bound 14:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, evidently it just takes awhile to change back. --Freedom Bound 14:55, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I got a little problem here.

I can't change the images on this user. I moved images over a week ago,renaming the images as Bcstingg, being as bcstingg, but i didn't tag the redirects for deletion. Now someone has deleted all the redirects, so all the images are red links on the userpage. And i couldn't fix the links because though the image links are there on that page, it isn't there in the code. I'm pretty helpless. And if someone can change the image links, remember to remove the deletion tags on those. Someone has tagged those being unused. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 19:40, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

The images are called from the template on User:Bcstingg/Character. Did you only change the capitalization on the user name? -Freedom Bound 19:45, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I fixed it. And removed the deletion tags. --Freedom Bound 19:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
How did you do it? And yes i went to that template page for a 100 times. What did i miss? You had to recreate the templates? I'd like to know, so i can fix things like these next time. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 19:56, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
You can see what I did by looking at the history of the page I linked above. Basically, the template called a universal image name that started with the user's name, followed by the character's name. The template called for a lower case user name, when you changed it to uppercase, it couldn't find the image there. I changed it to look for the image with an uppercase user name. --Freedom Bound 20:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
That's a pretty nice feature. Now i know how to deal with something like this next time. Thanks ^^ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 20:16, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I got a new issue on the same user. Go here, click on any image and look what links there... simply nothing. WTF?! - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 22:08, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Try it again. :) It just takes the server a bit to catch up, especially with images. --Freedom Bound 22:10, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
All worked after i fixed nav with uppercase letter :P - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 22:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I was about to overline my comment, but you got here first :D - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 22:21, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


Alright, thank you for moving it and sorry for the hassle. (I'm New)*addendum*...brand new --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Poha (talk).

Absolutely not a problem Poha, everyone makes those mistakes when they start. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me, any Helper, check out our Help center or post a question on our Help:Ask a wiki question page. Happy Wiki-ing! -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 02:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
LoL Wyn, great minds think alike. User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png DrogoBoffin 02:20, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Lol fail. -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 02:25, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
And just what "fail" are you referring to Halogod35? or are you simply trolling? -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 02:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
No no no, I come in peace O.o And fail I'm referring to is the fact there's a welcome message on his page that shows for help and then you put a welcome message on this page that's basically the same thing as the one on his page. -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 03:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
And BtW mine was First User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png DrogoBoffin 03:22, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Well, if you look at the time frame, I posted to Poha about the move of his image on his page, he replied here, and while I was replying to his reply here, Drogo was posting on his page, so it was all happening pretty much simultaneously rather than being a fail on anyone's part. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 03:22, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
/me slaps Drogo with a dead fish for ecing her............ -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 03:24, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
You got a point, and btw.. why dead fish? -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 03:33, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
A live one just wouldnt be up to "scale". Ha, get it! fish, scale--....I'm going to hide now. --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 03:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
In it's death throes, the fish thrashes and bashes, the flesh becomes bruised. In the absence of cool water, the fish heats up rapidly, as it's cooling system over loads. The bacteria in the fishes' flesh, gills, gullet and stomach, multiply rapidly. Out of the cool water, the warm temperatures allow them to multiply at a fantastic rate. I cannot remember my source, but I read somewhere that fish just out of the water, left in the sun, decays at a rate some 5 times faster, than a land animal in similar circumstances. Leaving fish in a fish bin for some hours without cooling is a cardinal sin. As you add more fish to the bin, the accumulative effect of the heat build up increases, as each fish is added. The fish at the bottom, literally begin to cook. If you have no ice, at least cover the spiked fish with a damp sack or towel, the thicker the better. As the sun heats up the cloth, the water in the cloth begins to evaporate, and you have set-up a fairly efficient heat exchange unit. But this only works if the wet sack covered bin is in the sun. Covering the bin and then placing it in the shade, builds a pretty efficient oven. The wet sack actually holds the heat built up in the bin! --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User: (talk).
Um? Not what said...... -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 04:08, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I would try again but I'm too tired and not funny. Btw thanks Drogo. -- 04:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


