User talk:Poke/archive/2010.2

From Guild Wars Wiki
Jump to navigationJump to search
Archive This page is an archive. Please do not edit the content of this page. Add additional comments here instead.

Wikichu, go! Wikichu, use your [...]

[...] !mlia! Critical hit! It's super effective! Wild bad mood fainted!
Hi!
Could you please post a list of wikichu irc commands pretty please? Thanks bunches. ♥ User Raine R.gif is for Raine, etc. 09:31, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually there are not many, except wiki link expansion and URL check: !tpl <templatecode>, !build <templatecode>, !g , !mlia, !fml, !time and !kickme. But if you have a good idea, I might add it. poke | talk 17:05, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
You should make a !bash one that gets bash.org quotes...=P -- My Talk Lacky 23:08, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
I have said often enough that that would be a bad idea given that bash are IRC quotes themselves. Quoting IRC on IRC is cluttery as hell. poke | talk 23:10, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

can you explain how

this image and this image are considered duplicates (by MW)? and why this page is showing the wrong picture >.> (i've cleared my cache =p). ~ PheNaxKian User PheNaxKian sig.jpg 20:07, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

They look identical to me... poke | talk 20:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
odd, to me and everyone (who's talking) on IRC they're different =s. ~ PheNaxKian User PheNaxKian sig.jpg 20:14, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Sometimes you need to purge the server cache. Click on the time on the top of the page. --SharkinuUser Sharkinu sig.png 20:20, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
we tried that. Riddles revert has fixed it (as in we're seeing the "correct" image and revisions now). ~ PheNaxKian User PheNaxKian sig.jpg 20:21, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Finding where a specific template parameter is used?

I know that DPL can find pages that use a specific template, IIRC the 'uses' parameter does that. However, what will generate a list of pages where the template is used and a particular one of its PARAMETERS is non-blank? --Max 2 06:43, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Just drop the results into a sortable table. Bam! done. --JonTheMon 12:20, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
So DPL, by itself, can't do the job. but can be used to build a tool that can do it. A bit indirect and it will display a bunch of extraneous information in the process, but doable. Useful technique.. Mildly complex to implement. Would making a template to do it be worth while? --Max 2 14:01, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
DPL itself is a bit too complex to make it possible to encapsulate it in a template without restricting it too much. It might work for things like skill tables (as those have quite fixed layout, and are following a basic idea), but I disadvise to do it for everything else. Also just checking a template for its parameter usage is not as complex as it sounds. The only disadvantage in using DPL for it is that only 500 pages can be checked. This means that if there are 1000 pages where every 2nd has the parameter in question set, only 250 can be displayed (because the parameter check is performed after the selection gets the first 500 pages).
However this is not really an issue in most cases. Either the template is not used that much at all, or you can split the list into multiple subsections by using already available categories. That way you would add selection criterias that apply before the 500 page limit (or you could even limit the selection alphabetically by only selection A-M and N-Z etc).
Anyway, with your recent wish to check the Standard prerequisites template for the parameters, you could easily do it like this:
{{ #dpl: format = ,,, | secseparators = ²{#if:,¦¶*[[%PAGE%]]}²
| uses = Template:Standard prerequisites
| include = {Standard prerequisites}:locked }}
This will get all pages that use the template and check if the paramter locked is used. Only matching pages are then listed.
You could then also incoperate multiple template parameters into a table to show some kind of check list with all parameters next to each others. If you need help with that, please tell me and I can give you an example. poke | talk 18:29, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

DPL

moved from User talk:Pling

Does it require a category? Or in other words, can you use it without the need of categories? →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 15:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

