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best of luck with your title and chaos gloves! (I was Aumanar at the 21:00 PST wintersdayfest.) Armond 06:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. It was good to see you. -- Gaile 21:23, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Said I Had a Picture for You

but too lazy to upload it. :P Have a look! Armond 08:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Haha.. nice pic! ^^ ^Teo^ 10:35, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Oorsome RT | Talk - A joyous wintersday to all 15:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Ransom

GuildaII is actually remand prisoner at the domain of anguish by our mighty evil forces. Bring a ransom of 1..no, 2 !..hmmm, what is it after that ? Well, bring a ransom or you may have to deplore her death. Come alone with no weapons. Yseronyx

It's unfair, you did never tell us she learned Frenzy. After considerations I offer you whatever you ask if you agree to take her out of our lair before she completely destroy what remains of our army. Yseronyx

Water Magic? Or Something Else O.o

well just wondering this,y is it called water magic if technically its all "ice" magic in exception for steam...when i first started playing gw 2 years ago i was kinda hoping for tsunami or typhoon or tidal wave in the skill section,but instead i got ice shackles :P,not that ice skills are bad or anything but makes ya wonder.O and btw plus buff swirling aura,i mean come on 45 sec recharge and 10 energy for 18 secs of 50% chance blocking,O.o.and take a look at burning speed as well XD,i have yet to find its potentials :'(.

Technically ice is water just in solid form, but I know what you mean I expected more wind like spells from Air magic line. As for skill balance Izzy's talk page is the way to go. -- Broodling 00:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Because Air, Earth, Water & Fire were the original elements in the world before the Periodic Table was created. Also, since Elementalists are called Eleentalists, they need to use the Elements as that's what they were named after. — ク Eloc 貢 01:00, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

No, I think they'd use "Eleenments." :P Lord Belar 01:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Missed the m from Elementalists Eloc, lol Eleentalists :P Anyway Eloc has already said most of what I would of said but those four elements have been used in many previous RPGs as well as for the same effect, eg:water = slow movement. --Kakarot 01:13, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Though if we take the OLD elements. I'm missing Ether, altough that could be energy storage i geuss.Rhydeble 07:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Yet More Wintersday Screenshots

You only get links, as there's so many that I think thumbnails would make the page excessively huge... A lot of them are probably somewhat nonsensical, but I'll try to put some sort of a comment about them. :P

Image:User Armond Gw238.jpg - Proof that all chat works for you, too. :D
Image:User Armond Gw239.jpg - Charge of the elves! I was trying to get one of us all stacked up behind you, but didn't quite manage it.
Image:User Armond Gw240.jpg - Got it that time, but the trade and Xunlai got in the way... You ran off right after that, though, so if I'd removed the UI and such I'd have deselected you and been unable to follow you as easily. :o
Image:User Armond Gw241.jpg - Sans-UI. Someone's not in their proper holiday spirit :P Candy corn at Wintersday?
Image:User Armond Gw242.jpg - Better angle on the previous shot... maybe. I'll take credit for one of those titans wandering away.
Image:User Armond Gw243.jpg - Backshot, apparently because the minipets need love too :)
Image:User Armond Gw244.jpg - One hell of a lot of elves, all sync dancing. Good idea of yours. The quest marker gets in the way for a few shots, though...
Image:User Armond Gw245.jpg - I still can't get them all in one shot...
Image:User Armond Gw246.jpg - Better, I think... but incoming snowmen!
Image:User Armond Gw247.jpg - Didn't work out too well, but at least it's a backshot. :P
Image:User Armond Gw248.jpg - Much better. And kissing snowmen!
Image:User Armond Gw249.jpg - SNOWMEN VERSES ELVES!
Image:User Armond Gw250.jpg - Helps to see all the names when trying to figure out how many people are there.
Image:User Armond Gw251.jpg - A faceoff between snowmen and elves...
Image:User Armond Gw252.jpg - Got your name in this one ;)
Image:User Armond Gw253.jpg - A final shot with the snowmen retreating. Our elf skill bars are just too leet.

Enjoy! Armond 03:13, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

GW-Pod?

idk if its true but ive heard rumors that gw is gonna add in-game music playing option for money,(example:pay 1k and kamadan will play the song u choose to all people). i highly doubt its true due to some songs being R-rated lol and with children in the game might not work,but still maybe if u could filter some and bring it in-game it would be a neat gold sink and feature alot of people would go for.74.186.169.130 17:22, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

sounds like someone is pulling a hoax on you. The chances of that happening are slim to none. What with copyright law on music, the need to transfer a lot of data and as you said the filtering of inappropriate content. --Lemming 18:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

This is a rumor, nothing more. -- Gaile 19:31, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't even like this. Why would I let someone else decide the music I hear and remove the beautiful soundtracks of GW (yes I am a fan of game soundtracks.) --MageMontu 00:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Interesting how she neither comfirmed nor denied it. — ク Eloc 貢 01:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Saying it is a rumor, and nothing more, denies it. -- Gaile 06:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Right....;) lol — ク Eloc 貢 11:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Invitation to a Party

Gaile, I was wondering if you would like to come to an in-game party I am currently organinsing. It should be hosted on Wednesday 9th April. I know it seems like a long time away from now but i just need conformation. I ask you of this favour as I have heard of your invitations to other ingame parties such as New Years Awakening and the Ascalon Royal Family Masquerade Ball and i have heard of the great things you have done during those events. I have also never seen you ingame (this is a very minor reason). If you could get the frog to my celebrations too that would be even better for the party. Just because you are a GM doesn't mean you won't get freebies. During the fun time intervals there will be free drinks to help you max your drunkard title (which I heard you might be interested in doing). I hope that you acccept my invitation. For more infomation on this event, just use the following link-http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Festival_Disco --Burning Freebies 20:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

This sounds like a very ambitious project! I hope that you get lots of help putting it together. It's a bit early for me to say with certainty that I can attend. I may be traveling that date, or may for some other reason be unable to attend. But I would like to stop by, if at all possible, and I'll know more as the date gets closer.

Thank you for the invitation! -- Gaile 23:55, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank You for your reply. Sorry about the early invitation, it is because I am starting to organise it now. There may be few changes of the date of the event, I will let everyone know sooner the time. --Burning Freebies 18:55, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Wheres Devona?

I went to the the guildwars website and I saw that they had a new wallpaper. Excited, loaded it up and saw it had Devona on there, but for some reason i could not recognize the architect of the buildings in the backround of the wallpaper. I thought it wasn't Ascalonian, Asuran, Norn, or whatever it is because i havent seen it. Does anyone know the architecture of the buildings or where the wallpaper takes place? I'm just wondering. TitanSacranus 00:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm.... My best guess would place her in Echovold Forest somewhere as that looks like it could be Kurzick Terriotry. The only other places which i think have that type of architecture are the Underground Tombs and maybe the Desolation, but honestly from the cathedral-esque design, I'm gonna go with Kurzick. -- Salome 04:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

The background looks like it could be concept art for the Eye of the North. As for Devona herself, it looks like it's the same model they used in the Prophecies trailer. -- Gordon Ecker 08:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if its Kurzick. But it could be concept from Eye of the north. If it was ascalonian, there would be a head of some man instead of a dragon. I dont think its kurzick because the architecture does not look old (sry) or looks like it blend in the ground. I just saw this, but it looks like theres that New Orleans Saints Symbol in the backround (I dont know what to call it, i just saw it) TitanSacranus 21:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Your Bow Collection

Just a question, for your bow collection, do you get any green bows or just nice skins? Evilness Kills 21:12, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

And also, have you ever used a jahai rat, or any rat? And has anyone else ever sued a rat? (not for wiki info or experimenting, i mean for fun) Because I don't know anyone who has lol. Ajc2123

Objection! Rats are not mentally competent to stand trial! Silver40596 23:16, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

What did that rat ever do to you that deserves being sued? Lord Belar 23:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

lol sry i meant to say used, not sued.Ajc2123

Hey - who be dissin' rats? :( --Snograt 09:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I collect all sorts of bows. I was going to try for "one of every bow in the game," but with all the varied ways of customizing them, I don't think I'll get there, even with half a dozen mules. ;) Right now I have some greens and some golds, as you can see here, and of course my player character has her own set, too. -- Gaile 00:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Weapons Design Winners -- Coming Soon?

is this true? and when will we get moar information about it? --Cursed Angel 19:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

probably with the upcoming skill balance I guess. Clan Yumemiru 22:17, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

John, our "Items Expert," say most likely some will be added this month. We may or may not mention it -- it could just be a cool surprise for players. I'll check with John on his thoughts on the matter. What I think we may do is say "Added some Design-A-Weapon items to the game" and then let players discover where. (Or is that just too evil? :) ) -- Gaile 22:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe a tiny bit more publicized than the mini polar bear >:O -elviondale (tahlk) 01:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

OMG!!!! - BeX 02:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, as long as we can get them from then onwards, not a limited-time-we-won't-tell-you, then that's fine even if you don't say it at all. The fun is in the discovery. The not so fun is in finding out you missed something you can never have ever again. Alaris 02:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

heh the wiki will have every information in like 1 hour anyway :D --Cursed Angel 13:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, just like the polar bear...Nicky Silverstar 15:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

3rd Birthday

Thanks for being at our third guild birthday. We were very happy that you were there, and I have made a wiki account so I won't be silly from now on. Death Sligher 22:08, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Was really nice and fun that you was at our birthdat, from here i want to thank you from the 1 year old RDL who also had birthday with you. Schaapie 22:10, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I was delighted to be invited, happy to attend. You are a great bunch of players, and I really enjoyed getting to spend some time with you. :) -- Gaile 07:31, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Just curious, did you have to send Gaile a guest invite, or did Gaile just magically appear? Nbajammer 00:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Magic, of course. Lord Belar 00:13, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Of course the smoke signals, a tastefully drawn "gg" on a cerulean sky, had nothing whatever to do with it. ;) -- Gaile 04:21, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Play.com Consumer Games Show

