Talk:Running

I would very much like to put up highly reliable running builds for successfully performing high-level runs, and general running tutorial(s), e.g. "Running Nightfall - From Gates of Desolation to Kodash Bazaar" on running. Feena 13:05, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

On another note - sorry for the double edit - I would like to include at least links to running builds for people who want to get into running to practice with. I mean, there's such a wide variety that it would be nice for people to see some of the better options - Warrior, Dervish, Ranger, Monk, whatever. I think it would be cool to do this. Kami No Kei 14:54, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Fake pro runners

Why Gates Of Desolation to Kodash Bazaar? I would say that the most significant run in the GW universe is the Beacons Perch to Droknars Forge. While on the subject of running I have also had ideas about a sort of Running Societywhich you have to sign up for with you running character to be classed as a runner. This society would have special character title tracks that will lead up to officially being a Pro runner which is a title you must be able to wear before you can go gallavantng around claiming to be a pro runner. Beacause, lets face it, practically any level 20 can go around saying that they are a pro runner. This runners society could also have runner training quests that contribute to the pro runner title track and a final quest in which you have to run an NPC from Beacons to Drok and recieve a final award that maxes out the track. What do u think? --The Thunderbolt Guy 10:52, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Thunderbolt Guy I like your idea, but think A-net would ever impliment such a thing, I have an idea though, about a companion website geared towards runners. If anyone would be interested.. It would be a place where people could advertise their running, and people could go there to look for runners. There are such a wide variety of places that can be ran, and people looking for such that it seems like a good idea, we could even do something where people go there and rate the runs they have gotten or leave feedback.. Runners could identify people who do not pay and such.. If anyone is interested add me to friends Storm Redhawk --Drkvamp 00:25, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

That has got to be the stupidest thing yet anyone would just go and get it runner or no runner plus the real runner half wouldn't even have it in the first place so you actually make runners harder to find and less available if you choose that method

I don't really think that this would ever be implemented through ArenaNet, though it's an interesting idea. I don't really like it as I don't want to have to go through all that just to wear a badge which most players (who aren't runners) wouldn't know about anyways. I can do all the runs possible in Tyria (though I don't run much in Cantha or Elona because I hate Cantha and I like Elona too much to run through it) and the best way to prove this is to offer a run at a reasonable price with no pay up front. People learn. I would never pay for a run from anyone who says "Pro" in their advertisement for themselves - it's arrogant and really unsubstantiated. Kami No Kei 14:52, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

And given the fact that each game since prophecies has had barricades from running many parts, I would think its not Anet's most favorite activity in the game.--Ryudo 03:34, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, anet does not like runners. They kinda want to get hinder them. I like the idea too, but it promotes an idea that is basically "skipping the hard parts" of the game. NalanaTalk 02:02, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

They should think about retrofitting about 80% of their game so that it isn't pointless, because I'd much rather knock my head against the wall making terrible runs until I get it right than go through most of the Prophecies campaign. 141.165.170.182 00:15, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Best Running Profession

I often wonder about what is potentially the best profession for running. Most people i ask tend to say warrior but im not convinced. OK so they have a seemingly endless supply of speed boost skills but they dond have much in the way of healing powers. I recently started using my Ele/Monk character for running and I've bee experimenting with the different combinations. Shortly after i found that by using the water magic attribute I could become almost invincible if i have the right skills. So i reckon that, if used with that potential skill the Elementalist could be the best running profession. --The Thunderbolt Guy 14:29, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think there is a profession better than another for running, I run from Beacon's Perch to Droknar's Forge with my Dervish and my Sin without any problem. Some runners can do the same with their Warrior or Ranger, but I've never seen an Elementalist perfom the Droknar's run. If so Elementalist may be a good running profession, but not the best. Ascendance

Thats probably beacause people are prone to thinking that Elementalists aren't for running and are just for inflicting damage on enemies. But there is a wide variety of skills for the elementalist runner: eg. Storm Djinn's Haste can give you a speed boost of 33% for 20+ seconds if you max out air magic and Armor of Mist can increse armour as well as speed.