What the wiki's policy about posting Facebook and Myspace links in userpages? I don't want to break a rule here.--Neithan DiniemUser Talk:Neithan Diniem 02:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Feel free to post whatever links in your own space you wish as long as they aren't links to RMT sites, or other things that would violate the EULA, or RoC. In your userspace you can pretty much post whatever you wish, as long as it's not a violation of NPA, or advertising spam. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 03:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


i heard you are bad at dervish Antelope 11:19, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Do us all a favour

When this blows over, take a break from the wiki. Come back a more cheerful carebear kthx. Pika Fan 17:54, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Do the rest of us a favor Pika and don't be antagonistic. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 17:56, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I am not. It's pretty obvious she needs a breather, and I absolutely hate to see someone capable lose their position. Pika Fan 17:59, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Alright, I misread your tone then. No worries. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 18:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Protected talkpage.

I can't edit this to change the image link to File:User Eloc Jcg cookie.jpg. Would you do this for me? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 23:38, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Er... when an image has lots of links to it, as that one does, do you really have to go and change all of them? Just keep the redirect - it doesn't hurt, and it's better than needlessly pinging watchlists (or indeed emails). Besides, aren't various people saying that you shouldn't be changing Eloc's images anyway? --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 23:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Me and Wyn disagree with that. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 23:44, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I get that, I was just expecting you to try and work out a solution so you wouldn't have to disagree anymore, since it's evident those disagreements are still held by both parties. I'm also noticing that you're carrying on regardless. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 23:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
No one has particularly said to me that i should stop. I just don't get it why is it allowed to name images by Eloc, when the user redirects to Eloc Jcg, so practically there is no Eloc. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 00:01, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
This just makes me really think that do we need usernames in imagenames at all. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 00:08, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I think the fact that it's contested by a number of people (who seemingly have good reasons for that contention) should be indication enough that you should pause, at least until it's sorted out. Perhaps doing it all with Drogo's images isn't the best idea at the moment. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 00:28, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Don't you tell me Drogo actually has an account named as Drogo -.- - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 00:32, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
User:Drogo redirects to User:DrogoBoffin, yes. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 00:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
There's actually three: Drogo, DrogoBoffin, and Drogo Boffin. --Freedom Bound 00:34, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
And only one image that needed to be dealt with. Give it a rest you guys. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 00:35, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Sorry. Just thought it was funny. Don't really understand why people feel the need to have multiple user names. --Freedom Bound 00:38, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
What if i would create account J, O, P, E, 1 and 2 and whenever i upload an image i stamp whichever comes to mind. Would that be fun? No. I think each user who has multiple account that are redirects to one, should choose one of those and stick with it when naming images. DrogoBoffin got 3? WTF?! And Freedom Bound, they just want to make others life more harder :D - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 00:43, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
If you were wynthyst, would you want someone coming onto the wiki as wyn? Or be DrogoBoffin and have a new user Drogo? --JonTheMon 00:49, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
That's why I've registered Wyn, but ALL my images are uploaded under Wynthyst. But can we take this discussion off my userpage? Or better yet, just drop it all together? -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 00:51, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I think it isn't possible for long time to drop all together. Someone's gonna bring this up again at some point, that's for sure :/ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 00:58, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for deleting all the ICR pages. I meant to do it, but I guess I kinda forgot. I know it's not that difficult to do, but thanks in any case. (Satanael 03:22, 16 July 2009 (UTC))

Dont feel bad

I did it too. ~Shard User Shard Sig Icon.png 22:46, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

ROFL! Thanks Shard, I needed to feel like less of an idiot about that :P -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 22:47, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Damn User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png DrogoBoffin 07:04, 17 July 2009 (UTC)


LOL User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png DrogoBoffin 06:59, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

If you are gonna correct him, you should *cough* try to do it correctly... *cough* :P -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 07:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
And @ LOL User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png DrogoBoffin 07:02, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I managed to copy your text somehow when you ec'd me instead of my own. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 07:03, 17 July 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for the editing help.