March 15th and 16th sees the first major games exhibition in the UK in years, hosted by play.com at Wembley Arena. The only info I've found about it so far has been on the Wembley Forums [1]. Will Anet be attending and will Gaile be able to make it ? Would be great for us in the UK to finally have a chance to come and meet you! --Evil Geek 10:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

OMG! thanks for bringing that to my attention, im off to tell my guildies! I'm so there! I just hope anet come too. -- Salome 14:09, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, there. Thanks for making me aware of this show -- I haven't seen anything about it at all. That was posted in November, and I was wondering if you have noted anything about it elsewhere since then? I'd like nothing more than to attend -- would love to attend a show in the UK -- but I would like to research a bit to see if it's still a "go," and get some details of what the show is going to be like. Thanks for any info you can give me. -- Gaile 21:20, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay i just had a wee look. The event is called "Play.Com Live" and will be held in wembley stadium with an estimated 40,000 - 50,000 passing through the gates during the weekend of the 15th and 16th. Now to be honest, its being terribly advertised but apparently this event is still going ahead and thus far, from what i can dicern, the only major gaming house to have signed on is ubisoft (of Rayman and Assasin's Creed fame), However from the sources ive been reading, this step by ubisoft has pulled interest of other gaming houses and by the end of january they expect to have secured many more companies. There's also some Unreal Tournament 3 event thing going on where people can win £50,000. I'm gonna check later on tonight with a few friends I have at RockStar games (Living in Edinburgh FTW) to see if they even know this event exists. As its had virtually no media coverage and most of the information I could find was on forums. Even the Play.com website doesnt have any clear info about the event apart from touting that it will be more fun for consumers than E3 (which considering consumers are no longer allowed to attend E3, isnt that much of an achievement). I'm hoping this event is great but from the lack of general knowledge of its existence and the terrible marketing, personally im not too sure about it. If I was the play.com CEO, i would be sacking my marketing director round about now. So anyhoo gaile, if you just google "play.com Live" you'll find all the info i could. to anybody who is interested VIP tickets for the whole weekend are £16 and are only available at www.play.com. I'm off to buy mine now, as even if its crap, its the only thing we've had since 2004 and our 2 game expos went the way of the dinosaur. *sigh* Anyway hope this info helped. -- Salome 07:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

i dont even live in the uk nor would i have any way of geting to this but if found a number on the bouttom of there site i bet you could call them directly gaile. also here is an email adress i found at wembley stadiums website customerservices@wembleystadium.com though looking though there events it dosnt even have it lissed so i dont know whats up.

The link to the tickets is here took me a while to find them. I agree they have definetly hidden it away! I might see if a friend wants to go and get the weekend off. --Lemming 17:19, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I was curious -- did you purchase tickets, Lemming? And has anyone seen ads, promotions, TV spots, or whatever about this show? It doesn't appear to have been promoted, and I'm not sure if it's even still planned. If anyone has new info, please let me know. -- Gaile 19:42, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

BMP Wallpaper

Wow, what a nice wallpaper :D, This only makes it more exciting when i am going to buy the BMP on the 28th.:)-- Mepp 21:16, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Guild Wars houses very nice concept art :P -- Brains12 • Talk • 21:23, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with that, I like Wednesday wallpaper day very much and I'm happy they are doing it again :) . I hope there will be some about GW2 very soon, because they are saying there is a new site coming aswell. Death Sligher 20:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

/agree with Brains (excuse the absence of the "12", but Brains is always what you'll be called in my book. I also realize this paranthesis is longer than the "12" itself would have been but, meeh..) I personally am the proud owner of all 4 concept art books, and I would personally recommend them to anyone. Of course, they don't sell them by themselves, but anyway... (Yes okay, I admit, it's 4 am and I just got home after a rather long night out. Sleep incoming! >.>) — Galil 02:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Hardware

Hiya Gaile! I'm not sure if it's company policy not to tell, or something... but I'm wondering what the specs are for this massive GW server! I just read the latest news and saw that Guild Wars also services to Asia. This has got to be one badass server you got, or is it really a whole string of servers making a technological ritual to one slightly-bigger-but-not-as-massive server?! Vael Victus 23:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

It's actually a number of groups of servers. The many servers are configured in multiple racks, load-balanced and connected together (likely through fabric switches). There are separate server banks for regions such as west coast USA, europe, asia, etc., as well as multiple backup sets of servers that offer full failover in case one or more fulltime servers go down. When logging in to the GW client, take note of which IP address you connect to. You'll notice that it is often different each time you connect, as their load-balancing system handles which server actually takes each individual client's connection. - GenXer 23:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Gaile!

Thought you might be interested in this thread. Some info on the Xunlai Market house would be nice, for example. I'm just hoping nobody gets into trouble, but I'm quite sure they won't. -- Mini Me 17:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

In trouble for what? Going through a file located on your own computer? Antiarchangel 01:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

There was some debate about whether this violates the EULA, though I doubt it would be enforcable if it did. Ashes Of Doom 02:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Xunlai Market

Hey Gaile! Do you know anything about the 'Xunlai Market'? Massiv 21:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

What is the Xunlai Market and why do you ask? -- Gaile 05:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

See the "Hi Gaile!" section two sections above for the link to the forum thread. The gist: some people poking around gw.dat found some text strings that refer to a "Xunlai Market" and have some messages that suggest it allows players to put items up for sale like an auction house, minus the bidding. Evidence suggests that it's been relativey recently worked on (one of the messages asks a player to confirm that they want to buy an item that's already been dedicated at the Hall of Monuments). - Tanetris 05:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I wondered if diffrent regions had different things. But at closer inspection I can say that this is false, and that any content within the .dat file is global no matter what language localization. I wonder, could this be something the EU offices made, and then the studio got wind of and decided to add into the game? Or perhaps the developers have been deliberately misleading the community so they can add the "Xunlai Market" as a convenient surprise to perhaps bolster activities within the game until GW2. Whatever it is, I'm very sure Gaile will do one of two things. A) Play unaware. Or B) "Know nothing", and tell nothing. We'll see. Drago 05:36, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

It's not fake; the text is in the dat (go look for the threads in the appropriate forums). It is, however, only in English (and Bork! Bork! Bork! as I assume it's simply a simple script to Swedish Chef-ize the English). Stuff that's implemented into the game, e.g., item names, are fully translated into the other languages. I've extracted out lists of skill descriptions in Bork! Bork! Bork!, the User Agreement in Spanish, etc. So, yes, the contents of the dat are global as far as officially released stuff, but different languages are stored in different files. Unlike other games that I've prowled through the data files for, GW actually localizes - good job by ArenaNet. ~Seef II <ℹ|۞> 10:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

If I made a game with a .dat or .wad or whatever pack file, I would totally start adding in weird crap once my player base cracked the pack file. Stuff like "George Lucas Monster" or "God Mode Coupon" or "Pet: Trogdor" just to throw the players off. Cry wolf enough, and real stuff will not spike above the radar. ;) That's prolly why I am not a game dev. Sigh. --Ravious 12:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Everyone watch out for an ingame economy fluctuation coming up. Assuming this gets implemented, the value of most items will drop considerably. Get gold now! (Not to start a panic...) I sincerely hope this is the real deal though, and not just code they are "working" on with no plans for release before GW2. Feel free to deny away though Gaile.:D Ashes Of Doom 13:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah rly, an auction house-like-thing is something half the playerbase has been screaming for for a long time now. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 13:30, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't get it, maybe I am too stupid? If someone find the words "Xunlai Market" in GW.DAT, that means we will have an Trade House with all that features? why? My mind is not enough for this, I need help! --NeHoMaR 14:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

It was a little more than just the words "Xunlai Market". There were also some strings found in regards to "listing items" in this supposed market and other such things. See this and this for more wild-ass speculation :P.--fraught · (talk) 14:36, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

No, thank you! I prefer to play GW! --NeHoMaR 15:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I can say that without a doubt, Gaile will make little or no effort to say or reveal anything to this. I think that because it is within the .dat, the studio is aware of it, and possibly working on it. But as it's an unannounced feature, and ANet hasn't said anything, perhaps she will have to say something to either confirm or deny its' existence. Drago 16:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

If I remember rightly, its always been said that an auction house would be a major project to implement. Maybe this is as far as ANet got before deciding it was bigger than they thought and gave up. Sadie2k 16:15, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I beleive the xunlia code was last updated in mid december 2007. i will double check though. It's definetly been updated since the release of GWEN because it mentions dedicated items..and dedication didn't come about until after the release of Gwen...because before dedicated everything was customized.Coridan 16:27, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I predict that the code monkey who let this slip to live in the gw.dat will be curbed, and then the founders will lead a discussion on why this had to happen. --Ravious 17:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Gaile ask the best question ever, i mean, what are u talking about? just cuz u found a file doesn't directly mean they're making an auction house. theyre working on gw2 so all gw1 suggestions and clipping issues/minor bugs have been pushed aside, and this isn't even minor. --Cursed Angel 17:15, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

If that was true then how come all the evidence points to the fact it has been recently worked on? Gw2 has been in development for months now, and evidence suggests the xunlai market has been messed with since december. --TimTimTmma 17:15, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Cursed Angel has never shown any sign of intelligence, better to just ignore him.       18:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Back down Riven, there is no need for the personal jibes. --Lemming 19:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Not a personal attack, just an observation.       20:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

You just reaffirmed your personal attack on him. Don't even try to cleverly disguise it. Alaris 21:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Aside from fighting amongst each other... check this for some more information on the Xunlai Market. Drago 21:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, that was just plain mean :) Alaris 21:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) That's a Rick Roll, isn't it? *clicks* Yes, yes it is. That aside, could we tone down the massive negativity? And Riven, that was clearly a personal attack. You've been duly warned. You and Cursed Angel both need to back off from each other before bans start getting handed out.

