Talk:Hall of Monuments/Archive3

Reserve Character Name?

I think I read something like, if you create a character in Guild Wars, and then get a HoM on it, then your "Name" is reserved for use in GW2. I would like to know if we have any information on how this works. Could it be:

• Having a full hall
• Merely all tapestries displayed
• Merely one tapestry displayed
• Merely going into the hall (no tapestries)

etc...

I would like to know this because I'm worried about being able to use my names in GW2. I want to know what have have to do, in time to do it for all the character's names I want to preserve. Please help if you can Gaile!!! -- RavenJWolfe 09:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Having a full hall is a lot of work even for a dedicated player. Even having all tapestries takes some work if you have to do that with every character. Also, PvP characters can't access the HoM. My hunch is that just having the character named reserves the spot. Alaris 19:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

But no one can guarantee you that this will happen we just have to wait longer till A-Net made desions around this and decided that they will tell there players --Fox007 21:04, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I would think owning GWEN and entering a hall for that char would allow the Reserved name. That would be the best marketing route if you ask me. Requiring you to have GWEN which creates the bridge between two worlds. Might seem unfair but Marketing is a powerful force not to be messed with :) but thats just my thoughts.. Chik En 18:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I have read about the name reservation as well. Although I don't recall where I saw it, the source seemed reliabe. Effigy 03:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Names

how do the name reservation work.. do i need to make a plaync account or is a normal GW account enough? 90.184.169.229 20:45, 16 November 2009 (UTC) Okay, I know I'm going to feel really stupid after I get the answers back, but I really wanted to know. I saw that they switched over to account based, but I just wanted a little clarification on this. Does that mean that if I have character "Bob" and character "Jack" on GW1, and on Bob I add a certain title and on Jack I add a certain hero, will character "Tim" on GW2 get both the title and the hero? Thanks in advance for answering my stupid questions! -«troy frostwind­» 04:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't know, but I'm sure we will find out after this weeks update. --Arduinna 13:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I don't think that is a stupid question and I think we are all wanting the answer to that. I hope it is like that and not like. "Bob's" achievements only go to "Bob's" great great grandson. Which would be one characters achievements go to only one character on GW2.

Hall of Monuments; Are we wasting our time and money??

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what is the point of a HoM i mean there is no point right -jo jo

Hi Gaile.

Tried to ask you about HoM when you were in Shing Jea today, but I don't know if I got a good answer. Many players are wondering how the connection between HoM and Guild Wars 2 are going to work. We have had a few discussions about this in my alliance recently but we don't seem to find a good explanation of how its going to work. The one explanation we think is the most accurate is that one character from Guild Wars 2 will inherit the HoM from one of the characters from Guild Wars, but how would that work if I create a Charr? Charrs and Humans are not related to one another. While I was in Shing Jea, I saw a lot of players that was questioning the fact that only the names from Guild Wars was going to be inherited to the Guild Wars 2 account. If thats the case, then we have been wasting our time and money to max out our HoM:s. I think ArenaNet really needs to clarify how the connection between the 2 games are going to work. If players realize at the release of GW2, that they have been wasting a lot of time and money to max their HoM, nobody knows for sure what players reactions are going to be like. You might not be able to reveal all the secrets but you could atleast tell us if we are wasting our time or not. Thanks, Arthas The Warrior -- Treasure Boy 23:01, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh really, why cant people just read the archieves? It has been said over and over and over and over, that gaile has no news on this as its too early and that no one is forcing you to max the HoM, so if you don't want to take the chance then wait til gw2 comes out and then try and max everything. until then however anet and gaile owe you nothing and that includes answers to this question. *shakes head at the demanding tone some people use when asking questions* -- Salome 23:12, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Because the archives aren't exactly prominently placed. I'm betting the HoM is just going to be a room you can visit to drive home exactly how little you accomplished in those four thousand hours of your life. :P --71.229.204.25 23:16, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

No, You are NOT waiting your money for HoM. But know since everyone is wildly farming, title maxing etc. The end rewards may just be luke warm. I still think HoM is a good idea. But chose what you want to max. Maxing it all is a utter waist. 68.151.27.108 23:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

As Salome has implied there have been many discussion on this subject, that in itself tells you something about the interest players have on this subject. Just as you are wanting answers there are many, many players who waiting with you. The answers for the growing questions on the Hall of Monuments seem to be very far off, which is frustrating many players but this page is not for that. Gaile has moved previous discussions from this page in regards to this subject, I suggest you look in the Hall of Monuments page for any updated information and keep an eye on it because that is where updates may be made. House Of Furyan 00:04, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

titles are a waste of time... end of story. 24.141.45.72 02:11, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Different folks, different strokes. If you want to grind for titles, go ahead. enjoy til your heart's content. HoM isn't a required thing to have for GW2 but will certainly make you feel like you've faithful to GW. Renin 02:16, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, maxing titles is a waste of time.......but then again so is playing video games. Right now I doubt there are any hard and fast answers to the questions you ask, only intents, the actual how, and what may not be answered yet. Just be patient, and play the game for what it is right now, not speculate about what it might possibly be. Med Luvin 16:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

what annoys me the most is that there are "account wide and character" titles.. HoM should have been for just ONE of your characters but all you titles from you whole account count towards HoM. Ive maxed my hall, but i really cant say its been fun deciding what character i would max it with. I the end, since i have not heard otherwise, i think its a total waste of time. The whole idea is cool, but the implementation and reward system is unfair. For one that it has to be armor sets, two that you have to have 11 destroyer weapons and three that you have to do everything over again if you want another character to gain the same "mystery" benefits for GW2.

First, for the comment mentioned by Med Luvin above, if you think playing video games is a waste of time, i ask, why are you monitoring this wiki? and if it's just to place those types of comments, i think we'd all thank you to stop. But on the other subject, A-net will probably have some sort of way to distinguish who's hall your character will inherit, syaing i'm the great granson of so-and-so, etc. in teh character customization screen. As fo rthe other races, i can only draw a blank on how it will all tie to together. And if it was only our names beign passed on, what's the point of a whole HoM, so lets all be confident that there will be rewards for us to reap in Gw2, kinda like the biggest, best pre-order package ever. Lord Zepherr 09:13, April 24, 2008 (UTC)

Don't waste your time the rewards will suck like the bonus items. They won't be worth anything anyway because there untradeable.Think about it over 1,000,000 people probly will have the same reward because they filled the valor momument. So whats the point?!?!wiiman00 03:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I have a question about the rewards. Will it matter witch titles or minis or armors you have to get different rewards? For example, will the devotion reward be just for dedicating 20 mini pets or will it matter which mini pets you get? Like will i get something different for having a bone dragon compared to an asura? Same thing with titles. What if i never completed UW or FoW? Will i be missing out on certain rewards for GW2? Also, say I have all my mini pets on one character's HoM but all my titles and accomplishments are on another character. Will that affect anything in GW2. It's frustrating to not know because I don't know what character to put everything on.

HoM devotion question

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If I have added a minipet in my HoM and sell my dedicated minipet then it will still be in my HoM. So does that mean you get still the reward in GW2 , if it is in your hall of monuments, but not anymore in your storage or inventory? Or do you need to keep it in your storage and inventory to reccief the reward for it in GW2? Death Sligher 12:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

After it's dedicated, it can be sold or destroyed. Same goes for all monuments. You can salvage armor and destroyer weapons for scrap once they are added to the hall.--Pyron Sy 15:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

And then you still will get reward in gw2? Death Sligher 15:34, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

If it's in your hall, it's going to count for the reward. So, yes.--Pyron Sy 15:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Of course, nobody has said what the reward is yet. So it might not be anything you wanted. Sadie2k 01:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I thought the designers had said that the devotion alter was the only one which they weren't certain was going to have rewards in GW2. Like all the rest will, but they haven't decided if minipets will equate any reward in gw2. Which kinda makes sense to me, as thats kinda like getting a present for getting a present -- Salome 04:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

If that's been said, I hadn't heard. All I know is that the word is you don't need to retain an item after it's been added. There's no telling what reward, if any, you actually get.--Pyron Sy 04:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

That would seem out of place to have the Devotion monument not give a reward considering this:

