User talk:Pling/Archive box/2008 Sep-Dec

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About Izzy's page

First off, I'd like to shake your hand for doing this. It takes a lot guts to go up and dea l with problem of that magnitude, so kudos for that.

However, your most recent revert (namely: Noxify's section) of that page has me asking a question: Was deleting is the best idea? That post wasn't well written, but it wasn't trolling or spam of any kind, and it did point izzy to a semi-popular thread that he should (in noxify's opinion) read. I realize that it doesn't belong on Izzy's page, but where does it belong?

Also, for the record, I think most of the reverts on his page have been quite on the mark up till now. Keep it up. -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 15:49, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Regina has stated that they read the forums, and without any evidence to the contrary, we assume they read the skill feedback/suggestion pages. If something on a forum is "semi-popular", chances are they'll read it -- there's no need to post links to the thread on Izzy's talk. If there are balancing issues on the skill feedback pages, we assume they'll read those too. Had there been another, and/or better, talk page to move Noxify's comment to, I would have moved it there; there wasn't, so I didn't. I'm not being lazy and just deleting things rather than moving things (you're probably not insinuating that, but I guess some other people will); if there's another place to bring up the issue, I'll move it there. If Noxify wants to advertise that thread, he can post a link on his userpage if he wants to, but as you say, it doesn't belong on Izzy's talk page. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 16:04, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Maybe we should make a "noticeboard for Anet people" section? I see your point, however. -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 16:08, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't see a need if it'll be used for advertising links to forum threads or suggestion pages; we already have the portals for the skill feedback sections and their appropriate issues, and forums have their links to threads (and we assume ArenaNet go through both). --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 16:44, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Ummmm, sorry I already reverted it before reading this. If you wish, you me re-revert it HOWEVER i feel that section is quite necessary. The link is just there to show him that MANY people agree that rangerspike is over powered, I'm not 'advertising' anything, I'm just trying to show him that the GW community supports the idea of a nerf. I didn't say anything wrong, or do anything bad. You delete my important thing but leave the AVATAR OF IZZY! part? Jokes?--'ÑöĭƑýtalk 18:07, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the entry in the block log now, but I saw your comment only after you were already blocked. To answer your question; Izzy's page is not meant to make him notice something, especially with such a topic it is very unlikely that it is not seen by any ANet developer looking through the forums. The avatar thing there is actually a joke which was made addressing Izzy alone whereas a forum topic is most likely read by other devs as well. poke | talk 18:14, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
This section will answer your question as to why I don't think your section should stay. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 18:34, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

RFA comment

Thanks Brains for your comment on my RFA. I have to admit I agree with you that I do have to work on how i deal with wiki-trolls as my behavior in those instances have not reflected the more professional, balanced and objective side of my personality. As said in my RFA, I'm really just wanting feedback this time round, so over the next few months I can proactively work on the negative aspects of my personality, so that I can really help this wiki in the future. Thanks again for your candor though mate, it's appreciated. -- Salome User salome sig.png 16:34, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

If in time you show that you can shed some of those emotions, I'd likely be supporting you in a future RfA (should you not succeed in this one). Good luck :) --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 16:38, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, I feel tempted to try, even just to be evaluated again. Plus, it would feel good again to get the attention. As you may recall, there were several neutral votes. Hmm, decisions, decisions. I also have a feeling I'm about to be ec'ed.--TalkPeople of Antioch 16:42, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Maybe Overzelous with Smiter's Boon Comment Movements

I was looking at the comments on the smiter's boon talk page and it appeared you were moving every comment which wasn't directly to do with the technicalities of the wiki article itself and placing them on the skill feedback page. I think this is a mistake for a number of reasons. For starters it is very common for a talk page to deal with non wiki technical aspects of the subject, this can be demonstrated all over the wiki. Second of all you were moving topics such as ArenaNet_talk:Skill_feedback/Monk/Smiter's_Boon_(PvP)#Ways__to_actually_use_this_skill_now. from the smiter's boon pvp talk page to the developer feedback talk page. This is very clearly not developer feedback. This does not belong on the developer feedback page. The comment about using Glyph of Renewal is a very common discussion for skills, many skill pages suggest skills to get around obvious drawbacks and thus this comment fit very well on the talk page. By moving this kind of talk to the developer feedback page not only did you remove valid topics from the page you also convoluted the developer feedback talk page with irrelevant topics which would make navigating it for Izzy and other users much more difficult than it already is. Discussion related to developer feedback is lost in a wash of out of place topics. I understand talk pages of skills can become problems when a big inbalance takes place and many users log in to give their two cents or gripe and I understand the use of admin discretion to deal with these circumstances. Admins are not able to influence the discussion or content of the wiki more than another user however. If you had used admin tools to protect the page for a few days to prevent inappropriate comments that would be a logical admin action. What you ended up doing was out of the scope of an admin - deciding on your own what content belonged on the page (beyond trolling vandalism and out-of-place feedback) and what content didn't and then proceeding to remove it - going as far as to remove content which was not out of place and relocating it to a page where it was. Admin discretion does not allow you to influence wiki related talk any more than a normal user and I think you crossed this line here. 18:05, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, he (and all the other admins) were given the authority to move discussions like that any way they want after consensus decided he should be allowed to do so. That has been explicitally described in the notice at the article's talk page, and is the result of a long discussion seen here. Making it short, the community decided that the talk page of an skill's article is there for discussion about the article, not discussion about the skill. All skill discussion belongs to the feedback pages, including how to best use the skill and any other kind of feedback from players to players and to Arena Net. Erasculio 18:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
First of all the length of that talk page makes it pretty clear consensus wasn't reached, the last comments are still discussions with people wanting a solution and a consensus not being reached. Most of it isn't even relevant to the original topic. Either way, had a consensus been reached it would be in the form of policy as this is a pretty clear distinction from normal wiki conventions. Second of all much of the contents moved were not developer feedback and don't belong there. I don't see where admins were given any authority you mentioned. 18:39, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
what brains did there was not a sysop action. yes, the original intent of that topic was about the skill and would've been right on that page, but as it developed it became another discussion about balance, which belongs on the skill feedback page. that much about qualification for moving. any user would've had the right to move it to it's correct place. you could call brains being a sysop a coincidence, or him seeing cleanup as one of his sysop duties. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 18:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Given the section that 122 began at the community portal, let's continue this discussion there, instead of cluttering Brains' page. Erasculio 18:51, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
FYI "discussion which is inappropriate may be removed entirely -- this is left to admin discretion". I wanted to make that clear. I agree with Erasculio I have made my point on Brains' talk page. I won't respond to any more comments unless they are made by Brains and even then only if I think I need to. 18:54, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
fyi, he never removed anything entirely. as this is a direct response i'm posting it here, anything more on the community portal talk. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 18:59, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
If comments aren't about skill balance specifically, they really shouldn't be moved. If people are arguing about nerfs, it's fine to throw them on the dev pages, but if they're unrelated to balance (as 122.104 is saying) they should be left.
Either way, IMO, the smiter's boon talk page isn't constantly crippled by spam. It, like most nerfed skills, gets about a week of attention from the people lamenting its loss, but after that it goes back to being unused. For the most part, comments made there should stay there. -Auron 19:03, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
the discussion we're talking about wasn't even about smiter's boon anymore after three or four comments. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 19:16, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
at least not enough about it to qualify for any of the two talk pages it's been one imo. i think it would best suit a user talk page. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 19:19, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