No, it doesn't need categories. It has multiple different selection criterias and category is just one of them. poke | talk 15:29, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Say.. is there a way to pick out everything that is created beyond the page. For example, Echo/%? →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 23:00, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes, use the titlematch parameter with exactly that value poke | talk 23:40, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
So basically, it's the same thing as those skill tables? Cool. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 00:23, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, the skill table template just maps most optional parameters 1:1 to DPL parameters. poke | talk 13:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Well, I have another question, does it require templates to work? →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 17:32, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Huh, what do you mean? poke | talk 19:19, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
The uses = Template:skill infobox line for example. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 20:01, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
see here for how to use it. That's the best place to find out. DPL can make lists through various things (inc. page titles, cats. templates, includes and you can even use Regular expressions). ~ PheNaxKian User PheNaxKian sig.jpg 21:46, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah... it's not working for me. I still don't understand any of this, like I've been trying out different things and nothing seems to be working very well. This page still says None. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 18:48, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

The namespace is only User, and the titlematch shouldn't include the namespace. poke | talk 18:59, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
And after that it provides a wrong username. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 19:07, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
But that's not because of the DPL selection but because of the stupid copy/pasted format of the feedback suggestions.. poke | talk 19:19, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Lol, I'm learning. Chill :P →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 04:58, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

I understand most of how the format works, but I still do get a few things. Like, I read here about all of the commands and how they work and etc, but I still don't get the whole thing behind the commas and using the broken bar instead of the solid one. Can you just fix it completely up and I can learn from there? →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 21:40, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

you're going to run into issues if i'm looking at your table correctly. You're wanting both the last person that edited the given page, and the first (the Author)? You can't have that (as far as i'm aware, given you can't have both "addauthor" and "addlasteditor" can't be used in the same query). ~ PheNaxKian User PheNaxKian sig.jpg 22:13, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
How about just last editor? →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 06:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Skill infobox

Do you remember an old project you had with Anja to consoldate some paameters into an 'availability' fieled. Or something like that, Detail escape me. What happened to that? I've been sort of missing it lately. Backsword 19:28, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Uhm, I don't remember an availability parameter.. The only thing Anja and I were doing was thinking about a complete skill and effect structure to put everything together in a completely new structure. It's possible that we wanted to change something on availability with that step, but I don't really remember anything like that, sorry. poke | talk 19:43, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes, the availability would cover what special does now and more, so that's it. Do you still have any of the sandbox stuff? Backsword 19:57, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, all that stuff is still available here. And you're right, there is something about availability! The draft infobox of that state also has some implementation of that parameter, but I don't really remember how complete that state was. But maybe it's a help for you :) poke | talk 20:07, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
It is. Thanks for that. I'll take a closer look later, when I have time/energy. Backsword 20:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Can I please....

Swipe some of the tango icons you did (the policy ones in particular)? I will give you credit.... Or, alternately, will you upload them to TO for us to use? -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 00:05, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to use them, they are GFDL after all ;) poke | talk 07:35, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
I just wanted to make sure you were cool with it, I thought it only polite to ask :D -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 09:18, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit window

I first ran this by Wyn who suggested I ask you; "Sorry to bother you, but when i edited my signature in "My Preferences", now my edit window is narrow field now. the setting for it is 4 x 4 what can be done to restore to full width? Thank you"Elementalist-icon.png MystiLefemEleTalk 12:30, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Default size for the edit field is 25 rows and 80 columns. If changing that doesn't help, try the "restore all default settings" option. poke | talk 12:34, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
The 25 x 80 worked fine, Thank you again.MystiLefemEle 12:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Template talk:Standard prerequisites

Could you weigh in on the changes that are being proposed? For the DPL related section, I think they are trying to make this display box into an infobox (that it contains comprehensive information that is redundant to the quest infobox). For the lowest section, well, I'm not as aware of the limitations of the wiki as you are. --JonTheMon 12:35, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

helpin me on links

hey poke, I screwed myself over on my talk, how do i fix the links in my editing section? thx if u fix em for me :) --User The Scythe Has Fallen Sig.pngThe Scythe Has Fallen Ω|Ω talk Ω|Ω 00:15, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

