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Wikichu

Seems to be a little behind on the wiki news. — Jon Lupen 00:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Meh, that's what you get from having two sources where you edit independently.. Fixed bug one on source #1 but forgot that I disabled the statistics on source #2; and then replaced #2 with #1 :D poke | talk 00:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

You just spammed my watchlist! :| -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 00:48, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

*are spamming -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 00:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but that was Wyn's request. :P poke | talk 00:51, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

The worst part is you singled me out by spamming my watchlist but not RC. I hate you now. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 00:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Atleast you aren't using Bobby Tables as a source. :) Or are you? O_o — Jon Lupen 00:54, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

What are Bobby Tables? :O poke | talk 01:15, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Armond. Just trying to get stuff cleaned up for when the feedback space goes live, and those redirects were no longer necessary. -- Wyn talk 01:17, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

→ [1] Vili 点 01:17, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Shh, don't apologize. I'll have to stop giving Poke grief if you do. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 01:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Lol Vili :D poke | talk 01:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, someone got what I was going at. — Jon Lupen 01:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

meh

You must think I'm a serious idiot if you really thought that's what I was talking about. -- Wyn talk 10:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, my crystal ball is broken.. poke | talk 10:39, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

User:Wynthyst/Feedback things to do on go! lot's of stuff needs to be protected when the space goes live to stop all further additions. -- Wyn talk 10:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Question....

Panic and Business has been the bane of the wiki for a while, but is Special:Upload still on the list? (If I'm annoiyng, block me for a week and I'll shut up). >< -- Wandering Traveler 05:02, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's still on my list. An update will come soon. poke | talk 15:30, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Twitter feed

This is more a question as to how the twitter feed works than a critique, but, today's note about the weekend event came through with a spelling error (competetive vs. competitive). Is that not generated from the activities page? Tanetris spelled it correctly when he updated the page. -- FreedomBound 14:45, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for that! Didn't notice this morning :)

And no, the weekend event is not automatically generated from somewhere else, as I tend to put more information in the tweet if I can. So I edit that manually. poke | talk 15:29, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Archived

Unresponded. :( - Tanetris 15:42, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I currently have no good idea how to solve that efficiently. Also I talked to you about this on IRC already :P poke | talk 15:45, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

While we didn't come to any meaningful conclusion on the archiving, there are also the other two issues I brought up there: handling predictions so we don't have to edit every day, and pulling zcoin rewards automaticaly. - Tanetris 16:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

That is actually what I was referring to. poke | talk 16:18, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

The data is not available to DPL since it's not in a template. If the text has been copied verbatime, a regexp should have no problem tho', so I guess poke's bot may be able to do it. But poke would know that better than me. Backsword 10:19, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Google thing

The google gadgets are rss feeds, but for some reason when I go to the gw2 site for it, it wants to download something and let IE give me the info, instead of putting on my google page. I've tried searching for GW2 through google's rss search, but it doesn't come up, while the GW1 version does, that's really what I'm asking to have changed. I don't know, maybe I'm missing something, I can't say I know a lot about rss feeds... (Satanael 03:05, 3 September 2009 (UTC))

This is the feed URL: http://www.guildwars2.com/en/rss.xml poke | talk 10:43, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I figured it out, I had seen that, but it took me a second to figure out how to tell my google page about it. Thanks (Satanael 15:21, 4 September 2009 (UTC))

Feedback:User

You're making it look a lot better, thank you.-- anguard 15:52, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank Pling for having unappeasable desire for more and more information.. :P poke | talk 15:54, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

xD-- anguard 16:01, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't care about the information, it just pleases me to see poke doing whatever the hell I tell him. Hopefully it'll ease him into following some more.. extreme instructions.... -- Brains12 \ talk 16:03, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I lol'd.-- anguard 16:06, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Looks good guys, but for some reason the first table has got some No's showing up randomly... (Satanael 16:24, 4 September 2009 (UTC))

Doesn't look random, looks like it's when the most recent editor is not the owner... Not sure if that's intended, but it's kind of nice. -- FreedomBound 16:27, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Yep, that's the intention. poke | talk 16:36, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Huh, okay, that seems like something useful. Myabe just add a short couple of sentences at the top saying what they are and why they are there, so people know right away without having to figure it out (as obviously I was incapable of doing anyway) (Satanael 16:41, 4 September 2009 (UTC))

Can you change the alt text to "not the owner", or (preference) have it in a different column so you could sort on it? -- FreedomBound 16:42, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I think that was the original intention seeing that it was in an extra column but since the sorting obviously doesn't work on Template Usage / Images it got merged with the other column. --SilentStorm 16:57, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Alternative category

Hey poke, I noticed a little bug with our lists. Whenever the list shows the "alternative category", what it's showing is the "category B" from our creation template rather than whatever category is not represented by the list. So, for example, if you go to Feedback:Guild Wars 2 mechanics suggestions, there are 3 suggestions that list "mechanics" as their alternative category, rather than whatever other category the creator chose for those suggestions. I'm not sure how easy this would be to fix, but I thought it would be nice if we can. (Satanael 20:50, 4 September 2009 (UTC))

I know that, and I'm still thinking of a good way to solve that. As soon as I have a good idea I'll change the lists and the background templates to display it correctly. For now we will just have to live with it, sorry. poke | talk 20:54, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

That's okay, I just wanted to make sure you were aware of it before the lists got too long, in case the number of entries under the current setting becomes an issue. (Satanael 20:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC))

Well, it only affects the content in the alternative category; otherwise all lists are showing the correct entries, so it will be a rather stealthy update later :) poke | talk 20:59, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

He he, you'll be like the Solid Snake of wikis :P (Satanael 21:01, 4 September 2009 (UTC))

AI Bugs

Hey Poke. Are you going to move the work in progress from the bugs page over to the new namespace? Would be kind of a big help, since so many things have not yet been resolved. I sure am not the only one looking at a blank bug page now, wondering if we have to manually copy all the old things over, cause I fear nothing of the old work will get done if we don't move it to an open space. In case you're wondering, all in progress is not marked red X or green hook. --Golgarit Raven 07:21, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

you can't copy it over because the licensing is different, the old page will stay where it is and get issues resolved still, in a similar manner to what the Devs. are doing with their talk pages. ~ PheNaxKian 10:29, 5 September 2009

Yes, the bug team will still visit the old pages and make sure they go through all open points. poke | talk 12:25, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

The staff is fully aware of the existing bugs, that's why there is a link to them from the open page so you can still view them. -- Wyn talk 12:28, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh well, ok then.. as long as they can hook off the old ones or get questions answered that they may have about the reports.. ^^ --Golgarit Raven 12:33, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

If they have more questions regarding existing reports, the conversations can continue on the current bug talk page. Simply link to the existing issue. The old pages have been protected from further edits from the community. -- Wyn talk 12:39, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

/wave

Hi poke! — Seru Talk 22:12, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey Seru! Long time no see, where were you? poke | talk 22:12, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Scuba diving and playing the battlefield games mostly. — Seru Talk 22:18, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Sounds fun, too, but good to see you back :) poke | talk 22:20, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I know right? Time for me to mess up code and mess with the cache for useless userpage stuff — Seru Talk 22:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Skill data

