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Just a Trivia Check

I was just wondering if the the floating head that appears on the first floor here is a reference to the way Jor-El appears to Superman in the Fortress of Solitude. --Broodling67 04:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm actually not sure. I'll track down what artist fleshed out that map and ask them. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 19:05, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
It's not a direct reference to Jor-El - this was a design motif for one of the races that was a part of the Utopia campaign, and it got repurposed when we shifted to designing the expansion pack. --Matthew Medina 20:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I love learning little tid bits like this, and now I really want to see what the Utopia campaign would have been like. Thanks for the response, you guys are the best for taking the time out of your busy schedules to answer little questions like this, it is really appreciated.
P.S. I'm really paranoid about insulting people so I just wanna say that when I linked to the article about Jor-El it was only because I rarely get the opportunity to use external links and I just felt like linking something, not because I didn't think you knew who Jor-El was. --Broodling67 23:39, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Edielh Shockhunter

I don't suppose that boss is named after you is it? ^_^ Sirocco 00:41, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

The is incredibly tenuous, besides starting with an E and containing an l and an i, what other similarities do the names have? --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 15:08, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Probably the fact that Edielh is E. Dielh. Could be a coincidence, but not what I'd call tenuous. Ale_Jrb (talk) 15:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
There's not even any switching of letters going on - the mobs name is her first initial and last name. A very clear reference (although I hate Trivia, so no worries on the removal from the boss' page!) --Mystisteel 15:17, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Took me a while to figure out (-_-), but the L and H are swapped around - E. Diehl becomes Edielh User-brains12-scale-sig.png brains12 15:19, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Oh lol, completely missed the E.Didlh thing, *smacks head* feel free to revert my edit to the boss page lol. --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 15:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Done :) User-brains12-scale-sig.png brains12 15:21, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

(reset indent) Gah just realised it is Ediehl, not Edielh User-brains12-scale-sig.png brains12 16:21, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Yep, that's my boss :) Andy made her a bat (since I'm obsessed with them). He said that he wished we'd have made her a Necro, but had to make her an Ele instead for some reason. He added a ton of ArenaNet staff-related easter eggs to the GW:EN boss names, so I am sure you'll find more guys named after different devs. :) --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 18:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Horray I was right! And there's more to be found! Sirocco 20:16, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok gonna make a list hehe:

Skuld 20:28, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be on Andrew McLeod?, he is the one who makes them xD Coran Ironclaw 20:45, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Yep, those are all right. You can post it on his page, or here. It's not hard for me to ask Andy stuff if I need to because he sits next to me :) --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 21:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Is there any I missed? There was a couple I haven't listed which I was unsure about. — Skuld 21:17, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

A Sticky Operation

Can you confirm/deny the strong trivia references in this quest to sperm please? I'm pretty darn sure it is cause of all the Corsair Seamen and what not. - Hyrule 20:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Eh? -- Gem (gem / talk) 20:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Isn't Emily the one who does all the trivia and stuff? - Hyrule 20:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Lmao. Lord Belar 20:58, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Oh dear God... the question is, why would you want to know..? Ale_Jrb (talk) 21:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Its too funny and immature to not know :p - Hyrule 21:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Hilarious. No, really. I haven't stopped laughing... =/ Ale_Jrb (talk) 21:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
w:Captain Pugwash anyone? --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 21:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
No, this is not a reference to that. We try to keep our references PG-13 and in good taste/humor, and putting a reference to that in-game is neither. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 21:59, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow I could've swore it was with Corsair Seamen only appearing in the whole game during this quest. But I was mistaken. Thank you for confirming Emily. - Hyrule 22:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Gloat trivia

Is the trivia listed for Gloat correct to identify this comic as inspiration for Gloat's skill animation. Either way, I laughed so much when I saw this skill! -- Dashface User Dashface.png 09:49, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Dashface! No, the ranking behavior that goes along with Gloat didn't really have any outside inspiration. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 18:12, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Trivia Check #578 (and 579)

User:Bobby Stein disavows responsibility for Bobby the Costume Brawl NPC. Is this another dev's secret homage to him, or is this named after an entirely different Bobby? Also, is the model meant to evoke a major Cylon vibe, or is that just me? - Tanetris 14:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