btw, if at all possible, i would like to preserve the internal link side of them, and/or change the color from the external light blue to the internal blue, look @ them as light blue & is difficult to read on gray. Also, would it be possible to have the page background as black? cuz i looked @ it as black and section headers weren't visible ;( --User The Scythe Has Fallen Sig.pngThe Scythe Has Fallen Ω|Ω talk Ω|Ω 00:29, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I fixed it for you. In general to link to non wiki pages, you have to specify a full url to the page. In case of wiki related actions, you can use {{fullurl:pagename|parameters}} to automatically generate the correct url. In your case {{fullurl:User talk:The Scythe Has Fallen|action=edit}} creates a link to your page with the action=edit parameter. When I changed the links first, it was really hard to see them on the dark background, so I added something else. class="hiddenlinks" in the surrounding div prevents the links inside from changing their text colors to blue, so you can simply change the colors the way you want (the other option would be to surround the link text with span elements). Note however that you shouldn't do that for bigger blocks, as there is a good reasoning behind all links using the same color, so you shouldn't do that for all of the talk page content. Instead, you should rather tune the background color a bit, so it's more readable.
Oh, and you can also add the class "plainlinks" to the div, if you want that external link icon to disappear. poke | talk 07:57, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
hmm ic ty, btw is there any way to make the section headers red aswell? i kinda want all my pages 2 have black backgrounds so... --User The Scythe Has Fallen Sig.pngThe Scythe Has Fallen Ω|Ω talk Ω|Ω 00:27, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

"There's not enough time!!"

MediaWiki table code thinks the two exclamation marks in the skill name are cell dividers. Will mess up any table it's in. any ideas on how to fix this (in a non kludgy way)? Backsword 12:38, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Two possibilities: Either just use normal cell syntax (using |, not header cells !), or simply use pure html for it: <th>"There's not enough time!!"</th>. poke | talk 14:04, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Please add

Feedback talk:Joey Knight to the Alternate user talk list. Thanks! -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 07:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

done. poke | talk 15:33, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Furst

Meh.So,how'r you,poke? --Neil2250 , Portal Jumper User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 18:45, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Uhm..

Why are you removing deletes from redundent pictures? --Neil2250 User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 11:08, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Because they are not redundant? poke | talk 11:09, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
File:Aggressive binding spirit.jpg, File:Defensive binding spirit.jpg
i think you will find they are.--Neil2250 User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 11:12, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
They are not redundant as long as there are pages linking to them.. poke | talk 11:16, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Uhm,they dont? --Neil2250 User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 11:17, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Neil, they kinda do. File:Binding Guardian.jpg doesn't though. Shadow Runner 11:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Please tell me where these are, ive cleaned up everything i can see :/ --Neil2250 User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 11:22, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Just click "What links here" in the toolbox. poke | talk 11:30, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Ive removed (or swapped) everything within that page. is it alright now?--Neil2250 User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 11:35, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

User Merge

"Delete old user (NOTE: do not select this option!)" - What? I'm so tempted to do horrible things that I am told not to with no explanation just to see what happens. Do you know what will happen before I blow up the wiki? Misery 19:49, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

It will completely mess up with GWW's and GW2W's userbase being combined, as the deletion is just performed on one wiki but not the other. So just don't do it. poke | talk 19:54, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Misery, I thought you were a horse...not a chicken. Do it! :P — Gares 19:56, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Aren't you glad that they gave us another tool we could use to destroy the world Gares? Misery 20:17, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
You betcha. You can never have enough doomsday devices. — Gares 02:15, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
I think poke's working on a big red button in his supernew GWWT2. -- pling User Pling sig.png 16:07, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Didn't really decide on the color yet though.. poke | talk 14:08, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Logs

Is it possible to get a sort of notification any time a certain log is updated, like Special:Log/newusers? WhyUser talk:Why 01:05, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

(Jumping in): From what i know, no, not unless you have a script to just look every so often. (Say every 30 seconds while youre on here, or etc) User DimeCadmium sig.jpgDime Cadmium! 01:09, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:(
Thanks. WhyUser talk:Why 01:13, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
This actually reminds me of my RC watcher tool that floated in my head for quite a while (a GWWT-related desktop client)... poke | talk 14:08, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

User name limit

Is there a way to turn down the username size limit? --JonTheMon 03:58, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Oops, just posted something on GWWT:RFTA with the same question. Serves me right for not checking my whole watchlist first :P. (It's better there anyway, I guess... or that can be my excuse.) -- pling User Pling sig.png 14:23, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Responded there. poke | talk 14:08, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

So a user walks onto Poke's talkpage and demands a favor...