It seems some parameters sent to skill data get carried over to later calls on the same page. See User:Shard/Sandbox for an example. ~Shard 00:12, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

is borked. If you use adr mode, it carries the adr defaults over to every call after. I suspect upkeep and health are the same, but too lazy to test and shard's being unhelpful. I've reverted the noobish templates to what they were before until you can fix this (the rest of us have no idea wtf is in that code). -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 00:25, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm so unhelpful that I accidentally fixed it by myself without Armond's help. ~Shard 01:18, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry for that. Btw. Shard, why didn't you tell me yesterday that you wanted it bold and zero values not ignored? <_< poke | talk 07:52, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

He did tell you he wanted zero values unignored, but I overruled him because that's dumb. Bold I don't recall ever coming up in conversation. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 16:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Also, wikichu isn't transforming N/A arguments to nil. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 16:25, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Huh? So you didn't get how the replacement was done after all? Also what N/A arguments?? poke | talk 17:45, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Cleave, Thrill of Victory. Also, Shard's the only one on wiki who wanted zero values not ignored, so he's the one who changed it. It was fine for "the rest of us". -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 18:01, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, we should decide on something then.. Also Shard can fix his N/As himself.. poke | talk 18:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I can and will. People should be able to use explicit zeroes. It comes in handy when suggestion a certain skill's recharge or cast time be 0 when it normally isn't. You can still always omit a value by ignoring it. Allowing 0s gives it more functionality at no cost. ~Shard 08:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Deleting EA, EAR, etc

Kind of hard to pick one place to put this, but I'd like to oppose the deletion of all those templates because they are far more intuitive than Template:Skill data. Misery 11:57, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

The only thing that makes those templates better is the length of their names, but that could be easily done for the new one as well.. And it's really not intuitive at all to have to remember 9 ambigous template names that are all for one thing, on a wiki which main idea is not to post skill data in that way... poke | talk 17:50, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Except they all follow a logical layout that I don't even have to look up. I would have to read the documentation in order to use the all inclusive template. That is the point, the intuitive nature of those templates. In any case, what does deleting them achieve? The templates are designed to be subbed so the end effect on the wiki at any point will be exactly the same, it's just like having aliases set up. I am proposing they are useful, even if you don't find them so, and that there is no benefit to deleting them, so we should not do it. Misery 07:45, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Agreed with Mis, for his reasons. Templates should be equally usable by wiki nubs and wiki pros, not just by wiki pros. -Auron 07:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Though i find {{skill data}} easy to use, i agree with Misery and Auron. Not all might find it as easy. - J.P.Talk 08:12, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Took me about two minutes to learn how to use it, but I'm not throwing my support in either camp. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 13:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

In passing it seems at least one user noted a change in behaviour (Template Talk:EAR). I haven't looked into it myself, but it should probably be investigated before any wholesale change. --DryHumour 14:43, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

That issue should be fixed already. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 14:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't care if you want to keep some of the templates, for example {{EAR}} and {{AAR}}. However some of them, such as {{EA}} or {{ER}} just make no sense, if you are able to simply leave out the value you don't want to display.. poke | talk 15:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

How do you reproduce ER using EAR? I can't see how it's done. Misery 11:38, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

{{EAR|E||R}}, if the default values of EAR are changed to empty instead of zero. poke | talk 12:24, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, see I tried putting zero in instead. Hrm, I won't cry too loudly then if ER and EA are deleted, but it still requires extra knowledge to use EAR in that way. Misery 13:10, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

See the section above for the zero thing.. poke | talk 13:58, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

-poke-

I feel like making something epic in wiki coding, but i do not know what. And thx for the {{time}} template it is a beast. Figured out how to make it into my new daily color schemes. — Seru Talk 02:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

No, you remembered it.. You figured it out a long while ago when I created it for you... <_< poke | talk 07:18, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

But i had it working for hours. I didn't know how to make it for days . . . — Seru Talk 12:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Has nothing to do with the template though :P poke | talk 16:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

And while I'm here

I just totally received wikimail in German >_<

I knew there would be consequences to listing my location as Germany, as correct as it is. Why weren't you on msn to help me? :< Misery 13:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Nicholas Sandford/Research/archive

I did the preview code thing this time, but there is a new problem. - Tanetris 07:48, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

meh! poke | talk 13:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Featured Article Reminder

Monday makes 3 weeks. Just a friendly reminder. -- Konig/talk 04:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder, it's done for now :) poke | talk 11:19, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Thoughtful

I have a thoughtful category/page suggestion. Not sure how to go about it. It would help as well was thinking on Grouping elites by profession (no details) But like a few notes at the bottom of 'other' pages like reference pages of each elite area so they could look at details, but also add in this page what boss the elite can be obtained from (Along with what campaign - if necessary). Thoughts? ♥ Ariyen ♀ 03:36, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Not sure if I understand you right; something like this? For a list of elite skills by profession, use the normal skill lists and sort by description, as all skills begin with "Elite XY". poke | talk 10:49, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Similar, but not quite. More like

Warrior - Strength - Axe Mastery - Hammer Mastery - Swordsmanship - Tactics - No Attribute

Prophecies (elite names under each of them that resides in this area, but in alpabedical order)

Factions (same)

Nightfalls (same)

Core (same)

For core it'd be miscellaneous and on and on with the rest. ♥ Ariyen ♀ 11:25, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

There are galleries of all that, and categories are all done for uniques. Category:Unique weapons by profession Category:Unique item galleries by attribute. Oh duh, you mean skills not items (I think I've been doing this too long). -- Wyn talk 11:59, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

What about List_of_elite_skills_by_capture_locationI'm just stupid today it seems. -- Wyn talk 12:01, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps something like this? --JonTheMon 12:29, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Not talking about where to capture it. they can find that out with those other links. Just well what the elite skill is, what profession and category like warrior tactics so to speak it's under and what Campaign it's from. No detail on the elite skill, just name. (Sorry, forgot to sign a moment ago to this.) ♥ Ariyen ♀ 18:13, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

List of elite skills, List of elite skills by campaign? poke | talk 17:58, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Similar to list of elite skills by campaign, but changed to list of elite skills by profession. I'm considering in making it, but only if it'd be worth doing, etc.

I can do a 'temp' and add it to my user page and then do a link to see what I mean, if liked. ♥ Ariyen ♀ 18:13, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that would help :) Just a few example entries would be enough, maybe we can make a quick DPL list then. poke | talk 18:20, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

You forgot it again!

[2] — Why 11:15, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Doh! xD – Thanks ^^ poke | talk 11:18, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

I owe you a...

