Talk:Skill tome

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Contents 1 Elite Tomes 2 stackable? 3 acquisition 4 Number of skills learned 5 Gallery 6 Drop research 7 Well read 8 move proposal 9 PvP editions 10 Gaining Exp 11 Second Proffession 12 General Picture for the article? 13 Titles 14 Probability 15 trade 16 Bug 17 Price 18 Secondary Prof. 19 Useless Note ! 20 Use of Normal Tomes 21 Time for a tome trader NPC? 22 Class-specific drops? 23 Elite Mesmer Tomes in NF

[edit] Elite Tomes

I had an empty slot on my bar in an outpost and used an elite tome. This tome gave me a second elite skill on my bar (Got Shadow Form and already had Melandru's Arrows). This makes me think that if another 6 elite tomes were used it would be possible to have an entire bar full of elites, I'd test this but I dont feel like getting the tomes for it 64.53.184.116 18:23, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I realise this is an old note, but yes, you can have a bar of 8 eiltes, untill you leave the outpost, if you were to go out with these tomes, you would be left with the elite skill furthest to the right (skill #8 with 8 elites), likewise if you were to enter a mission, or return from an outpost after capping an elite skill. Revelation talk 07:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] stackable?

- Drago 19:45, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

God, I hope so. Then again I've only had 2 so far of different types :D --Snograt 20:09, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

Yes they are stackable. Kyrasantae 04:33, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

Confirmed. My second warrior tome for my Ranger/Warrior, which already has all skills... - MSorglos 16:01, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

[edit] acquisition

So what drops these things? Ii've been playing hard mode for a while haven't seen any so far. -- Gordon Ecker 04:10, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

I've gotten a couple of elite tomes from chests and bosses, while the regular ones drop from regular mobs (I think? my memory's sort of hazy on these). --Dirigible 04:26, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

Yup; reg from regs - had a War, Derv and Mes so far --Snograt 04:54, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

Do the ones from bosses and regular mobs correspond to the creature's profession? -- Gordon Ecker 05:30, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

All of the ones I've had dropped so far were from bosses/monsters of the corresponding profession - but this is only a total of 5 so isn't necessarily 100% accurate Fox (talk|contribs) 10:43, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

I think that Tomes only drop from a certain class for a certain tome, to explain, say the avatar of baltazar will only drop a dervish tome as it class is a dervish, can anyone varify this, or even agree?i know this is asked before but a study would be helpful and would make the tomes easier to aquire, eh? -- Finbarr

[edit] Number of skills learned

How many skills you can learn with one Tome? Only one, or all unlocked skills? And with an Elite? Shouldn't this be added in a way? — FHM TALKS 05:56, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

I think it's one skill per tome, but I'm not completely sure. I've altered the descriptions to reflect that assumption. -- Gordon Ecker 06:01, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

The item description when you mouse over them says "Uses remaining:1" and I haven't found anyone who has received a tome offering more than one use yet Fox (talk|contribs) 10:43, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

And they're not going to. It also says that about Pumpkin Pie and Ale unless they're stacked.--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:67.172.5.190 .

[edit] Gallery

Shall we make a gallery on this page with each icon for each tome? Will look much better than adding them all to the infobox (unless Smurf or somebody does some heavy retouching). I could remove the inventory BG and dropshadow it, but I would rather let Smurf or someone do it since they probably have a standard on dropshadow positioning. I have an elite mesmer tome. If needed, I can upload a screenie. File:Esig2.jpg Eldin 10:29, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

A gallery would be nice - guildwiki have beaten us to that one lol - but if someone can come up with evenly sized icons then it would be a good idea, yes Fox (talk|contribs) 10:43, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

As a matter of interest - are those of you using "recent" browsers seeing the icons with a transparent background? I'm stuck with IE6 (on NT4 :/) at the moment, and they have a black background which looks terrible. It gives the optical illusion that the whole image-box is skewed. --Snograt 13:51, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

You are correct, they are jpgs with black backgrounds, and they definitely do look skewed! We've been trying to use white backgrounds on GuildWiki. — kyrasantae 15:40, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

Heh, silly me - if I'd bothered to actually look at the file type, I'd have known. PNGs is where it's at ^_^ --Snograt 15:53, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

I have added a table for the gallery, all we need now is the images :) --Lemming64 19:40, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

Both .png and .gif can have transparent BGs, naturally .pngs are better quality. I don't know about the necro icon, but that icon in the infobox (the larger one) was stole-err, borroed, from the Hard Mode Facts Sheet. I'm about to upload the elite mesmer icon, BTW. (Yes it's transparent'd) File:Esig2.jpg Eldin 19:56, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