Hey Poke, is there some simple way to exclude certain actions (like...I dunno...user creation and blocking) from recent changes? Thanks in advance. Vili 点 User talk:Vili 02:06, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

If you invert-sort by User namespace, it should eliminate those. --JonTheMon 02:15, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
You could also use the RC cleaner script that still should be somewhere on this wiki; although it might need some modification to work for the log entries.. But then again, it will just remove the entries, so at worst, your RC will be completely empty.. poke | talk 14:08, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Your reminder

Featured Article needs changing tomorrow. -- Konig/talk 10:32, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Haha, thanks :D poke | talk 14:08, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
*sees that the Guide to Hard Mode is still up* Am I going to send you multiple pokes to you now? :P -- Konig/talk 20:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
He's too busy watching E3, come back later :D Shadow Runner 20:30, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry :P poke | talk 20:58, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

IRC

Would you be so kind as to tell me how to connect to gamesurge >>? ~ PheNaxKian User PheNaxKian sig.jpg 17:13, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Set your client to connect to 195.68.206.250/6667 rather than irc.gamesurge.net/6667. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 17:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Spanish Shadow

her signature contains 2 images, and she will NOT listen and remove one of them, isnt this illegal, and if so can u talk sense into her (sysops) thx --The Scythe User The Scythe Has Fallen Sig2.png Has Fallen 20:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

You could explain everything and say I have discussed with proofs, not like you, that it isn't said anywhere: "Two images are not allowed". And don't forget mentioning how you and your friend menace me with "use of force" and so on. And.... menacing other users IS ILLEGAL --User Spanish Shadow Lara2.pngSpanish ShadowUser Spanish Shadow Lara2.png 21:11, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Keep it on one page please. Reaper of Scythes** User Reaper of ScythesJuggernaut1.png 21:12, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for not responding yesterday, I was quite busy. By now it seems that Why has taken care of it. poke | talk 16:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Wanted by the Shining Blade

On the talk for this page, Someone has noted that the quest list is out of order. Would you know how to re-organize the quests to display in the proper order? Wyn said something about putting something in the DPL to make it so.--Neithan DiniemUser Talk:Neithan Diniem 00:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

"The quests are listed here in order of first appearance" - It does exactly what it says. poke | talk 06:55, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
True, but several quests should have appeared before they actually did, due to the reset and following correction. If you think its fine as-is then Ill just go with that then.--Neithan DiniemUser Talk:Neithan Diniem 18:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Who else will poke Poke?

Just your friendly feature project reminder. Needs changin for the Dragon Festival. Next up is Rollerbeetle (should be in the "next" page). -- Konig/talk 05:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, it's that time again? :o Thanks. :) poke | talk 06:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Usually, no, since we decided to go by 3 weeks for normal features. But this was meant for the Dragon Festival which is starting this weekend. As such, getting it up before the event, and having it last 2 weeks (maybe 3?), before switching it again. -- Konig/talk 07:13, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Mind changing the image to the .png? :) –User Balistic B d-dark.pngalistic 16:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
I do mind, but did it anyway. poke | talk 16:55, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Plural

Me no understandie, it's for one seat, how would there be more than one "winner"? User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K When Needed 06:57, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

The stages are named after the exact description in the policy. And the policy was made to be able to work with multiple winners. poke | talk 07:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Ah, thanks for the response. User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K When Needed 07:04, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
This is one of those cases where policy > common sense. User Raine R.gif is for Raine, etc. 01:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

bot

Just checking, did you notice http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=Guild_Wars_Wiki%3AProjects%2FEditing_bots&diff=2062836&oldid=1992548? --Xeeron 13:32, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I noticed it, but forget it then; sorry, I'll make sure to do it this weekend. poke | talk 15:33, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Sorry Xeeron, I'll try to do it this evening :/ poke | talk 07:39, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

How do I?