There are also skills like Mist Form (Elite) which render you immune to damage for a period of time.

Another offputter could be that the elementalist does not have a good range of healing skills. This is easily solved when you have the monk as your second profession. Healing of protection prayers is good for this.

That's probably why you don't see eles on the droknar run. I have attempted the run many times but i amn't quite good enough for it yet. --The Thunderbolt Guy 13:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

I'd assume the most likely reasons would be:

1. Armor of Mist can't be maintained 100% of the time.
2. Mist Form doesn't make you immune towards damage, only damage from attacks. Damage from attacks aren't what kills you. Knockdowns and snares are. Obsidian Flesh would've been a better choise, if it wasn't for the 50% slower movement speed.
3. Ele/monks have no anti-knockdown skills, unless using "I Am Unstoppable!", but that would mean you'd have to stop every now and then since it can't be maintained.

— Galil 14:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Rushing the mouth of torment?

I don't get what it means... The mouth of torment is not a mission and I don't see anything to rush over there. Chriskang 08:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I realize this is a bit late on your question, but what i believe they are refering to is the Ruins of Morah Mission near there...to kill Varesh.Thomas Malakier 12:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks Thomas. Chriskang 03:00, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

how they skip places?

how do they skip towns etc? say ascalon.. how they get at lion arch without missions with run? i see now place wich leads u to lion arch without missions

From ascalon there's a load of explorables to the north of the northern shiverpeak missions which you can run across. Lord of all tyria 19:52, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

really? ow... can you name some?

Ascalon City -> Old Ascalon -> The Breach -> Diessa Lowlands -> Ascalon Foothills -> Traveler's Vale -> Iron Horse Mine -> Anvil Rock -> Deldrimor Bowl -> Griffon's Mouth -> Scoundrel's Rise -> North Kryta Province -> Lion's Arch. On the way you can also pick up Piken Square, Grendich Courthouse, Yak's Bend, Ice Tooth Cave, Beacon's Perch and Gates of Kryta. — Galil 14:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Forgot Dragon's Gullet

Why go Dragon´s Gullet? it only makes run longer since nothing there, really 82.95.65.117 18:57, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

is it possible?

I have a nightfall char and i have managed to get to ascalon from lions arc so thats ok but i was wondering on factions if there is any way of getting a non factions char from the main land to the monastry ? please reply

possible, "Characters from other campaigns must first get to Seitung Harbor (take a boat from Kaineng Docks from the Marketplace to arrive) and then travel west through Saoshang Trail and Linnok Courtyard to arrive at Shing Jea Monastery."--RAd1cAl_EdwArd 00:33, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Edited

I've added a link to Running skills in the See Also section. --Horsedrowner 11:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Lion's Arch to Ascalon City run

Under the bullets of popular runs, you can currently find this sentence:

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Characters originating in Factions and Nightfall sometimes get run from Lion's Arch to Ascalon City, in order to unlock skills, gain the Protector of Tyria title, and participate in the holiday events that appear in Ascalon City.

— Running

Emphasis mine, and that's also my issue. What can a foreigner unlock by running to Ascalon City that's not available in Lion's Arch? I mean, skill quests up to Lion's Arch are not available to foreigners anyway. totte 12:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

if you want the guardian or protector title you need to go back to Ascalon in order to beat those missions for the titles. Also for vanquisher title.

Running for scammers...

I runned so many time at imperial sanctum, and I got so many times ppl get off without paying Scammer: droknar warrior

I got screens as prove: http://www.xcivareweb.com/GW_Scam/pict_1.jpg
http://www.xcivareweb.com/GW_Scam/pict_2.jpg
http://www.xcivareweb.com/GW_Scam/pict_3.jpg

He got off without paying. The other one has paid as you can see

Welcome to GW running ^^ 12.11.143.16 21:29, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Exploit?