" Then, when Guild Wars 2 arrives, each of these monuments will correspond to special features your Guild Wars 2 characters can "inherit" from your own legendary past, giving you access to exclusive titles, companions , weapons, attire, and miniatures. These inherited items are unique: there is no other way within Guild Wars 2 to acquire them." Quote from the Hall of Monuments (may be out of page and need an update if this is now wrong)

Please notice the word each. Anet hasn't confirmed any solid information about the Hall of Monuments bar what has already been released which is very limited, causing a bit of confusion and a lot of questions from the playing community. The Hall of Monuments page is probably the best place for this question. Sligher, might I suggest you check this page Monument of Devotion page. House Of Furyan 05:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I think there's no point asking about it. We'll know when they've made an official announcement. They haven't made any announcements because they're not ready to commit to anything yet, so it's pointless to ask. They just aren't 100% sure of how it will work. They're not waiting for a date to tell you... they're working on it so they have something definite to tell you in the future. -- ab.er.rant 06:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I was only asking if I would need to keep the dedicated items in my storage to get a reward if they give one. If there will be a reward wasn't the question. Death Sligher 14:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

The question of GW2 rewards is a very hot topic at the moment; it's inevitable that any question even tangentally related to the topic of rewards will spawn the above discussion. To actually answer your question: you don't need to keep dedicated items. As long as it's in the HoM, you will get a reward for it -- the original item can be sold or even destroyed and you will still be rewarded. Assuming there is a reward for that specific item, of course. ^^ --Mme. Donelle 06:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

HoM

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Referring to this post has there been any other word on customizing the 'rearrange' algorythm? I am regretting adding all my titles now because I cannot display what I would like to display at the same time... IE. if I want to display Legendary Cartographer, there is no way I can display my Master of the North or Kurzick title at the same time, as they are too far apart on the list or rotation. Whereas, if I had of waited, watching others HoM's and seeing what the statues look like and hand-selecting my personal 5, I'd be able to display those without a problem. Any idea when(if) this will get looked at and possibly changed? — Rappy 00:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe it could be made, so player could choose from the list which titles to show (of course, he could only choose as many titles as there can be shown). --Шєвч [TALK] @ 09:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I have not heard of any changes planned to Hall of Monuments. If I learn more, I will of course be happy to relay it. -- Gaile 06:13, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I think that would be a great thing for the devs to upgrade in the HOM. Make it more user-friendly. :) Foxysheri 02:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Yea... it's somewhat ironic that they called it "rearrange" when it's really just "rotate". -- ab.er.rant 02:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Something along the lines of a drag and drop feature, I'm sure it wouldn't be to difficult to add in and plus would be more user friendly. I myself having 33 achievements in my HoM makes it hard for me to get a good set with the current "rearrange" button, especially with all the maps I own :/ --Kickass 09:31, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Or a "remove from" option would work too, allowing you to remove and re-apply titles. I thought I recalled seeing the ability to remove stuff from one of the other monuments (mini-pets maybe), so if the functionality is there elsewhere, would seem the easiest route to fix this issue. -- Alesain 00:24, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Just checked HoM, I guess I was seeing things with the remove option on mini's. But it's an idea at least! ;P -- Alesain 00:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes a remove option would do the trick for my dire rainbow phoenix and dire jingle bear. I can sell them without any problems to a pet-trainer for 100g, but to remove a dire raven from HoM is impossible yet. Flaming Relic 10:16, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Bugs

I found 2 unusual things while I was just sitting in my HoM: When you use Summon Ruby Djinn and try to get it in front of a tapestry it shows up like it's behind it, while it isn't. Second: when you use Life and the spirit dies, the stands for the Destroyer weapons on the Valor monument are healed. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:62.45.0.165 (talk).

what is gw:en? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:90.208.127.13 (talk).

In the future, sign your comments by typing four tildes (~~~~) after your comments, please. GW:EN is short for Guild Wars: Eye of the North, the expansion this whole page is related to. -- Mafaraxas 16:39, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Additions?

OK, this bit is for those of us who want the devs to add soem stuff to the hall, feel free to add your own suggestions, and please, sign the petition below if youy agree and want these additions added. 1: Make all end game weps dedicatable, and if not all, at least the new prophacies end game weps. 2: Make all gold weps dedicatable, as long as they fulfill these requirements: First they are completley upgraded with all manner of added parts, and an inscription, Second, they are customized to their respective cahracter. 3: Make all Pre-order weps available. ( I mean, when you read about them, it says they're really important to the culture of their creators, and they're not even displayable, which makes me wonder if they were really important at all.) 4: Make all unique(green) items displayable, aslong as they are customized. That's really all I can think of now, so please, iff you agree sign your name, if it's a suggestion, notify that it is first before adding it. Lord Zepherr April 24, 2008 (UTC)

Personally I think making all golds eligible for dedication would be a coding nightmare - depending, that is, on what exactly the GW2 rewards are - but making all green weapons displayable doesn't seem quite so outrageous.

In the alternative, a thought: The present display allows for one of each of two different weapon types (destroyer and tormented)... which means a limited number of slots, each of which is defined by skin and weapon type. I would suggest allowing a green weapon to fill the slot of a destroyer or tormented weapon of the same general type (e.g. wand for wand, sword for sword, etc)... thus rewarding people who have garnered green weapons without necessitating new GW2 reward code. (AUNTMOUSIE) 19:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I guess there is no reward in GW2 for getting 5-10-15-20 or even 24 maxed titles in GW1. Flaming Relic 11:41, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Suggestions on the mechanics of the HoM

I really like the idea mentioned here of GW2 having a HoM displaying the weapons you placed in it in GW1, and then any character you make in GW2 could choose to take them out in the form of a "token", which can be exchanged for a "Legacy" weapon corresponding with the type of weapon in the HoM. The Legacy weapon would be a unique GW2 skin.

This would mean that the GW2 HoM would have to be account-wide, so you can choose which character you created in GW2 is going to "inherit" a weapon. And you'd have to be able to choose any weapon you placed in the HoM. This way you could create multiple classes and select the Legacy weapon you can best use on your new character(s) out of one account-wide HoM.

There is another thing I would like to see:

• Make weapons placed in the HoM dedicated and not customized.
• Make the HoM's of all your characters add up in the GW2 account-wide HoM.

Why? Because now in Gw1 the HoM's are character based. We currently don't know how the Gw2 HoM will work. The way it looks now, it's not wise to spread out all your accomplishments, minipets, hero alite armor and valor weapons across your characters, because you'll end up with multiple half-filled HoM's. So to be on the safe side, people collect stuff like mini's, elite armor for heroes and themselves and destroyer weapons, and add them in the HoM of their MAIN character. This results in two problems imo:

• Because valor weapons get customized, you can only use them on the selected main character and his/her heroes. This makes no sense to me, as I'd like to be able to use these elite weapons on my own characters, not my main characters' heroes. Make them either dedicated or, better yet, make sure all Gw1 HoM's are added up in the Gw2 HoM (which therefore should need to be account wide!), and problem solved.
• As long as we don't know how the Gw2 HoM will work, people that like to hunt for titles and stuff to place in their HoM, will start using their secondary characters less, and their main character more. This results in less variety in classes in the game being played, which is bad imo.

So to conclude: Making the Gw2 HoM account wide AND adding up all achievements, minipets, hero armor, valor-weapons and elite armor from all your GW1 HoM's into the Gw2 HoM would ensure multiple positive things:

• people would no longer feel the need to play ONE main character in Gw1, making the game more diverse again. (title hunting on multiple characters is more fun too imo, unless you want to have a high KoaBD title)
• you could customize whichever weapon you like on whichever character you have on your Gw1 account to their respective HoM's, and continue using them on those characters instead of the main characters heroes. The Gw2 HoM would display them all anyway.
• Having Elite armor on multiple characters would pay off. Of course, elite armor of a certain profession would only be availabe as "legacy" armor in Gw2 to a character of a corresponding class (which doesn't necesarily have to be the same profession, as Gw2 will probably have entirely different classes)
• Double achievements would just be available as "legacy" titles in Gw2 as many times as you achieved them in Gw1. You could choose which characters in Gw2 inherit which titles. Same with double weapons.