My apologies. I thought that was part of policy; I think I may have gotten that part ixed up with GWW:ELECT. Thanks for fixing it though ^^ --ShadowphoenixPlease, talk to me; I'm so lonely ;-; 01:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

No problem. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 13:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

M.O.X. the Golem

can you protect it for a few days? — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 01:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

If I did have to protect it, it would need to be edit=sysop as most of the vandalism has been done by registered users -- considering we'll be getting more information about MOX today, I don't feel comfortable with that. Regardless, there hasn't been a lot of vandalism and any vandalism has been easily reverted, so I won't be protecting it now. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 01:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
If it was coming today i think we would have gotten it :\ — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 01:14, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Emily said it will be coming today, although she doesn't have an exact time for it -- User talk:Emily Diehl/Journal.--User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 01:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Ok then, they have 4 hours in my time zone o.O — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 01:17, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


Ach, stupid me. I keep forgetting about the lowercase portion....gotta remember that. Thanks for fixing it though >___< --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 02:33, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, that's ok. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 11:59, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Pling!

^ -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 23:36, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

You breathe a word not to do it, of course it happens!  ;-) --TalkAntioch 23:37, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Category Move

Can I get your opinion on this? --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 02:37, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not totally sure which I'd go for, so I'll keep out of that one. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 12:15, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Can you redirect me to the correct page to find a wiki template?

Hi the section pretty much says it. I want to make a new skill feedback thing on Izzy's Skill Feedback section but I can't seem to get it on the main page.Can you help me please?--Lancy1214 22:20, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

ArenaNet:Skill feedback. -- User Sig.png 15:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
and Guild Wars Wiki:Formatting/Skill feedback pages for formatting. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 16:02, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


This page seems to be off to me. IT says registered users to be 37841 and sysops to be 21 which would make its 21/37841 which would make it .0006% not .06% have rights :\. Maybe its me just me messing something up. PS can we get a {{PAGESIZE}} template?Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 02:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

When calculating percentages, you have to multiply by 100 after the division ;) -- User Sig.png 07:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Woops sry xD. Fails on my part. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 15:30, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Sry but can this guy get a ban ^ ? He posted things on my balance page.Now if armond does that its because i need to l2grammer but he just posted i'm a phailmaster (probely saw the escape nerf lol).Anyway this is not his first act that can be seen as vandalism you stated this yourself.Thx for youre time Lilondra Eviscerate.jpg*poke* 06:16, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

My message was posted months ago, and considering it's an IP address, that's probably no longer relevant. Anyway, I don't think there's a need to ban now -- there seems to be only one or two "vandalism" cases, and they were over 12 hours ago (and you seem to have warned him anyway). In future, you can put these issues on the admin noticeboard. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 14:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


U liek to bane meh for teh disruptions :O --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg 16:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Damn uuuuuuu >:( --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg 16:13, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


^???? anyone here r you have became so srsbsns that my trollspam doesnt hit u eh???? helllooo ooo ooo ... x.x --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg 16:18, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I-no-speak-leet. Do-you-speak-ENGLISH? --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 16:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
kinda xP --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg 16:20, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
So I was saying: HEARD YOU LIKE TO SPAM MY BLOCK LOG FOR THE DISRUPTIONS DO YOU EH???????? --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg 16:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


why do u look like Jora? :o --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg 16:28, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Problems with uploading image

Hi Brains, could you plx help me with something? I've been trying to upload an updated image for an image I've already uploaded before. But whatever I do the old image shows. I must be doing something wrong, but I have no clue what :( It's about this image Thanks in advance ;) -- User_talk:DewdropPepper - Dewdrop talk 11:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Due to issues with the server image cache, it sometimes takes up to an hour for the new images to show. If after that amount of time, your image is still not correct you can try purging the cache by adding ?action=purge to the end of the url in your address bar. This is not something you are doing wrong, it's a problem with the server and Anet is (and has been) trying to make it better for awhile. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 12:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
You can also try clearing your cache; in Firefox hold Shift then click reload, in Internet Explorer hold Ctrl and click reload (or F5). Also to purge just click the clock in the top right corner. --Kakarot Talk 13:20, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Just don't do it right away.. I've had the cache totally get stuck, and the images actually revert (stats change) if I try to do that immediately after reuploading. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 14:20, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeh ive had that happen too. Was not impressed! -- Salome User salome sig2.png 14:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Thx for all the answers ;) I did all that and it is still not working (I've uploaded it at least 2 days ago). If you check the image page and click on former versions you will see the image I'm trying to upload. It's there, but for some reason I can't get it to show :( -- User_talk:DewdropPepper - Dewdrop talk 15:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
I see the new one just fine. But if you continue to have problems, simply rename the link, and upload it clean, and tag the old one for deletion. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 15:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
the new one is displaying on my screen as well. Perhaps it is just a cache issue on your side. I also find changing the thumbnail size helps reset the image. -- Salome User salome sig2.png 19:32, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Just in case but when you talk about "the new one" do you mean the one with the light blue elite armor? Cuz that's the "new one" actually, not the one being presented on top of the list... -- User_talk:DewdropPepper - Dewdrop talk 09:02, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
I see the one in light blue elite armor, it's your personal cache that needs to be reset, not the servers. Misery 09:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
If you mean the one in the blue+green (teal) mix looking off to the left, then that's the one I can see. -- Salome User salome sig2.png 13:32, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
I've been emptying my cache several times, but today it finally worked ^^ Thx alot all! -- User_talk:DewdropPepper - Dewdrop talk 22:44, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


trolling... --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg 18:10, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Brians!