Back on topic, the text from the .dat (as has been mentioned, it's certainly more than just the words "Xunlai Marketplace". It has several different messages from a marketplace interface. Read the threads for specifics) pretty concretely suggests that it's being worked on. The question is really how far along it is, whether it's considered a sure thing or they're still not sure if they can make it work (just because they're working on it doesn't mean it'll necessarily happen), and how much they want to talk about it at this point. All of which I'm sure Gaile is discussing with the team right now. - Tanetris 21:30, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Damn! Rick Roll'd! -- Salome 23:27, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

With all that looking at the gw.dat and extracting information from it I am wondering if anyone is aware of the EULA in this regard? "3. LICENSE TO USE (...) you may not (...) (b) modify, adapt, reverse engineer or decompile the Software, or otherwise attempt to derive source code from the Software;"81.108.235.0 01:08, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

GW.dat containes neither machine code nor source code. Backsword 05:08, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Is it legal to use that programme to read gw.dat??? Death Sligher 17:17, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

As 'legal' as using TexMod. it modifies nothing, and as long you don't take out copyrighted material to use as your own, it's not much different than seen the textures, texts and sounds yourself while playing. Just... out of context... so... it's not something they can ban you for... but do not ask for support is you download an 'evil' version with a keylogger or something like that.
What intrigues me most is this silence we are having. Maybe it was a surprise for the Canthan New Year or the GW Birthday or something like that... or maybe just a joke they added into the GW.dat to make fun out of those that peek into the GW files... MithranArkanere 17:52, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you're right if wiki doesn't give the programma we can better not download stuff like that. To read Gw.date. We will see what happens and if it is coming out enjoy it. We just need to wait there will come a BNP ore something so don't search for it but just be patent(then you can say WOW if it is really ingame) :). Death Sligher 19:40, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

You're killing us gaile, can you give us anything? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:69.210.143.227 (talk).

It could've been scrapped due to unforseen technical issues. It could be on hold because the only people capable of implementing it will be too busy for the next few months due to a Guild Wars 2 developement bottleneck. -- Gordon Ecker 03:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Gaile

Any information on this? — Teh Uber Pwnzer 01:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I heard something was posted on the forums, but I haven't seen it myself. Lord Belar 01:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Come on, people. There are now three topics on Gaile's page for the same thing. Whether she knows something and is simply staying quiet for now, or whether she has no idea what it's about, starting three separate topics about the same thing just clutters up her page and is simply unnecessary. Just be patient. Kokuou 01:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Ok, having tidily merged this, I can tell you that ol' DAT file has a ton of stuff, from last year, this year, four years ago, three offices prior, a staff member's moving sale, somebody's gerbil's birth announcement, and more. Nothing really to say. *shrug* -- Gaile 01:38, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

This mentions items that have been dedicated, meaning that it was worked on semi-recently. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 01:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Please stop bugging her! She cannot confirm or deny an information that might have been discovered in the .dat file. The is plenty of stuff in there that is unused, so there is no way to tell if they are activel working on it. It is possible they are simply trying to put together a way to test the system they are working on for GW2. If they are planning on implmenting it for GW1 (I hope so myself), it is possible that Gaile does not know whether it will be added anytime soon or at all(unlikely as it seems), and even if she does know something, we can't expect her to tell us anything. WAIT AND SEE!! Honestl, it's not like anone is providing valuable input to Gaile here. All anone is dong is wasting her time. That includes me, so I'll shut up now. </rant> Ashes Of Doom 01:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

So, it'll be out within the week? Alongside the Design-a-Weapons? Gotcha. --24.179.151.252 05:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

"Alongside the Design-a-Weapons?" OH SNAP!       11:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Its things like that ^ that get rumors started you know. Gaile said nothing about it, but we definitely need to start spreading the word that it'll be out within the week. Design-A-Weapons hopefully will be out soon, but not necessarily within the week. Time to have a wild rumor spreading rampage? Lets go guys!!! I'll take Guru, someone else hack GW.com, and someone else can cover GuildWiki. Ashes Of Doom 17:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC) (that was a joke btw)

"somebody's gerbil's birth announcement". Lol, why would you put that in the dat? :P -- Mini Me 18:09, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

To make sure he doesn't forget it of course /doh --Elemonk Nibo 18:16, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

There's no weapon contest at all, btw again is the programme to read gw.dat legaal ore not? Because it is an intresting programme but I think it isn't allowed. Death Sligher 20:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

A while back there was. And it's legal, yes. -- Mini Me 20:38, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Guilda II minipet?

We all heard the tales from izzy, we all know he is being oppressed, and we all know you set Guilda II out to stop him from nerfing echomending. So instead of a futile campaign against this great hamster, We demand a minipet in his likeliness, Rhydeble 18:34, 22 January 2008 (UTC) (PS: reshaping random god statues to his likeliness is alright too)

i want a mini-izzy, and btw echomending have been a problem in most high gvg matches but just bring 3 mesmers with only enchantment removal and scourge enchantment and you'll be fine --Cursed Angel 18:45, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

If nothing can be said, I recommend pictures of cute lil bloodthirsty gerbils as a distraction. --24.179.151.252 17:34, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Gerbil's ... now you are spoilering about cantha new year? Because year of the rat. I'm hating that date.gw reader. Death Sligher 19:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Playing

Hi Gaile. I was just wondering, do you ever play with the anyone in dev/GW team? Do you play PvP with izzy? Do Dungeon raids with emily? also Is there also a chance that I or at least some other people will get the chance to randomly play with you/them? It would be fun to see if you can survive a dungeon or an elite mission playing with some random players. heh. Renin 02:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I think Gaile has said that she has an account that is not known to players so she may enjoy playing the game without constant messages and the like, you may very well have put the Lich Lord in his place with help from Gaile. -- Broodling 08:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I know that but does she even play with other dev team often? Has she ever played her Gaile Gray toon and played with other random people for fun? Renin 04:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, if you notice the level of the Gaile Gray character when she's in game, she's a level 4. Not likely that she actually plays for any particular purpose other than to GM, or that character would have more experience by now. GenXer 18:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, my "visiting girl" is a Level 7; she has been Level 7 since I accidentally leveled her from 6 during the 2006 Wintersday Festival. I keep her a 7 for sentimental reasons, nothing more. However, I have eight other accounts, a character of every profession, and I play the game nearly daily. Yes, I play in PUGs all the time. No, I don't generally identify myself, not because I'm being sneaky but because (1) often I just want to play and (2) playing with groups, watching obs mode, or just sitting anonymously in town is a good way for me to learn how the community works, and get some candid windows on player experience, and all these things -- I think especially knowing and loving the game -- help me do my job to the best of my ability. -- Gaile 18:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

So do you often form a group of some of the devs for a funrun on a dungeon perhaps? Or do PvP with Izzy? I'm assuming that with many accounts, some of the devs know or you in game. Or was I wrong? I am not flaming, forming groups with friends are always fun. Renin 17:39, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, missed the question. I'm in a guild that includes some Guild Wars Team members, and once testing starts for Guild Wars 2, I'm sure I'll be partying with more fellow ArenaNet folks, too. -- Gaile 01:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Rules?

→ moved from Talk:Gaile Gray

Gaile, i got my account suspended for "inappropriate language". Now, i had always thought that sort of thing referred to racial slurs, sexism, discrimination(Which happens to you in DoA anyways), and things that are just plain gross/disturbing. However, all i did was swear(And yes, it was quite a bit). Which got me thinking, why are we getting suspended for dropping the F bomb when there's a chat filter? It really makes no sense if you ask me. It seems like people should not get suspended for swearing no matter how many times they do it as long as it's in a joking/casual manner. Maybe this isn't the best place to ask, but oh well. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:99.225.4.255 (talk).

It depends where you were swearing imho. If you swearing in "All", "Trade" or any other form of public chat then i believe you deserve a temporary ban. If however you were swearing in whisper when chatting to a mate or in team with adult friends or maybe even in alliance/guild chat if it is understood in your guild/alliance that everyone doesnt mind, then i think that would be somewhat oppressive of anet to punish. Either way however anet have a right to police their game how and as they deem fit. -- Salome 13:31, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

And think there's a good point here though. So what he was swearing? There's a chat filter, if I was offended by swearing in general I would leave the filter on. If he was swearing creatively (in such a way as to bypass the filter) that would be another issue. Likewise if he was swearing at someone, or swearing via use of slurs. But just swearing in general when there's a method for people to censor him on their end? I don't see the big deal. - HeWhoIsPale 13:45, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

srsly temporary ban for swearing? wth is the chat filter for? --Cursed goes sockpuppeting 14:01, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Contrary to popular belief, not so people can swear at their heart's content. -- Elv 17:13, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Have to agree with Elv on this one. However I do agree with the others that the chat filter is somewhat redundant if you get banned for swearing anyway. I think taking out the chat filter would be a better idea as it makes the issue and anet's stance somewhat clearer (especially as it annoyingly blanks words like "Ass", meaning playing and talking about the assasin class can be somewhat problamatic; it also rather offensivly blanks out the word "gay" or at least it did last time I checked but this may have changed.) -- Salome 17:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I switched mine off not because I approve of swearing, but because words like Assassin and Damned Cleric got blocked. I also did not agree with some of the words that were blocked on linguistic basis- words like 'ass' and 'gay' have more than one meaning, and are far from always used in a negative sense- never even mind if they're parts of a larger word like the Assassin example above. Personally I always thought of the filter as a way to protect younger and more easily offended players from the people who can't control themselves. It's switched on by default, so if someone goes on a swearing spree in a town at least these people won't have to see it. Switching off the filter is, after all, a very conscious decision. Does that mean you should have to put up with swearing? No. Should the filter be disabled altogether? Definitely not. Of course swearing will happen, so people who want to avoid it should have the means to do so.

I myself can forgive a slip of the tongue and an inserted f-word, provided it doesn't happen every sentence and isn't spammed. I wouldn't report a player just for saying it once. I have, however, reported a handful of players over the past 2,5 years for spamming their foul-mouthed use of language in local chat. I've explained why I switched off my own filter, so it should be clear that I didn't do it because I approve of swearing or enjoy seeing it. It certainly doesn't mean that as a consequence of that, I should put up with another player's bad attitude.