I'm pretty new to this stuff. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Shadowblade Morik (talk).

It's fine. We all make the same mistakes when we start. :D -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 06:21, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Dear Wynthyst,I must write thanks word at here,because you really give me very very usefull help ,even my english is so poor。but these several thanks words I can write by myself ,no need translate tool, haha 。finally ,thanks thanks!!!User Xpycy sig Ico.GIF xpycy14:19:39(UTC)
You are welcome. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 14:30, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
hi Wynthyst,I would like to know that whether the issue can be resolved. this case for me, have a little hope ?User Xpycy sig Ico.GIF xpycy15:59:07 (UTC)
I really can't say, it's going to be up to Support. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 00:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
oh, I see ,thanks. I wait ,look like Holiday this pass.User Xpycy sig Ico.GIF xpycy# 00:25:21 (UTC)
Hi Wyn,
sorry Bother you, Can I ask a question?
I very much would like to know : Whether , At present such a case ,my question has been got support at here ? or need wait Gaile come back
ps: I had received nc's letter no any detail result ,but still like last those letters -- User Xpycy sig Ico.GIF Xpycy 10:24, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Please just wait for Gaile. I am not an employee of NCSoft, just another player like you. I know support can be frustrating, but you really have no alternative but to wait. I do feel for you, and wish there were something I could do to help, but it's really up to support to deal with. Gaile is a nice lady, who will look at your tickets and do what she can, but it takes some time. She doesn't work on the weekends normally, so yesterday would have been the first opportunity she would have had to look into the issue. Sorry if I'm using words that are too big. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 11:21, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
In fact, I am feel very sorry ,ask too much, at same time I don't know here consuetude 。maybe my question too much, take some trouble to you 。 -- xpycy Xpycy 11:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
No, it's just there is nothing we can do for you regarding your account. That's all up to Gaile and the support team. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 13:00, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


-_- Log your self in nao! Frozenwind 00:55, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


What U GOT!!!? 05:29, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

What do I have for what? --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 05:51, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I dunno, anything really. 05:52, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
This guy has been hitting a lot of the more frequent pages, check Shard's and Auron's. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 05:53, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
That's nice.. he's trying to get to know people in the community... what harm is that? --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 05:54, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
No, check RC. He's following Auron around, so to speak, and vandalizing lots of his (Auron's) edits. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 05:55, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
No, Auron is reverting HIS edits, he's just putting them back. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 05:57, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh, why is Auron doing that? Also, how is this IP guy still getting back in, after two blocks? -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 05:58, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Wait, clarification: So Auron is undoing what IP guy did to Auron's edits? -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 05:59, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
He's on a dynamic IP, blocks are meaningless when you can simply reset your IP. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 06:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I also heard that you can break your internet connection and repair it to change your IP, is that true? -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 06:02, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Depending on your connection yes, or you can simply reset your IP address. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 06:03, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm trying to start up important trades with serious users of this site. Also, I am discussing the pros and cons of GW2 with a buddy. Auron started following me around because he doens't like my edits. Also, Wyng is correct; it's not "break"ing a connection to reset an IP (not sure what you mean exactly). 06:04, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I saw your conversation about GW2, and what I mean by breaking a connection is unplugging the phone wire, then re plugging and repairing connection. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 06:06, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