Noboy much comments here o.O *wave* Hi Brains/Plinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg! — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 20:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Plingggggg!!!!Galil Talk page 00:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
I even redirected Pling to your page! — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 02:28, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
hfft that person doesn't have any Brains <3Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 04:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
I wastrying to maek his talk page moar talky but he didnt wunt it :'( --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg 09:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

What namespace?

I'm not really cluttering up his page or anything, it was just a harmless link. It would've been wrong to post the entire list on his talk page, but why delete a link? Hell, you could even argue that it's not about balance, because it's just a link to my own user page. It was meant as a friendly remark, a roadsign, for the lakc of a better word.

If you are adamant about this, could you please show me where that page would be most appropriately linked? -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 12:20, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

You could put your issues in the ArenaNet:Skill feedback pages, that's why they're there.--User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 12:26, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
The problem is that that list is meant to be implemented as a whole. If I post that entire list in that namespace, as it is, I would have to slap a delete tag on it, because long lists like that (At least on that namespace) don't help anyone. -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 12:30, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
sad panda :( Lilondra User Lilondra Eviscerate.jpg*poke* 14:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Hello "failing balancer crew" guys!! --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg 14:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
says the guy that wanted to make a better version of pious assault Lilondra User Lilondra Eviscerate.jpg*poke* 14:17, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Stop it, both of you. I asked a serious question. I want the answer I recieve contain only a trace amount of spam. -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 14:42, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
I've already given you the answer; your skill balancing issues (whether directly or indirectly) belong in the ArenaNet namespace, not Izzy's talk page. I'm sure you could separate each issue; anyway, if a long list like that doesn't help anyone, why are you posting it? --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 14:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
But it's not there. The link is. Is that harmful?
As I said, I'm in a paradox. That list won't make much sense if it's split up, but long pages on the skill feedback pages is something I have precisely sought out and tagged. I simply put the link in his page, because I thought It might relate to izzy himself. Again, no fingers pointed here, but tell me where that list goes (On that namespace) and I'll put it there. -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 15:22, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
says the person who cannot read skil descriptions and wants SF to apply Deepwound ROFLMAO at Lilondra!! --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg 15:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Atleast i have an argument WHY youre balance is bad anyway continue this discussion on my or youre talk page (preferebly yours).Lilondra User Lilondra Eviscerate.jpg*poke* 16:10, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Enough. Not only am I tired of your childishness, but also of your tactless stupidity. This is brains' talk. If I were him, my banhammer would've descended long ago. Please leave us be. -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 16:31, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
WTF are you threatenning me, was it against the rules or not??? --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg 17:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
If you can't separate the issues, then you could point to it from ArenaNet talk:Skill feedback. However, I think you're more knowledgeable about those pages than I am, so perhaps you can find the correct place for it.
If you want other opinions on whether a link on Izzy's talk is acceptable, feel free to ask for them; create a request for comments, perhaps. If more people disagree with me, I'd go along with the decision that's made. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 18:50, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
That'd be a pretty neat thing to RfC - to what extent should we allow link on his page? I don't have time to do that atm, but I'll keep it in mind. -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 19:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

User page

Hey Pling, would you mind if I borrowed the aspect of your user page layout? I've been trying to find a way to simplify mine, but to no real avail. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 00:00, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Sure, but you may want to give credit to me/Galil/Elenya. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 15:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I'll be sure to get everyone. Thanks! :D --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 17:47, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


"where Wyn rules with an iron fist, and Tanetris frolics around." I FROLIC TOO YOU MEANIE FACE! --ShadowphoenixPlease, talk to me; I'm so lonely ;-; 12:14, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

lol frolic..? --Cursed Angel talk 12:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
woof - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 12:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
rawr --Cursed Angel talk 12:26, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm not going to get everyone in the guild on there :P --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 15:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I know I just wanted to pick on you ;) --ShadowphoenixPlease, talk to me; I'm so lonely ;-; 18:10, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I think, in honor of Wyn's reign, I shall have to name my next character Cotton Fist :D SarielV 23:47, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I have my suspicion who is when compared to a certain user's activity...anyway. Can you head here? Are themes like make acceptable?--ShadowFog 22:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Removed, thanks. You can use the admin noticeboard for requests such as these; you may receive a quicker response. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 22:39, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Being sick sucks...