Hi. I've been mainly watching a fight on some forums between few users - one saying running's exploit and few others trying to convince him that running is infact not exploit. I hope you understand my question, and that someone out there will be able to answer to the question: is running an exploit or not? (and maybe why's that along with a yes/no). Thanks :D --Шзвч [TALK] @ 18:37, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Exploit says no. Vili 18:37, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Back Up Runner

Currently started by user : Damien Lacambra , a fourm of Insurance Policy, a Runner highers another Runner to, run alongside the original Runner, incase the Orignal Runner dies, or can`t complete the task, the back up runner receives the money, either to give to original runner , or to keep, whatever the deal between Runner and back up runner. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Crazzydrummer (talk).

a question..

Im thinking of creating a runner, however, wich proffesion is the best to go? I know dervishes are good, but I would prefer a ranger... but can rengers run?Charocles 09:56, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Rangers are great runners. Lord Caeliat 23:13, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

HUGE run idea

I had an idea for a massive run that would be organized and advertised months in advance, where a large team or runners and rushers would do complete campaign runs. Yes, FULL campaigns. It would be set up so as to get to the end of the desired campaign as quickly as possible, by setting a new runner with a new build at each outpost along the way that is best suited for the next area. So it would end up like, someone starts at Ascalon, runs to yaks. Then someone else goes from yaks to beacons, then to droks. They then go as fast as they can through the missions, using a team of 5 rushers (only 3 cargo people from ascalon) and then once they arrive at the end of the game, the payment is made. (For a run of this length, the cost would be very high.)

Security for payment would be made by making this very public, and thus watched (hopefully) by GW employees, and also by making them say at the beginning that the will pay the money, take a screenshot of that, and when they attempt to leave, take another screenshot, then you would have evidence to say they scammed you.Just an idea I thought would be cool. The Orlando 03:51, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Thats stupid as hell, seeing how you would find almost no1 to even consider buying the run and those who did would most likely scam you at the end because you couldnt get an employee to watch and if they did all they would do is laugh at you when you didnt get payed because A-net does not support running meaning they couldnt are less if a runner or person being ran gets scammed. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.19.134.216 (talk).

Its an idea but its not gonna work. In factions and Nightfall you have to do primaries. It is possible in Tyria and it used to be done in Tyria. Drogo Boffin 04:40, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

People have been running proph tours for a long time I guess people who aren't runners would know that tho.

there may be somethig to this idea, i was approached by a power trader to complete prophecies NM for him, i did this in two days, all missions and bonus NM, got as payment a tormented shield, as long as you can garauntee the payment would be made it could be very proffitable.Spark-TBa 15:37, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

running to the central tansfer station

i was wondering if there was a run to the central tansfer station. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Wowufail (talk).

Yes there is a "run" of the sort. It involves a character completing the Destruction's Depths quest, and anyone in the party will be taken to CTC after it is completed. Well you use to be able to, not sure about it now. ~Celestia 08:10, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

As long as the party leader has access to the town through the battle depths, so does everyone else in the party. --Briar Flame Me 08:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

ok ty :Di'll ill c if any1 wants to do something like that

I know ANet doesn't like it

But they've provided LOUSY incentives to go explore their maps, beyond bouncing from mission post to outpost, etc., completing their campaigns. Honestly, I've found some awesome stuff while running - which I'm sure ANet would appreciate being experienced by their clientele, given they presumably worked hard on them - and I would not ever have put together a team of 8 for no other reason than to slog through endless mobs of tactically-brainless creatures which happen to have godly timing. I think ANet should probably get their priorities in order, since they model themselves a lot like a Pay-to-Play game, which I specifically bought Guild Wars NOT to play. 141.165.170.209 22:53, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

why is it not on the main page

i would like to ask why the fact that nowhere it says that running should be put in trade chat, i mean places like LA and gunnrs hold it gets spammed constantly in all chat, after a recent arguement about the issue i e-mailed anet and they confirmed that running is a service in exchange for gold and there for should be in trade channel Spark-TBa 06:10, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