Lastly I'd like to see it possible to add ALL end-game greens from ALL campaigns to the HoM. Possibly also tormented weapons. Sjeng 08:29, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you. But I can almost give you a 100 percent guarantee that the hall of monuments will never be collectivly added togther to make one big one in GW2. That would leave the HoM open for abuse. But weapons that have been posted to the HoM should be dedicated instead of customized. Effigy 03:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

How would that leave the HoM open for abuse? I don't see how it could be abused really... could you explain? Sjeng 10:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you ever so much Anet for listening to the suggestions of the community!!! Thank you!! Sjeng 07:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

The rearrange button by itself seems worthless, as it only rotates monuments. We should be able to choose what to display. Also we should be able to add and remove monuments, because lots of people get other/better items later on and it can be filled before. ^^thank you for listening.. Flaming Relic 15:48, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Another HoM statue?

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Why isnt there a stsatye in the HoM for completing the quest "A Time For Heroes"? --Burning Freebies 20:48, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the idea is that the HoM itself is the reward for completing the quest. That being said, I wouldn't mind another statue. 76.120.124.95 03:09, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

You can use HoM waaaay before "A Time For Heroes", so HoM is defenitly not the reward for that quest. --Шєвч [TALK] @ 18:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Freebies -- this sounds almost like a suggestion! Did you want to add it to the GW Suggestions page? (There's a link on the upper right of this page, if you wish.) -- Gaile 03:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Just a few thoughts on the halls??

I think our halls could be greatly beneficial with a few tweaks.

/> Add a "Hall of Monuments" button under the "Guild Hall" button on the "[G] Guild" menu screen.

/> Add a Xunlai Chest inside the HoM.

/> Add the ability to display all of our Festival Hats.

/> I'd also like to see all my Heroes standing around in there... like Vekk, Ogden, & Gwen already are.

/> More weapons to the "Valor" display. (not just tormented..which singles out NF.)

/> Statue of the Great Destroyer in honor of my victory on the "Honor" display. (Eternal Hero of The North)

/> Guild Banner flying somewhere in the hall.

/> The ability to display more PvE titles.. sometimes I think Anet focuses way too much on PvP at the expense of PvE. (imho)

Overall we aren't completely sure what Anet has in store for the HoM & GW2.... so I hope that they think ahead alot and consider all the things we poured ourselves into while playing GW1.. (guilds, titles, quests, etc...) I just say this...cause I was never really into PvP.

Hodjedi 18:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)Hodjedi

1: under H rather than G

2: why not? :P

3: Since there is only one possibility to get them i don't think people should be rewarded for that in gw2

4: I don't really care..

5: Agree

6: Agree

7: Don't care

8: Aren't all pve title displayable in the HoM..? (agree on the pve pvp thing but HoM is one of the few things focused on pve where anet has put allot of effort in

Pulpulpullie 11:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Problem with 2 would be The Eye of the North being an explorable area. --Arduinna 13:13, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

That wouldn't be a problem.. It just hasn't been done before.. Pulpulpullie 17:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Dragging precious items to the storage is a very common action. It would be too easy to drag-n-drop an item on the ground by mistake and log off. When using the storage, a player should be in a controlled environment in order to avoid possible accidents. Vezz 02:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Passage?

Has anybody noticed that behind the Honor monument there seems to be a passage leading up into the blackness? Lord Zepherr 22:56 July 25, 2008 (UTC) Ya supposedly that is your character's crypt for GWs 2 or not just a thought that makes sense and that 3-D floating statue in front of it that shows the KoaBD title track status is possibly your character's casket.

Multiple Accounts

I've not seen any mention to how the HoM will work for those of us with multiple accounts. As it was, when I started playing GW you only had 4 char slots, and so to make all 6 professions, you needed 2 accounts. Add to this the fact I played at weird times for Europe, and I purchased a 3rd account to play in the American districts. What I'm wondering, as I'd asssume the improvements you made in GW will be back again for GW2 (extra char slots, changing servers etc) is how my HoM achievements will transfer over. Can I link multiple accounts for GW to a single GW2 account, or are my combined efforts on these 2nd and 3rd accounts with relation to the HoM for nothing. Is it going to be a PlayNC account based thing, cause my gf and mine accounts are all on the same PlayNC account, so how would that work as we both want separate GW2 accounts? Any information would be appreciated. Thx Magua 15:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

For as far as I know, if you get 3 gw2 accounts you can transfer all your gw1 achievement's to gw2. I don't think they will ever allow you to transfer multiple account achievements to a single account. Pulpulpullie 10:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I'd say with 99,9% certainty that 1 GW1 account can transfer the HoM to 1 GW2 account, and that's it. Would be a technical nightmare to do otherwise imo.Sjeng 13:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Deleted chars

I'm thinking about deleting my ranger main, to start all over on GW. My ranger has all the monuments fully modded. If I delete this char, will the achievements still be there for GW2? 89.150.88.23 16:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I would wait at least until the HoM update comes live, and even then I probably wouldn't take a chance. Until a developer gives an answer to your question, this would be my advice. -- Alaris 16:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

My advise: NEVER delete your main character.. make a 2nd, it's only ~7 euro.. :P Pulpulpullie 20:47, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Logically, if you delete a character, you delete his/her HoM with it. Therefore, you will lose all yuor achievements. Even when the HoM goes account-wide, this is probably the case, because the account-wide option is simply a "viewing" option: you can choose to enter each character's HoM individually like it is now, or enter the HoM that shows your entire account's character's achievements. Remove one of those characters = remove the achievements of that character = less stuff in your account-wide HoM. At least that's the way I see it, seems logical to me. Sjeng 14:06, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

i deleted my survivor b/c i got tired of the char slot being taken up, and the legendary survivor monument is still in my HoM70.187.15.100 03:46, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

This have been already answered by Regina. When you unlock something in the HoM, the unlock is PERMANENT~for the ACCOUNT. It's not a 'viewing' option. Since the game can't access a character's info wile logged as another character, they make it so when you unlock something, it becomes unlocked for account too. Of course, you'll lose the character and his HoM, but whatever he has unlocked stays unlocked for the account. My advice is to buy another slot and keep the character, thought. You'll have a ranger ready if yu want to use it later, and more birthday presents. MithTalk 13:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

CANT TRADE ITEMS!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?

This sucks i wish we could trade the weapons or minipets (that we earn with our own time). I worked hard to get that stuff and now we can't trade them. It feels like they wont have no money value and are just there for show. I dont even see the point in HOM any more if your items wont be worth anything to anyone eles. What makes items "cool" is when there worth a lot of money not something that only you can have. I rather have something worth a bunch of in-game gold then something worth nothing.--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Wiiman00 (talk).

The HoM is not there for you to make money with. Its there to show people in GW2 that you have achieved things in GW1. More of a bragging rights/proof of past kind of thing. Its never been amount money and if it was it would effect the economy of GW2 too much.- TheRave (talk) 01:16, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

So your telling me that if you could choose to make the items tradeable or untradeable u would would make them untradeable. I like having wealth in mmorpg that is a big part of the fun i get from playing them. And i dont want to have to start all over in the wealth system with a new game thats the main reason i want the items to be tradeable. ANET at least give us some advantage in money in guild wars 2 for all that hard work we did filling up the HOM.wiiman00 22:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Nobody is forcing you to put anything in your HoM. And if you know you're not gonna trade the item - no difference. besides - if you want to be rich in an mmo, just don't buy gold weapons with cool skins, don't buy 15k armor, don't fill your HoM - you'll always have a ton of money. I dunno about you, but I'd rather show off with a Destroyer bow and Vanguard elite armour, than telling someone I have 5000k. Mechu95 19:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Woah man bad comparison. Those items have value and prestige. I would show them off too. But im just afraid that the rewards will end up like the /bonus items. They have no value and i rather not show the /bonus items off. And yes no one is forcing to put stuff in the HoM, but thats not the point. The point is the rewards need prestige, end of story!wiiman00 01:22, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I often use the /bonus items, they're a good way to save cash. But I sincerely think that HoM-earned items will have prestige, if for no other reason than (1) not everyone will be able to get them (especially rewards linked to GWAMM, MotN, Guardian), and (2) each item is linked to some GW1 achievement. -- Alaris 01:52, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I think the HoM rewards will be prestige anyway, because they basically say: "Hey look, I played GW1 and achieved this or that title/achievement!". They won't be tradeable or worth ingame gold, because that would put older GW1 players at an unfair advantage over new GW2 players. It's a new game, so everyone should have to start at zero. It's already pretty damn cool that GW2 will have the opportunity for GW1 veterans to show off their accomplishments. So the rewards have prestige, but no monetary value, as is only fair. Besides, if you have tons of gold in GW1, what good will that do you in GW2? It's a totally different new game, and NO game with a sequal transfers your money from part 1 to part 2 (Diablo etc). Be glad GW at least gives you the chance to convert all that money from GW1 into something to show off in GW2. Sjeng 13:20, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