Well wishes from us all at the wiki and a speedy recovery! — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 22:51, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah hopefully a speedy recovery will be granted by the "Wiki Gods" to you Plingggggg :P Now if only I could remember what it is like to actually get sick :( --Kakarot Talk 02:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks guys, but perhaps I'm exaggerating a little -- it's only a cold (possibly flu) :P. Still, I'm not used to being ill, and it does suck. I'll be sure to lay some flowers at the Anja shrine just in case. -- 12:08, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
and I'll be sure to put up a Recovery spirit just for u... --Cursed Angel talk 13:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
*admires flowers* - anja talk 15:40, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
now if that'll only be enough to get you to make him some tea :D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 15:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I've got a few boxes of chamomile that can be put to good use..... --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 15:49, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't like tea :/ (just as, I'm sure, you may not like sausages or sauerkraut :P). If I did have tea, it wouldn't be that herbal stuff. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 16:20, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
i do like those two. it's german cliché, i know, but it is just like that. children usually don't like sauerkraut, but sausages are very "popular". - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Had sauerkraut this morning..... :D --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 16:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
blargh, in the morning?! gosh, i just don't get how you can eat stuff like that for breakfeast. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:24, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Hunger makes people do strange things, I guess. I've had days where I've gone through 6 cups of instant ramen for a mid-morning snack. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 16:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
...i feel like throwing up. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) ....o.O --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 16:29, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

No doubt WT will just eat your throw-up :P --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 16:44, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
i wouldn't even be very shocked by that now xD - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:45, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Eh, I drank stale fish soup for breakfast once. When I was 10. Two bowls.
I don't get it, I don't even like fish! -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 16:52, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Get well soon =o WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 19:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Are you guys sucking up to him so he wont block you?...Nah Im just kidding, perk up and get ready for a brand new day! You are stronger than the common cold... well with medicines and antibiotics.--ShadowFog 19:11, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Herbal tea will kick the nearest can of Advil into the nex time zone! --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 19:19, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
what? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) -.- I guess only I get that one.... >__< --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 19:28, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I got it, and lol'd a little. Ramen is pretty win man, I could almost LIVE off the stuff. i have a small stomach, so I can only put down a pack tho..... — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 22:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


Yea I figured it out, it would have worked fine the whole time, but I didn't have the raw links box checked. Justin6 User Justing6 Justing6 siggypic.png 23:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Brains I wanted to thank you for helping me out. If I do one more copyvio please ban me for a day or something, I have a gut feeling that's what everyone is planning anyway. -- WoB File:User Wings of Blood sig.jpg 22:57, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

euhm about izzy's talkpage

i see youre doing youre job quite well (gg for that) but shouldnt some issues stay on there.The spoil victor thing was not only the skill (in fact ppl use it in combination WITH ss and empathy and that shit) the thing is its more about the amulet of protection.Imo move the discussion if it gets to long to that page but keep the first 3 posts of put a conclusion yourself and movethe rest to that page.I mean yes it keeps hes page clean but hell most of the time click the link and see an unmanageble discussion anyway Lilondra User Lilondra Eviscerate.jpg*poke* 06:01, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Why does a balance issue or skill feedback belong on his talk page, even though there is another place for it and that place has been linked? "I mean yes it keeps hes page clean" -- quite; I believe that's one of the major points for this whole thing. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 11:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
the issue is not only spoil victor not only the amulet etc Lilondra User Lilondra Eviscerate.jpg*poke* 15:32, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
There were other aspects yes, but, as it was moved to a discussion page and not the actual feedback article, that's not a problem. Other pages/discussions can be made for those aspects if necessary. The main issue was about Spoil Victor, and that discussion included its problems, possible solutions, and suggestions on how to improve it. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 16:18, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

User page remnants

Should we just leave Blood's old userpage and talk page be then? Since he changed his name and all :\ — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 21:27, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah; his old sig still point to those pages, so a redirect pointing to his new pages would be helpful. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 21:28, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Gotcha — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 21:32, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I forgot about that =\. -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 01:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


No 1st

Dang i think i prevented myself from being able to first your talk page D: — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 23:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

no, it just got post-pwned. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 02:02, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
ummm ok then. . . haha -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 02:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Wolf, someones gonna sick the dogs on you for that one xD --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 04:28, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
God, I love puns XD — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 16:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm blocked

Why? You said NPA on the block summary, and yet I recall none. Pls remind.

On a related note, when does it expire? 11:26, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

See Armond's talk page; even after Auron's notice to you, you come up with comments like "-he's a qualified ****". Also, do not evade your ban; if you want enquire about it, there are several ways to contact me -- IRC, in-game, or through email (details of which are on my userpage). Further evasions will just lead to a longer block on your main account.
Your block was for a week, and I believe a message comes up with the expiry if you try and edit. The IPblocklist shows all expiries of existing blocks, so you can search for your username and see when your block ends. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 15:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey Brians,

I would like to apologize for the flooding/overflowing earlier. This my first day using all this and im learning all this on my own. Did mean to cause an inconvenience for you guys. Sorry Solstice :)

That's ok, I understand how things can be for a new user. If you need help, don't be afraid to ask :) --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 22:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

hurd u liek

Venomoth. --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg 15:52, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Either speak properly or not at all. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 15:53, 3 October 2008 (UTC):
NPA? — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 16:06, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Blocked Igor. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 16:10, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

NPA violation

Hi Brains,

If you go to the Horrorween page in Special events section, you will see (on the talk page) the comment about the wicker man. Please could you remove this comment? I think it was an attempt to start a wiki flamebaiting war. Its just gonna cause trouble, so could you delete it please. Thanks, --Burning Freebies 16:36, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I've commented on that talk page. By the way, in future you can request admin attention on the admin noticeboard (there's a link on the left navbar). --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 16:52, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Indeed, the noticeboard is probably the quickest way since you don't have to wait until one particular sysop is awake and active. It also lets sysops keep tabs on problems that might develop further. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 17:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

It was not my intention to cause any problems, if a part of your comment was directed at me, i try to be as civil as i can(Bickering is bad).There have been problems in the past with some of the contributors to the Wicker man section, so if i tried to stop the focus of the discussion going away from the original topic to harshly i do apologize. Frozenwind 19:43, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

my balance is almost rdy but

I dont know where to post it.I would like to keep it on this wiki because of the skill icons.Can you give me some help with where I am allowed to post it ? Lilondra User Lilondra Eviscerate.jpg*poke* 09:38, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Your userpage, I guess. I assume you want to post it on Izzy's talk page, but I'd say "no" to that. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 12:24, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Yh the balance and not on izzy's talkpage i know but you said something about skill feed back link or sumthin ? Lilondra User Lilondra Eviscerate.jpg*poke* 13:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
I said that you could post each issue on their respective skill feedback page; as for a universal "post links to balance pages here" page, I don't think one exists. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 13:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
would you allow one to be created ? Lilondra User Lilondra Eviscerate.jpg*poke* 13:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Not my choice, and I don't really have an opinion on it either way. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 13:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