The mesmer and ele non elite tome images seem to be of a different quality than the rest. --Lemming64 17:35, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

I haven't collected good pics of them yet, that's all. Let them drift in. — kyrasantae 12:02, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Drop research

Observed drops for Skill Tome

Mode	Type	Dropped by	Location	Signature
H		Skree Tracker	Vehjin Mines	MSorglos 15:39, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
H		Restless Dead	Jokanur Diggings	-- ab.er.rant 22:05, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
H		Stalking Nephila	Lahtenda Bog	Indecision 03:19, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
H	elite	Locked Chest	Mehtani Keys	MSorglos 16:31, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
H		Tusked Howler	Bahdok Caverns	Gordon Ecker 18:47, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
H	elite	Locked Chest	Witman's Folly	Heach 09:34, 28 April 2007 (EDT)
H		Grawl Crone	Witman's Folly	Heach 09:34, 28 April 2007 (EDT)
H	elite	Locked Chest	Tomb of the Primeval Kings	80.100.166.50 19:23, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
H		Bladed Termite	Zehlon Reach	Indecision 07:40, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Mantid Parasite	Saoshang_Trail	MSorglos 07:50, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Corsair Raider	Zehlon Reach	Indecision 07:57, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Corsair Raider	Zehlon Reach	Indecision 22:41, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Corsair Flogger	Lahtenda Bog	-- ab.er.rant 01:53, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Stoneflesh Mandragor	Lahtenda Bog	-- ab.er.rant 02:26, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
H	elite	Locked Chest	Tomb of the Primeval Kings	80.100.166.50 02:13, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Corsair Raider	Zehlon Reach	Indecision 08:47, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Awakened Defiler	The Sulfurous Wastes	--Bane of Worlds (talk • contribs) 10:49, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Awakened Cavalier	The Sulfurous Wastes	--Bane of Worlds (talk • contribs) 12:27, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Carven Effigy	The Sulfurous Wastes	Tedium 02:06, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Carven Effigy	The Sulfurous Wastes	Tedium 23:24, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
H	2x elite	Locked Chest	The Ruptured Heart	--Lemming64 19:18, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Hydra	Skyward Reach	Fox (talk|contribs) 07:53, 19 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Enchanted Sword	Skyward Reach	Fox (talk|contribs) 07:53, 19 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Awakened Defiler	The Sulfurous Wastes	Tedium 01:34, 20 May 2007 (EDT)
H		Luxon Assassin	Melandru's Hope	Gordon Ecker 06:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
H		Fungal Wallow	Melandru's Hope	Gordon Ecker 05:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
H		Corsair Bosun	Zehlon Reach	Indecision 10:38, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
H		Graven Monolith	The Sulfurous Wastes	Dashface 08:48, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
H	elite	Hajkor, Mystic Flame	The Sulfurous Wastes	Gordon Ecker 09:30, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
H		Mandragor Terror	The Sulfurous Wastes	Gordon Ecker 03:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
H		Whistling Thornbrush	The Mirror of Lyss	Gordon Ecker 03:46, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
H		Graven Monolith	The Sulfurous Wastes	Gordon Ecker 07:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
H	(elite)	Tanmahk the Arcane	The Sulfurous Wastes	Gordon Ecker 10:48, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
H		Margonite Sorcerer	The Sulfurous Wastes	Gordon Ecker 06:05, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
H		Awakened Acolyte	The Sulfurous Wastes	Tedium 03:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
H	(elite)	Locked Chest	The Sulfurous Wastes	Bigtimer14785 03:33, 10 August 2007 (EDT)
H	(elite)	Locked Chest	The Sulfurous Wastes	Gordon Ecker 02:38, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
H	(elite)	Tanmahk the Arcane	The Sulfurous Wastes	Gordon Ecker 05:33, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
H		Graven Monolith	The Sulfurous Wastes	Gordon Ecker 05:17, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
H		Diamond Djinn	The Sulfurous Wastes	Gordon Ecker 08:47, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
H		Mandragor Terror	The Sulfurous Wastes	Gordon Ecker 07:19, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
H		Stormseed Jacaranda	Plains of Jarin	Tedium 09:21, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
H	(elite)	Hauseh the Defiler	The Sulfurous Wastes	Gordon Ecker 06:51, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
H		Jade Brotherhood Knight	Wajjun Bazaar	Troy Frostwind 01:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
H		Awakened Dune Carver	The Sulfurous Wastes	Tedium 21:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
H	(elite)	Locked Chest	The Sulfurous Wastes	Tedium 10:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
H		Sickened Guard	Minister Cho's Estate	«troy frostwind­» 19:22, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
H		Snowman	Secret Lair of the Snowmen	Tedium 02:24, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
H		Awakened Thought Leech	The Alkali Pan	Tedium 02:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
H		Am Fah Assassin	Wajjun Bazaar	Tedium 00:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
H		Margonite Bowmaster	The Sulfurous Wastes	--GreyGhost 04:32, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
H	(elite)	Locked Chest	The Sulfurous Wastes	--GreyGhost 04:32, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
H	elite	Locked Chest	North Kryta Province	--Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 17:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
H		Bog Skale	North Kryta Province	--Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 21:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
H		Lieutenant Mahgma	Fronis Irontoe's Lair	68.118.193.108 22:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
H	(elite) x2	Locked Chest x2	Ring of Fire (mission)	201.66.182.26 07:46, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
H	Elite	Chehbaba Roottripper	Mount Qinkai	Titan Crow 21:51 21 July 2009 (UTC)
H	Elite	Byzzr Wingmender	Melandru's Hope	Titan Crow 21:55 21 July 2009 (UTC)
H	Elite	Sourbeak Rotshell	Silent Surf	Titan Crow 21:55 21 July 2009 (UTC)
H	Elite	Yammiron, Ether Lord	The Mirror of Lyss	Titan Crow 21:59 21 July 2009 (UTC)
H	Elite	Tahmu	Nahpui Quarter (mission)	Titan Crow 22:04 21 July 2009 (UTC)
H	Elite	Tahkayun Tsi	Kinya Province	Titan Crow 22:08 21 July 2009 (UTC)
H	Elite	Chkkr Brightclaw	Melandru's Hope	Titan Crow 22:10 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't really see the point in this, any monsters in hard mode has a chance to drop a skill tome, and any boss has a chance to drop an elite one. --Lemming64 17:34, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