The model is certainly not new as you can see in the model project: Guild Wars Wiki:Projects/NPC models/Undead --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 13:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
...You know, I've seen that page probably several dozen times, and for some reason it never clicked that they're the same. I blame the angle. Consider this two separate trivia checks then! 1: Who's the Bobby?, and 2: Is the Eternal Warrior model supposed to be Cylonish? I'm now guessing not on the latter. - Tanetris 09:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Hehe :) Oddly enough, this NPC was not named after Bobby Stein. You can ask Izzy for more details, but (from what I overheard with my headphones on), this guy's name was a placeholder. The writers must have thought it was funny, so they left it in. We didn't notice it until a bit later, and all the groans in the world couldn't get it changed :) And no, I don't believe that that model has any Cylon reference, although a lot of us are BSG fans. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 01:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Blood And Smoke trivia

Is Dark Oak's second dialogue a reference to the upcoming events of Nightfall? Because Nightfall came out 18 months after Prophecies, and likely close too two years after you guys thought up most of Prophecies. It seems to close to be pure coincidene...but you never know. Calor - talk 23:23, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

The part about consulting certain powers or the part about the lion and the angels / vultures? I'm pretty sure the lion is Kryta and the angels / vultures are the Mursaat. -- Gordon Ecker 01:02, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Ya, but reading it over it seems too close to be sheer coincidence...but hey, maybe im totally wrong. Calor - talk 01:49, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't really know this answer for sure. I will check with Jeff and see what he has to say about it. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 02:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Yikes! Sorry it's taken so long to get back to you about this, guys! I was able to talk to the writers, and they confirmed that this was not a reference to the coming of Nightfall. They did mention that if it lined up that way, that it's a pretty cool coincidence, though :) --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 23:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

The Great Dwarf, Thor and their respective hammers

Was the Hammer of the Great Dwarf in any way based on Thor's? I ask because of Talk:Great Dwarf#Thor and the many revisions of the trivia section of the article. Thanks in advance for a response. talk br12 • 17:58, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi br12! I spoke with the writers and they told me that no, the hammer was not based on the hammer of Thor. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 23:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


Hi Emily. I'm not really sure if this is trivia or a mistake or what, but you've always been good about helping with questions, so I come to you. At the end of The Flight North, there's a group of Ebon Vanguard, including Captain Langmar, Anton, and Weststar's unit who we know from Falling Out. The thing is, in The Flight North, he's Captain Weststar, but in GW:EN, he's Sergeant Weststar. Did he get demoted in the intervening years? Or was this a mistake when making the bonus mission? - Tanetris 08:43, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Maybe they're father and son :) -- sig 09:35, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Hiya guys! This is actually a bug. John will be putting a fix in for the names sometime in the future. Thanks for noticing the issue :) --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 23:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Replacement Healers trivia

Does that quest title have anything to do with The Replacement Killers, perchance? --84-175 (talk) 07:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello 84! I've confirmed with the designers that yes, this is a nod to the movie. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 01:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Ha! Got another one! Thanks Emily. :) --84-175 (talk) 15:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Sure :) --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 19:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

NPC name trivia

Is there any relation between Ian Sturmme and John Stumme? ;) --84-175 (talk) 15:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

He sure is! John also hinted that there is a Kurzick named after him somewhere too, so keep an eye out for that guy too. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 19:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
These guys were named after me back when I was an Alpha Tester (there's quite a lot of NPCs named after various testers in the game!) Just so people don't think I'm going around naming NPCs after myself - because if I was, they'd have a much more epic name, like Awesome McRockenstein. User John Stumme sig.gifJohn Stumme 19:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Hey! I want an NPC like that too! Although, Andrew did name a bat boss after me, which screams Emily more than anything else in our game. If only she was a Necro :) --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 19:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I can totally get you an awesome NPC, but I think it might be cooler to make a unique weapon and name it "The Deathdiehler." User John Stumme sig.gifJohn Stumme 07:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Jaun Stumi ofc :p — Skuld 22:00, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Jaun is clearly the most debonair and emo of my alter-egos. I heard he was a big hit with the crowd at the Warped Tour last year. User John Stumme sig.gifJohn Stumme 07:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

The Deathdiehler would actually make a nice weapon name. Sry forgot to sign. MageMontu 07:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree, if the boss named after you can't be a necromancer there should atleast be The Deathdiehler. -- BroodlingUser Broodling67 sig.PNG 16:07, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Just incase you didn't know, her boss is an ele: Ediehl Shockhunter :) — Skuld 18:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
That's you Emily?! You and your friends gave me a little trouble whilst I was vanquishing, how could you? :p Lyra ValoUser Lyra Valo LVsig.jpg 18:16, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Awww, "The Deathdiehler" is a cute idea :) And sorry for my little brood laying down the pwn in hard mode. It's comical that I'm an ele, because I have the hardest time against Ele bosses when I play (so I generally try to avoid them if I can help it). --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 19:30, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
That's because eles own. :P MageMontu 07:50, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Tried to kill yourself yet? :P Lord Belar 02:25, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Technobabble trivia ?