For here, here and prob somewhere else maybe hereSeru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 17:04, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


I always knew Wyn had a third account. So tell me, are you the one the holds the greens, or the one that holds the collectables? --Shadowphoenix Happy Halloween 02:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

He's the one holding the wood planks. — Galil Talk page 10:27, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
actually, he's the one with those grey cells. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 12:17, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
You mean the one with the empty inventarinventory? poke | talk 16:33, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Inventor? Inventory? - anja talk 16:56, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Wyn + Charachter with empty inventory = Impossible! --Shadowphoenix Happy Halloween 17:04, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
meh, thanks Anja <_< poke | talk 17:09, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
(does gray/grey cells even have the same meaning in english as in german?) - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 14:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
You mean the inventory boxes, right? Grey cells does make sense, but I'd probably call them.. well, inventory boxes :P, or slots. In fact, it took me while to realise what you meant; I first thought you were making a Poirot reference :/ --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 14:43, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
...Am I the only one who saw "grey cells" as in "grey brain cells" as well as a pun on empty inventory slots? -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 14:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
in that case you would be the only one who got what i meant :D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 15:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
No. :P - anja talk 15:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Whew. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 15:43, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Grey brain cells = Poirot reference. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 15:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Whozzat? -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 15:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I got it Y0 =D — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 15:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I didn't. :P — Galil Talk page 22:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Shall I explain? — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 22:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
No, I get it now, just not when he posted it the first time. :P — Galil Talk page 22:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Ah! kk. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 22:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I still don't get it O.o *scratches head* --Shadowphoenix Happy Halloween 01:23, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Explainin time them. Gray Cells was refering to the gray spaces on ones inventory that are not occupied by an item. Also, Gray Cells, or Gray Matter is also a term used to refere to brina cells. So, Y0 is the one with all the brains and all the empty storage space. Atleast I think thats what he was getting at. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 02:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

not really... i'll recall the context and sentence:
I always knew Wyn had a third account. So tell me, are you [Brains] the one the holds the greens, or the one that holds the collectables? --Shadowphoenix
He's the one holding the wood planks. — Galil
actually, he's the one with those grey cells. - Yo
i.e. i said "brains is neither the one who holds greens, nor collectables, nor the wood planks. he's the one holding the grey cells" (-> pun to his user name and his intelligence). - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Y'know, if a joke requires this much explaining, it's not much of a joke :/ --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 16:46, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
i'd hoped the pun was justified :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
You hoped wrong :) --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 17:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I thought it was funny. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png{{Bacon}} 20:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I lol'd. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 21:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
i think this part of the convo deserves a 'lol' most. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 14:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


You're a sysop and that's the closest as I've got how to bring up this issue. It appears that adding "Bring Pain Inverter" to various mission pages seems to be a knee-jerk reaction with people, to add to "Skill Recommendations".. Does it really need to be mentioned everywhere? I figure after it's introduced a couple times it goes without saying, or is overall unnecessary anyway.- VanguardUser-VanguardAvatar.PNG 17:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I have no opinion (or authority) about this, so I'll just point you to where you can get more responses: GWWT:MISSIONS is probably your best bet. You could add a request for comments to get more input if necessary. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 17:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
That works. I knew that if you couldn't answer that you'd know where I could go :D - VanguardUser-VanguardAvatar.PNG 20:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


Yay? Erasculio 16:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


aww but that stuff was funny! — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 20:01, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


Hey, I have a tiny question regarding the connection between my IP address ( and my GWW account. Before I made an account here on the wiki I had already written a tiny article (namely the one on crafting), and now of course this article is not in the list of my account's contributions, but in the list of my IP's contributions. Is there a way to move these contributions from my IP to my real account? This is obviously not a major issue but if you know a way to solve it, please let me know. -- Jair 21:03, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

No, there's not a way to transfer contributions from one account/IP to another. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 21:11, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Okay, thanks anyway. -- Jair 21:13, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


Hey...just wanted to say very sorry about that. XD I wanted it to look cool and I have tried to resize it...I will do my best to work on that in the future...Your invited too though. XD So I hope you can come! - Tesla User Tesla Teslasmallsig1.gif 11:51, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page (noticed that before I saw this here). --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 11:53, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
See you then. ^_^ I'm off to go back to sleep XD its 6 am here and I shouldn't have woken up in the middle of the night...Anyhow, take care and thanks again for the suggestion. - Tesla User Tesla Teslasmallsig1.gif 11:58, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Unacceptable signature

Hello Brains. It has come to my attention on the elections page that User:Cursed_Angel has changed their signature to Cancer Angel. This is against wiki policy. Just thought you should know. --Burning Freebies 07:21, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

How is it against policy? --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 11:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
I noticed the section on his talk page and answered there. By the way, if you're informing other users about policy and whatnot, be sure to read it and understand it first; having a different name in your signature to that of your username isn't restricted (within reason). Also, policies aren't technically "laws" and to abide by a policy isn't to make something "legal" - law implies something different. Policy is the written form of what and how users do things, and law implies explicit rules that are set up in order to follow to the word. I'll not go further into wiki politics and whatnot, but what I'm trying to say is... don't make comments about policy so rigid and lawyery. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 11:42, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
here is a link that pretty much explains it; in case anything confused you, Burning Freebies. -- WoBUser Wings of Blood sig icon.png 23:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

If I may suggest..