-- Wyn talk 09:57, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

 :) poke | talk 11:49, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

*poke*

Hai. I was trying to find a code for timestamp, I want to make a custom-looking one for my signucha but can't find it anywhere! I asked Wyn but she (She right?) doesn't seem to know. Can you help me? Tanks in advance. :D Nectarines 12:56, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Oi and a couldnt resist with the heading. :D Nectarines 12:56, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

{{SUBST:LOCALTIME}}, {{SUBST:LOCALDAY}} {{SUBST:LOCALMONTHNAME}} {{SUBST:LOCALYEAR}} 

Stick that into your preferences (make sure you're (wiki preference) settings are on time), and remember to sign with 3 tildes instead of 4. ~ PheNaxKian 17:47, 24 September 2009

I prefer seeing timestamps uniform in format (including colours, fonts, etc). :/ -- Brains12 \ talk 19:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh tanks! But, aren't they templates? I read a policy about signuchas and it says they are not allowed. :( Nectarines 19:13, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

you're not allowed to use templates because they're transcluded (so if you used it on 100 pages and then went and changed that template the 100 pages with the tempalte on would have to update). to get round that you "subst:" them (so instead of seeing {{Templatename}} in the edit window you'd see the actual code ) this means that it's not effected by any future updates of said tempalte. However the problem remains that these pages will become targets for vandalism (because anyone can edit them), the templates i told you to use are...special I guess is the best way to put it =p. they're "magicwords" they're built into the MW software, so vandals can't get at them. ~ PheNaxKian 19:18, 24 September 2009

That means they are ok, awesome! :D I kind of noticed that they weren't your usual kind of template, at least not how I imagined templates to work. Anyway, tanks. :3 Nectarines// 09:30 25 September 2009(UTC)

Finished! :D Nectarines // 09:44 25 September 2009(UTC)

Congratulations Poke!

http://twitter.com/guildwars2 - I just wanted to congratulate poke for winning a gw2 artbook off twitter! I just saw the update... I was too busy playing guild wars to win one myself =/. CONGRATS! Power WM 22:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Haha, thanks :D poke | talk 22:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I cry Cronyism! :P (Satanael | talk) 17:01, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Do we have anywhere a list of available fonts? Basically I am looking for something like this but for fonts. (Satanael | talk) 06:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

They have the same name as ones in your Office Word so you just go <span style="font-family:Font name goes here">Text goes here</span>. At least thats how I do it but poke might know a more advanced method. :D HF Nectarines // 13:27 26 September 2009(UTC)

Yeah, I got that much, but they're not exact, for example Times New Roman is just times when you put it in the code. Also, we don't have all of them, for example typing in Helvetica and Gothic just reverts back to the default font (arial?). Or, at least it does on my browser. I kinda have the feeling there is no straightforward answer, but I just don't know enough about it, which is why I asked poke, because he knows everything. That's right EVERYTHING! (Satanael | talk) 14:27, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Working with fonts on the internet is very difficult, because they are rendered by the browser so everone who wants to see the font actually is required to have that font installed. As such you cannot easily say which font is available to everybody, simply because you probably have other fonts installed than others. That's also the reason why there won't be really a list with available fonts somewhere, simply because there is no ruling in what fonts are available (one could simply delete all fonts but one for example). And there is only a small number of fonts available on Windows, Mac and Linux.

I have some lists with compatible "standard" fonts available on multiple systems by default, but I doubt you will be satisfied with such (the one list actually only has 13 entries with most of them being different forms of the standard sans-serif). So to customize your signature you will probably prefer to simply forget about other people and use a custom font you have and you like. Adding a second font to the list that is used in case the first is not available makes it safer.

Regarding Times New Roman – works fine for me :) poke | talk 14:45, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm not surpirised by either the answer or the fact that poke knew it. In any case, whatever list you have I would be interested in, at least so I can play with it a little and see what I have on my computer. Thanks for your help poke! (Satanael | talk) 21:59, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Here you have some links: http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesign-l/WindowsMacFonts.html, http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/sampler-CombinedResults.shtml poke | talk 00:14, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! (Satanael | talk) 05:14, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

That signature is too big and as such violates the sign policy :S poke | talk 11:32, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, fine then, be that way :P (Satanael | talk) 15:33, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Pokey poke

Hai, can I ask you something about monobook again? :D <was a rethorical question. I am trying to find a way to make my sign button sign with three tidles ~~~ now that I have a ustom timestamp. Can you halp? Thanks in advance!! :3 Nectarines // 13:40 26 September 2009(UTC)

Look here and simply remove one of the tildes :) poke | talk 14:46, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Tanks! :D Nectarines // 16:55 26 September 2009(UTC)

ArenaNet talk:Armor art bugs

Sorry for bothering you, but you were the one that protected the page so I came here ^^ Anyway I've been going for old images that have just been forgotten, I found File:Gw287.jpg and I've moved it to File:User Princessy Gw287.jpg so I was hoping you would mind fixing the link there thx :D If you need help finding the link I can find it for ya C4K3 Talk 19:50, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

(fail wording) I mean to fix the link in the page to correct image now, and if you could please do it with File:User Sower of chaos Gw284.jpg / File:Gw284.jpg at ArenaNet talk:Quest bugs it would be much appreciated :D C4K3 Talk 19:57, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Fixed both :) poke | talk 20:11, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Great thx :D C4K3 Talk 20:12, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Ohh and sorry about recreating it, I was tagging it right when you deleted it C4K3 Talk 20:13, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Pling

I would like to know what creepy and stupid reason allows in this situation to contradict the policy that user talk pages are never ever deleted. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 20:54, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

We were in the middle of a bot move, and Jope added a comment in between of it. I had do delete it quickly so it wouldn't break. poke | talk 20:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Really? Sorry about that :( - J.P.Talk 21:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, as long as you are not angry that I deleted the page that quickly ^^ poke | talk 21:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I was a bit confused :D But i posted it again after the content from Brains' talk page was moved over there. - J.P.Talk 21:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

*waves*

Hai, I just had an basolutely awesome idea about how to imrove seeping wound skill so I want to make a suggestion. Problem is however that I need a personal suggestion portal but how can I make one for myself I don't know. :( Can you give halp? Ty in advance. :3 Nectarines // 11:56 1 October 2009(UTC)

This might help. — Why 14:07, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

*pokes*

Just a reminder to change the featured article this Monday so you don't forget. -- Konig/talk 01:51, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder, although in the end I forgot to change it early this day :P But on the other side at least I didn't forget to add {{featured article}} :D poke | talk 16:14, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

:D — Why 11:07, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey, you remembered! Incredible! :p -- Konig/talk 15:00, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikichu

Asploded my watchlist. Is there any way of ignoring his edits? -- NUKLEAR IIV 17:02, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Click on "Hide bots"? -- FreedomBound 17:03, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Change your preferences. -- pling 17:18, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Though I do feel a bit silly to not have noticed it before... -- NUKLEAR IIV 17:23, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Grr.. Where's the code for wikichu? I want it ._. -- Halogod35 00:17, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikichu uses multiple different bot frameworks, most of them written by myself, and a lot single scripts to perform special tasks. Sorry, but I won't publish the code. poke | talk 05:13, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

I bet you'd sell it for a price, though. Vili 点 05:16, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Damn. :/ I just wanted a very very simple code just to change (elite) to (Elite) or.. make any *{{skill icon|(Insert elite skill)}} into *{{skill icon|(Insert elite skill)}} ([[Elite]]). What family is this wiki btw? -- Halogod35 12:26, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Er, it should actually be "(elite)" - we tend to capitalise only when it's a proper noun for things like that. Not sure what you mean by "family".-- pling 13:41, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Well fine, (Elite) into (elite) ): and family, such as wikimedia or mediawiki or... wikia? -- Halogod35 14:03, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

There's a little badge at the bottom right of every page that says, "Powered by Mediawiki". Does that answer your question? -- FreedomBound 14:05, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Hopefully. -- Halogod35 14:07, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Guild Wars Wiki is not part of a wiki family. We are fully custom.