The rule on swearing is actually pretty clear. You're not supposed to. It's rude, it's unnecessary (there are, after all, other ways of expressing yourself) and it will probably spoil the gaming experience of other players. If these players report you, it means that you have. Take a look at the rules and the code of conduct, and you'll see that ruining a player's experience is also not tolerated. Being told not to swear makes perfect sense to me. The filter is just there so that one person's bad behaviour isn't broadcast to the world at large without obstacles.

As a last remark (because I just realised this is turning into a long and boring bit of rambling) I'd like to say that I do think the filter could use improvement. It might be a difficult thing to implement, but perhaps it's not a bad idea to allow players to add their own 'good' or 'bad' list of words. That way, an ambiguous word like 'ass' wouldn't be filtered unless you set your filter to do so. Maybe that's something for the suggestions page though? :) -- Elv 19:41, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

"Damn" shows up at least 15 times in game dialog, so if you're that offended by swearing, maybe you should go play something else. I also don't see how swearing could be construed as "ruining a player's experience," unless you were to whisper them and swear at them repeatedly, and that's another matter entirely. Lord Belar 20:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

A lot of people find swearing offending. Not everyone is equally easily offended, but it's not exactly an unknown issue to players. You know you're probably going to offend people if you start swearing in local chat, so you also know that you'll be ruining a few people's game time and it's not an attitude that should be endorsed. Unfortunately swearing is everywhere- on the net as well as real life. Should people stop going places and stop doing things just to avoid swearing? Of course not. That's twisting the whole problem around. The issue is not with the people who take offense at swearing- it's with the people who lack the self control to refrain from spamming obsceneties where others will see. (And "damn" shouldn't be in the filter in the first place. If the game itself uses the word, then it seems odd to filter it out when players use the word.) -- Elv 20:33, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

no elv, the problem is people who find swearing offensive, only those with tragic childhoods, no friends and parents who hit them and/or is emo find it offensive and should go play hellokitty online instead. Not saying that gw is hardcore but even 12 year olds does not find it offensive and swear themselves. --Cursed Angel 20:51, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Uhm, no. Just no. Taking offense at swearing isn't the result of a bad childhood or lack of friends, it's usually a sign of some degree of manners. I take offense at some forms of swearing and I'm certainly not someone who fits into any of the categories you mentioned. I just feel that it's not necessary to express yourself in a way that will cause grief to others, and I know for a fact that there are more polite ways of conveying a message. I am far from the only person to think so. I won't claim to be an angel, because I do slip up myself sometimes, but by and large swearing isn't the way to go if you want to express yourself. It certainly won't raise another person's expectations of your intellect. -- Elv 21:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

If someone saying a word causes you grief, you've got other problems. Naturally, spaming "fuck" in all chat isn't acceptable behavior, and there generally isn't a reason to swear in all chat anyways, and never in trade, but as long as it isn't spaming, swearing in team/whisper/guild/alliance should be fine. Lord Belar 21:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

So suppose I were dark-skinned and took offense at use of the n-word, I've got issues? I don't entirely agree. If you take offense at the word "bunny" you definitely have issues, but if you get irritated because someone feels the need to spam crude words describing certain parts of female anatomy, for instance, then I'd say it's perfectly understandable if you take offense. I agree with you that it shouldn't be policed as much in guild or alliance chat- that's a matter that can be settled with guild/alliance rules and a simple kick if necessary. Whispering would be a case-by-case thing, though, because it concerns personal and direct interaction. -- Elv 21:23, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Obviously you didn't read my previous comment very carefully: "spaming "fuck" in all chat isn't acceptable behavior, and there generally isn't a reason to swear in all chat anyways, and never in trade." Lord Belar 21:37, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually I agreed with you there, but I guess my phrasing was a little poor. The first half of my comment refers to the first sentence, the rest was a response to everything else. :) -- Elv 21:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

A lot of people finding swearing offensive, yes, but there's also the chat filters to block these kinds of things. Pretty much everyone in this conversation has said this. Personally, if you switch off the chat filter you don't really have the right to complain about generally offensive words like the 'f' or 'c' words but can still complain about their use if it just gets disgusting, discriminative or downright disturbing. Perhaps you should email Anet support directly and find out what was so offensive that it warranted the suspension. If its just because you use general swear words in an unaggressive way you can argue 'whats the point of the chat filter then?' Might not have much luck but at least you'll know why you got suspended. House Of Furyan 04:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd like everyone to step back, take a deep breath, and move away from this topic. There will never be a resolution on this and unless ArenaNet starts banning people for this incredibly strictly, it's not worth getting into another never-to-get-resolved Guild Wars Wiki talk:No profanity. And one more thing for everyone to keep in mind regarding those who get banned: They tend to make it seem like they're victims, so there's really nothing to speculate about unless we actually know what happened first hand. -- ab.er.rant 08:00, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) The filter is not designed to be the be-all and end-all for protecting players from offensive behavior. It's a shame we have to have a filter at all, and certainly we see both sides of the issue, from those wanting absolute control to those wanting no control at all. The simple answer is that the game is a social setting, and just as there are expectations for reasonable behavior in other social settings -- a movie theatre, a restaurant, a shopping mall -- there are expectations that players will use a modicum of self-restraint in the game. If you're under the impression that paying for a fine steak dinner somehow buys you the right to dance on the tabletops or shout expletives while in your neighborhood eatery, well, the manager is going to show you how sorely mistaken you are when he tosses you out on your ear and follows it up with your fine steak dinner. :)

Seriously, though, the point is there are social and cultural expectations for both public and private settings. If someone swears "quite a bit" in All Chat, as in the case that the OP cited, then it's entirely practical to expect that that person may be given a time-out for having crossed the line from reasonable to unacceptable. It is not fair to say "use the word filter" in excessive cases any more than it's fair to say "use your door locks or I have the right to steal from you."

Now, you may be interested to know that the same standards of acceptability are not enforced in all levels of chat, and we would not take the same action for someone using swear words in Guild Chat that we would take for someone swearing excessively in All Chat. And lastly, this isn't about "freedom of speech" in any level whatsoever, so please let's not go there. Thanks. -- Gaile 19:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice analogies, Gaile, and I'd have to agree with you on this one.--MP47 (Talk) (Contr.) 19:30, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

GDC 2008

Hey Gaile, I was wondering if you had anything to say about A.Net regarding the upcoming Games Developer Conference? --Ravious 12:41, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

ArenaNet will not be attending GDC. A few employees may attend, I suppose, but this isn't an event that we attend as a company, or at which we have any sort of official presence. We will be putting all our "official presence-ness" into PAX in Seattle and GC in Leipzig. :) -- Gaile 08:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! It would be awesome if Strain was re-invited to talk at GC. I still read that speech from time to time... mostly to try and understand GW2 design philosophy more. Anyway thanks for the response. --Ravious 13:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Izzy

Dear Gaile,

just out of curiosity, how is Izzy doing? He hasn't been on his talk pag for a long time and I was kinda wondering if he is doing allright. Sincerely, Nicky Silverstar 08:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[2] did i get that right? anyway the answer is on that archive --Cursed Angel 10:33, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I still hope he's in good health and all (and not too much stress). Sorry to bother you guys. Nicky Silverstar 21:55, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Are you looking for a skill update? Whats with the whole " I Love izzy thing " ? 24.141.45.72 03:04, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, unlike SOME people, I never verbally assaulted Izzy. Instead, I want(ed) to help him with his job. And, well, I am curious. Nicky Silverstar 14:48, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Guild Wars Character Skeleton

Just a question you might already know the answer to, it is in regards to the skeleton that playable characters use for their animation: "I was wondering if the skeleton of the playable character is a generic skeleton or do each profession / gender have a unique skeleton?" I know in some Pc and Console games the skeletons are shared between all 'humans' (for example) and its just the animations that are different. House Of Furyan 07:13, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

ah, I feel no love lol House Of Furyan 11:10, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

According to our Animation Team Lead, Rebecca Coffman, there are a number of different human skeletons. We don't use the "one skeleton works for all" process. -- Gaile 00:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. House Of Furyan 00:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

You Were Right..

when you said there were all sorts in the dat *cough* -- Brains12 \ Talk 22:16, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

That's one of the winners of the factions emblem comp. As I recall it split the community... half thought it hilarious the other half thought someone who'd put effort in should have won. --Aspectacle 22:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Aaah, that makes more sense. Whilst funny, I say I have to agree with the latter half... -- Brains12 \ Talk 22:29, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

We had that for our cape for a day. :P - BeX 22:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I was rereading the PC Gamer GW2 issue, and in the PvP section, the players have this abomination on their cape.--Pyron Sy 22:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

It's on my guild cape. Half the guild hates it, but our gl won't let them remove it. :P Lord Belar 23:28, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

great to hear, now i finnally know why there's such an...uhm strange? guild emblem in the selection. However, i will now never get how this could win against one of the emblems in the honorable mentions. Maybe the "inventive" look? —ZerphaThe Improver 05:23, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Their was complete uproar on the forums about this if I remeber correctly, divided people quite effectively. I still fall into the hating camp on this one, but then for some reason anet persist in picking one crap winner, in amongst the deserving winners, each time. Felix the Charr anyone? -- Salome 10:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. There are some odd things in the .dat. *cough, cough* — Galil 23:58, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Ignore slots

Hi Gaile, not sure who to talk to about this, so I'll just stick it here. We're currently limited to ten ignore slots, right? Considering the recent explosion in spambots in-game, it'd be nice if that amount was about quadrupled or removed altogether. I've been getting constant whispers for as long as an hour after I've left the Isle of Balthazar, and my slots are all already full with other bots. --64.202.126.223 05:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

u can un-ignore some names after a time since bots who spam there gets banned quickly --78.82.75.156 12:49, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

That is what I recommend: After a few days, clear your ignore list, as it's unlikely you will meet those folks again. Add the new irritants and you're good. And yes, having more ignore slots would be good, I do understand. That may be something we can improve in Guild Wars 2. -- Gaile 02:34, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Chronomancer