How do the internal links work? I know the external links are easy [www.example.com SOMETHING].. but how do I make the internal ones? --Runningbaka 00:39, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

[[ and ]] -Auron 01:00, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Your reminder (2)

Yay for not having to make a new section! *pokes* Featured needs changing. -- Konig/talk 01:17, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh.. Do you mind if I move your comment to a new section then? :/ poke | talk 07:38, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Not really - just figured that you can archive both of these at the same time. And it would save room on your talk page in both visual size (though maybe not with this comment) and file size (again, not with this comment). -- Konig/talk 19:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks ^^ poke | talk 19:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Spamlist Request

Surprised no one has requested it earlier. Good timing to implement. — Gares 21:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Here's hoping Arenanet do it. Shadow Runner 21:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Emily has already submitted an emergency ticket to get it done. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 21:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Fantastic :D Shadow Runner 21:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
"The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to a blacklisted external site.". It should be quiet now. poke | talk 22:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
And we can expand it aswell? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 22:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
only admins can add to the blacklist (it's a page in the mediawiki namespace). But yes, admins can add to it as required. ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Websites containing pornographic material would be the first that comes to mind :S
We don't need the links to anything like that in here. And i made a stupid test about that on my page -.- So, Poke or any other admin, if you could... - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 22:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
I would prefer if we keep the blacklist as short as possible as every line in there can potentially slow the wiki down. poke | talk 05:22, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
whenever you get back, put Talk:Sentient Roots this stuff on there. -Auron 10:53, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Ok. poke | talk 12:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Captcha

Is there a reason that we're using the default captcha for ConfirmEdit and not one of the stronger versions of it? --JonTheMon 00:30, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Not that I know of.. How to make it harder then? poke | talk 05:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Captcha_extensions#Captcha -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 05:54, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Do you have any objections to using reCAPTCHA? While SpamBlacklist has stopped the current link spamming threat, it has not stopped the constant user creations. — Gares 13:07, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
I have responded on the RFTA talk page. poke | talk 13:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Saw that — Gares 13:10, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Poke.

Good job. ^__^ --User Oneshot O.JPGneshot. moo. 22:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

The wiki defences are down!