This probably belongs on the Admin noticeboard, but as you are the main Sysop enforcing the rules set on volatile talk pages, I decided to bring my concern to your attention directly. If there has been a change in the way volatile talk pages are dealt with I have not yet informed myself of, please consider this message as unsent. To the point: I believe this discussion, which started as a simple though imo not really elegant question towards Izzy, has turned into a discussion between users about Izzy, is not usefull, inappropriate and (though this is purely my own opinion) contains elements that could easily be interpreted as offensive towards Izzy and the balance team, and thus violate GWW:NPA, and should be removed. Please do not interpret this message as a bad remark towards your (or any other sysop's) performance on volatile talk pages, as I think you are doing a great job, I am merely expressing my concern in this particular case. Thanks. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 15:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Removed it, kept the original question - if anyone on that talk pages knows the actual answer, it'd be Izzy (not to mention that it was directed to him); the rest is speculative and ... so helpful! Yeah. Anyway, if anyone wants to complain, and I know they will, please take it to the community portal or another admin.
In future, please take these issues to the noticeboard. Acting on that talk page by my own choice (even if rather reluctantly) is one thing, being sought out specifically for it is another. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 17:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Sure, I will. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 19:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


block venomoth

kthx. -- 22:27, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Lol Super Igor? Also, don't block him cause he is awesome. Dark Morphon(contribs) 14:52, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


moved to User talk:Regina Buenaobra#xfire

Image background

I loaded up File:User Noctarch Handwriting.jpg, first with white background then twice with a sand-colored one. But it does not show up. Can you tell me why? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 00:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

It does to me. calor (talk) 01:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
For me as well. I assume it's because of the problems we've been having over the past few days; try the usual things like refreshing or waiting a certain amount of time (say, an hour or twenty-four). --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 17:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
=O It somehow works now. Recently I mainly had problems with a "Non-px'd" version that is to say it shew up white in full-mode and sand-colored in small mode. Odd's (the) world. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 22:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Izzy's talk

The question was asked to Izzy, and I'm pretty sure he's the only one here, if anyone, who would have an accurate answer; the rest is speculation and doesn't really answer Gordon's question (simply because you don't actually know). --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 12:01, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Pretty sure Izzy doesn't actually know either, he is a game balancer not a programmer. Perhaps this question is in the wrong place? Misery 14:30, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Maybe, but if I remember correctly, he has answered similar questions. Do you have any suggestions as to where it belongs? I'm not sure if any programmer regularly checks the wiki, so I'd say leave it for Izzy. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 17:34, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

A Question

I have a question:

On my discussion page how do i add a link the takes users to the "add a comment page" / "+"?

--Fox Cub 10:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I think you've done it already? By the way, the current formatting on your talk page will mean that new sections created in that way won't be added within the formatting; you'll have to change that formatting so that people can easily add new sections. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 13:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Movement of the world comments

Thank you, I'm still a wikihatchling. Good service, sire. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 17:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


Very good one! :D poke | talk 07:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

It's your turn next time >.> --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 15:14, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
yes, sir! poke | talk 20:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


XD - [Bot henchman] would be great :P *barrage-barrage-barrage* poke | talk 06:52, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

whatever it is, it's bound to have avatar of poke, though. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 11:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Closest thing is probably MOX :P --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 17:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
M.O.X. was always a bad name... *cough* xD poke | talk 17:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
P.O.X. or what? :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:45, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
I somehow doubt Po Ke being kurzick-ish enough. It fits central Kaineng much better. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 06:48, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm fine with a simple "Patrick" :P poke | talk 08:01, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Question from me...

I know that the 'greatest wave' section was too long and too big, but may I ask why you say that a talk page isn't a place for good communication??? I think the talk page from an user isn't only for talk about GW or wiki thingies... Or is it written somewhere that we aren't allowed to talk about cats and dogs??? ^^ Greetings, |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 13:55, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

of course, everyday conversation can't be prohibited, but it shouldn't exceed enough to fill such a huge space, especially if its purpose is specifically posting enough to make such a wave. (btw, it's "a user", because it's pronunced like "you-ser" ;) it goes after pronunciation, not spelling.) - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
What he said. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 17:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Thats clear for me.... For you Y0: nou en??? ^^ |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 15:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


That has to be one of the quickest upload and deletions on this wiki :P --Kakarot Talk 02:15, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

bronze? poke | talk 08:03, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
I was going to use it for something, then I decided not to. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 13:38, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Talking about deletion and deciding not to do stuff...I have this page saved for something but I dont have time to do templates and what not. Recently I've put up a delete tag. So... this is pretty foward... fast deletion please.--ShadowFog 21:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Guild Wars Wiki:Deletion policy#Speedy deletion --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 21:57, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a bunch. That page was bothering me with it's menacing look.--ShadowFog 23:22, 18 November 2008 (UTC)'s comment

Does this statement raises any red flags?--ShadowFog 19:24, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

There is a noticeboard for this, you know. -- Mini Me talk 19:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes there is Mini but I have my doubts if constitutes a NPA, thats why Im asking Brains first.--ShadowFog 20:24, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Then its still best to ask on the noticeboard. That is what its there for. Sysops decide whether something is NPA or not, and the place that one looks to for answers like that is the noticeboard itself. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 20:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Not really. And yeah, as the others say, it'd be better to go to the noticeboard; also see Aiiane's comment in an above section, "Indeed, the noticeboard is probably the quickest way since you don't have to wait until one particular sysop is awake and active. It also lets sysops keep tabs on problems that might develop further". --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 21:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Unworthy Dead

Hi Brains12! You deleted Unworthy Dead (linked from Rift Warden) a while ago and I'm questioning if I can re-create this article as a part of our Historical content category. What do you think? BigBlueUser Big Blue Icon.pngtalk 12:50, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I checked its history and the only reason it was deleted was because it contained no relevant information. Feel free to recreate it :) - anja talk 14:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! BigBlueUser Big Blue Icon.pngtalk 15:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Category Stubs

Could you provide some guidance on how the narrow stub categories. I made some category changes and had them reverted back to the main Stub category. The instructions on the Category:Stub and General Formatting pages both mention to make the category best fit, and that the main category should be empty. If the selections I made were incorrect, what would have been the correct choice? I am left confused on what I should be doing. Just trying to help. Thanks Tsafran 19:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

It's great that you're cleaning up those general stubs. However, some of the specifications you've made I think aren't exactly correct, and I changed them to what I think fits best - it's just a matter of determining what the article is based on and documenting (not just what it includes). For example, a guide about playing a profession might contain some build ideas, but that doesn't make it a build stub. If an article doesn't fit in a specific sub-category, then it could be put into the main category - it's a stub, but it might not fit into one of those specifications.
That probably doesn't help though.. I'm not sure how to clarify it further. What may help is looking through the sub-category for similar articles - for example, if you think an article might be a lore-stub, look through the lore stub category and see if the articles there are similar. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 19:23, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

why isn't the image working for r5 zaishen?