And to request bot tasks, please go here. If you plan to use an own bot to change things that go against existing formatting guidelines or consensus, you can be sure that the bot will be blocked without hesitation. poke | talk 14:30, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes sir I understand. I'm going to use PhP bot, would that work? -- Halogod35 14:32, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

What does that stand for? If it's a MediaWiki bot framework it will probably work, yes. poke | talk 14:34, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Hypertext Preprocesser. -- Halogod35 14:36, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Either PHP or php then please.. And no, you will need a MediaWiki compatible bot framework, not just any bot for whatever task. poke | talk 15:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Okay, hmm any insights on the Stop on message thing? -- Halogod35 15:57, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

i don't know that one, but for the botting stuff you could use AWB (auto wiki browser). - Y0_ich_halt 16:04, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

O.o where's that at? -- Halogod35 18:09, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

wikipedia it poke | talk 18:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, found it right when ou edit conflicted me xD -- Halogod35 18:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

hai poke, could wikichu update all my sigs to remove this: "|18px" from them? :3 the old ones look so bad coz pic is 19*19 and they are set to 18*18 >.> thankies!: ) - Wuhy 21:16, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

No sorry, we decided before that we won't update old signatures just because of some changes (or deleted images or whatever) to not unnecessarily ping people's watchlist. poke | talk 21:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

then I gotta do it each one myself?:-( - Wuhy 21:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

No, you simply don't do it and leave the images as they are. poke | talk 21:45, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

You could just re-upload the image at 18x18 instead, if you want. –Jette 22:01, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

now look at how awesome jette is! - Wuhy 10:15, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Quick question

Just out of curiosity did any of the recent updates do anything to the Prefix index? To give an example of what I am referring to, when I go to delete a guild page; for guild cleanup in this case; and then go to check for any subpages, etc by clicking one of the three; Guild's subpages, Guild's talk pages, or Guild's images; links in the toolbox nav it no longer just lists just the pages that start with the guilds name but instead starts the list with the guild name and then goes on to list what looks to be all pages in the given namespace after that name alphabetically (I hope that actually makes sense). To further test that this was not a problem with the actual links in the toolbox I went to the above linked page and entered my username with the namespace set to user and this is the result. Guess what I am asking is whether this was simply a feature change of sorts that I somehow missed reading about or whether it was some kind of bug, error or something else entirely?

On a completely unrelated topic but important none the less, glad to hear the surgery went ok :) --Kakarot 02:12, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks ^^ But yes, you are right. MediaWiki 1.15 somehow changed the behaviour of PrefixIndex. I'm not sure if it was intended or not, at least they broke the original idea of that special page – or at least changed the behavious – but forgot to adjust the formular for it. After some research I found a solution for it, and it really makes sense and is now consistent with the API. The parameter "from" selects only those pages that follow (alphabetically) after the given name. The, by the formular incorrectly, unused parameter "prefix" replaces the old behaviour of PrefixIndex' "from". So now Special:PrefixIndex and Special:AllPages are consistent in parameter names and behaviour and match the API too. But I don't know why they don't set the "prefix" parameter via PrefixIndex (as it should do).

Anyway, I added a quick fix to GWWT so those lists should work again. poke | talk 10:14, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Unbedingt!

Ich buchstabiere immer falsch -_- Misery 22:05, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Oha! Das ist mir gar nicht aufgefallen, aber "uberdingt" klingt auch ziemlich uber und wichtig :P poke | talk 22:10, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

ACHTUNG, ACHTUNG, NEIN, NEIN, HEIL, SIEG.....

I can't believe I wasted 2 years on studying German, I was a horrible student. Call it a lack of motivation. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 22:36, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

hey, it's totally worth it once you can speak it :P especially if you're able to use the mose elite of all german accents, swabian! - Y0_ich_halt 15:54, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Dredge Gutter

Hi, it was suggested some time ago that this article should be split. There was no consensus for splitting on the talk page, and the article lay idle for a few months. Just yesterday, Ariyen split it without looking at the discussion and without having obtained a consensus beforehand. I reverted it, but she's re-reverted again. I don't want to break 1RR, so could you (assuming you agree with my argument) put it back the way it was? Just to clarify, while I don't believe the article should be split, my objection here is to splitting the article preemptively, without taking into consideration the discussion on the talk page. Thanks! -- Hong 16:23, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response, but I had to think about it for a while to make my own opinion on it. While I don't see either of the resolutions as wrong, I have to agree that it might make more sense to have the NPC pages split to be able to state correct information for both without having to explain which line applies to whom always (because that would look messy).

I agree thought that it was not the best way to split it with ignoring a (recent) ongoing discussion, but given that the page was tagged for split since April and no discussion was there for months, I don't see a too big problem there. poke | talk 13:13, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

/poke

Could you get Wikichu to remove all these redirects at some point? I heard it'd been mentioned but you seem to have not had the time to do it yet. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 03:13, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

It's on the list already; I'll do it when I have the time for it :) poke | talk 07:13, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

kthx. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 07:20, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

oh GAWD mah watchlist and recent changes –Jette 22:25, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Both lists can hide bot edits, and the watchlist even has a nice button... :P I can tell you when it is finished so you can click there :P (btw. I have all those pages on my watchlist, too!) poke | talk 22:30, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Done :P poke | talk 23:14, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I know. I've just never been on when you've used it, so seeing five pages worth of changes was a bit of a surprise.  :< Thanks though. –Jette 23:30, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

/help

on 29 October, you deleted a page called Technical Support because it was misplaced. Where should I have put it? ~ Un Bunny — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.176.24.157 (talk) at 01:33, 25 October 2009 (UTC).

Well, the page name was very generic to begin with; a guide how to add a command line argument to the GW shortcut isn't really needed on a separate page, and it already exists. The argument itself is explained on that page as well, so we don't really need an additional page for that (also see the talk page, as there was some discussion about that parameter). poke | talk 13:42, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi

I added the Category:GW Codex feedback to suggestions, but I can't figure out where that category control page is. I know.. I'm stupid :P -- Wyn talk 08:37, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Done. poke | talk 13:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

skill infobox

Your changes here causes the box to display incorrectyl, not aligning the two sides properly, at certain resolutions, fonts and textsizes.