The Monument of Valor

Since they added the tormented weapons to this monument can you actually split up so you fill this monument by adding for eg. 5 destroyer weapons and 6 tormented weapons. Or do you actually have to add 11 of both so a total of 22 now? -- Nox Coma 12:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Good question. It looks like 11 of any weapons will do, as the shrine can only display 11 weapons at a time. Which brings me to the following question: Will the reward in GW2 be the same wether you have put in 11 destroyer weapons, 11 tormented weapons, or a mix of both, or will you get a unique reward in GW2 for a full set of destroyer weapons and a different reward for a full set of tormented weapons? If there's only 1 reward, regardless of what you put in your HoM, I'll stick to my destroyer set. If I get another different reward for a full set of Tormented weapons, I'll put those in as well... We'll have to wait and see I guess. Sjeng 14:13, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Here's one question we can answer now... is it possible to put both a tormented staff and a destroyer staff in the HoM? If we cannot put both, then that answers the above questions. -- Alaris 14:28, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

No that will only answer Nox Coma's question. I haven't tried it, but I'm guessing you can add as many tormented and destroyer weapons you like, of any type, filling it beyong 11 if you want to, just like any other shrine. I don't know if you even need to have all different skins to have a "full" shrine. If someone could try adding multiple staves for example, the we'd know that you can fill it with whatever type and skin of destroyer/tormented weapon you like or if you can only add 1 of each type of weapon. But that still won't answer my questions though. My valor is filled with destroyer weapons. I think I'll add my tormented sword and shield tonigh, just to see what happens.Sjeng 08:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good, let us know =) -- Nox Coma 18:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, you can add tormented items if you have all 11 destroyer weapons on display. Haven't tried 2 weapons with the same skin, because I don't have 2 of any. Perhaps someone with 2 destroyer staves or w/e could try it out? And what if I have placed destroyer or tormented staves in the HoM's of different characters, say for example a destroyer fire staff on my ele and a destroyer death staff on my necro. How would that behave in the account-wide HoM? Would you get to see both, thus filling 2 slots, or does 1 type of skin count as 1 slot? Sjeng 19:45, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Another question that came to mind: there's only one skin for the Destroyer Bows, but there are two for the Tormented Bows. Can you add both Tormented skins or only one? Because then technically there are 12 tormented skins, not 11... This just gets more confusing the more you think about it! Sjeng 13:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you can add 11 tormented weapons and 11 destroyer weapons, but not 2 of the same (2 destroyer staves). There is only one statue for tormented bows, it displays both skins. See Valor -- Wyn 15:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Why bother to do this if you wont get any good rewards in guild wars 2. Watch the rewards be like some sword that has no value or advantage but just looks different.wiiman00 20:04, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Why do people have expensive destroyer and tormented weapons in the first pleace? They have no advantage. Its because they look different/good/cool. The HoM weapon rewards will also have the advantage it proves to GW2 players that you are a veteran player of GW1 as well. Its all for the kudos. Its like the same reason people have FoW armor, kudos.- TheRave (talk) 20:50, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I just hope the rewards dont end up like the bonus items(which no one cares if you have or not) and like the fevstive hats, nobody cares if you have the first wintersday hat. People look at FoW armor different because it is worth money(like over 1 mill). This gives me the reason to think that the HoM rewards will just end up like festive hats or bonus items instead of being considered cool like FoW armor.wiiman00 02:57, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I'm hoping the rewards will be exactly like that - a reward for the player to be happy knowing he has something cool (just like some of the bonus weapon and the festival hats are rather nice), regardless of what everyone else think of it. That would make me happier than something worshipped by GW2 players who don't have GW1. Erasculio 03:08, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Well wiiman, you should know GW is alot about prestige. You say that FoW armor is different because it cost alot of money, does it not cost you alot of money to add the destroyer/tormented weapons? Bad reasoning... As Erasculio put it it can just aswell be personal too, you can get something for your own liking and not because you wanna show all the other players how cool you are. I bought this game for me, not for anyone else and I have the same intentions on GW2.

As for GW2 rewards depending on your HoM in GW 1 you will never have to take a risk... Your achievements in GW1 will continue to transfer into GW2 after it is released so if you're unsure if you wanna buy that armor, those minipets or that weapon then just be patient and hold on to your money until you can see what the reward is and if you think it's worth it... Personally I like taking the "risk" cause it give you some excitement. Besides it's not all lost if you dont get what you want in GW2 cause what you do in GW1 should be done out of enjoyment and to have fun...

I think they will add some rather nice rewards though cause they have had alot of time to see what interests the people and what makes the gamers "tick" so to speak. -- Nox Coma 07:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I have tormented weapons because I enjoy getting them. The Domain of Anguish is one of my favorite places to play in this game. They also look cool, and are purple (my favorite color) which are also pluses for me. Besides.. what else besides stuff that looks cool do you really have to spend your money on once you have unlocked all the skills? -- Wyn 07:33, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

hehe so true =) -- Nox Coma 17:58, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

So Erasculio your telling me you rather have a festive hat then FoW armor? How can festive hats or bonus items have so much prestige if millions of people can get them. I completely understand guildwars is all prestige but name a item that has prestige and no money value at the same time. Its impossible; just like in the real world stuff that is worth money has prestige. Wouldn't you think the festive hats would have more prestige if you could trade to other people, i sure would.wiiman00 23:00, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

But I'm not worried about prestige : ) If I had to choosen between a festive hat that I enjoy looking at or a FoW armor that isn't pretty to me, I would rather have the hat. Like Nox and Wynthyst exemplified above, sometimes players get an item because they like how it looks, regardless of how valuable it is to the other players or how much prestige it has among the community. Erasculio 23:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I see what you are saying but i still feel like i am wasteing my time. But thats just how i feel. I've spent many hours in this game and i feel like it would be better if we could have something tradeable. I don't know why i feel this way, maybe its greed lol.wiiman00 23:13, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok.. so let's say it's tradeable.... what exactly does having more pixel money get you? You are playing a game which by definition is a waste of time. All your pixelated money is good for is buying skills, armor, titles, or other cool stuff. I am an avid trader, don't get me wrong, but I do it to make pixel gold to buy cool stuff. Any 'bonus' items that are unlocked by your HoM for GW2 are most likely NOT going to be tradeable, and even if they are, by the time GW2 comes out there are going to be SOOOO many of them that there value will be very limited. You have to consider that ArenaNet is not going to design these unlocks as things that give us veteran players unsurmountable advantages over players coming into GW2 without having played GW1, that would just be shooting their future player base in the foot. -- Wyn 23:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok so ethier way its all a waste of time so im quiting guildwars.lolwiiman00 15:04, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, playing any game, by definition, is a waste of time.- TheRave (talk) 15:09, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. Doing something you enjoy is never a waste of time. -- Nox Coma 09:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

That is somewhat true to me but in the end playing this game is a waste of time. When you could be doing something positive you are sitting at a computer playing with pixels.wiiman00 22:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey Wiiman, that's what gaming is all about. Games are about fun and relaxation, not about doing something usefull. (Though relaxing is quite usefull in itself.) (reset indent)

Earlier you stated this: "I just hope the rewards dont end up like the bonus items(which no one cares if you have or not) and like the festive hats, nobody cares if you have the first wintersday hat. People look at FoW armor different because it is worth money (like over 1 mill)." > If the HoM gives you /bonus rewards from achieving something in GW1, or having filled your HoM with expensive items, such as elite armor, lots of minipets, destroyer and/or Tormented weapons, then those items will say: "Look everone, I had some pretty expensive stuff in GW1, and I got this cool item from doing that!". So it's exactly the same as FoW armor. The money spent for it was only spent in a different game then the one you're currently playing. Same thing to me. That, to me, is the meaning of prestige, not the monetary value of the item itself. Prestige is when something says "getting this was pretty hard or expensive" and the HoM bonusses will do exactly that imo. And if festival hats were tradeable (uncustomized), then they would't gain prestige, as they were free to get, they'll only gain monetary value for those who missed out on them and still want to have them. Sjeng 13:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Bug?