the following was sent to me from GM FruitSnake, Running is considered a trade, because there will be a trade of money or goods at some point. The best place to advertise is in Trade Chat. can we have some kind of confirmation on main page to this effect cause when i let people know via whisper or all chat all i get is abuse, i dont make the rules just trying to stop others breaking them.Spark-TBa 20:49, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but "confirmation" on the wiki isn't going to change much. Most people only go on to check maps for missions and such anyway. --Kyoshi (Talk) 21:17, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

so what your saying is no one is gonna put correct info on wiki cause no one will look at it, i thought that was thewhole point of wiki, to give info to those in search of it, if people look for running it should say the rules, oh well nevermind.Spark-TBa 18:11, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Guild Wars Wiki:Be bold, but citing/evidence would help. G R E E N E R 18:15, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Firstly, running is not in itself a trade as there is no inherent exchange of goods or services involved. If all you're doing is offering to run people because you feel like it, "Running to Rata Sum" has about as much business in Trade chat as "Dance party by AE1 lower storage." Secondly, no one takes All chat seriously. Yes, spamming and advertising are disallowed, but All chat is so inundated with inanity at the best of times that everything typed there is spam. --Irgendwer 18:55, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

running is classed as a service, thats all i have to say in regards to irgendwer, even anet confirmed it to me.if payment is to be made forthe run then it should be in tradeSpark-TBa 19:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

If payment is to be made for the run then it's a trade. Information about trades belongs in Trade. In fact, it's already there: "It is forbidden to advertise trades in the local channel, and may result in you getting reported for spamming, and your account being suspended." --Irgendwer 19:19, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

thats what ive been saying since the beginning of this post, running for payment should bein trade, if i worded it wrong earlier i appologise but that says exactly what i meant to say  :)Spark-TBa 19:35, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Even so, the wiki is not going to serve as an adequate moral compass for such obscure issues. If you see someone offering runs in all chat, report them. I'll add something to the page if it'll get this conversation to end, but don't expect a miracle from it. --Kyoshi (Talk) 20:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I'd rather the wiki stuck to facts and let players use their judgment to figure out the right course of action. Running is a service. A trade is an exchange of services and/or goods. Trades are to be advertised in Trade chat. People can do the math. Too much specificity will just confuse the issue and lead to arguments between people who go by what's written and people who reason. --Irgendwer 20:28, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, a single GM's ambiguously-worded opinion should not be considered the official word on the matter. GM FruitSnake's response was far from categorical. --Irgendwer 20:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Why can't people compromise on anything? I'm adding a different note that hopefully everyone can agree on......--The Emmisary 21:29, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

ty kyoshi for putting something on main page and i appologise if ive annoyed anyone in this post, i was only trying to stop rule breaking in game but getting abuse back, as far as im concerned with kyoshi putting something on page the subject is closed.Spark-TBa 21:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

top runners

whos the top runners in the game? and is there any pro running guilds out there? because i would like to run better.

96.48.105.14 23:48, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

If you really want to know, many of the top runners chill in Beacon's Perch all day. Go find them there if you want to learn something. As for running guilds, this guild is very experienced but has a strict requirement to join: http://ecrunning.net/. If you want help, simply ask any pro runner in Beacon's Perch and they will usually help you. I can also help you lol. Demonic Sin Ex 03:14, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

- the best runners ive seen are Chaos D Falcon and Super Simbola . both have run me numerous times just by coincidence

Split (Running & Guide to running)

This article has some great stuff, but it covers both what is running and how to do it well; I think it should be split into two parts with minimal overlap. The main article can stick to the basic info and the avoid-scamming advice, while the builds and directions could go into the guide.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 20:59, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Fine by me. The "Guide To Running" article would be very lengthy and I would be contributing massive amounts of valuable information. I say go for it. --Next Top Runner 02:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Current page just needs polishing; its currenty an overview geared towards newer players, as a reference for players looking for runners (or related jargon), and supports the "Team roles and tactics" nav. ^_^ --Falconeye 07:54, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Overhaul, phase 1

I've taken a first step at cleaning up the article:

• I removed anything that smacks of Guide to running, since that topic is best covered elsewhere.
• I moved the long list of common runs to the bottom (before the typical end sections of Notes and See Also) — the section was so long, it hid other information.
• I removed some redundant descriptions.
• I retitled the "types of runs" to "common runs," which better covers the actual content.