i uploaded the new pic but the thumbnail is still the old picture? any solutions? when you click the thumbnail it shows my picture but that kind of defeats the purpose if you can't see it without clicking the pic.


plz reply on the zaishen rank discussion page as i will be checking that and not your talk page for replies (since i made a sub section with the exact text as above). tyvm! ^^ --Uchiha Lena 01:52, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I replied on said talk page. User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 02:26, 29 November 2008 (UTC)



Actually, GWW:DELETE says nothing about it. If it did, you would have to have banned yourself some months ago XD.
And darn... i was just filling up the report to the admin noticeboard.--Fighterdoken 00:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

The policy mentions to discuss on the talk page if one disagrees with the deletion; that in conjunction with the multiple reverts and ignoring of the warnings (which, yes, is more major than what the deletion policy says) is enough for a block, in my opinion - I'm not blocking solely for the deletion policy.
Also, Too Slow! --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 00:07, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


Can you explain why this comment was deleted, please? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Dark Morphon (talk).

Because it was neither to nor from Izzy. Like it says at the top of the page. - Tanetris 16:23, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Oic. Dark Morphon(contribs) 16:36, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


Trying to up date this Guilds cape.. says i cannot.. help Guild:The Lesser Horse Men- Kelli User Tesla Kellisig2.jpg 14:08, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean by can't update the image? If you are referring to the notice saying: "Warning: You are uploading a file that was previously deleted ..." then that is merely providing you with the reason the old image was deleted as it also does for pages and you can just upload as normal. --Kakarot Talk 14:14, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Blocking User then its IP

I've been seeing a lot of blocking to IPs that are to be suspected to be blocked users. Isn't it enough to ban the user already?--ShadowFog 15:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Some people tend to circumvent their block by using proxy accounts, so those proxy accounts get blocked and the user's block will likely be extended. The software can block the user's actual IP by itself (provided the options are enabled), but it obviously can't do the same to proxies. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 15:43, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
If a user's editing privileges have been blocked for violating policy, that means they don't get to edit the wiki during the time of their block. If they are allowed to come in with proxy ip addresses and edit the wiki, that just makes the block meaningless. In the case of both Noxify and Lilondra, they are openly claiming the edits either with entries to the edit summaries, or by replicating their signatures on their edits. Thus the proxy addresses they have used have been blocked, and those edits have been removed. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 16:18, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
When I was blocked, the IP was blocked (yesterday). Now I'm not posting anything to Izzy's page that's not directed to him. BTW saying confirmed was... I laughed when I saw myself blocked. The reason was okay I must admit Boro 07:30, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
I have a question husband and I share an IP because of a common router, I am concerned that if he is banned, will I get the same punishment due to this? In the case someone assuming he may try to dodge a block on my account, I assure you he does not have my password, but this is still, obviously a concern I would have. Thank you :) --*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 11:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
The automatic block on an IP only lasts for 24 hours. The IP blocks mentioned above are proxy accounts, so those kinds of blocks wouldn't affect you at all. Usually when an IP address is blocked "Anonymous users only" is ticked so that other people can still use their account if they happen to be on the same IP address. Worst case scenario you could find your IP blocked for 24 hours, but I suspect most admins would remove the automatic block if you asked them. Misery 11:53, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
You can still edit using an unblocked account - even on blocked IP addresses - you just need to login. poke | talk 20:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

you got somethin to say about it, punk?

-User Auron csig.png Auron 10:10, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Hoe hoe hoe --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 10:11, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Oh, just one question.. what the hell is it?? --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 10:12, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
It's a holiday dildo. [3] -User Auron csig.png Auron 10:13, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


Is it less pretty now on purpose? (Humbug?) Vili User talk:Vili 00:56, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

.... /me reverts --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 01:14, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
That bad? o_O --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png w.t. 01:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
LOL Pling! You have to believe me when I say, that your "holiday spirit" fails! :P poke | talk 08:32, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Yea, I kindda liked your holiday sig.. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 10:36, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Maybe a little little bit off topic but... how can I insert pictures to my signature? tried templates, [[img:Wounding_Strike.jpg]]-s but no avail. Maybe you can tell me how to do it. Thanks for your time in advance Boro 13:21, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
It's [[Image:Name.jpg]], not [[img:. Also, if you want something like the Wounding Strike icon, you'll have to reupload it as a user image, i.e. Image:User Borotvaltgandalf Wounding Strike.jpg. Looking at other users' signatures might help you. There is also Guild Wars Wiki:Sign your comments/Help:Signatures. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 15:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

ShadowFog's block

I've reduced ShadowFog's block back to the remainder (more or less) of his previous duration of 3 days. He has contacted me by email claiming that you may have lengthened the block on him for this edit, and that it was not him. I think I believe him so I proceeded to undo the lengthened ban. If that was not the reason why you lengthened the ban, then please do as you see fit. -- User Sig.png 02:52, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

The usage of a proxy, as well as the style of posting and the post itself, was enough for me to assume it was ShadowFog. I still believe it was so, but I'll defer to your judgement. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 03:04, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
The bias specific to that user and the proxy site used after said user was blocked made it pretty obvious to me :< -User Auron csig.png Auron 03:05, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, it's not like there aren't any lurkers who would love to give you or Brains some bias given how you two are quite visible users. I'd rather give users some benefit of doubt or leniency (even if it goes against instincts) than lose contributors. But I admit my relative inexperience when it comes to proxies and such when compared to the two of you. -- User Sig.png 00:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Double take

|<--	Pling has left (Quit: Pling timeout)

You made one. --TalkAntioch 03:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

/bow --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 17:08, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Brains12 as spambot

Shame on you, spambot. — Galil Talk page 17:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Go block yourself. --TalkAntioch 17:15, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


User_talk:Isaiah_Cartwright#Thankies.21 is up with that? As soon as a negative comment comes in, you go over there and boom, discussion is over. I guess it wouldn't be over if it was full of positive things, would it?