When I entered HoM, Ogden was on the opposite side, instead of where he normally is. Has this happened to anyone else? Crimmastermind 20:49, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

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Yeah.. I can lure him there too with vampiric weapon. 194.239.247.160 15:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Will I get to keep stuff?

If I put full Primeavel Armor in the HoM, will I still get to wear it? The Same for weapons, if I put a destroyer Sythe in the HoM, will I still get to wield it? Unendingfear

Yes you can still wear it. Fox007 14:12, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! Unendingfear

jingle bear

can you add it to your hom and geta statue like black koas have?

Doubtful, but worth a try! Unfortunately, I don't have it on any of my chars (just on a hero). -- Alaris 14:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

No you can't add it to HoM like the other special companions, it would have to be the generic type monument. Same for the rainbow phoenix as it's not special enough i guess. I've had both dire jingle bear and dire rainbow phoenix at lvl 20, but have to do with a dire raven instead. I've just quit the game because of it, so my advise would be to be able to delete monuments. OR give these companions a special monument like the others and make it so that people can choose what to display. Flaming Relic 10:02, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Info

We really do need more info on how the HoM will work. Perhaps stating what sort of benefit we'll get in GW2, because otherwise, I would be reluctant to fill up mine, and I am sure that it is the same for others. |--SaberhagenFile:User Saberhagen Wiki Sig.JPG(My Talk) 14:11, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I definalty agree with you. This is starting to piss me off we havent had any news forever. Why did they tells us about guildwars II 3-4 years before release and then not update us. I feel like we have been forgoten and I quit guildwars becasue why should i play if were just getting cosmetic benefits lol from HoM . Bottom line arenanet has screwed us all over big time. Its all BULLSHIT arenanet, thats how most of us feel.wiiman00 03:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

They already said we're just getting cosmetic benefits from HoM. Cosmetics, and maybe a headstart, but nothing that will affect balance long-term. They don't want to aleniate GW2 players that have not played GW1. I agree we need more info, but don't waste your time filling the HoM if you're doing it only to get more powerful in GW2, because that won't happen. -- Alaris 14:36, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Monument of Resilience

Hello. Is it possible to purchase prestige armor for two or more different characters, still able to show them in the same monument? Or do I have to purchase all five prestige armors for one character to get that monument done? --88.112.91.132 12:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

if you mean buying one armor of a char and another armor on a different char then no, monuments are per character and will only show the armors bought by that character (and placed on the monument) Fox007 13:35, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

They said that would go account wide ages ago but they still haven't implemented it yet. Misery 13:38, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

I think they've made title monument account wide to encourage multiple characters in use ages ago... --Super Igor flame my shove sin bar! 13:46, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

10 February 13:46 Igor was right. Fox007 14:13, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Orly... I'll go see if my necromancer has the prestige armor my monk unlocked when I get home then. Misery 14:15, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

It was announced ages ago, but implementation will have to wait until in a few months (April?). -- Alaris 14:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Resilience is not account wide yet. Misery 09:41, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Makeover anomaly

OK .. I have two armor sets in the HoM. In the account-wide display, they both show up, but, interestingly, the same hairdo and color are on both. On one of these chars, I did do a makeover which is accurately reflected as to hairdo and color, but on the other one, it's way off. It seems to be displaying the current character in different armor sets. Maybe I'm being nit-picky, but shouldn't the statues displayed be an accurate representation of the character as he/she currently appears in-game? Algonda 14:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure of the problem you're describing, a screenshot would help. Might be an anomaly related to the makeover. Take a screenshot of your character next to the differently-looking Resilience statue and post here for discussion, or submit to support if you think it's a bug. Rose Of Kali 21:38, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Prophecies statue overlap

On my warrior I have some elite knights armour which I've added to the monument. when I log with my ele and go into the account wide hom that armour shows up as marhan grotto armor and the ele is wearing stoneforged in the picture, which he doesn't own. if I were to go and buy stoneforged armor and add it to the hom would it stack with the other apparent stoneforged armour and not count for anything on the account wide one or would it count additionally as marhan grotto armor?

There are three versions of "Marhan's Grotto" armor statues: Elite, Exclusive, and Ascended, and another three for "Granite Citadel" armor. Warrior Elite Templar armor (formerly known as "Knight's") happens to get the same statue as Elementalist Elite Stoneforged, so in your case, you will gain no further account-wide benefit from displaying the Elementalist's Elite Stoneforged set after you've displayed your Warrior's Elite Templar set, they both give the Marhan's Grotto Ascended Armor trophy. This is the same as displaying Assassin Elite Exotic armor and Ritualist Elite Exotic armor - only one statue will be added account-wide. See Resilience#Statues for more info. Rose Of Kali 21:38, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Lt. Thackery?

I walked into my hall and found Thackery in there talking to gwen, when they were done he just left, anybody know about that? Lord Zepherr March 7, 2009 02:51 9UTC)

I say him yesterday too. What could it be. Random dialogs between NPCs like in Kaineng? A hidden quest chain? MithTalk 15:30, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

I had the same thing happen quite a few times, but he never did it before Wintersday so maybe something new? truesimzy 01:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC) Thackery and Gwen[1]

Wooh, welcome to Date of the North Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 01:55, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I know that during the Winterdays quest Holiday Cheer, he would appear in the HoM talking to Gwen, but I haven't run into him any since then. Passifis 01:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I've seen it happen almost every other time I enter the HoM on a character that did those quests. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 04:29, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Yup happened to me yesterday for the first time ever. Seems curious. -- Salome 12:26, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

OK i was just in my hall adding my phoenix to my monument when Lt. Thackery just appeared (i know ive said about it before) but this time he was talking about the weather to Gwen. Anyone else had the same? truesimzy 03:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[2]

That's the only thing he says. "It's a bit cold out there" or something and Gwen responds with "You came in here to give me a weather report?" or something along those lines. Nothing new there. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 05:20, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I can't recall that well, but Lt. Thackery did approach the HoM with another conversation asides from the "Weather report". I think he was asking why Gwen stayed in the HoM and she replied "Because It's full of memories..." Or something along those lines. Well, at the very least, I know that I've had two different conversations in the HoM between those two, both showing Lt. Thackery's concern for Gwen <3. 82.112.154.165 23:24, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

They added more to the developing romance. Note that when they talk about the day that they commemorate the Searing, they are referring to the Holocaust. This year, on April 12 is the day of commemoration for the Holocaust.

Happy Holocaust Day, everybody. MAFARAXAS 00:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

There is a long dialog ongoing between Gwen and Thackery, exit and reenter the HoM to see every "episode" of it. It seems Thackery doesnt show up anymore after he and Gwen talked about having a picnic. This dialog ends with Gwen saying "Wait, what did I just agree to?". Haven't seen him in the HoM anymore since that dialog.

Monument of Devotion

I was looking at the brief description of the Monument of Devotion on the HoM page and it says it is a place to display your miniatures and your collectibles. What collectibles is it talking about?Passifis 08:36, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

As of the moment, it's only miniatures. Maybe festival hats or something were intended to go there too. But lack of time/revision/inable to do that prevented that. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 08:39, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

How does this work

I have a few questions about how this works. In the monument of resilience, if I put Primeval armor in the monument on my warrior, and the elite fur-lined armor on my ranger, and for example a prestige armor set on my monk, necro and elementalist, will GW2 still give me a reward for the maxed out monument ? Or do I have to buy elite fur-lined and 4 other RANGER prestige armors to get that reward ? and why is anet not giving any info!!! I want info on what's going on >:( also, if I put in 20 common minipets, is it the same as if i put 20 purple ones ? what about if i put 10 common and 10 purple ? WHAT IN THE WORLD HAPPENS, and what do I get ??