There's no unplugging of wires involved. 06:07, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, you are going about it all the wrong way if you are trying to get to know people in the community. You should have honored the original block. Now you are rather screwed I'm afraid. Continuing to change your IP and evade the blocks is going to do nothing but piss Auron off. I would suggest you stop. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 06:07, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I hear Auron pissed is something to behold. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 06:08, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
It should be pretty obvious that I'm a troll and that I don't really care. I'll probably give up when I get tired (which will be soon) or when someone gets a rangeblock up (if anyone even has the ability to that here). Thanks for the input though, you're been really nice. 06:11, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
We all know you are a troll, and a rangeblock has been considered, and discarded as an idea for various reasons. I assume if we all stop talking to you, you will get bored and go away, so... I hope you find your fun elsewhere soon :P Have fun making Auron chase your tail around. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 06:13, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Funnily enough, I heard the same thing about you, Wyn =P (corresponding to what I said about Auron being pissed) -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 06:15, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I think the wiki can get to everyone at times. :P (says the person guilty of causing a minor instance of drama)-- Shewmake 06:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I honestly didn't even notice you were an admin until just now. You're half right - I'm not getting bored as you put it, but I am going away since it's bed time. And I didn't even have to expose any of my sleeper socks! Well, have a good night. If you're talking to Auron offwiki then tell him I say sorry and send the biggest embarrassed emoticon on whatever chat client you're using. :o) 06:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, I was gonna say that I wasn't going to make a big mess of edits since you were such a sport, but then you stab me in the back and have Auron rangeblock after all! :(:(:(:(
LOL I don't make Auron do ANYTHING on this wiki :P He does it all by himself. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 06:29, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Haha, okay. I'm out. Fucking around on a proxy is slow as shit. If I ever see any of your toons in-game then I'll throw you some a conset or something. 06:31, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Sorry ^_^'

Sorry about that. It's been awhile since I've wiki edited, and I'm all over the place. Most of my stuff's been on the unofficial wiki. I'll update here in due time. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Lord Twitchiopolis (talk).

This new image...

Can you see this image? I can't and that's why i marked it, not to mention that it's half a meg being 64x64 O.o - J.P.ContributionsTalk 22:27, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Give her time. She is working on it. I cannot see it either, no matter what I've tried. Be Patient. User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png DrogoBoffin 22:29, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I see it fine. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 22:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
I can see it too. And its only 14 KB? last I checked that isn't half a meg.--Neithan DiniemUser Talk:Neithan Diniem 23:13, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
We can all see it now and it is no longer 500kb. Your late. User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png DrogoBoffin 23:15, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Ack, thats what normally happens...--Neithan DiniemUser Talk:Neithan Diniem 01:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


Nobody stops by to say it anymore. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 08:36, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi :D -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 08:48, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I get lonely. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 08:52, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm used to it (being lonely that is). -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 08:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
You don't have a significant other? That's what helped kick my loneliness. She's asleep now, or I wouldn't be lonely. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 08:57, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
No, I used to have dogs, but I had to get rid of them when I moved. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 08:58, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I feel your pain, my first dog was a German Shepherd named Duke, and I was too young to understand why I had to leave my friend behind when our house got reposessed. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 09:01, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I only managed to salvage pictures of one of them, I had a hard drive crash and burn with all my others. Sam They were border collie/cattle dog mixes. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 09:04, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Uncool. What time zone are you in? Its fairly terrible hours here. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 09:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Central US, it's 4:16 am atm -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 09:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Ditto. I wish I had a job, tired of being broke. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 09:18, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
To explain my chain of thought: " I am up late, I should be asleep. If I had a job I would be waking up soon." -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 09:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm self employed.. I feel your pain. But I have a roof over my head, food on the table, and high speed internetz, so it's not as bad as it could be. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 09:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Lol you've got to be the first person I have ever seen compare high speed internet to food and shelter, that made me smile. Its the boredom and guilt of not working that gets to me. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 09:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, I'm self employed as a computer tech/consultant, so a portion of my income relies on my internet. It is also the only thing that keeps me from dying of boredom between jobs. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 09:41, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Off subject, but how do you like that job? What is the worst workweek you have ever had to deal with? It seems like you would need to put in a substantial amount of hours. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 09:43, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