I think the article could use another rewrite, e.g. moving the long list of runs to a separate article, perhaps [[Running/Common runs]]. (It's not really helpful to understanding running.) And perhaps we should reconsider the purpose of the article: is it to give an overview of running ? if so, we can remove any details specific to particular runs, except as needed to illustrate ideas. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 09:21, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

In an effort to improve the article I have separated the running concept into the 2 mentioned running categories: running for missions and quests, or running for outposts. I feel that this makes for a more specific informative article on running and the concept of running in general.

So far only the introduction has been changed to reflect this.66.135.236.42 00:57, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Continued with edits, added content to expand the "paying for runs" section and moved the "similar terms" by "notes". Should the similar terms be merged with "notes" or "see also"?

To do -

• Update the "common rapid travel runs" section with more runs (if needed)
• Make a "common rapid completion runs" section with all common mission and quest runs as illustrated in the next listing
• Update "notes", revise where the similar terms should be

List of popular rapid completion runs: MOVED to Rapid completion runs discussion

• Popular Mission runs: imperial sanctum, ruins of morah, gate of abbadon, iron mines of moladune infusion, a time for heroes
• Runnable Missions: the great northern wall, bloodstone fen w/ bonus, aurora glade w/ bonus, , gyala hatchery, unwaking waters, venta cemetery, dzagonur bastion, grand court of sebelkeh, jennur's horde, gate of madness
• Quest runs: horde of darkness

Please update the list with what missions or (popular/primary) quests which you know have a runner / running party for quicker completion. I suggest that until we get critical mass with sufficient rapid completion runs, that we don't update the main page. Also lets have the discussion here for what should be a run and what shouldn't be in the above list. cross out what you think shouldn't be and give the explanation as to why here, don't delete please.66.135.236.42 19:13, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Also, I agree with TEF, common runs should be separated from this page, but in lieu of the sections, there should be a short description of each type of running, rapid completion or rapid travel - suggested to say something to the effect "Running for rapid travel involves use of IMS and preventing of snares, body blocks, and efficient pathing" expanding on that, also "running for rapid completion involves use of specialized builds, tanking, dealing specific types of damage, casting specific spells" expanding on that.66.135.236.42 19:55, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Overhaul, phase 2

Hey any admins can do the following: Delete the entire common rapid travel runs as they are now there > Rapid travel runs. Thanks!66.135.236.42 18:37, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks that was fast, entire common rapid travel is now separated. 66.135.236.42 18:54, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Last revert

I'd suggest:

• Running is considered a trade by ArenaNet, because there will usually be a trade of money or goods at some point. Therefore the best place to advertise in the Party Search panel would be in Trade Chat.

Although I can't find the source at the moment I'm pretty sure it was one of the anet staff commenting on the wiki. File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 20:28, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

it wasnt posted on wiki by anet, it was sent to me in an email by a GM, was already agreed by wiki users to be put on the page in one form or another and was on there before the page clean up. fair enough if you dont see it fit that a service should now be placed in trade chat, that isnt up to me to decide after all, but if its not the right place, could a service be removed from the trade page.Spark-TBa 09:13, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

broken link?

im not sure if its just me but the link GWRunning Wiki in the see also section seems to not lead anywhere and would like someone else to confirm before changing the page incase its just my PC,Spark-TBa 21:26, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Name change

You asked if it was appropriate to change "destination running" to "outpost running", but nobody was talking about this page. Running missions etc is very frequent and now you're excluding that completely. I'd suggest changing this page back to just "Running", since it covers all types of runs in a big picture. Jeree95 (talk) 20:31, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

As was pointed out by Jeree, "Running" is a far larger idea than just getting to a place, and we're not going to get philosophical about this one ;). G R E E N E R 20:54, 11 March 2017 (UTC)