Account wide HoM

I don't see anything about this on the page. Didn't know if someone was working on adding that or not although since wikis are sort of real-time (they are, aren't they?) I guess I can give it a try. I've not done this stuff before so if I screw up, can someone fix it...pretty please... Garreth MacLeod 12:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Bug

Lmao, you can display 1 acievement several times now. --84.192.6.24 17:41, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I hope this isn't a bug. I like having my HoM Honor display set up with the Underworld statue on either side. I think it looks better. ^_^ If this is a bug, keep the bug! PLEASE! Q_Q -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 17:47, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

It's 'worse' than that. Take a look at my Account-Wide HoM. These two characters are the only ones I have that have max titles.

It looks to me that 2 of the same character-based title is counting as 2 titles, which I'm not sure was intended. I say 'worse' in quotes because if I can get Rainbow Phoenix....I'm not complaining. :P Benjammn311 21:30, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I was just on my Dervish who is I'm Very Important, he has the big statue dude uncovered cos of the title track, the other characters (who don't have full titles) don't have the statue at all. I just put in my Dervish's fourth set of armor and went to account wide - in account mode I have 5 sets of elite armor and the statue dude popped out one stage along. I switched to my Monk, who has no rank in the Maxed Title and her, and all the other characters on my account, and they all have the statue uncovered slightly.

When I went in with my Dervish, the statue was one stage away from completion when looking in account me, going back to just his hall it's two stages away. 000.00.00.00 01:12, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Mr. Benjammn311, I think you should check if you have a full HoM. As that picture shows the first pop out stage and in account-based HoM, if it's full the statue will come out one stage. So I wouldn't be certain it's the titles unless you click on the "Honor" plaque and it says "<Character name> has reached Kind of a Big Deal in the Kind of a Big Deal title track." -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 01:51, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I found this a bit off but I may be incorrect

It says account wide now. So shouldn't I have my old stuff back? I viewed my Devotion monument, and I don't have my old Minipets back. So was this done on purpose, or was I supposed to keep my old characters? Lucky me however, they were the first year pets...Hydra, Necrid Horseman, etc..--iRathur 03:28, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Pretty sure that deleted characters do not show up in the HoM. Benjammn311 04:24, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

At least the characters deleted prior to the update no longer show. Not sure about after the update. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 05:19, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Origin Speculation time

Where did this thing come from? Who built it? Why? The Scrying Pool seems to have been keeping an eye on the destroyers. It only reacts to "you" (your character). It even calls out to you from miles away when it has something to show you. No one has any idea where it came from, the Humans and Norn just stumble upon it one merry day as they're exploring the mountains. I don't think it's original purpose was to record your heroism, that seems to be a Human touch (Gwen even hands you some tapestry to mark the monuments - the monuments weren't specified for anything previously). However, there is the weird statue floating in that weird blue liquid that seems to be a tunnel of some sort. It comes out and starts glowing as you complete achievements. Is that an original feature of the hall or a human decoration for you (mages and enchantments or something)? So what is this place's true purpose and why does it love us so much? I'm hoping it's an actual piece of lore, and not Anet just playing themselves up as "Unseen benefactors" like they did with the Anatomical Engineer. 68.193.113.198

You'd get many theories on this in this Guru thread (Can't recall if there is a GWO thread on the Eye of the North). The most sound theory would be one I agree with, that it was created by the Seers. Besides the Scrying Pool matching the meaning of their names (a seer is like a fortune teller, for the most part), the place is older than the Norn, Humans, Asuran, and Dwarves. Only races we know to be older than the current races would be Forgotten, Charr, Mursaat, and the Seers. It doesn't look like typical Mursaat Structure, nor Charr Structure. Doesn't seem to be Forgotten either (from what we see in the Desert), so the only race left, besides unknown, would be the Seer. So the answer is either Seer or Unknown. As for the place being lore or not, the building is, the achievements part, not so much. For now (in my opinion) at least. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 22:36, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I beg to differ, if the monument itself is showing signs of responses to the achievements then surely it must've been built in a way to allow it to do so, by whomever created it. My opinion is that the architects wanted/needed a hero to, perhaps, help them achieve some sort of higher goal and they're helping the hero/heroine to do so in the process.--Whisperer 22:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm gonna thread res this a bit, but I don't care. I was thinking, what about the Margonites? They were more powerful then mankind, had the knowledge to build it due to worshipping Abaddon (god of wisdom and water) and this worship also explains the scrying pool, water, which you look in to gain wisdom. As the function and the architecture of the margonites, we know the were a seadwelling people, so my guess would be a lighthouse, or maybe a marker to show where the scrying pool (like a temple to it) is.--Markisbeest 10:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

accounts HoM

i havent entered accoutn wide version on any chars btu my main btu when i entered on my monk all my eltie armors my norn, ancient, luxon, marhans grotto you name it it changed to monk version, ive had the monk for 2 days so no i dont have thoose armors for my monk but why did they change to look like my monk, leads me to wonder if it changes to the charachter you enter account mode with a monk but the armors were unlocked on a ranger if in GW2 all thoose were unlocked for every profession i doubt it but anyoen else wondering about this --Lord randy taylor 22:12, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

When you view your account-wide hall, armors are displayed worn by the current character (the game can't access info about your other characters) if possible, or if not (e.g. - proph-only elite armors on a ritualist) it just displays a generic statue of that armor. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(talk) 22:35, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Not only worn by the current character, but also dyed with the colors the character wears when entering the area. MithTalk 13:33, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

This is kind of a big deal

Of all the achievements and titles that are displayable in the HoM, I can't believe that "A God Walking Among Mere Mortals" is not. It doesn't concern me that it doesn't count towards the maxed titles total, but in regards to benefits in GW2, shouldn't this one be the most important of all? Vidal 02:38, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it is displayed. Automatically and each rank is. Take a big look at that statue in the blue, that is the KoaBD statue. As it is always showing, and is automatic, it can be viewed as the "most important." -- Azazel the Assassin/talk 06:43, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm more concerned with what happens in GW2 and what benefits we get for having these titles maxed, and not so much with their displays or what happens in the Hall of Monuments. The statue is pretty, and that's about it.Vidal 14:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

...If you are more concerned with the GW2 aspect, why even bother with this topic as a "why isn't the KoaBD title track not displaying?"... >_> Meh. For rewards, we have no idea what we'll get. For all we know, GWAMM will be special emotes like proph CE edition. Everything will end up being something that doesn't affect gameplay greatly (hopefully) like the /bonus weapons and the CE stuff, miniatures, etc. Maybe an everlasting Summoning Stone for low levels. Who knows. Doesn't seem to mean much to me what benefits we get, personally. -- Azazel the Assassin/talk 18:07, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Rainbow Phoenix

Ok i know if you fill your HoM up to the max ammount you can show stuff, in the Honor monument the stature thing goes to lvl-1 of KoAbD but if i was to get KoAbD lvl-1 on my toon would it go to lvl-2 on the statue and would a Rainbow phoenix appear? this mite be too hard to understand srry --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:75.18.36.42 (talk).

It goes up one rank of the title. That is 0->1, 1->2, 2->3, 3->4, 4->5. Stops at five since that is the highest the changes go, if I recall correctly. It should be in the "Honor" article. Since that is the monument linked to the KoaBD title track. And yes, the Rainbow Phoenix would appear. -- Azazel the Assassin/talk 07:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Valor

I know that with GW2 on the horizon it's a bit late for something this trivial but I always wondered why the "valor" monument isn't set up to display unique green weapons. Seems more flavorful to me. Trophies of various bosses ya know -- Icefalc0n 13:19, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Greens aren't a gold-sink. -- FreedomBound 13:27, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

KOABD Info

Last time I read this, it was KOABD and at least four completed monuments. Is it the same as it is now? Than 02:41, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

What was KoaBD and at least 4 completed monuments? If you're referring to "having a completed HoM", then don't bother asking. We just don't have any details as to how HoM will connect to GW2 rewards yet. All we have is speculation based on what can be simultaneously displayed. -- Alaris 20:23, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, I don't really care for it's connection to GW2 (not yet anyways). But, in a past version of the article, it said if you completed 4 of the monuments (which is considered by certain conditions of the monument) and you have KOABD you could get the Rainbow Phoenix. Is that the same thing as it' saying now, just worded differently? I haven't spent many years in America, so I'm guessing it's the same thing. Than 01:24, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Drunk

If u go drunk into HoM its still active but when You see a new thing placed ur still drunk but when u come back to real world ur not drunk anymore--87.227.96.88 16:08, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Just an idea - Minipets to Companions?