Stop being a retarded ass kisser kthx. Pretty sure Izzy should be able to handle negative comments. Mini Me talk 19:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Sometimes it helps to check historials on the wiki. Basically, Izzy's (and a few other pages like ursan) became so misused that in order to avoid spam, rants, flame-wars and general off-topic discussions, they became heavily moderated to the point that anything that may be the source of problems is shot down in the act. It's not about Izzy handling negative comments, but about preventing the need for admins to come later and start spreading bans left and right for NPA breaches, trolling, and general disruptive behavior.
I think here you can find all the reasons why such pages are so heavily moderated.--Fighterdoken 19:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Wow! I totally didn't know that! Thank you so much! Mini Me talk 19:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
It's got nothing to do with ass kissing, it's to do with going in before the flames, balance rants, and personal attack start to keep the page somewhat readable and less forum-like. Also, it'd help if you didn't attack me either. Less trolling would be nice too. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 21:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm not trolling. Mini Me talk 18:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Templates and Images

Do you remember the XXXX templates and the images I uploaded I mistakenly put in the main name space in October? If not check my talk to refresh your memory. This is the final result and the sum of 2 months wiki education and experimentation. It is a mission progress chart for tracking any number of characters, any mix of professions, and can easily be used to compare your character(s) progress with anyone else who is using it too. Please... Take a look and tell me what you think. Elric Coy 15:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm not into the whole "pages for characters' title/mission/quest/hero progression" thing, so I'm not really the best person to ask. However, at first glance, it's not really easy to tell what means what (just looks like boxes to me), and I'm not sure how I'd go about editing it. Using the icons that are found in-game and are well-known seems simplest to me, personally. But as I said, I'm not the best person to judge this sort of thing. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 16:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, it only takes a few seconds of thought to read the chart. In Nightfall there are 6 levels of completion for any given mission. Standard, Expert, and Masters for normal mode and again for hard mode. So, reading any given box from left to right, each darkened box represents a level of completion. The black/grey part of the bar represents normal mode and red part of the bar represents hard mode. Editing and usage is explained on the template. Sorry, I assumed you would be able to find it. Instructions for use. Anywho... as you said, you are the wrong person to ask so... Elric Coy 16:32, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


Should this be reverted? I'm 99.9% sure it does not belong there. — Jon 00:15, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, reverted. If you're that sure of something, be bold and do it :) --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 00:19, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask, and I didn't want to leave the chance of starting something. — Jon 00:23, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Wouldn't that belong under GW2 Suggestions? Just wondering? Perhpasperhaps put that up and say who and where it came from? Again, just asking. -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 06:12, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Look at the posting time. poke | talk 19:49, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I had a look through the Guild Wars 2 suggestion pages and found several suggests rather close and between them all, contained that idea. — Jon 19:51, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

For you

Lump of Charcoal.png --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 02:44, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

O.O — Jon 02:45, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
And a pile of poo to you, too. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 02:46, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, did you know that a "Lump" down here is something like a scalawag? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 02:55, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas, to you and yours! Hope you get what you wish for. --TalkAntioch 04:28, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Wyn, you're mean! :P Happy holidays, Pling! Rainbow Candy Cane.png --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 04:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas and Happy Wintersday Pling. --Kakarot Talk 06:15, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Meh, he told me he didn't want my Merry Christmas message.... so he got the alternative. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 06:17, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

And what day is it now?


It's the one that is 364 days before my next birthday! And... It's the birthday of Plingggggg!!!!! Happy Birthday Pling! Much <3 and <3!

Have a great day and may the image upload work soon, so you'll see the image to the left. poke | talk 00:00, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) User Brains12 cake.png Happy Birthday Pling and all the Best :) --SilentStorm User SilentStorm MySig.png 00:00, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Jesus, everybody has the birthday within a span of 5 days. --TalkRiddle 00:01, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
<3<3 Happy Birthday! <3<3 --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 00:03, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy Birthday!! :D -- User indochine dsk tree.png Indochine talk 00:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy birthday Pling! --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 00:11, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks all! --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 00:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy Birthday :). Dominator Matrix 01:47, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy birthday, Pling! calor (talk) 01:56, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy Birthday Plingggggg :) --Kakarot Talk 04:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy Birthday, hope it was a good one. — Jon 04:34, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy Birthday!Boro 10px‎ 07:50, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy Birthday! Lord Belar 17:36, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy Birthday!--Silverleaf Special:Contributions/SilverleafDon't assume, Know! 18:01, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy Birthday, Plinggggg! -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 18:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 21:23, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy birthday! Many happy wiki edits to you. Erasculio 22:49, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy B-day Pling! --Shadowphoenix User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png 03:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy belated b'day, Plingggggguhguhguhguh -snogratUser Snograt signature.png 07:04, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks again everyone <3 --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 16:07, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

KHEP EEN FEESTHOEDJE OP!! Dark Morphon(contribs) 15:39, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

OMG I missed your birthday!! D: No popcorn for me for a year. :( (Happy belated birthday! <3) - anja talk 17:28, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Image Uploads

Are they not working at the moment? I've been trying for the past few minutes ot upload an image for ym sig, but to no avail. — Jon 20:08, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't work sometimes, there's some problem with something and some such. It's been reported and discussed at GWW:BUG, so you'll find more info there. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 20:11, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Ok, just making sure it's not a local problem. Thanks. — Jon 20:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

undoing my undoing

Ok /agree Boro 10px‎ 21:26, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year

You were on mah Talk page so happy new year (gmt +2 here might be early for you x) ~Enar. hello. 22:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year! GMT+1 Boro 10px‎ 23:05, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy new year :) --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ talk 00:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy new Year :) --SilentStorm Talk to me 00:46, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy new year! -- Salome User salome sig2.png 00:59, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy New Year! :D poke | talk 16:47, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy New Year Plingggggg :) --Kakarot Talk 20:54, 1 January 2009 (UTC)