You should know, I was playing with the random page button, and for some reason, none of the images on this page display. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 09:51, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I make $20-30/hr generally, so when there is work, it's ok, unfortunately I'm at the whims of my clients, if they don't need me, they don't need me. It's better during the school year, as I teach Adult Enrichment courses for Community Education, which is a fairly reliable source of income (has been for 10 years at least). I can work as little as zero hours a week, or as many as 100+ it all depends on who needs me for what. The Zero hour weeks are sometimes the worst. It can be hard when I'm teaching and get large client projects at the same time, since I have to have time to do my class prep, as well as take care of my clients, but most of them have been with me for years now, so they are generally pretty understanding. Unless it's an emergency (dead computer, or infected computer) they are mostly willing to work around my teaching schedule since they know that is a staple for me.
No images display because there are no images there... see all the red links? /facepalm -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 09:58, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I see. The worst workweek I have ever had to experience was 116 hours on a farm. If anyone ever asks you to do farm work, for the love of everything sacred, tell them no. A swift and resounding no. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 10:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I was caretaker of a 60 acre horse ranch in Kansas for 8 months. But I grew up in an agricultural area, so that kind of work would not be anything new to me, of course, at my age now, it would not be something I'd care to do again. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 10:04, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, and I grew up in Texas lol. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 10:08, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry and Thanks

Yea I'm sorry I forgot the div's (note to self >never edit when tired) thanks again --madhatter 08:32, 23 July 2009 (UTC)


Long time no say hi :( - I don't think you recognize me anymore. Back to uni already and so bored, wtb new content. How's things going? Jennalee 10:41, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

WB Jennalee! Going ok, you might want to check out Guild Wars Wiki:Projects/Dye charts. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 16:06, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Dye charts take time... Unless someone tells me how to make a batch crop for photoshop I'm not going to be motivated to do them. I have 3 practical based subjects this semester :'( Besides, if I'm playing I'd like company and you're one of the few americans who I see get on at rather... odd times. WTB company when my guild's sleeping :< Jennalee 20:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
That's cool, I just thought I'd point it out to you, since it was something you had done quite a bit of previously, and now they have made it into a full blown project. And I would love to play with you. I'm assuming you still have me friended, so just message me when you see me :D. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 21:36, 23 July 2009 (UTC)


so how do peeps get those cool little icons in there signiture also how do they hyperlink one part to user and another part to user:talk i think thats awesome. Hubbard 23:11, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

You have to set your signature in "my preferences". The code would be something like [[User:Hubbard|Hubbard]] [[File:User Hubbard sig icon.png|19px]] [[User talk:Hubbard|''talk'']] and select Raw signature box. Then you upload your image that you wish. It can only be 19px x 19px. Take a look at GWW:SIGN for more details. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 23:30, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

so can u actually change ur signiture Hubbard 23:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

oh ya thxHubbard 23:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
What do you mean by change? -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 23:57, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
thx so much 4 the help Hubbard User Hubbard sig icon.png The Dervish 00:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
It won't link on your talk page, since you are ON your talk page. See mine? it just bolds it instead. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 00:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