Guild wars 1 minipets = Guild wars 2 companions?

What if your dedicated minipets, displayed in the monument of devotion, were transferred to guild wars 2 as part of an individual companion system?

What we know of the companion system:

'The system of companions and allies is being reworked. Companions will have customization similar to Heroes. Players will be allowed to bring a single companion with them, who will not take up a party slot and are considered an extension of the character. When a player chooses not to bring a companion, their character will instead be buffed so that they will not be disadvantaged by not bringing a companion'

This would not provide a huge advantage, as players who have never played Guild wars 1, or dedicated their minipets would still be able to use (if they wished) the normal companion system integrated into the game. Players in GW2 who did previously dedicate their minipets would be able to show of their companions as they progressed through the game.

--Pradine 03:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea...for someone who has a lot of surplus minipets that they can't sell.   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 03:43, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I'd guess a full minipet shrine will get you a unique /bonus minipet in GW2. nothing more. GW2 will have a companion/sidekick system where you can bring along ONE companion at a time, but for all we know, you can -unlock- multiple, just like in GW1, the only difference being that we can now take 3 with us, and in GW2 that will be just 1. If that is so, then I think the companionship shrine will grant you one extra unique companion in GW2, not the minipet shrine. Perhaps a ghostly ancestral sidekick. Who knows. Sjeng 13:12, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Shown or All?

Sorry if this has been said in an archive or something, feeling lazy tonight. I was wondering if there has been any knowledge of whether only the stuff shown, or if all of your stuff in the HoM will affect GW2. I hate rearranging stuff trying to only have the best stuff out, and I'd love to stop caring and just pile it up. ~Farlo Talk 05:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't think there's been official confirmation, but I see no reason why it would only be the displayed items that would affect GW2. -- FreedomBound 12:51, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I think it's safe to say that all your stuff will count and I'd guess that it makes no difference what is shown on the shrines, as long as they're full (i.e. 20 mini's, 5 heroes/pets, 5 titles, 5 elite armors, 11 weapons). I think it would be pretty hard for Anet to have different rewards for different items on display in GW2. I think everyone will be getting the same for a filled shrine, no matter what you put in there. I would LIKE to see different rewards for 11 tormented weapons AND 11 destroyer weapons, but I think you'll just get the 1 /bonus item for the filled shrine. Sjeng 13:07, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Account-wide rewards in GW2

I think it sucks for those of us that have spent time doing the same titles on many characters. If we only get rewarded for doing them the one time through, I feel like I've wasted my time on my others. And now I feel really unmotivated to play my other characters. If only there was a reward for achieving things on each character, at least just in GW1. A nice new pet would be great for doing KOBD or something. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 222.155.113.31 (talk).

I wish I would have known this as well. I thought each character would have specific titles and minipets transfered over, since you can view the HoM either by account or specific character. This means dedicating the same minipet for all my characters was a waste, unless of course I was going for the Rainbow Phoenix for all my characters, which I'm not. :( Actually, I don't think we'll know 100% how it's going to work until the game comes out, if it ever does. haha. FloppyJoe 16:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I know maybe you know this but you always do games for rewards? or for fun?. I mean you did youre different professions characters to taste em and prove em, or just to get more than others?. Because if you play for rewards well is sad cause i think enyoying maximizing a different profession is nice, even if you only get what is more important FUN!!!! so at end play for FUN no for rewards thats my idea of gaming. Ivy Thunder Goddess 3:49 am 14 February 2010

The Hall Of Monuments was released with EoTN. ANY kind of fun that Guild Wars may have boasted previous to EoTNs release was killed with fire upon EoTN's release. The idea of GW being a game based on skill instead of grind also died with EoTN rep and Ursan. Those of us that took the time to earn things were screwed and the "I got run thru everything and I am leeter than you" entitlement crowd inherited the game. Its sad that more people with Maxxed titles and halls were run thru the majority of EoTN's content than otherwise................ A-net failed and the GW2 community will suffer. No big deal thio, there are lotsa free MMOrpgs coming out in 2011, many produced by dev's who actually care about thier reputations and place emphasis on quality. 75.142.136.4 18:52, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I heard Hall of Monuments was going to be the dominant part of Guild Wars 2 and GW2's eventual success or failure hinges upon it oh wait. MAFARAXAS 19:03, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

After watching the Elementalist video I could not care less about the HoM. I just want the Phoenix NOW. MithTalk 19:26, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I heard this was what this section was about oh wait. MAFARAXAS 21:27, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Do u need a tapestry for each monument for each character?

Now that you can switch the Hall into "account-mode", is it possible to also add monuments whilst ur hall is in account mode? If so, I think this would mean that as long as ONE of your characters has put a tapestry on each monument, you don't need to worry about the tapestries anymore as all the other characters can switch to account mode every time they want to add to a monument. Is this correct? In other words, does the game let you add to a monument that looks like its got a tapestry when ur viewing the hall in account-mode but hasn't got it in player-mode. If so, maybe a note somewhere on the page would be useful. --Combatter 19:20, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

feel free to make one see the be bold guideline- Zesbeer 01:43, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

You can't add to your monument in account-wide-mode. You can only add while you are in character-mode. Account wide just displays a combination of all your character's indiviual HoMs. –alistic 01:48, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Ah thanks Balistic. I will hold on to my "spare" tapestries rather than giving them to a friend then. Shame.. he would've liked 'em. --Combatter 03:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Poem

Qualities of a Monumental Hero

Lots of titles,

Lots of pets,

Fancy heroes,

Fashion sense,

Expensive weapon sets.

Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 21:18, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Deleting a character and the effects on the HoM

What if character A on my account has 4 heroes displayed, and another character B has 1, but at some point I want to reroll char. A. What will happen to my HoM? Will the 4 heroes disappear, or will the account-wide accomplishments be remembered, even though the original character that unlocked the statues is gone? Will character B still see 5 heroes in the accountwide view, or just the one?

Same question with armor/titles/weapons (although you can put armor and weapons in your xunlai box, they are still customized to the deleted character) I know you can delete your armor after you placed it in the HoM, but what if the character that put it there is deleted?

I only know that minipets will stay in your HoM, even after deleting or selling the minipet, but what if character A was the one who placed it there, and char. A gets deleted? Will the minipet also disappear? Has anyone tried any of the above? Thanks in advance! Sjeng 13:19, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Joe might be able to tell you without having to risk any of your stuff. -- FreedomBound 13:30, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I can remember reading somewhere that monuments in HoM are account based so once you put something there, the character doesn't matter anymore. (I recall reading someone deleting his char after putting elite armor in resilence monument). Though a safer way is to ask Joe as Freedom Bound suggested. 194.2.20.67 13:57, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok I just found again the topic where I read the stuff [3]. Hope it helps ;) 194.2.20.67 15:16, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's the same topic I posted in, so basically it didn't help, as I've gotten no real proof yet... But I guess I can safely assume that deleting any or all characters on an account will not delete anything that's already in the HoM...Sjeng 15:34, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I've placed account-wide titles into the HoM and subsequently deleted the character and the title didn't disappear, so I'm tempted to say it's unlikely that any contributions would be subsequently removed. After I get Survivor 3, I'll let you know for sure. ··· Danny Pew Pew

Okay thanks. I can see how account-wide titles would stay in there, but how about character based titles? It would be a shame to reach legendary survivor, place the statue, but lose it again after deleting the character... (why would you do that anyway? :P) Sjeng 19:04, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Because it'd take me a whole 4 hours to get if I did it again on a Sin, and I really don't want my PvE paragon anymore. ··· Danny Pew Pew

The way I see it is that HoM is an achievement recorder, so when you get one title and put it in HoM it's recorded whatever happens to your char. But that's just my 2 cents ^^ 194.2.20.67 06:58, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

GW1 -> GW2

I believe initially that Anet said only one character on your GW1 account could be selected for transfer of accomplishments and rewards to your GW2 account.