Didn't notice earlier because I don't use those myself. What was it you were trying to fix? Backsword 17:41, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Puhh.. I have no idea ^^ I guess those edits were related to the css changes I made some time ago... Not sure though.. Do you have an example where it looks wrong? poke | talk 18:31, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I was looking at Intensity (as I don't quite like how it looks normally), and checked it with a differnt font(size): got this. Does the same in every inctance tho'. Backsword 01:27, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Linebreak?

I do not see any line breaks? -- Lacky 07:57, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

What desktop resolution are you using? poke | talk 07:59, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

1440x900. -- Lacky 08:13, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Reduce it by something (for example to 1280) and check the page again. poke | talk 08:19, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Ahh, I see...well a problem solved is a problem solved. -- Lacky 08:23, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Couldn't you move the "Also see..." back a bit? -- Lacky 08:24, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Just checked, it is only displayed in one line when I completely remove the margin, and then it looks a bit weird :P poke | talk 08:25, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

If I did the same thing that you did (which I have no idea =P) then it does look a tad weird, but not too much. -- Lacky 08:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

nicholas?

do u do every nicholas map? N122333 01:06, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I think so :) poke | talk 09:54, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Unnecessary double redirects?

Is there a purpose for this, this or this redirecting to another redirect? Shouldn't these rather redirect to their Feedback pages? - J.P.Talk 14:45, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually all those temp redirects could be deleted. poke | talk 14:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Hopefully the double redirects were by accident. If you feel adventurous, you could go see which pages link to the first page of the double redirects, and correct the now improper links. Or else, discuss it endlessly in the discussion page before making the correction. 42 - talk 00:38, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

"This is what a category is for..."

Then why we have navs for titles, miniatures, heroes and so on? - J.P.Talk 18:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, then I also want a enemies nav box (with all enemies), a enemies in <location> navbox, a boss navbox (with all bosses) and a boss in <location> navbox; all on the same page.

There is a big difference between NPCs and things you mentioned. poke | talk 18:23, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok, fine then XD - J.P.Talk 18:47, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Poke, you using "category" as a reason for no NPC nav bars holds no weight. There are already category pages for the "items" that have nav bars, are you going to argue against those too? After all, they have category pages for them. Stop trying to argue against yourself and pick a side. Either that, or say the true reason you don't want NPC nav bars. The true issue isn't if there is category pages or not. If it was, you would be against nav bars period. 42 - talk 00:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Too bad sarcasm doesnt work on the internet :S --SilentStorm 00:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, despite my usual inclination, I am being serious here. People shouldn't hide behind lame excuses, especially one as blatant as this. Hiding behind "that is what category pages are for" is done far too many times, and this time, like many others, it holds no weight, especially when the individual is arguing against them on one side (NPCs), and for them (items) on another. Not technically for them, but not against them on the item side of things. 42 - talk 00:41, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I am not against navigation templates in general, I actually like them - when they are useful. Most of the "good" navigation templates display more than just the name as shown in the category. For example the miniatures nav shows how you get the actual miniature (/what birthday it is bound to); the consumable navigation templates display how many points they give on the title; and location-related navigation templates offer a way to easily jump to related other locations, even those in a different category tree. And there is one important thing that makes them different than an average NPC navigation template: They are useful for visitors. I have never seen anybody who was looking for other NPCs in region X. Or for other NPCs related to affiliation. And if they are interested, they will more likely go to the actual location's page and look there at the NPC section, which gives a more detailed information (profession, level) which simply won't fit into a navigation infobox.

And as I have shown in my ironical request above, a lot NPCs are in simply too many different locations/affiliations/whatever, so displaying navigation templates for all of them makes the whole idea of quick links to related pages really useless. poke | talk 08:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I have no problem with that being the reasoning, but trying to hide behind simply "there is a category" makes no sense, because the same could be said of the nav bars, despite there being more information than just "goes to X". People could just look that information up on the specific page for each item. That is all I am trying to say, don't say we don't need this nav bar based on there being a category. Either use the actual reasoning, which you did now, and/or recommend ways to make it more useful to follow the ideal behind the other nav bars. It was never my intention to have a nav bar on each NPC page for every category the particular NPC was in. The reason that I made the charr nav bar first, as said on the other talk page I think, was because that was the first boss table I finished. It made sense at the time to make a nav bar for it. I have been thinking about it, and thinking either a profession specific nav bar, or a campaign specific nav bar would be a better choice than type, because of the huge number of different types of NPCs in the game. I have also considered having a nav bar or one specific "see also" type of link that links to one giant nav bar on it's own page. That one would have a mini list of each one. I literally just had this idea now, and haven't had time to work it up yet. 42 - talk 20:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

AGF

I don't think they meant it.-- anguard 23:26, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Was still vandalism though, i did also try to revert it but couldnt work out how lol Simzy 23:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I've done accidental reverts/undos/clears in my beginner time, I didn't get banned for 3 days for it.-- anguard 23:33, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Look through it though, why would they replace everything with pussy if it wasnt done on purpose?Simzy 23:37, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't see that o_O-- anguard 23:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

NP, like i said though, i tried to revert but i dont know how and then i saw it all get removed with just pussy as the text and then Poke sorted it so i knew that he saw it all. Simzy 23:40, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Block

Hello, I was recomended by Auron to talk to you about blocking matters. On PvX there seems to be something funny going on with my account. When other users get blocked so does my IP at home. This has happend before and it is getting annoying now. I was wondering if you could help out.----Xtreme 11:25, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Sounds similar to an issue we've had here before. Now sure how ArenaNet managed to fix it, but.. that's for Poke (or Wikia) to think about. -- pling 14:07, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I recommend moving to Alaska. elix Omni 15:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

So do you think it is linked to the account? Then if I make a new account it would go away?----Xtreme 17:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so. Have you talked to Wikia about this? They'll probably be able to tell you more. -- pling 17:15, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

How does one contact Wikia?----Xtreme 17:24, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

User:Angela is the main Wikia person on pvx, I think. Isn't there also a Wikia noticeboard? I'm not really familiar with Wikia. -- pling 17:28, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

There's a wikia noticeboard we created which given our skill descriptions are still out of date they probably don't look at. The way to contact wikia is to go onto any wikia wiki (such as PvX) and go to "Special:Contact", that's a form wikia created specifically to contact them. ~ PheNaxKian 17:53, 9 November 2009

The best method of contacting Wikia staff is actually to spam Angela's talk page with passive aggressive messages that become increasingly more aggressive. Misery 17:56, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

It's really not. If you use Wikia:Special:Contact you are sure to get a reply within a certain timeframe. If you use my talk page, I might not see it, or I might be away, or I might need to check something with someone else and forget to come back! Angela 21:10, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

See? Passive aggressive message spamming always works! Karate Jesus 21:14, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey, X, time to get banned again? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:09, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

WHAT DID ARE YOU GOING TO DO?----Xtreme 21:20, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

-poke-

User Talk:Wynthyst#Monthly_date; Sorry, I had the wrong template. But, anyway, I'm working on this auto theme changer thingy. Do you think it would work like this? -- Halogod35 13:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

-Poke?- -- Halogod35 02:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

If you want to get my attention, don't misuse the move template, when nothing was moved; but instead just refer to previous discussions and ask me directly.