Hi Gaile, one of my friends sent me a little screenie from your talk yesterday (?) where you mentioned about 'Chronomancers'. It's a little concept a friend of mine and I came up with in the RP Guild 'The Orphans of Kukai'! I'd love to tell you more about it sometime if you're interested =P It's basically time travel though xD - Kiyoshi Ryuu [Aeromancer, Orphans of Kukai]

Chronomancers were also a possible profession for the cancelled Utopia. --fraught · (talk) 13:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh really? Well I'll be damned, never knew that! Maybe it can be brought up in Guild Wars II? - Kiyo

can it be a new skin?

there are a few instances of weapons we see in game but not useable by players :P, something like the eternal blade. Think a few more could be added later on maybe? some examples are-the pointy stick from Minister cho's estate misson cinematic(could be a nice spear),the daggers aspects of kanaxia wield,the staffs jotun wield,and a few others i cant remember ><,but since their alrdy an in game code im guessing,think they could be added in the future? also anyone can think of a skin related to the ones above,add it :p.Snipey lizard 21:36, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I've been following the posts in here and Gaile has mentioned that there will be new skins, she just doesn't know if they'll announce it or not. Make it into a big surprise, who knows? As to when? I can't say also. Renin 02:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Please don't let it become another polar bear incident, where the item is only available for a weekend or so haha -Warior kronos 14:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Rata Sum

Hi Gaile! I just had the chance to run into you (Lion Mask and Sweet Tooth Title and all) out of the blue in Rata Sum American dis 1. I waved at you but you must have been afk. Or you didnt know who I am, as I am sure you get a lot of that sort of thing. Plus, I was on my Assassin - Nikki Quickkill - and not on the character most know me as (Holy Hottie). But I am still amazed - you were on Gaile Gray, which you use to visit with players, and not on International Servers as you usually are. Still, the odds of running into you or any other Anet staff member out of the blue like that is pretty low with all the people that play, so I wouldn't be disappointed if you didn't know who I was. I did take a picture of it for a personal souvenir though :). Nbajammer 00:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Roller Beetle in Town...

I saw a player in the roller beetle form in town, specifically in Lion's Arch next to the rock, paper, scissors guy. He was sitting there doing the beetle spin dance. When asked about how he did that, he didn't respond and instead rolled off.

Is this some kind of glitch or just something I don't know about? -- Amazing Goat 03:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

There's beetle juice and everlasting beetle juice tonics that turn you into rollerbeetles. -- Armond Warblade 03:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Beetle Juice Tonic. Calor 03:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Question

Just a question: how large is the chance that something like the 5-for-1 minipet tradein will happen next year with the rat? I just want to know wheter I should start hogging (no pun intended) them already, so I will have enough next year. Nicky Silverstar 20:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

P.S. I honestly mean this as a question. It can be viewed negatively, but it is not intended as ~sarcasm or criticism.

I don't think so, they weren't given out as drops this year 88.110.36.104 20:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I also don't think so, but I didn't think so last year, so if there is a chance, I'd rather have an early warning. Nicky Silverstar 07:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Highly unlikely since there's no over population of rats this time around. Renin 08:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Nicky Silverstar 21:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Alliance Planning Event

Hey Gaile, Quick simple question for ya, the alliance im in and the guild im with is wanting to put on an event for the game in an out post some place in Guild Wars. We were curious about doing so I figured Id come and ask you about it if we can or not or what we needed to do to do so. Thanks a lot and hope to hear back from ya, Shredder101 05:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Btw if you wanna lemme know by email, you can email me at Captainamerica_doom@hotmail.com or ping me in game sometime on the name Shredders Revenge.

Hey, there. It's great that your alliance would like to hold a in-game event or party. We have had a lot of successful events in the past, where different guilds and alliances have come up with an idea and have gotten together to coordinate an event. For example, several have held birthday parties where they have invited other players outside the alliance/guild to participate, such as those held by Lowland Lions or DvD Forums, or GWOnline Guild. Some alliances have created a brand-new party theme, like the Easter Egg Hunt, Mursaat Rally, Ascalon Royal Family Masquerade Ball, Oktoberfest, and New Year's Awakening. Some guilds or alliances sponsor district support during one of our holiday events, as did DVDF, AVE, and several other guilds during the Canthan New Year 2008. And of course some guilds put together PvP events with the help of sponsors, such as last fall's RAWR Cup, which will have its second tournament in the spring of 2008.

I would encourage your alliance members to look at the pages of the popular events mentioned above for ideas of how to organize an event. You will want to give a lot of time in advance to properly plan, and you'll need a group of active, committed members to help organize and run an event. I imagine those groups that have hosted events would be happy to answer your questions on their guild pages or on a fan forum. Best of luck! -- Gaile 20:24, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Logitech G15 Keyboard

Hello Gaile, first time 'posting' here. I was wondering if we are allowed to use the macro keys on G15 Keyboards without getting banned. ArenaNet gave one out for a sweepstakes, so I don't see why we wouldn't be able to. Hope to hear from you soon ^^--71.104.108.249 06:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you can use them all you want. Just don't automate things to a point where you're botting/or afk, or gaining some advantage. Kuntz 09:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Would using them to press eight 15 times in boxing in 1 second (there is a little delay though) be called 'gaining some advantage'? --71.104.108.249 18:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

If you are there...no...but i cant figure out how to do it...so i just click skill 8, press 8 above letters on keyboard, and 8 on numpad repeatedlyKiller Revan 02:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I have a mouse that can use macro's for the mouse buttons. I would like to use them for emotes and since that can only possibly give me some advantage in the Tihark Orchard mission, is that ok? Nicky Silverstar 08:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Also, just out of curiosity, is it 'legal' to make a button that targets the closest enemy AND attack it?

There's a keyboard that has keys for the emotes, so I assume it is legal to make those keys do that on another keyboard? Nicky Silverstar 09:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) The keyboard is fine, but as others cautioned, you should not get it so macro'd out that it auto-targets, auto-attacks, auto-picks-up-the-loot, and auto-brew-you-an-espresso-while-you-play. ;) -- Gaile 00:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, drat, so I have to get up and get my coffee myself now? :( -- Elv 09:03, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I only have one button, so now I have to decide what emote to assign...Nicky Silverstar 07:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

texmod

Would texmod be considered an exploit? It gives users the ability to change any texture, even to transparent within the game. We know it does mapping and that's just part of the 'strategic edge'.. but it can do alot more. Comments? And when can we start banning users for this? ;p

As far as the previous conversations about this topic goes, they will not support texmod if anything happens to your game and system. They view it as safe since only you can see your modification and that it does not harm anything in-game. It also does not let you play without you playing which means that you're safe. I've been using it for my carto and it helps and since the carto title does not ruin in-game economy, while HFFF MAY be viewed differently with the use of texmod. I still think it's safe to use since, once again, it only helps you strategically. Of course with the advent of hfff i don't know if that part is safe. Renin 09:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know how much benefit it gives HFFF runners. I know the spots and blobs and shadows on the map from memory anyway. Having it with texmod wouldn't change anything. Especially considering the screenshots I've seen of the mods out there don't use the same spots as I do. - BeX 09:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

When can we start banning users for HFFF? Right away! It seriously threatens the GW... uh... gameplay... or something... -Auron 09:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You can find the definitive answer here: Guide_to_modifying_in-game_graphics#ArenaNet. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 09:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Well hold on there, I belive that ANET's official position is now [quote] "The beauty of Guild Wars is your ability to experience what you want, and what you are able to experience, while another player may enjoy and pursue completely different elements of the game. Please remember that Guild Wars is a global game with millions of players, and realize that not every thing is easily obtained by every player, but that for every player, a multitude of opportunities do exist. Us players being offered fresh goals, new features, and expansions of the game experience -- in large ways and in small -- it a very, very good thing." So if you are not willing or able to do something that another player has or can do, you can just be quiet and go stand in a corner with the rest of us.........Hagarr 15:26, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It would be fairly trivial for someone to learn the locations rather than use the HFFF aid, especially as those who farm FFF usually do it repeatedly for hours. The positions on the map are pretty obvious (once pointed out on the wiki or elsewhere). I find it a bit farfetched to say that it provides an advantage. -- Alaris 20:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hehe...

You know, Gaile Warnings doesn't exist, hehe... ;). --Treasure Boy 19:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Errrr... What?! Gale warnings are real, we get them in the UK all the time. I believe this is what we like to refer to as a "pun", dear boy. -- Salome 01:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

He means her character Gaile Warnings....68.151.27.108 01:59, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I think by Gaile Warnings, it's a joke at how her name is Gaile, which is also a type of storm, which also has it's own warning codes. — ク Eloc 貢 06:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Gaile Warnings is just a mule, so I guess Gaile deleted the char after getting rid of her stuff. -- Hong 06:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

That would be 'Gale' and not "Gaile" as in gale force winds. Gale.

It's a words on play. -- Alaris 20:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Activity of Izzy on the wiki

This is somewhat related to the topic above. Isaiah's last contribution on the wiki was in early november. Meanwhile, lots of editors here still contribute to his overpowered and underpowered skills section. In fact those parts were one of the mayor points drawing people on this wiki when it was founded. However with no apparant feedback, people start feeling ignored and react rather negatively. It would be very helpful if you could ask Isaiah whether he plans to further use the wiki as a tool to get community input. If he decides against that, we could post a note on his talk page warning people that the input will most likely not be read to prevent bad feelings.

Additionally, I asked Isaiah whether he would want a more community managed approach of that section to cut down the amount of comments he has to read as well as shield him from the sometimes rather not nice comments, while keeping the section working as a means of relaying information. So far there has been no answer (most likely because he stopped reading his wiki talk page).