Hi, I know this one's a long shot but everytime I look at this skill I can't help but think about the Alan Parsons Project's song psychobabble. Any trivia involved here ? Thnx in advance ^^ Erszebet 12:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

One would have thought it's a general play on the jargon term technobabble, if you think about how the jargon is used to confuse people or obfuscate information, the Dazed effect of the spell makes sense. BramStoker (talk, contribs) 12:52, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, didn't know that. Erszebet 14:59, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Hiya Erszebet! Bram's response is correct for this skill. "Technobabble" is in reference to the term. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 00:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Grenth's Balance

the trivia note currently says grenth's used to be named "chiron's balance," but the reference didn't seem especially meaningful. was the skill actually named "charon's balance"? --VVong|BA 14:10, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello Wongba! I checked with Izzy and he confirmed that the original skill name was "Charon's Balance". --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 00:35, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thanks!! --VVong|BA 00:47, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Tuhnan's Cousin

Hey, could you confirm if Tuhnan's dialogue about his cousin Vini is a refrence to the movie My Cousin Vinny? thanks! --User Gummy Joe Sig Icon.PNGGummy Joe 21:36, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Hiya Gummy! I checked with Bobby this morning, and he confirmed that this text is indeed a reference to the film :) --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 19:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Anet's CMM level?

Did Anet ever get evaluated with CMM before? If so, what level did you guys obtained? Lightblade 20:10, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I've honestly never heard of that before, so I couldn't say. I'm guessing no, though. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 22:26, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Lightblade, you can find companies' CMMI levels at [1]. Note that you won't find any game development companies on this list, though. Probably no developers of retail software at all, actually. Most of these are either defense contractors or software development companies seeking contracts with the government or other large organizations. If you want to write software to sell to Boeing for use in the 797 avionics system for a few million dollars, you might be interested in seeking CMMI evaluation. If you're looking to sell software to consumers off the shelves of Best Buy for $59, it'd be a waste of your time and money. -- 01:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Ironfist Gauntlets

are these a reference to tekken? --VVong|BA 14:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure, Wongba. I'm trying to track that down for you, though. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 22:32, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Hiya Wongba! I just found out that nope, these are not a reference to Tekken. It's just a coincidence. Sorry that took so long :) --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 19:49, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
np, thanks for checking. --VVong|BA 19:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Missing boss or false information?

Hi Emily. I was wondering if you could check to see if a boss by the name of "Harth Mendbranch" exists. Until a bit ago, it was a red link on our Vengeance article, copied there from the GuildWiki page on that skill. It was originally added there by Tetris L, back in August 2005, saying it spawned in Talmark Wilderness, but neither GuildWiki nor GWW ever made a page on the boss itself. Some helpful GuildWikians cleared Talmark Wilderness and could not find the boss. Just wanted to confirm whether Tetris L was mistaken in the first place, the boss was removed for some reason in the intervening 2.5 years, or if there's some bug preventing the boss from spawning (wouldn't be the first time)? Thanks much. - Tanetris 22:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

at some point i think he existed. found this from google search:
Profession: Monk
Level: 18
Armor Level: 54
Description: Dmg 8-21 (R-Holy)
Protective Spirit
Holy Strike
Healing Breeze
--VVong|BA 22:21, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Even a picture here, I am going to create an article --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 22:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi guys! I'm checking with Andrew about this for you. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 01:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Harth Mendbranch can be found in Majesty's Rest, not Talmark Wilderness. He will spawn, though he's a rare spawn at two locations, and does not appear until you approach him, like the other reed stalkers in the area, so it would likely take several tries to find him. The skills listed by VVong are correct, though he should be level 22. He shares spawn locations with another boss, Psion Tanglebranch. One of the spawn locations is a short ways north from the portal to Talmark Wilderness, so it would likely be possible to run between zones until he spawns.--Andrew McLeod 20:54, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