To answer your question, I refer to Seru's userpage code as he did exactly that. poke | talk 14:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Has to be that complicated? I was wondering if it's just possible to leave out dates and let it refer to the last date? (At least for now I'll just put every date in.) -- Halogod35 14:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, after rereading your initial question again, I would suggest you to simply change your user page by hand when you want to change it for events. Simply because every other way would require the server to always check the dates and get the correct version displayed. Especially with the {{time}} template.. poke | talk 22:15, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Script

I did use your script to add today's codex skills. - Reanimated X 07:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Good to hear, hope others working on the codex skills will notice it too :) poke | talk 09:21, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello mr. Wizard.

(I think) a recent update to Google Chrome has caused it to display the navigation box and boxes that are usually below it, all the way down below the content of every page here. Do you know of an easy fix for this in my monobook or something, or should I just *sigh* switch back to firefox? — Why 20:57, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

I use Chrome and I don't have that problem, though when there is a div or span or anything like that are not closed (no /div or /span etc). Could be that? Titani Ertan 08:44, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Back to firefox with you. You know it's inevitable anyway. Alternatively, try some javascriptz stylesheetz. Absolute location should probably do. I would make it for you myself but I have no $&%#@ing clue of what I'm doing. Gimme a minute, CSS only takes like half an hour to learn and with syntax highlighting I can't fail. Tee hee hee, vim is so pretty now. nvm, even easier than I thought. Here, put this bad code in your css and see what pops out:

#p-navigation
{ position:absolute; top:160px; }
#p-search
{ position:relative; top:160px; }
#p-support
{ position:relative; top:160px; }
#p-tb
{ position:relative; top:160px; }

It works on mine, anyway....–Jette 09:11, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, given that it works for some users it is really weird. I don't have Chrome myself to test it, but I think it is probably a problem on your side. To test, could you try removing GWWT from your monobook.js - It is unlikely (because its portlet uses the same style), but maybe there is some issue with it.

Otherwise decreasing the left margin of the "column-content" div should make more room for the portlets without changing the look. Try adding #column-content { margin-left: -15em; } to your monobook.css. poke | talk 14:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

This has also been reported Guild_Wars_Wiki:Reporting_wiki_bugs#Google_Chrome_issues. There is a link there to another script that is said to fix it. I don't use Chrome, so I can't say for sure. -- Wyn talk 15:16, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, tested it myself now. Add the following code to your monobook.css to fix it:

#column-one { position: absolute; width: 100%; }

I don't know why Chrome interprets this wrong, and why it works on other wikis, but this should fix the problem.. poke | talk 16:00, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Would putting it in the global css fix it for everyone? or would it just break it for those of us not using chrome? -- Wyn talk 16:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I would prefer not adding that to the global file, because it may not work for some browsers and break things. poke | talk 16:22, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

That's cool.. is why I asked.. now if someone says... "why not just put it in the global css?" I can say.... "Cuz poke said so..." <3 -- Wyn talk 16:26, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks all! — Why 19:36, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Stupid question....

How can one tell if an image is linked externally? I fail at manually searching for the links, and lately I keep tagging images for deletion that are externally linked and not showing up under "What links here". Is there any better way to find these that I'm not seeing? -- Wandering Traveler 01:19, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Special:LinkSearch/http://wiki.guildwars.com/images poke | talk 06:00, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Knew I was missing something. Thanks poke. -- Wandering Traveler 18:19, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

star

Hey, where did you get the star that you used in File:Nicholas the Traveler Maishang Hills map.jpg? — Balistic 19:56, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

It's a quest marker made by LordBiro; see the discussion, or the image. poke | talk 19:58, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and what font did you use? — Balistic 20:04, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

It's a proprietary font I own. poke | talk 20:07, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

I see, thanks for map marker though (: — Balistic 20:08, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh and one more thing, how did you make the regular game marker disappear? — Balistic 20:19, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

multiple screen shots and a bit editing ;) poke | talk 20:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

I made a texmod a while back that gets rid of the normal icon in favor of Biro's. I can send it to you to make that quicker, if you want. –Jette 10:12, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that there is no quest leading to Nicholas though :P poke | talk 14:24, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I could use that though. ^^ — Balistic 00:55, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

cite.php

Why did you remove my vote?-- Shew 20:34, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind. I see that we have it now. XD-- Shew 20:40, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Just found out.

class="hiddenlinks" doesn't work in GW2W. - J.P.Talk 09:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right. I'll update the styles over there later. poke | talk 14:25, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

done! poke | talk 08:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Oops.

Yeah, sorry, I was a bit dense not to think of that. A F K When Needed 19:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

hehe, no problem :D poke | talk 19:19, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

SWEET!

The RC i mean ^^ - J.P.Talk 18:08, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

That's really nothing.. Too many images tagged as "orphaned" who are not really orphaned btw.. :( poke | talk 18:09, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I saw the Death Nova Beta restoration poke ^^ Misery 18:12, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, I hit it in my automated routine, and only noticed its name when I saw the other large icon (which was linked from somewhere) :P poke | talk 18:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

(Edit conflict x2) I found the same thing yesterday when I went through the list although most of them were guild images where the guild page had been moved to historical. Still good to see that list get cleared even more. --Kakarot 18:14, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) This is why bots (and poke) should not be allowed to delete things to be honest. I'm emotionally scarred now. Misery 18:15, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Think mine was 248 deletions in about 53 minutes so about one every 12-13 seconds , would of been faster if I didn't have to fix images that shouldn't of been tagged. --Kakarot 18:20, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Well Misery, when I start deleting, and see a lot of images tagged as orphaned in the list, I stop thinking and go like "check usage -> if not used anywhere -> go delete -> 'orphaned image' -> delete! -> next tab -> .."; can't help it when the image is completely unused and unlinked... :( poke | talk 18:22, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Poke, I don't even look at pages when I delete them on PvX and votes cannot be restored. Totally not blaming you ^^

Over 1100 deletions for me, I guess I stopped caring around 100 and I am guessing you have quite a few more.Misery 18:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I remember times when we had ~1000 a day :P poke | talk 18:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Mine were all manual and technically were supposed to be checked first >_>

Then I realised that if I didn't recognise the name of the build from the meta no one would care if I deleted it anyway. Misery 18:27, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I would say GMTA but...