hi wynn there are major problems in the game

i emailed tech support but thought you might know or could help too. this weekend I and alot (and i do mean alot) of other people playing lost faction points when they transferred them to their alliance. i earned over 70k and lost 20k in transferring. today everyone in aspenwood kept getting logged out in PvP battle there and when they logged back in recieved a dishonorable. This happened to me also i was logged out 6 times in 1 hour the last time i recieved dishonorable. that time 3 other people got logged out at the same time in my party and they all recieved dishonorable also and they said they were missing faction points they transferred also. My guild has 10 alliances and 3 million + faction points i went to alliance chat to talk to them and the same thing was happening to alot of them also. is there anything you can do? i had a problem with a skill missing awhile back and emailed game support and it took almost 2 months to hear back. any help or suggestions at all would be greatly appreciated. I told some of them to email game support i don't know if they did i know everyone in my guild has. thanks--User Jenniffercohen sig.pngJenn 02:40, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Please note that Wyn is a player just like you and is not an Anet employee. Could you please explain how you get that your losing faction? I'm thinking that you guys are expecting double for donating faction, you will only earn double points in AB. Also how are you donating your faction? Are you just adding 5,000 to your alliance or are you buying Jade/Amber? User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png Drogo Boffin 02:50, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Because when they are transferred like i said above they vanish from my points but do not show up in my alliance, guild or my title track as being transferred. I know double points don't transfer that has nothing to do with anything I stated. And yes several people today are losing connection with the game server and then getting dishonorable when logging back in and I am not the only one this is happening to including missing points. I wrote wynn and the others that have helped me in the past in the hopes they might have an idea as to what is going on or what we need to do and yes i went to the help page and it was no help i and several others emailed support but like i said last time i did that it took almost 2 months before i even heard back and then they didn't have an answer.--User Jenniffercohen sig.pngJenn 03:10, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
My statement about the double faction only applying to AB was to make sure you understood this, these things can be misunderstood. Also about losing your connection, that is happening to many thousands of people. Anets response to that is that it has nothing to do with their servers and it is either your ISP or something between your ISP and GW servers. As for the dishonorable status, this goes right along with the connection problems because for some reason it treats the disconnect as you leaving. Losing the Faction I have no idea what could cause that. You should post that here and it will bring it to Anets attention on here too. It may take support time to get back to you because they are at times flooded with people submitting tickets. I would like to check the faction transfer thing out for myself. I will be in game getting faction and donating it to see if this happens to me. User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png Drogo Boffin 03:18, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Your best shot @ a fix is sending a report to support, or posting on Gaile Gray's page --adrin User Adrin mysig.jpg 03:32, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Little question

Can you move the guild The Imperial Valour Guard to active status? I tried and I tried, but I havent suceeded yet =| |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light User-Cyan Light sig.jpgLive!| 13:53, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't find it in historical? Link me to what you want moved.... -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 14:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
I was pointing to this: Guild:The Imperial Valour Guards (historical) -- |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light User-Cyan Light sig.jpgLive!| 14:45, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Done. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 14:50, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks ^^ |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light User-Cyan Light sig.jpgLive!| 14:51, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

HappyBirdhday, Wyn!

If we were at a restaurant, I'd have them sing for you in Thai and bring us free dessert, but since this is a wiki and NOT a restaurant, you'll have to settle for the happy-birthday signatures of other users who don't actually care whether or not it's your birthday! :D
Hope this brightens your day. ^^ User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 21:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

LOL! Just under a month late, but ok :D Thanks Raine :P -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 01:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Happy belated birthday, Wyn. =P ~RyuuUser Ryuu Desu Sig.png[ Talk | Meow :3 ] 01:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Not consistent?

Hmm, well I based this off of this page, which is probably one of the more used disambiguation pages. Perhaps you should remove the icons there as well? ~RyuuUser Ryuu Desu Sig.png[ Talk | Meow :3 ] 00:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Or did I? -looks through disamb's. I could've sworn I saw one with profession icons for skills. Mmmm, nevermind =x ~RyuuUser Ryuu Desu Sig.png[ Talk | Meow :3 ] 00:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, looking through some of the disamb pages, quite a few of them use profession icons prior to the skill icons. Shouldn't a template or standard be established for consistency? ~RyuuUser Ryuu Desu Sig.png[ Talk | Meow :3 ] 00:42, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Masters mission :"resist"(maybe this name) ,how to pass

hi Wyn,
  Bother you again, hehe~, the mission of "resist"(maybe this name) it is a Masters mission (dark door of chapter 3);
  I want to know how to complete, in fact I want to capture the elite skill at that mission(warrior sword skill)。
  I think,take a Medical Monk a Protection Monk,"life link" and "dec Hurt" style of protection skill maybe need, my character is warrior,I don't know how can I complete this ? ---- User Xpycy sig Ico.GIFxpycy01:10:04 (UTC)

request for translating the summary of the clan en English

Hi, Wyntyst!