It's information for information's sake. This can confirm what's already known and can confirm that drops are creature profession-dependent. It might even help identify the profession of some creatures whose profession is not known. If it the end it turns out to be pointless, then this can be summarised and discarded. -- ab.er.rant 22:05, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Also just looking at the above, but we may discover that skill tomes only drop from their corresponding professions NPCs (of course, if we have one conflicting report, that very preliminary theory goes out the window quickly), but its nice to be confirmed one way or the other :). --Indecision 22:21, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Yeh, they only drop their corresponding profession tome. — Skuld 04:02, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

Though if a Paragon or Dervish one dropped in Tyria or Cantha, that would be interesting. -- Dashface 08:51, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

Also of note, the Ranger Tome dropped by the Corsair Raider above was a secondary drop (the same Raider also dropped a Longbow). Not sure if this is normal drop behaviour for Tomes, has anyone else found them as additional drops? --Indecision 07:57, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

Interesting... though I've never seen it in all my grand total of 4 skill tomes :D Could it have been two raiders who died at the same time? -- ab.er.rant 01:53, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

Definitely not, I was paying attention at the time, and there was no other raiders around :). I think I'm up to about 10 tomes or so, only one as an additional so far. --Indecision 03:44, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

I saw someone in the Tomb of the Primeval Kings picking up "2 Elite Mesmer Tomes" as a lockedchest drop. Can someone confirm that it is possible for them to drop in pairs? 80.100.166.50 03:08, 6 May 2007 (EDT)

Confirmed, I just got 2 elite monk tomes from a locked chest together :D --Lemming64 19:17, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

As an addition, bone fiends in Cathedral of Flames drop ranger tomes, for those "creatures whose profession is not known". Darksong Knight 17:38, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I just started to do my elite skill title so have taken to farming my Elite Tomes in an effort to save money and have added 7 Eliet Tome drops, 1 for each profession I have got so far. The time in me signature is the time I added each one and not the time I got the drop. I got all the drops in the last few days though. In regards to Tomes dropping at the same time as other items, I've had that a few times now, I've even had greens drop with an Elite Tomes. Titan Crow 22:25 21 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Well read

Anyone else think that reading tomes should give you wisdom progress? -- Dashface 07:28, 28 April 2007 (EDT)

Good idea! - BeX 08:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

They already give you Skill Hunter Progress though.--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:67.172.5.190 .