The overpowered/underpowered section was a great asset to the wiki and it would be cool to restore it in some way, however if that is not possible/wanted, we need a clear word about it. --Xeeron 13:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Without addtional policys in place, you can not moderate a section for everyone. We need clear rules that people can adhere to....as alot of people do not have good judgement, or feel they need someone to vent to. And historically, it seems Izzys page catches most of the flack. Med Luvin 15:12, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Check the last link in my post to see that the proposal is possible and something similar is already practised here. --Xeeron 17:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

It would be nice to get a statement from Izzy on wheter or not we should continue asking for buffs/nerfs. And if we're doing something wrong, we'd really like to know, so we can fix it (at least, I would like to know if I am doing something wrong from someone else than Readem). Nicky Silverstar 20:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The Under/Overpowered sections have become the Gaza Strip of the wiki. I don't care if Izzy follows every single word on those pages (which I doubt he does), those pages need to somehow be fixed. If anyone has any idea how to make those pages friendlier and more effective, without slurs at Izzy, then bring them up somewhere. Community Portal talk should suffice for now. Calor 20:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Izzy would do better do get rid of the pages and just listen to people like ensign. The vast majority of players are bad, and their ideas fail. This then creates tension between better players and the bad ones, so you get all the rage. Lord of all tyria 20:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

They'd work great if we handed out a one day ban to anyone making insulting and/or nonconstructive comments on those pages. Lord Belar 22:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Sparking more anger, and more work for the admins. Calor 00:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Xeeron, don't you think this topic would be better at Izzys page, not Gailes? — ク Eloc 貢 02:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

What about moving the skill feedback pages to a project page? Something like Guild Wars Wiki:Projects/Skill feedback. -- Gordon Ecker 03:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Eloc, if you've read Xeeron's comments, you should have seen the paragraph where he explained that he already asked Izzy and had not gotten a reply... -- ab.er.rant 03:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Language on Izzy's pages are appalling and I'm surprised administrators haven't taken care of those offenders. Perhaps they did but I am not seeing it since those curses are still there. Barinthus 05:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

It's a wiki not a forum, despite being used like one. I suspect that the worst offenders have been dealt with but wikis have a very don't mess with others comments approach to talk pages and it shows with some nasty sentiment just sticking around. Perhaps the more popular pages like Izzy's, the game update pages and this page should be run more like a forum (moderation of posts, merging of "threads", semi-protection against anon IPs). I know it isn't "wiki" but the alternative is pretty ugly. --Aspectacle 06:02, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Izzy would do better do get rid of the pages and just listen to people like ensign. The vast majority of players are bad, and their ideas fail. This then creates tension between better players and the bad ones, so you get all the rage. Lord of all tyria 20:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC) It is posts like this, that basically say shut up noob, you suck at the game so you may not say anything (though you said it a more polite manner than most) that can create a conflict. While some people may be really good at the game and can offer great insight, just as many are just as good but will only suggest changes that fit with their view of how the game should be, while some new players may actually do something wrong and make a great suggestion. I think Izzy is more than capable at filtering out the bad suggestions himself, so I am highly against any 'banning of noobs'. Good people can have bad ideas and bad people good ideas, and there isn't 1 person who know everything about this game. And involving new players in dicussions and explaining why their ideas don't seem so good to you might actually imrpove their understanding of the game. Nicky Silverstar 09:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok I understand it's a wiki and all of that. However, it seems to me what goes on that page amounts to verbal abuse. One or two choice words here and there - that I can understand. But the amount I see on that page is extreme and way beyond any civilized standards. And since the community isn't doing something about those individuals, they are equally responsible as well for tolerating such behavior. I however do acknowledge that I don't know what goes behind the scene so... anyway that penny arcade link on your page says it all. Barinthus talk 14:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe he's just THAT busy? I mean he is part of the dev team for GW2 and I'm sure they only wiki during their free time, maybe he just does not have extra time to respond? Hey, just a thought. I've had guildmates who goes missing 8 months, of course they weren't part of GW but you know what I mean. Vacation perhaps? Just being candid here! Renin 14:58, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

There is no doubt that the abusive behavior must stop. I try not participate in it, but its hard when people are picking on you. The question is more: after that has been fixed, what do we need to do once again be able to help Izzy with his job? Nicky Silverstar 15:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm working on cleaning it up and overhauling it, until thats finished please excuse the mess. ~Izzy @-'---- 17:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Izzy seems to have done a lot of housekeeping, so head on over and post your thoughts! -- Gaile 00:21, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

A (Belated) Thank You

I haven't had a chance to post everything I wanted to sooner, but I finally got around to it today. I didn't get a chance to catch you in our Guild Hall for the big 'thank you' spam (it was a little too late for me), so I figured I'd just do it here. So thank you, Gaile, for attending our event, and for making it that much more fun for everyone. It was a blast, and an honour to have you taking part in the way you did. I wrote an entry on my blog about it, screenies and everything. If you've any care to see happy event screenshots along with my babbling, you can have a look at it here. Thanks again. :) -- Elv 13:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I was very happy to attend the event, and sure am thankful to have been invited. :) -- Gaile 00:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Happy valentines day!

Happy valentines day gaile!!!!!!!!!!!!!--The Forsaken One 21:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, Happy Valentine's to you and your colleagues :) Here's some and for you all! Sorry for the chocolate bunny, that's only thing I could find at the store ;) Barinthus 02:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I forgot to post. :D Thanks for the greetings -- very nice of you to think of sending a note. :) -- Gaile 00:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Death of Guild Leader

I hate to be the bearrer of horrible news, Gaile, but today after a few weeks of wondering where our Guild Leader disappeared to, we found out the worst news we could ever hear. Our Guild Leader - Known as Sacred Witchknight, killed himself with an apparent shotgun wound. This is terrible news to all in the guild The Coven and we would like to remember him because he was a great leader for many years. His name was Mark and he left us on January 25th. I do not have any other information at this time, but I am in contact with other members who have known him for 14 years. Is there some way we could do something for him on Guild Wars as a funeral, and perhaps have you visit? Thanks Gaile. Devi Talk 18:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

woah, that's really terrible o.o do you know any reasons for that? - Y0_ich_halt 19:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC) ::woah, that's really terrible o.o do you know any reasons for that? - Y0_ich_halt 19:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

if i may ask. - Y0_ich_halt 19:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Devi, maybe post something on your guilds page if you haven't already? — ク Eloc 貢 19:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

As much as I feel for your loss, I don't think Anet can involve itself in such things, otherwise everyone would be asking for it in such sad times. Wouldn't it be more fitting to hold a little ceremony in the Guild Hall yourself with all the friends and guildmates that knew him. I hope I don't come across as cruel, as I know the pain of loss myself. House Of Furyan 20:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

that made me feel sad --90.227.105.24 23:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Wow.. something like this makes me wish that they had a crateful of flowers for the guildhall- instead of fireworks. -elviondale (tahlk) 01:10, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm terribly sorry to hear that news Devi, but I have to agree with House of Furyan on this. A small guild service might be best in that you can remember him properly together. Also in regards to Elviondale's comment, maybe thats something we could do. As in i know crates of flowers dont exist but Red Iris Flowers do. We could all collect them and donate them to the guild in memory of Mark, I know it sounds a little on the naff side but its all i can think of to do, with the limited resources within GW, as a sign of respect to their GL. -- Salome 10:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I'm very sorry to learn of your guild's loss, and of course my heart goes out to Mark's friends and family in real life, as well. I think that the suggestions that other members of the community have given are very good. It would be a dignified and fitting tribute to gather the guild to remember Mark. I'm sure the guild hall would have special meaning to each of you, and would be the best place for such a memorial. My thought are with you. -- Gaile 08:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks everyone, I am still learning new information. The people in our guild who knew him personally have been hard to get in touch with. This has been a shock to all of us and in the Dynasty Warrior Alliance. Once I get more information I will post it on our guild's wiki page. I loved the idea about the Red Iris flowers, I never even thought of that. I will run that by some of the other members. Thanks again and hopefully this doesn't happen to anyone else. Devi Talk 13:48, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey everyone, especially Gaile - Here is the link to Mark's obituary Tallahassee Democrat

That's very sad to read. I think it must be a comfort to his family to know that, as they said, he is now at peace. -- Gaile 00:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Althea

So I'm listening to the Guild Wars soundtrack, and I see a track specifically for Althea. This immediately got me thinking, so I looked into the wiki and found she was indeed rather important, but really she's nowhere near as important as the people who did get tracks also, like the NPCs you party with, but even THEN not all of them have personalized tracks! So I'm wondering, Gaile, if you knew whether or not this character was originally going to be big in Guild Wars lore? Vael Victus 21:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, in terms of lore, she is quite a featured character. There is a lot of history and speculation about her- and some quests in both pre- and post-searing directly related to her. -elviondale (tahlk) 00:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Which makes me think only more that she was supposed to be featured as an NPC or at least an ally, but at last minute, was not. Vael Victus 16:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I just read her story, it's pretty tragic. I can see how such a "minor" character could have a song dedicated to her. -- Alaris 17:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking about this, and I do not believe that Althea was ever intended to serve as an ally NPC (such as a Henchman or Hero). As to the music dedicated to her, I believe that in a way, Althea comes to represent -- along with Sarah in the game, Mordakai in lore, and a handful of other key figures -- the devastation and the poignant loss that scored the heart and soul of Tyria as a result of The Searing. So while Althea's role is small, it is also very signficant. For that reason, I love that there is a song for her, as a tender tribute to her and to what she represents. -- Gaile 01:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

GW2 On Schedule?

Just a quick question if your ALLOWED to answer... lol. Is GW2 currently on schedule? Or is it a little delayed (Just saying this because with almost ALL of the big games that have come out or are coming out in the past 2 years are so have always been delayed example: GTA4, SmashBros: Brawl, all that jazz.)

So if you could give a simple yay... or nay... it would make us feel happy to know a little bit more about the game. ^^--'ÑöẊĭƑý 20:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, now, NoXiFy. Since we haven't set a release date, how could our game be delayed? :) Seriously, things are moving along really well, with good news about progress and innovation at every week's Leads Meeting. I think you shouldn't worry -- things are going great! -- Gaile 01:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

That's the kinda talk we get when we ask about "Duke Nuke'em: Forever©" :( But on a serious side, good to hear things are moving smoothly. --Lou-Saydus 22:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Is this Legal or Approved by ArenaNet?