We have completed the translation of the summary. I just wanted to ask if this is enough, and we can keep context in Spanish?

In the rules for the Wiki ( it is said that only summary is obligatory for translate.

We really want to have our Wiki in Spanish and only minimum required content in English.

Thanks for helping us,

ARDR Team --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Konstantin (talk).

Actually, what the rules mean is that you need to make a small "summary" of any aditional content you add to your guild page. In the case of Guild:X Arcangeles Dragon X, you would need to add it for both the introduction section and the recruitment sections (even though, due to the small amount of content, maybe just a short english statement on the introduction section should be enough).--Fighterdoken 21:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I believe we have just added all needed information. Can you check if this is enough, please? We will add more useful information about our site soon, but we believe this is enough to comply the rules at the moment.

Thanks, ARDR Team 2:53 am (UTC), 30 July 2009 --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Konstantin (talk).

It's fine. It's because you are writing it for the wiki community, and the vast majority here are English speakers. (It is the English language wiki after all.) -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 05:51, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Quick question, couldent the wiki community make a Spanish translated tag like that to go below the English one? That way those who are not proficient in english will still know what the tag says.--Neithan DiniemUser Talk:Neithan Diniem 14:50, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Then we would need one in Russian, German, Dutch, French, Italian, and all the other languages that guild pages show up in. We opted to keep it in English. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 14:58, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
if you were talking only about your guild page, you could just use country flags next to the text (ie. UK flag.png and Spanish flag.png). That should be enough to give people a clue.--Fighterdoken 18:53, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

And I have one more question. I want to remove banner "This page is about a particular player guild". Is there any way to do it? 21:09, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Since that automatically gets added with {{guild}}, no there is not any way to get rid of it, and it shouldn't be removed. User Ryuu R.jpg Ryuu - talk 20:14, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
That template is required by the Guild page policy so no, there is no way to remove it. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 02:39, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, ARDR Team 5:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Derv Page

Hey do you mind if I use that layout you have for your derv for my warriors page? Brendan 06:36, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Not at all, that's why my templates are posted on my userpage. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 07:25, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
sweet! thank you! Brendan 18:45, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
im trying to make my page look like your dervs page, but cant figure out how to get those charts for your weaponry or for your titles and stuff. Can you help me? Brendan 19:19, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
oh nevermind, i figured it all out! Brendan 20:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


If its okay with you I'll from now on ask it to you if I can post it if something might be offensive or blablabla to linsey in anyway. My problem is the current skill level.Now my theory is that people are worse then several years ago because of gimmicks.Since they never have to make progress.The reason I currently think this more important then I used to is because I recently guested and we came out against a rank 550 guild.More terrible then I could ever imagine.May I contact linsey about this issue ? Lilondra User Lilondra Sig.jpg*poke* 10:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)


Could you help me with this table: User:Matek/Sandbox, I messed something up and I'm not sure what. I'd use help from someone with more experience, thanks! Matek 15:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

you were missing the pipe ("|") at the start of your entry. ~ PheNaxKian User PheNaxKian sig.jpg 15:57, 31 July 2009
What exactly are you trying to do? -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 15:58, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Table headers

I was thinking, is it possible to make the top row of a table (i.e., the header) float? If that's possible that might be helpful for our suggestion lists, since I would imagine they are going to become more than one screne in length, and it would be nice to have the header easily visible the whole way down. I don't know, maybe that is too complicated and not overly necessary, or not even possible, I have no idea... (Satanael 19:14, 31 July 2009 (UTC))