... you always think of things before me. This time I'm referring to this edit which made use of a template I hadn't noticed existed. This morning; as in right now; I was going to suggest an addition to the previous template on that page for the addition of a "show differences" link since I always find that the easiest way to see what has changed in a policy proposal. Then I noticed while going through my watchlist that you had already done it back in June ... keep up the good work :) --Kakarot 11:39, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Haha, I actually had to look up GMTA :D But yeah, that template was part of my policy cleanup project since the very beginning ^^ poke | talk 13:55, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Some help

Hey, Poke. I know you're pretty amazing at wiki stuff, so I thought I'd ask for you a hand. I stole Emily Diehl's userpage layout and I'm currently trying to use it on PvX; however, it does things like this and this where it moves my tools to the bottom of the page and doesn't give me section "edit" links. Could you help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? I think I left a div openended or something. Karate Jesus 20:58, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Fixed – Also, Happy Birthday :) poke | talk 21:07, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! But, um what's wrong with this page? Karate Jesus 21:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Fixed as well :D poke | talk 21:11, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Haha, sorry to trouble you on that one. I just went and changed it. Thanks so much for your help! Btw, I may be adding a bot account to PvX soon (to do some grunt work) and might ask you for some help on that. Out of curiosity, what type of system do you use for Wikichu? Something like Python or AWB or what? Karate Jesus 21:13, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikichu is running multiple different self written bot frameworks in different languages (depending on its task :P) ^^ poke | talk 21:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

You're so advanced :/ I just hope my bot doesn't fuck up PvX, tbh. Karate Jesus 22:58, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Codex

Hey poke! Sorry that I unfixed what you fixed and I thought was broken earlier, but what is going on with the codex page? What is wrong with the time update, and why is the link either way going back to 11/22/09? Thanks! --Elven Chaos 20:00, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, the codex skills listed there are updated when people bother to go write down the available skills from in-game (by switching through 10 professions) and putting them in a list on the wiki. If you want to help, you can use this script to generate the list automatically when you have the skill names. Otherwise, if people do not bother to get the available skills from in-game, we won't be able to list the current skills simply because we don't have them. poke | talk 20:02, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I have posted today's skills. -- Wyn talk 21:26, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

p0ke=m0nkey

For 50 years, experts from around the world will try to scrape me off of the floor. Titani Ertan 21:02, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Wishing...

Hi Poke, Just stopped in early, to wish you a Safe & Happy Thanksgiving!
PS. Have some Pie and some Apple Cider
MystiLefemEle 10:07, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Even if we don't celebrate Thanksgiving at all here, I'll probably go farm some of those in-game drops :P Thanks and Have a nice Thanksgiving too! :) poke | talk 16:13, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Have a good Thanksgiving. Drogo Boffin 15:23, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, you too :) poke | talk 16:13, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

One more elite for your Codex Skill Database

"Coward!" doesn't auto-bold. --RIDDLE 02:28, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, fixed! Was another shout without quotation marks ;) poke | talk 02:37, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

<3

Your Tools rock ^_^ Reaper of Scythes Talk 22:35, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Glad to hear you like it :) poke | talk 22:42, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

About this

I was gonna put resolved itself like you did but I wasnt sure if it would have been discussing or not. So my question is: Could I have said that it resolved itself without it being discussing? Drogo Boffin 17:29, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Sure, if there is nothing more that needs attention just say so :) poke | talk 17:30, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

KK Drogo Boffin 17:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

HAI

How are you? 114.127.246.36 17:38, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm fine, how about yourself? :) poke | talk 18:33, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Ohai Drogo Boffin 18:54, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Vandal/Issue Archiving

So Vandal archives go at the top, issues go at the bottom? -- Lacky 20:04, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Yep Drogo Boffin 20:27, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Mmkay. -- Lacky 21:12, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikichu

Just wondering if you could run Wikichu on the tagged in-active guilds to move to historical content, please? I just did some archiving but forgot about Wikichu until Ariyen said something... -- Lacky 00:56, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

There are not enough yet; and it's Wyn's job to prepare the final list that is used to archive those pages. Also please don't move them to historical by hand, as that just leaves a lot of junk behind. poke | talk 08:00, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

There's like, over 500 or so. How many can Wikichu do? I wouldn't normally move them by hand, but as I said, I did forget about Wikichu. Also one of the guilds was my old guild. -- Lacky 20:46, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

No, there are like 96 inactive guilds pending historical move. poke | talk 20:51, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Isn't this the page? -- Lacky 23:42, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's the list of inactive guilds, but only "[h]ighlighted pages are pending move". poke | talk 00:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Ahh ok. Thanks for that then. Let me know when you do run Wikichu please. -- Lacky 00:48, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Why? poke | talk 09:17, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

He needs one for his collection, obviously. –Jette 13:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for stealing your shit

on PvX. I'll change the layout when I get some time. Oh, and I would love to see what you run and try to learn more about your bot(s) here. I'm still pretty new to this stuff. Karate Jesus 21:23, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Btw, my MSN is karatejesus_kj@hotmail.com if you want to yell at me for taking your template :D if you think you could help me out. Karate Jesus 21:29, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Archives

I don't think you archive enough. It must be that people have absolutely no quarrel with you. NuVII 18:37, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for not being offensive enough. poke | talk 18:38, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

It's okay. You got another archive to give it a try. We have faith in you. Titani Ertan 19:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Come troll conservapedia with us! Here, you can wear this mask. File:User Jette emosewa.png –Jette 21:12, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

that mask is amasing :P --Nick123 22:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Whoah, it took me quite a while to recognize that face! The mask is effective! poke | talk 22:13, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Twitter

http://tr.im/Gwr9 is the link the twitter bot gave for the newest update, which takes me to "Game updates/ updates/20091202". Though I did get a message first try that tr.im is overloaded and had to refresh, so the problem might be on their end. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(talk) 17:02, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, thanks. I noticed this morning that it's not tweeting the update since we moved to the Feedback namespace and only did some quick fixes, but forgot about how the link is constructed. It should work now. poke | talk 17:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

On a (un)related note, do you think an extension such as WikiArticleFeeds could be used to provide feeds from within the wiki without resorting to 3rd party sites, or would that be still too limited on visibility/usability?--Fighterdoken 19:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I actually like that it is on a 3rd party site, which is used very widely, and does not rely on the wiki... poke | talk 20:01, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

GWWT and Chrome

Yet another issue that I can't seem to figure out. When using GWWT on Chrome for me, I can access it on the sidebar just fine, I can select tags just fine, but it never places the tag. I'm always stuck at the edit screen after clicking which tag to place. No tag, no loading...nothing. Provided that made sense, any ideas? -- Wandering Traveler 04:54, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Works just fine for me, so I don't know what you're talking about. --RIDDLE 08:24, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Can't check myself as I only have Chrome Frame installed atm, but could you look out for JavaScript errors? poke | talk 10:08, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

I sometimes have an issue with GWWT and Chrome, but typically it only has issues in userspace, or pages without a talk page (kinda odd). --JonTheMon 14:54, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Weird, could you tell me the page name, the next time you notice it? poke | talk 16:23, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

I'll keep a lookout for errors, but I've seen none so far. :\ -- Wandering Traveler 18:45, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Codex Skill Lists

Hey Poke. I just did the skill list for 12/10/09 and the skill "Can't Touch This!" kept popping into the "Unknown Attribute" section. I double checked the spelling and even copied it off the wiki on the third try. Could you please look into this as I think it's a bug in your program. Was using "http://borntolaugh.de/gww/codex.php". I fixed the error in the code itself and today's codex list is already done. :3 Magic Talk 08:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. poke | talk 10:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Poke. Magic Talk 17:10, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Got another: Death Blossom. :D Magic Talk 07:59, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, fixed :D poke | talk 13:29, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Mantra of Resolve (PvP) :) Magic Talk 09:24, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Fixed :D poke | talk 14:35, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Party pooper