Save us wiki god! Shadow Runner 22:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Haha nvm, nice one! Shadow Runner 22:48, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
wake up the other sysops. W need more active ones. O.o The Emmisary 22:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
This would be a non-issue, except the reCaptcha request had been put on the back burner to be "discussed". Poke has blocked all immediate url spams from occurring. There will be a few extras to attend too. The automated user creation is just an unadvoidable annoyance at this point in time. — Gares 23:04, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, it's a bit annoying.. :/ poke | talk 23:47, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
gg on the rest though. im waiting until they burn through every letter number combonation in the wiki :D, Also, one question, how many letters(or numbers) are you aloud in your username?--Neil2250 User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 08:55, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
How many do you need?[1]--SharkinuUser Sharkinu sig.png 09:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Im asking whats the maximum you can have... and how many users there were on the wiki until those ad'bots attacked... i need to run some mathmatical thoughts through my head. --Neil2250 User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 09:24, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Ok, how long will it take the bot to burn through around 325409380874538449882369153677695 (true number) users? --Neil2250 User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 09:37, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Due to the Eavil attacks, the username limit was recently lowered to 32 characters. Accounts created before still exist though, iirc. Shadow Runner 10:07, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
32 possible base-10 numerical characters only results in 100 nonillion possible usernames (that is, 1 followed by 33 zeroes). Assuming an attack every 1 second continuously and one attack per account, it would take... approximately 3.1 septillion years to exhaust them all, itself equal to more than 225 trillion times the estimated age of the universe since the Big Bang, 13.7 billion years. Adjusting the bot to include an additional 52 alphabetical characters, counting capitals, would considerably increase the base duration by changing the beginning from base-10 to base-62, which produces a number so large that expressing it in any way other than 62^32 would be exhausting. In any case, I think we can fairly assume the attacks will not cease due to a username limit.–Jette 10:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Jette, ever gone in a maths contest with someone called einstein? --Neil2250 User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 10:23, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Einstein wasn't a mathematician, I don't see why he would go into a math contest. –Jette 10:24, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
If we want the vandals to use every letter and number combination still available, how new contributors can get their usernames? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:18, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Actually, the username is limited to 32 bytes. That makes a theoretical number of ~116 duodecilliard (=116 with 75 zeros) possibilities.. Of course it is a bit less as some characters are either not visible or directly disallowed by the wiki. poke | talk 16:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Maybe it's too harsh, but I would like to suggest to stop any new user creation until the Captcha will have been significantly fortified. --Slavic 07:33, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
^?^ No, just no Slavic. These bots are not doing anything but clogging the RC, which, for RC lurkers, can be annoying, but it's ultimately not harmful to the wiki. While it's occurring, there is some additional strain on the servers, but it's not going to take that long for the captcha to be strengthened... I believe the request is pretty much ready to go to Anet (right poke?) and since Emily is aware of this problem, I'm sure it will be dealt with speedily. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 08:22, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
But! What if (and I think this is a big if), someone wants to use the names currently being created by the bot? I find it silly that usernames cannot be deleted if created by a bot or something. Slightly off topic, but also slightly on topic. -- Konig/talk 08:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
I'd imagine that user merge can be used on two of the bot accounts to get rid of the desired one, and the user can just make it then. -Auron 08:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Personally, I think that given the number of available usernames as calculated above, people will not have a problem finding a username. They will get the same message anyone else does who wants to use a name that has previously been registered, and move to something else. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 09:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
The bot is making account names that are frankly gibberish. If someone is willing to make a username like that, then they'd find it all to easy to make another one. It shouldn't present a problem at all. Shadow Runner 09:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
No Auron, we cannot free any username. Usermerge has the ability, but we can't use it here. So once taken, a username is reserved forever. poke | talk 09:46, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Why can't you use it here? — Raine Valen User Raine R.gif 17:30, 27 Jul 2010 (UTC)
That's a good question. User merge should only affect the wiki that it is used on, unless GW2Wiki and GWWiki are tied and it would cause problems. There is a maintenance script, removeUnusedAccounts.php, that will remove user names that have not posted any contributions at all, but it's not selective iirc. It removes all user names that satisfy the conditions and it wouldn't be feasible in the first place. — Gares 17:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
They are. That's why if you register on one wiki you don't have to register on the other. ~ PheNaxKian talk 18:05, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Why would merging and subsequently removing (via the maintenance script) the bot accounts on both wikis be a bad thing? — Raine Valen User Raine R.gif 18:14, 27 Jul 2010 (UTC)
As Gares said, that isn't selective - you'd be getting rid of more than just the bots. As to why UserMerge can't be used to delete accounts, see User talk:Poke/archive#User Merge. Anyway, I also don't think there's a need to remove the bot accounts. -- pling User Pling sig.png 18:25, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, PheNaxKian, that was supposed to read, "unless "GW2Wiki and GWWiki are tied" and&& "it would cause problems."" I still had a brain fart in public regarding it though.
It's a lot more simple to just use a non-reserved name just like it is in games, forums, and other wikis, considering the number of "real looking" bot names are rare. — Gares 19:00, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Note that that maintenance script won't work for the same reasons. poke | talk 22:41, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

irc

you wouldnt mind giving me a link to the GWW IRC Channel would you? before i cba to bookmark it and i cant get the address right >_< --The Scythe User The Scythe Has Fallen Sig2.png Has Fallen 15:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

irc://irc.gamesurge.net/gww Shadow Runner 15:39, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thx --The Scythe User The Scythe Has Fallen Sig2.png Has Fallen 17:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