Guild Wars Shirts being sold here: http://335481.spreadshirt.net/en/GB/Shop http://community.livejournal.com/guildwars/758200.html Just asking as I couldn't find them listed in the GuildWars Product page nor is it from PlayNC or PennyArcade. ~ Sabastian 22:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Seems unlikely it is approved, but considering all they contain is 2 letters and a slash I would be dubious about any chance of claiming copyright infringement, there are no trademarked logos involved. --Lemming 22:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

There are no logos on them but near the top of the page on the first link it does say "Guild Wars fan clothing and accessories" so there is very little doubt on where the inspiration for the shirts came from. Whether it is illegal or not, I still want one. -- Broodling 22:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. These shirts have not been approved or licensed by ArenaNet. -- Gaile 16:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Seems pricey for a shirt that says R/Rt on it. ANet's shirts are much nicer. -- Alaris 17:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

• wears official ranger T-shirt with pride* -- (Tribina / talk) 19:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Just the typeface used(web font) and the amount of people saying they want one makes me want to quit designer studies on the spot... Price seems normal for a t-shirt in the EU. - nian 22:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I like that the first link has changed to "Unofficial games clothing and accesseries. In that this site is not associated with any game in particular..."

Oh no nian, don't quit over stupid people like me, as much as I want one I'm not stupid enough to spend money on something that simple. It's one of those things you see in a store window, laugh for a second and move on. -- Broodling 23:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Or make for yourself very, very cheaply. ;) Kokuou 03:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

True that. Just ignore me being an arse because I couldn't help it. Self-righteousness ftl :s. I would really like an Anet shirt tho. - nian 16:16, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Bow Collections

Gaile, I was reading about your collection. Are you picky about requirements for gold bows? Personally I am - I insist on perfect damage and req 9 (or less since I did find a perfect shield with req 8 once so I am assuming it's possible although extremely rare). Anyway just am asking in case I do come across a skin you haven't added to your collection :-) – Barinthus 11:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, there. I'm not really picky about my gold bows as far as their being perfect or anything like that. After all, it's not polite to look at a gift that way! Since there are so many modifiers for weapons, I don't have the objective of getting every possible bow with every possible modifier. My hope is to have one of every gold skin. Which, when I look at the list, is a LOT! I'm going to try to update my page today to list all that I have. It's a fun objective, I think, and I know it's definitely a long-range one. :) -- Gaile 20:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

On the topic of your bow collection, I have a Gargash's Recurve that I literally can't give away. Nobody seems to want it. If you'd like it, just send me a whisper the next time you're visiting the players and it's yours. I'm sure I'm not going to miss the 1-2K that it'd give me. Marin Alacet 01:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

If Gaile doesn't want it, I'll take it - I do collect greens and I don't have Gargash's. Anyway, Gaile - I got a gold Ivory Bow with your name on it if you want it. – Barinthus 02:34, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Gaile would you want an Ironwing Longbow for your collection? Because I don't need it.-- Ninja Dragon 03:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Wow, this is really nice of you guys! I would love to have the Gargash's Recurve -- it's one I've liked for a long time. The Ivory Bow and Ironwing Longbow would definitely fill holes in my collection -- and sound very tasty! -- as well. I don't know your timezones... I'll have to think of a way to meet up. Maybe email me a character name and I'll check to see if you're online when I am? I want to say I really appreciate your help. -- Gaile 04:49, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm on right now but my character's name is Artemis Quinn-- Ninja Dragon 04:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I now see why your always on DnD lol-- Ninja Dragon 05:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Ninja Dragon. Yes, it can get a little wild, but it's great fun to visit with players, and your gift made the visit even more fun. Thanks a bunch. :) -- Gaile 05:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Just curious, but what say you about Stoneherder's Flatbow? -elviondale (tahlk) 05:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, I sorta released the floodgates there didn't I? Anyways, my character name is Marin Alacet. I also live on the west coast, so meeting up shouldn't be a problem. Next time you're visiting with some people (which I can't understand how you can do. I'd end up suspending the whole lot for spamming (= ) just tell me/us what district you are going to, and I/we can meet you there. Marin Alacet 15:42, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

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Gaile I got bored and bought another ammy of the mists, soloed Shiro (Again) then got a Ironwing flatbow. Would you want it for your collection?-- Ninja Dragon 06:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Gaile, I have a feathered flatbow and a caged shortbow that you're welcome to have. Both gold and both low req'ed inscribable. They are just sat in my storage doing nothing so you're more than welcome to add them to your collection. Just pm me in game with a place to meet you and i'll pop along. IGN: Salome Rial, Time zone:GMT (which i think makes me about 7 or 8 hours ahead of you)-- Salome 11:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey Gaile! Would you want another Azure Recurveß I wanted to offer it to you, but then I had a look on your page again and saw you already have one... but should I come across any bow you do not yet have, I wouldn't bother if you wanted it, as I don't need bows anyway, my Ranger has all she needs ;) My IGN is exactly my Wiki-Name, and you can look all of my chars up on my userpage. Oh, and I just found that I have good old Zehtuka's Shortbow lying around, I know, it's not gold etc, but, if you like it despite that, just give it a wsp --Aquila Noctis 12:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Hehe. I have a collection of bows sorting around that I don't have anything I can do with any more. Curiously none of them show in the bow list... anyway, this is what I've got:

• Spiked Recurve Bow
• Amber Longbow
• ... I think a simple "Shortbow"
• Chehbaba's Longbow

If you'd like any of that, feel free to look me up (e.g. userpage)... all free to a good home so to speak. :) -- Sirius 13:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

These are great and generous offers, guys! I will get in touch later to figure out how to do this. *beams* -- Gaile 01:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Userbox:

This User has donated to Gaile's bow collection .

Gaile I made this userbox for people who have donated to your bow collection do you like it? -- Ninja Dragon 21:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

That's sweet of you, Ninja Dragon. It's very nicely made, but... well... there's really no way of establishing whether someone was actually involved in the collection. (I mean, you know, as a donor and all. ;) ) As long as you're ok with that, I'm fine, too.

Oh! That reminds me how much I wish we had an system of "dedication" or "inscription" for items, so that we could rename them or leave notes on them for friends, guidies, etc. In a game I played years ago, I had many special items that friends had given me, and I treasured them over all, even those things "worth" more. Maybe for Guild Wars 2... *pads down hall to designers' room* -- Gaile 01:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Lol. -- Ninja Dragon 20:39, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

That sounds like a neat idea, actually. -- Armond Warblade 21:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Gets my vote, great idea :) Ajax Baby Eater 21:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, I headed down to the Secret Lair of the Designers, as I said I would do, and you know what? Everyone totally liked the idea I shared about dedicating items, or giving gifts, or having a way to sort of make a sentimental inscription or dedication or that sort of thing. I talked to John first, then Curtis, and it sounds as if they have a lot of good ideas, but were definitely willing to listen to the "gift" ideas, too. I don't know how it will end up. Sometimes good ideas just aren't "do-able." But if this one doesn't happen, I know that there will be other cool ways to remember people, and be remembered, in Guild Wars 2. -- Gaile 06:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

You could always bribe them :P -- Ninja Dragon 06:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Why will remember George every day as or officer by just leaving him as a officer in our guild. He is offline for 1year at the moment. But we still remember him in this way. But a gift or soething would be better so I hope they at this in GW2. Then we can make a gift for George. (ps. he dead a year ago) Death Sligher 08:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Say what?☺☻♪♫-- Ninja Dragon 00:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Ninja Dragon, what Death Sligher is mentioning is that his guild lost a well-liked officer about a year ago and DS would like to dedicate an item to George's memory. That's an aspect that I had not really thought about, but it is very nice, too. -- Gaile 06:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, Sorry then Thought you were posting on the wrong thread, sorry again.☺☻♪♫-- Ninja Dragon 02:44, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I must admit, I've been checking out your bow collection and I'm awestruck...Not to mention VERY jealous...But I must ask, do you actually USE all of these bows on a regular basis? Or do you just horde them for fun? It's honestly a little perplexing why someone would go to so much trouble to collect so many bows, although I must admit I admire your dedication...I wish my Ranger had that many, then again I'd never find the time to use them, well, if I come across any Green/Gold bows I don't need then they're all yours. Kinslayer 16:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, I do play a lot of Guild Wars, and so I use the bows quite regularly on my various player characters. (My Lvl 7 self-named "visiting girl" does not really play the game too much, of course. Even The Great Northern Wall would give her a run for her money. ;) ) Anyway, I have a special place I put the bows for storage, when they're not in use. (I'm such a nerd, it's even alphabetized. :D )

As to "why," I don't really know. I just really like the Art Team's bow designs (as well as those that were submitted by fans in past contests) and as a Ranger at heart, collecting them all seems like a cool goal. I'm some way away from that, but I knew it was long-range when I decided to try for it and that's ok. -- Gaile 17:57, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Interesting little insight there, I wish I had the dedication to go for a long term goal like that, but sadly I lack the patience and the time to go for such a massive goal. (Was that pun intended Gaile? "Long Range" goal you say?) Ah well, I'll always admire people like you who actually do have the patience to go for such goals, I wish you luck with it, and like I said, if I come across any gold/green bows I'll probably end up sending them your way, I'm perfectly happy with the three bows I have and never see myself using more, so you're welcome to any I come across. Kinslayer 20:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

GW2 Suggestions

Hi Gaile! House Of Furyan recently asked on the GW2 suggestion page for some indication that the devs actually read the ideas. I was thinking maybe this could be done in a kind of fun way, like, and bare with me here I'm not trying to make work for you, but maybe you could take an informal poll of the devs and ask them for their favorite ideas so far. Of course, it would have to be clear that these were not endorsements of any particular user, and the appreciation of the ideas did not necessarily mean that said ideas would make it into the game. Nonetheless, I think this would be a really fun thing for all of us who have been contributing a lot to the suggestion page and might help us understand what kind of ideas the Devs like or appreciate the most. Plus it would be an easy way of keeping us all excited about GW2! (Satanael 10:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC))

Dunno man, the devs are pretty pressed for time as is I expect... -- Sirius 13:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, there just isn't time to do this sort of thing at the present. Sorry. -- Gaile 17:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

So, are the devs even looking? If not, whats the point the discussions? House Of Furyan 21:23, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the devs are looking, or can look when a subject arises about which they want to see player ideas. The point is, asking them to participate in a poll means a form of obligation that we do not want to place on them. It's the difference between telling information to someone or telling them information while saying "There will be a test." :) If a dev team member has a comment on any particular idea, I'm sure he/she will post it on the suggestion page. Alternately, he or she may share comments with those of us who are active on the GWW, like User:Andrew Patrick and myself and we can post on the page. What I really want to avoid is a feeling that devs need (are required, are obliged) to scour the pages to submit their favourites. That forms a level of requirement that we don't want to heap on an already-busy team. I hope that makes sense, and thanks for understanding.