^ :< ··· Danny Pew Pew 23:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

That's my job. poke | talk 23:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

His edit was "a full 10" :< ---Chaos- (talk) -- 23:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything that was technically wrong with my edit. I'm not even sure that it would be considered editorializing. :< ··· Danny Pew Pew 23:09, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Put that on every non-skill update. If you do it with one, you do it with everyone. Titani Ertan 23:10, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

You missed the joke. Put on your thinking cap, I believe in you! ---Chaos- (talk) -- 23:11, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I lold at the joke, but that doesn't make my comment any less true. Titani Ertan 23:12, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Reasoning accepted. The joke doesn't apply to every update :< ---Chaos- (talk) -- 23:13, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Of course, the wiki is here to document jokes made by users. Isn't encyclopedia dramatica calling? Titani Ertan 23:15, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) I just read through their article on Extreme Sarcasm, and it was terrible. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 23:16, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I would have no problem going back to the point where they promised bimestrial updates. ··· Danny Pew Pew 23:15, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Bimestrial is good enough for me, although I hate that word. It's not quite as ambiguous as "bimonthly," but you still have the basic problem of nobody understanding what the hell you're saying. Also: Encyclopedia Dramatica is bad. Poke, how hard would it be to make a bot that logs into the game, checks what skills are on the codex for the day, logs back out and puts that information on the wiki? Just theoretically speaking, if we imagine for a moment ANet would take the bot-stick out of their collective ass. –Jette 15:10, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

It's not that easy, as you would need to either intercept the connection and read the names out of that (which would require a lot of research) or per OCR scan from the actual list (which is really not easy as well, as I have learned while getting the high-resolution skill icons on the wiki). But actually I am researching a bit in such a direction, so maybe it is possible... poke | talk 15:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Bimestrial would be nice. I miss skill updates that weren't just "oshit, this has been OP for 6 months". :/ Karate Jesus 15:23, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

IRC

what network should I connect to with XChat? Thanks --neshot. 19:10, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

The same as with any other program: GameSurge on irc.gamesurge.net poke | talk 19:15, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Featured pages

Heya poke! Just a reminder, we're intending to feature the Dwayna Vs Grenth page during wintersday, could you please ensure the main page is updated when the decorations go live? Thanks! — Why 00:23, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Seems my semi-weekly poke to poke was thwarted by Why. -- Konig/talk 07:47, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll delay the update a bit until we have some announcement about Wintersday. poke | talk 10:30, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

IRC question

Why would someone be kicked from the IRC channel (banned, actually), the first time they've ever logged on it? Purely theoretical, of course. -- FreedomBound 00:55, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Was that you? If so choose a better name next time and/or don't appear in a situation where the previously banned person might get back. poke | talk 00:57, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

I'll try to keep the second point in mind... Although, I'm not exactly sure how to do so. Meh. Not worth it. Now I'm curious as to who was banned and why, though. -- FreedomBound 00:59, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

You were unbanned, feel free to come back, and sorry about that.. The name just was... weird. poke | talk 01:01, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

What was the name? Drogo Boffin 01:02, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

"Weird". Pay attention, Drogo. And thanks Poke. I'll pick a different name, though. Sorry for the confusion. -- FreedomBound 01:02, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh I get it now. LoL Drogo Boffin 01:03, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Poke

Vile Touch <-- pokes you. Dark Morphon 16:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Huh? poke | talk 16:28, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm guessing he's referring to your name and how the image appears to portray someone poking another. Thus he's poking you with the double meaning. :P A F K When Needed 22:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Randomness

Nicked the GWWTs so thought I'd drop by 'n' say cheers for them =) A F K When Needed 22:50, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

^ -- Lacky 22:50, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, you too :) poke | talk 23:14, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, fellow 24th-celebrator ^^ - Y0_ich_halt 23:48, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!MystiLefemEle 04:05, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Diddo, what they said. -- riyen ♥ 07:43, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Poke! ^_^ -- Lacky 02:02, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

So much tsundere loli

16 episodes of CHUT UP CHUT UP CHUT UP. I don't know how I survived the drive. elix Omni 07:35, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Haha, I love it :D poke | talk 10:49, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

<3. I'd have loved it and wouldn't have been able to stop myself laughing. ~ PheNaxKian 22:51, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't think I'm going to get to season 2 on the drive home, but that just means I can watch it in higher resolution on my desktop. elix Omni 19:39, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

happy birthday!

-- pling 23:47, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy birthday - Mini Me talk 23:50, 26 December 2009

Happy birthday. =] --neshot. 23:51, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy birthday poke! Tanjoubi Omedetou! ~ PheNaxKian 23:54, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

happy birthday poke <3 – Emmett 23:57, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy birthday and, how do you know all the birthdays of all the users? Is there some kind of list anywhere? Reaper of Scythes** 00:00, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

GWW:BIRTHDAY – Emmett 00:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy birthday! Have a muffin :P → balistic ← 00:05, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday, Der Poken. --RIDDLE 00:07, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

4 days before a year younger. Everyone has spent their gift money on christmas. Isn't late December just a lovely time to be born in? =/ ---Chaos- (moo) -- 01:13, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

This user would like to wish you a Happy Birthday!

-- riyen ♥ 00:35, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Stole my userbox there Ariyen. =P Anyway, Happy Birthday Mr. Poke! -- Lacky 01:41, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

happy birthday pokey :) --Nick123 10:37, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Chaos, my friend's bday is the 24th of December. His presents get split between Christmas and his birthday. --neshot. 11:31, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy Bday!--Sharkinu 11:40, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

*Pokepokepoke!* Congratulations ^^ -- Cyan 12:03, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you all :)

@Chaos: I like it :) poke | talk 13:13, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

lol, happy birthday ^^ i'd give you a muffin, but i see you already have one. - Y0_ich_halt 13:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Wow, a birthday the day after christmas must suck. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 13:52, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

*2 days (it's the 27th, but i'm sure we get the point =p) ~ PheNaxKian 14:39, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Germans open their presents on the 24th, so it's kinda 3 days :P. -- pling 14:41, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy belated birthday! Just got back to the internets, sorry to be so late ;o. --Elven Chaos 04:13, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy birthday, my beloved goblet. WAHAHAHAHA elix Omni 04:24, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!-- Shew 05:06, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Nya nya, you didn't get a birthday crane! Hope you had an awesome day though. ;) - Bex 10:20, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

I prefer the cake :P - Thanks all :) poke | talk 15:16, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

I totally missed this, sorry poke! I hope you had a good day :) — Why 16:14, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy Belated Birthday Poke, hope it was a great one :D --Kakarot 01:37, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I may be extremely late on this, but happy birthday! I hope you did not sour your own party too much. ;o ··· Danny Pew Pew 23:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday, Poke!! - Belated but still all the warmth.MystiLefemEle 08:36, 31 December 2009 (UTC)