Some people have said the blindfold is a reference to the blindfold Neo wears at the end of the Matrix Revolutions. Could you confirm this, or let us know if it is a reference to something else? Someone else suggested that it was in homage of Kormir! :) Thanks! - BeX iawtc 00:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Or, it may just be a cool headgear. Lord Belar 00:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
As the saying goes, sometimes a blindfold is just a blindfold. - Tanetris 00:28, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I think it would be cool if its a reference to Kormir. But yeah, sometimes people just pull things out of the air. o_O - BeX iawtc 01:04, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I like the Kormir thing, but this just seems like one of those made up ones. If we add this, which king is the crown a reference to? :P Lord Belar 01:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
obv - BeX iawtc 01:41, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Actually, when I mentioned Kormir, it was more of a joke. I think they just noticed it looked good with the blindfold and added it. No reference anywhere. — Galil Talk page 01:09, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I doubt it's a reference to anything, it's just a piece of cloth... — Eloc 22:16, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I'd doubt that this is a reference to Neo, but I can try to find out for you guys. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 01:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
There's a long artistic tradition of justice/truth being depicted as a person wearing a blindfold as a symbol of impartiality, starting from Renaissance times. See w:Lady Justice, for example. I thought it was just following in that tradition. -- Hong 05:55, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Or possibly just a reference to the general cool ninja who can fight blindfolded :) Given the game and movie references used, a rather long stretch might also be Jinx from GI Joe. --BramStoker (talk, contribs) 12:40, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
But she doesn't actually fight while blindfolded. She's quite the liability, actually. Keeps bodyblocking people.... -- Hong 13:21, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Statue of Female Warrior

Some found a text file in the .dat that said that the Statue is the crystal desert is called Lonely Vigil. Is this true? ~ SCobraUser-SuperCobra-Sig.png 15:40, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Is this the thread? you're referring to? --Xasxas256 15:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Incidentally, can you share with us how much of this new information can be considered canonical? --Santax (talk · contribs) 16:03, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
In all fairness, that thread refered to said nothing of the sort, SCobra is just reading an interpretation into it:
Lonely Vigil
Statue of a warrior in the far northwest, facing unknown lands
Not to mention that all the locations extracted are clearly in Elona, whereas the crystal desert statue strictly isn't in Elona/NF. --BramStoker (talk, contribs) 22:50, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
There is no other warrior statue and you can even see it from somewhere in the Crystal Desert Desolation. poke | talk 23:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Aye, it's a key feature of the Arid Sea in Tyria, and can also be seen from certain points in Crystal Overlook in Elona. It'd be interesting to get confirmation one way or another ;) --BramStoker (talk, contribs) 23:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Interesting, it looks like they were considering a much more detailed version of the map marker system introduced in Nightfall, too bad they couldn't implement it. -- Gordon Ecker 03:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I wonder what ArenaNet's position on the canon status of cut content is. Arachnia seems like a good candidate for Abaddon's predecessor. -- Gordon Ecker 04:28, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Sorry guys :( I really can't comment on things that aren't released that are dug up from the .dat file. We may release more lore details about various things at a later date, but I don't know any specifics about this, or any timeframe on this. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 19:56, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Forgeman and Oola

Can you tell us why there are Sorrow's Furnace-like Forge Men in Oola's Lab, and what relation the original Forgeman/Stone Summit has to Oola/Asura if any? Thanks! --Ravious 13:49, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I can ask around about this for you! I'm crazy busy today, but I'll send off some emails :) --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 23:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Hiya Ravious! I asked around about this and was told that Oola is interested in all sorts of magical constructs. She stumbled onto the Ironforgeman while exploring underground and dragged it to her workshop for reverse engineering. Hope this helps :) --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 19:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Oh yes it helps ! I was thinking she was some kind of mercenary engineer that created it for the stone summit^^. Gls to hear it was the opposite, she found the remnants and works on it. lussh 19:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


Is Drunken Master a reference to the Jackie Chan movies?--MP47 (Talk) (Contr.) 21:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Hiya Marco! Yes, this skill is a reference to the movies. --UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk) 20:21, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Just makin' sure.--MP47 (Talk) (Contr.) 22:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)