wikichu

did he die or sumtin? he hasnt been on irc at all lately... --The Scythe User The Scythe Has Fallen Sig2.png Has Fallen 17:24, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Pikachu knocked him out. Apparently Server-type pokemon are weak to electricity. –Jette 17:33, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
what about mudkipz? couldnt that've got him all wet? --The Scythe User The Scythe Has Fallen Sig2.png Has Fallen 20:17, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
The server Wikichu is running on is sometimes rebooted so the running process is closed (well, I at least believe that it is a reboot, but it also might be some mechanism to stop long running processes after some time). At least I usually restart it by hand. Given that I'm currently not coming into IRC myself, I simply didn't notice. I'll restart it later (if I remember). poke | talk 22:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
ic, well we miss our ! commands for wikichu ;\ whenever you get around to it though, dont rush for me :) --The Scythe User The Scythe Has Fallen Sig2.png Has Fallen 22:49, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

copyvio

If I remember correctly, somebody bitched to Cursed Angel for having a Pokemon in binary? I don't remember very well but however, User:Nalana_Darkling/Piplup →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 17:54, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I regret to inform you that that is not binary. Piplup in binary would be 010100000110100101110000011011000111010101110000. User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 19:58, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Is that ASCII or UTF-8? –Jette 01:14, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
That's ASCII. User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 02:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
It's rather both.. because ASCII is a subset of Unicode in the UTF8 charset.. Also Felix, that binary string totally depends on encoding. This is a Piplup too: 1.. At least in my PIE (Piplup Image Encoding). poke | talk 11:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
what would say...1011 in PIE then =p? ~ PheNaxKian talk 12:57, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Piplup, not a Piplup, Piplup, Piplup. Obviously. poke | talk 14:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Ah, makes sense =p. ~ PheNaxKian talk 14:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
I dare you to write a Piplupating System with that. User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 15:28, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

A new reminder

It's time! It's time! -- Konig/talk 12:13, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

done :D poke | talk 14:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

GWWT

moved to User talk:Poke/GuildWarsWikiTools#GWWT

Nicholas_Sandford/Research/archive

Dear poke, after splitting Nicholas Research archve now "Previous appearance" is broken. Could you pleases fix it or shall we undo splitting? Pino 13:17, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I have fixed the statistics but won't do anything about the previous appearance on the archive page. The whole system will be replaced within the next two weeks to make that redundant. poke | talk 16:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
thank you for the nice and quick response Pino 09:07, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Categories

I was wondering if Wikichu was omniscient to the point of seeing which categories are added by infoboxes, such as Prophecies + Collector adding Category:Prophecies collectors to an NPC's page. If so, could it also search the page for repeated categories which have been hard-coded, and remove them? G R E E N E R 09:40, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

It's not omniscient, but it definitely knows how to find that out. I'll see what I can do. poke | talk 21:37, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

seriusly

you shouldv mentioned it before i never got teh info bout it cuz was logged in sinc sunday ):< 127.0.0.1 09:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't really think of it either. But you really should look at some official places (or even fansites) from time to time ^^ poke | talk 15:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Better late than never

Meant to prod you yesterday but I was overly distracted with first day of classes. Time to change the featured article! -- Konig/talk 17:43, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

:) Thanks poke | talk 21:36, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Quick question as per this: Would it be possible to have a set auto-cycle for the featured articles? I would think it is possible, but no where near certain, hence why I'm asking. -- Konig/talk 22:03, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
It would be possible, but you'd still need to set the page to be featured manually since they're being nominated rather than selected randomly or something. –Jette 22:12, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Actually, it's starting to look like we won't get many more new features, so it'll be selected randomly/in order of a section of articles (those which have been accepted), with few - if any - additions once we get a few more (I'm hoping to get 9 more accepted articles, at least, so we have a flat 52 articles - one per week for an entire year before restarting). If new articles are found, nominated, and accepted the code can simply be altered to feature that article next (while keeping the holiday articles in place?). Or so is my hope. -- Konig/talk 22:53, 24 August 2010 (UTC)