Is there any confirmation from Anet that the accomplishments of every character on the account will now transfer over? I'm trying to decide which of my characters should consume my (obscenely) huge collection of party-things. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 00:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

It sounds like they've moved to an account-wide system, judging by Kimmes's recent remarks, but it would be best to verify with someone, of course. ··· Danny Pew Pew

Really late reply, but ArenaNet:Developer_updates/20080624 mentions specifically "2. Hall of Monuments accomplishments will be sent to Guild Wars 2 by account. All Hall of Monuments accomplishments for any Guild Wars character on your account will be available to every Guild Wars 2 character on your account." So you can consume your huge amount of party items on any character. I would suggest doing so on a character who is also going for KoaBD, if you are doing so on any character. --Goteki-45 17:43, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Reward in GW2

Was looking at the max numbers of Elite armors you can show at one time, which is 5. Does this also mean that if you have 5 sets in HoM, you get maximum reward in gw2, or do you need to have all 14 different Elite armors to get max reward in gw2? The same would count with all the other walls too. Finsky 19:16, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

no one knows until GW2 gets out i guess. Fox007 20:21, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Just get them all, you were going to do it anyways. MAFARAXAS 20:42, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm one away! :> ··· Danny Pew Pew

Great money sink if you need all...Suck Finsky 16:47, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

14 armors... there are 20 different elite armors in this game, but you'll have to do that account wide. Sjacie 14:36, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Lt. Thackeray

To gain the NPC in Ice Cliff Chasms, you need to have witnessed the conversations between him and Gwen in the HoM. What I am wondering is if you need to view these conversations for each character, or if you just need to view on one character and then you can see him on all the others. Would save a ton of time and energy. --Lustre Of Havoc 話 06:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, seems to be per character. Rose Of Kali 13:32, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Rainbow Phoenix animal

As I don't want to be called out on 1RV, I will point out here that the Rainbow Phoenix is not a Foe. The section needs to be named Charmable Animals, just like in any other explorable area articles, such as Jaga Moraine, for example. The sections are "Allies" "Charmable Animals" and "Foes", and animals are not listed under Foes. I asked Backsword to revert his edit on his talkpage, but he has not acted on it or replied anything, even though he has edited pages after my note, so he couldn't have not seen it. Rose Of Kali 15:35, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

agreed if that's how it is done else where then that's how it should be documented here. - Zesbeer 23:13, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Companions in GW2

Companions are no longer going to be included in GW2, so we should edit that... Source Aquadrizzt 18:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

No, I say leave it. 1. It's still a quote from the official website. 2. The "companion" link takes you to the Companion page on GW2Wiki, which explains that it's a scrapped feature. Rose Of Kali 20:27, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

i say remove it. just like anything else guild wars2 related its subject to change.- Zesbeer 00:45, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Where is that quote from? Has it been updated? Otherwise you have to put in an ellipsis in there, or find a better quote. Rose Of Kali 10:44, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

i dont know where it came from in that failuru post but i know they said it in the anetblog here: [4] also what dose companions have to do with hom?- Zesbeer 23:05, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Fellowship monument inheritance. Oh, and I was talking about the big "official" quote at the top of the article that mentions companions. I know they scrapped the feature. Rose Of Kali 23:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

i dont know where that came from i am guessing in website content that came out around eotn.- Zesbeer 23:14, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

They dropped the companion system, but it seems they will keep features designed for it for use when characters bring things like animals, golems or summons. It was stated in one of those interviews. I can't recall which one. I think it was one in IGN. MithTalk 13:40, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

hide tag

Can we get a hide tag on the dialog it takes up 90% of the page.- Zesbeer 10:07, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Title Bug

I was rearranging my titles when it made a duplicate one. I'm sure that if i started moving them again it would go away or added a new one but, when i re-mapped it was still there. Here is a screenshot below. Feel free to crop picture and add to bugs on main page. Tycars125 01:12, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

You can do that on purpose, you know. If you want, you can make all 5 of them be Kanaxai. It's not a bug. Rose Of Kali 09:11, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Guild Wars 2 link?

So if I am getting most of my titles on my Derv, will it still transfer over to GW2 account wide to all my chars, or will it not since there will be no derv in GW2?

what mean common sense

I don't think actual titles will transfer. I think it's more like unique weapon and armor skins, your minipets, or perhaps a single title based on your GWAMM title in GW1. But yes, whatever rewards they have in store are spread account wide.

It is confirmed GWAMM will return, but I wouldn't doubt some of the other hard ones will make a comeback as well. --Floreum 00:42, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Account GWAMM Progress?

Not sure if this has been answered, but does the statue which represents your Maxed Titles progress act on an account-wide status? Say I have 29 titles maxed on one character, and then I make a survivor and reach r3, will the statue glow as if I have 30 maxed, or will it stay at 29, and I'll have the Survivor statue there anyways. This is all if looking through the Account HoM of course. ~Farlo Talk 04:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

The big statue on the wall seems to reflect the KoaBD status of the individual character, regardless of whether you're viewing the Account HoM. So, your 29-title character's statue would not glow. 97.80.119.149 17:50, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Rewrite box removed

New additional information pertaining to the HoM Rewards Calculator (Beta) for GW2 has already been added, no use to keep the box for further purposes unless needed. Captain Armin 14:28, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

typo?

"A total of 18 Guild Wars 2 reward points can be obtained from this monument for 30 displayed titles and accomplishments,"

doesn't the last point require 40 displayed titles and accomplishments. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.152.79.46 (talk).

Yes, typo. Fixed. - Tanetris 15:59, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

So do I get a special statue?

My account joined the pool of stolen NC soft accounts. Does that mean I get a monument of a chinese flag? --adrin 04:42, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Reward point allocation

Would it be a good idea to have a section in each monument page to list the allocation of the reward points for GW2? I mean, to explain which kind of achievement will bring what number of reward points? Or is the link from this page to the calculater enough? I bring this here, because I don't want to discuss the same thing in five different places. Balwin 16:59, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Something like GWiki's presentation would work fine.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 17:05, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

The source.

Anyone have the source of the info about the gw1 accounts linked to gw2 after gw2 released wont get the HoM rewards? Me and a few others on their facebook have been asking for it, and I figured Id get the answer straight out.--Neithan Diniem 09:48, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

The last question here, note that it's three years old. Manifold 14:41, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I've rephrased the statement, which was misleading (at best) and added the source. What ANet has said is that they want to reward those who played GW1. So it's clear that everyone with an existing account now (and through GW2's release) is covered (so long as the accounts are linked). ANet hasn't said whether players can also get bonuses if they create a new GW1 account after GW2's release, but before they create their GW2 account. And, as noted, this particular source is old, so ANet might have changed their mind altogether.

@ND: I don't think you have any cause for concern: I don't see any way that ANet will require that folks create GW2 accounts before the official release or even put other stumbling blocks in the way.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 16:16, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Thats not what worried me, its the backlash of people that would get gw1 accounts to get the said bonuses only to find they dont work, should it hold true that thus us the case. I dont exactly think you can make a gw2 account till after gw2 is released anyhow... =p --Neithan Diniem 20:29, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

added note

added that if you delete a character that put something in hall the item will stay on account wide view....because its true, and ive seen it asked in game like 30 times nowAurenX 17:23, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

that's very cool (especially for those unlucky souls whose accounts got hacked and purged).  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 18:16, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Purged accounts, now, would need to be checked to see if they have monuments still. If they truly are purged, I would suspect that their data is deleted, or at least removed from the main game data banks and archived for legal purposes.--Neithan Diniem 20:31, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

by purged, I mean all items stolen, all toons deleted. That shouldn't delete any data; the account still exists and still earned account-wide titles/monuments/hom2. Mind you, I'm not planning on testing this out.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 20:53, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

yea i havnt really tested with titles, but it worked for armor, and i believe he had a wep on him tooAurenX 14:30, 17 October 2010 (UTC)