[edit] move proposal

I suggest no, they are named Tomes in game if you read the text of one, I realise this is a generic name for 20 different items but I don't see why the move is needed in this case. --Lemming 16:10, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Move fits with GWW:NAMING because it's not a proper noun. - BeX 16:19, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

"Use the same name as the in-game "label" - the in game label states Tome not tome. --Lemming 16:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

That is directly under "Use the exact in-game spelling for proper nouns". - BeX 16:33, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PvP editions

If someone has the PvP edition of campaign X but not the regular version, can they use skill tomes to learn skills from that campaign? -- Gordon Ecker 10:45, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

You need to have the skill unlocked to get via a Tome Which means the skill is already avaible for evry PvP charr--Fox007 20:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gaining Exp

Would i gian Exp if its an elite tome? if so could i get to lvl 20 without a second proffesion? -81.77.127.154 21:32, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

The gaining of experience by the capturing of an elite skill with a signet is made possible by the effects of the signet, not the capturing. So no, especially since you are not capturing the skill but merely learning it. The second question is extremely irrelevant, but I will answer it in that the purpose of not having a second profession is also extremely irrelevant. In Prophecies, you can get to level 20 through death leveling (See Defender of Ascalon) in Pre-Searing, but to leave you must complete the Path to Glory quest, which is preceded by the secondary profession quest. In Factions, the secondary prof quest is also a primary quest, and makes your goal even more unreachable based on the fact that you cannot progress to the higher level areas before going further in the storyline. In Nightfall, the impossibility of this is between the other campaigns, as death leveling is possible, but you will not be able to do any missions beyond the very first. I hope that helps, or rather hinders, your plans to be marked as a noob in your choices. But then again, this is so verbose you probably won't read it. Chaiyo Kaldor 17:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Second Proffession

Would a creature with 2 proffession like a W/E Charr Bladestorm als drop a warrior tome and a elementalist tome --Fox007 20:49, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] General Picture for the article?

I found this in gw.dat. Looks slightly diffrent then other tomes. Does anyone know what this could be? Or if there is a pic for a "common" tome? —ZerphaThe Improver 14:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

On guild wiki they use two generic images for the tomes that were on the gw.com website when tomes were first introduced. I think a generic picture like those or this one is misleading as there is no item that uses that image in the game. So it would purely be for aesthetic purposes. --Lemming 18:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Titles

Will using an elite tome to learn a skill bugger my Elite (whatever) Skill Hunter track?--Glenforder 04:54, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Nope, if you have a lot of money it makes it a darn sight easier. --Snograt 06:17, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

The day I bought NF, unlocked WotSin and then got it with an elite assa tome, i got 1 point towards elonian skill hunter. Ninjas In The Sky 09:36, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Elite skills you learn through an elite tome do count for Skill Hunter title track. - 201.66.182.26 07:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Probability

What is the probability that a boss drop an elite tome? Is somehow variable?82.58.195.177 21:06, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Im also curious, does anyone know the drop chance? Or if its mentioned anywhere on wiki, could someone please point me to it. Titan Crow 17:37 11 July 200p (UTC)

[edit] trade

are these tomes tradable --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:209.226.132.43 (talk). can these tomes be freely traded to players even in normal mode? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:209.226.132.43 (talk).

Of course. Calor 20:23, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bug

i experienced an odd bug today, where the trading session was cancelled when trying to trade an elite warrior tome for 5k. Didn't work until i put a bolt of cloth in the first slot, and he traded me a piece of cloth and an unidentified blue spear as well as the money. I didn't think to test it further, can anyone else test this? it was between a W/E and a Me/Mo, in the eye of the north, trading a tome found in the COF in hard mode on the same mesmer. has anyone seen this bug before? 24.108.208.160 03:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

He didn't have room in his inventory... thats why he offered you two things and the money, and you offered 2. It came out even and in the end he had a full inventory again.--67.86.113.242 16:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I had the same issue last night (August 12.) and we both had room in inventory. Elite sin tome from sin to sin and 4k was the amount of money. Would it be something to do with some kind of trade fix? Didn't try with Tome to me and cash + item to him, so can't be sure. --Tj --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:212.54.17.197 (talk).

[edit] Price

Hey i have a question how much r they worth????? 68.35.221.239 23:57, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

That question would be better answered in a fansite or forum like GWGuru... or just by going to Lion's Arch and checking the buy/sell list. We try to avoid giving that information here as it may be misused.--Fighterdoken 23:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Secondary Prof.

Can a warrior/paragon use a paragon tome to learn a paragon skill?71.132.154.40 17:32, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Calor 17:33, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Remember however, the skill has to already be unlocked on the player's account. -- Wyn 18:27, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Useless Note !

"It rarely happens that one can get two tomes (either regular or elite tome) of the same profession from one Locked Chest. "

Its a matter of statistic... it is like playing dice, there is always less chance to get a double, than any other combination.... Elephant 08:39, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I believe what the note is attempting to express is that sometimes when you open a locked chest, you'll get two tomes instead of one (of the same type and profession, with one lockpick usage). It's rare, but it does happen. The note could be better-worded, though. - Tanetris 08:50, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

The note is also vague. Does this mean that a locked chest does not have a bias on not dropping the same tome twice? Also, does it mean that it is not possible to get a regular tome and an elite tome tome for the same profession? -Decollete 04:37, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

It means that sometimes a chest will drop a small stack of tomes rather than a single tome. I've clarified the note. -- Gordon Ecker 04:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I was just guessing. I haven't seen a tome (nor tomes) drop from a chest before. - Decollete 17:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

GWG topic about more-than-one tome dropping from the same chest (for the same character).

Seems the game will randomly choose what loot each player will get before they open the Locked Chest (probably when the chests spawn in the map). If more than one player would get the same Tome/Elite Tome/other stackable(?), they'll drop as a stack instead of individually dropping one tome per player.

Another thread also says that this (multiple drops for one player) could make the chest to become "empty" to other player.

Never heard of anyone getting multiple tomes from a locked chest when doing H&H or soloing. Sure, maybe I just didn't really search that much... --NIN37 13:48, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Use of Normal Tomes

I utterly fail to understand the need for these tomes in non-elite. I already have a method for learning skills that have been unlocked on my account: the nearest skill trainer. What am I missing here?JgzMan 02:08, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

A found ome equals 1 platinum for the skill trainer. Additionally many players will sell most tomes for less then 1 platinum resulting in some money saved. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 02:09, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Time for a tome trader NPC?

Maybe a tome trader similar to the mats traders? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Aro (talk).

That is simply pointless. What would Skill trainers do in the game if there was a Tome Trader? For that, then Anet just would need to allow all kill trainers to train all the available skills. No. -Inflame 10:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Tome's can't be used to learn skills unless you've already unlocked them, and only skill trainers can teach Signet of Capture. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 08:41, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. The way prices are going with farming, when's the last time you actually got a skill from the trainer? Personally visit hero skill trainers or buy a cheap tome if a skill requirement pops up, no point spending 1k. It's a convenience thing instead of Spamadan for an hour unloading your 70 sin tomes or 50 mes tomes. Aro 07:50, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure about normal skill tomes (as said before, kind of covered by the skill trainers); however, an Elite Tome Trader would be nice (kind of like a Rare Scroll Trader). It would still force the person to unlock the elite on their account before learning it, and it may help keep tome prices stable. As for downsides, it allows for quicker access to Elite Tomes, but I really don't think ANet wants us to be spending an hour in Kamadan just to buy a tome. Blood Red Giant 08:07, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Class-specific drops?

Do these drop from any enemy? Or are they class-specific? Like, do Necromancer tomes only drop from enemy Necromancers? Aldarik 14:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

AFAIK, tomes only drop from their corresponding enemy classes. Enemy Monks don't drop Ranger tomes. Elysea 03:57, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Elite Mesmer Tomes in NF

I noticed while trying to farm Eshim Mindclouder for Elite Mesmer Tomes, that he does'nt drop them (or hasn't yet after about 100 kills by me and 50 by someone else). So I went to farm Yammiron, Ether Lord instead and got nothing from him either, I have only done him 20+ times so far though but I just thought I'd post this here to save time doing it another how-ever-many times more before I find out that they don't drop.

If someone could confirm that they do drop in NF, then I reckon that it's a problem with Eshim and if I keep on with Yammiron, I'll get one eventually. In the event of it being Eshim, I'll mention it on his talk page again. Cheers. Titan Crow 18:36 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I left a comment on Eshim's page asking the person that killed him 50 times "did you find another Mesmer boss to farm?" and he just replyed "Rual, Stealer of Hope is a decent farm, though she has a crappy drop rate as well. I get a tome once every 20 runs or so, I think. But I don't think it's a bug, I think it's something more to the order of ANet realizing that bosses really close to outposts were going to get farmed, and they decreased the drop rates accordingly". So that confirms that they do drop in NF and gives a very good possible reason why Eshim hasn't droped one yet.

So you can all ignore my little conversation with myself, as I've asked and answered myown question, lol. Titan Crow 19:13 14 July 2009 (UTC)