One way that the GWW community can help the development team with this GWW section is to keep suggestions concise and avoid a lot of off-topic chatter about them on the pages. Long articles about "This is what I want to see in GW2" should be placed on individual user talk pages, not on the suggestion page. I've been archiving, and I've seen a lot of book-length posts that could be better detailed in a sentence or three, perhaps with a link to one's own user page with greater details. This means that if a particular dev is involved with the subject at hand, he/she can read a brief "intro" on the suggestions page and then seek more information on a link, if desired. -- Gaile 21:56, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for answering Gaile, I was pretty sure that this would not happen, but I figured the worst you could say was "no". Well, actually, I think the worst you could have said was "no, you f*ing moron," but I know you're not that kind of person.

I totally agree with you about the necessity for being concise, although it may not be enough to just tell people to "keep it short", maybe we can come up with a suggested limit to the number of words used? Maybe just say, "please try not to use more than about 300 words to describe your suggestion"? You know what, maybe this suggestion belongs above, hang on...(Satanael 07:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC))

I think that your post, Gaile, basically needs to be a Paws To Consider on the Suggestion pages. I might even further suggest that a suggestor embolden one sentence which he or she feels is the crux of the suggestion. That way devs can really hit all the suggestions very efficiently. I think there are two problems: 1) gamers love to talk about their games, and 2) gamers seem to forget (myself included) that the devs understand the suggestion almost inherently... rather than like explaining it to your mom. --User:Ravious 11:06, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Good suggestion about the suggestions. ;) I have added a Paws to Ponder to the top of the main Suggestions pages asking for brevity, and suggesting that folks with longer suggestions can post briefly and then link to a longer exposition on their own talk pages. Thanks for a good idea. -- Gaile 05:57, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

How about an Armory of some sort like you have material storage you can store up to like 10 of each weapon 10 upgrades and 10 inscriptions dunno if its that good of an idea but it would help to save room after i tend to fill up all 4 storage units plus the material storages and also on another note LARGER salvage kits 25 uses isnt that much and they take up so much space. Also i didnt know where else to put this so if its in teh wrong place im sorry i dont know where it should go Forchena 03:40, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Nightfall with Beginner Armor

Hey Gaile, I'm posting for a mate of mine here, coz he isn't registered at the wiki. A few days ago, he finally completed Nightfall withpot buying any armour for his Dervish! Yes, he did kill Abaddon with a Beginner Armour, and if you don't believe it, I was there ;) Now, he already sent a request to Wartower.de, they are maybe going to do an article 'bout ghim, and he asked me to tell it to you on the wiki, as he knew I am registered. If you want to hask him 'bout it yourself, the name of his Dervish is "Dark Scythe Il" --Aquila 12:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

While an interesting feat, it has probably already been done. First, Abaddon is kind of easy. Second, all you need is some friends or guildies to carry you around a little. I don't have the balls to try this myself but it's quite simple, really.- Vanguard 12:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thing is, he didn't do it with mates, but the normal way^^ He did get quite som complaints in Pick-up-groups for dying all the time ;)

Anyway, his main intention was to show it's possible to complete nf without big money for armours etc., and I didn't say that there must be a big big article 'bout it.... it was his idea that I tell it here, anyway...--Aquila Noctis 12:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like someone is just demanding the limelight.- Vanguard 12:55, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm Interesting, but it would had been more interesting if he didn't die once ;) --MageMontu 12:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

This indeed ;) Welll, now he wants to go on in EotN with that armour, he already finished the Norn.... (I hope he fails with that^^) --Aquila Noctis 12:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Doing that with PuGs like you said isn't a great feat really, you just need the patience to find the PuGs that can get you through. Note that any mission in the game is easily completed even with one or more people afk. It would be more impressive if he had done it with Heroes + Henchmen and no other players. -- (gem / talk) 13:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, he just told me that he was using The Deathbringer, which ended him up with 0 AR while attacking. I don't say that it is an actually impossible thing, but it was quite difficult, though still possible --Aquila Noctis 15:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

With some sort of other protection, like Protective Spirit, he would have been clobbered from the get-go. Armor becomes meaningless with such skills, although, would love to see how he avoided such skills as Corrupt_Power. Did he make a video? Sounds impressive, yet experienced players do that kinda thing for the share fun of it. There are a lot of crazy players out there :D

Am I the only one here who thinks this feat rather than sounding impressive, just sounds really selfish and mean?! As in he deliberatly went into pugs knowing he was gonna be a burden on them and form what his mate said above he never warned them beforehand. The only article he should get on him should be entitled "Beware the Muppet of Guild Wars!". As he basically went through guildwars depening on other players skill and team work to carry him through to the end. None of this is impressive, he might as well just be proud of leeching his way all the way through a campaign. Now if he had of done it with henchies or without dying then i would be impressed, but honestly as it stands he sounds like hes just a griefing git and deserves a kick for deliberatly annoying so many pugs! -- Salome 19:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Salome said it best, dude leeched his way trough the game and he is hardly the first. Biz 19:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I wholeheardly agree. In NM all missions can be done with 7 (and prolly 2, if you really adjust your build) people. The fact that he leeched his way there is nothing to be proud of. --Xeeron 23:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I find it a little... ummm... ridiculous to ask for spotlight for finishing Nightfall riding on the shoulders of PuGs... and mostly being cursed at by 7 other people from all over the world each time he plays... it's very frustrating to have one member of a party wasting the monk's time doing avoidable healing and resurrection. -- ab.er.rant 01:41, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Having read the many comments here, I have to agree that there are drawbacks to the feat in the disadvantages that such actions impose on other party members (without their knowledge or consent). Doing this with Heroes and/or Henchies, or with friends who agree to carry the burdon, sure. Toss in Survivor, and the accomplishment is pretty darn impressive. However, under the circs, I'd be more comfortable archiving this discussion. Thanks for understanding. -- Gaile 05:17, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Party Animal and Sweet Tooth

Hey, Gaile, you want some donations? I have a few bottles of sugary blue drinks and a few crates of fireworks lying around with nothing to do...^^ --Aquila Noctis 12:49, 20 February 2008 (UTC) no!

Well... since you asked... I'm going for Level 2 on Sweetness and Level 1 on Party Animal. My visiting girl, Gaile, isn't a player character so she benefits from help. After all, she can't exactly get out there and farm the richer areas at Level 7. ;) I do what I can, which means my PCs are getting shorted, but it's all in good fun, and I do love that she has an honest-to-goodness title. The title is thanks a great deal to the help of friends, of course, although she does a good job at the holiday events getting some of the sweets! -- Gaile 05:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Party Animal Riddle

Hey Gaile, you mentioned in your 'Festival Fun' news item (and during one of your in-game visits) thats theres more about this title than we know. Well Canthan New Year is over, did we miss this 'extra element', some kind hidden bonus/mystery? --Just One More Thing 02:41, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe it were the firework crates??

Someone dug something out of the .dat around the Canthan New Year celebration but nothing happened to that extent during the event. So now we are holding out for the 3^rd birthday celebration. It would be nice if Gaile could comment on this but I doubt she is allowed to talk about unreleased information found in the .dat. -- Broodling 14:51, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I can assure you there wasn't any element missing in the Canthan New Year. I don't know that the potential extra element or bonus/mystery, as you call it, is even part of the game at this point. Nor am I quite sure how or when it will come to be. My only source was a certain amphibian, and we all know he seems to specialize in riddles! ;) -- Gaile 22:37, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Private Contact

Gaile, do you have anyway that users can tell you private things... I'm having extreme trouble with one of the fan sites and would like to express my thoughts about the site in a private e-mail or something.

Feel free to send an email to community@arena.net when having problems with fan sites or similar things. poke | talk 22:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Correct. That's a good address to use. -- Gaile 07:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

We're gonna need...

I noticed your line from jaws, thought u might like to know
"We're gonna need a bigger boat" heh :D XianDrinker

I love that quote, and use it once in a while, in variations. You know, like you invite 4 friends over and 11 show up and you say "I think we're gonna need a bigger living room" or other silly things like that. No idea where you saw me using it, but you have to admit, it's a great line! ;) -- Gaile 22:30, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Your December 3rd entry near then end of your page. Calor 22:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Yep, that's me, twisting yet another movie quote. You should see what I do with all nature of quotes from The Wizard of Oz, perhaps my favourite movie of all time, and I've perfected my Scarlett O'Hara over years of practice. "Oh, I'll think about that tomorrah. After all, tomorrah is another day!" :D -- Gaile 22:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Come on, guys. Let's have some fun!

Please check this page. I talk about it a bit more on my main page. Anyway, you know what to do. ;) -- Gaile 23:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and you can toss in discussion on that page's discussion page, too. Don't be shy, now. -- Gaile 23:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I added what I want to see, 3/5 of them are Charr :P, I will come up with more on my travles no worries. --·•·Crypto·•· 23:37, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Sweepstakes? ;) --Lemming 00:23, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Added my guess and wishlist :P --MageMontu 17:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Why should it be miniature's: people can still buy them, why not something that only a third year account could get some idea's: something costumisched, a /emote, a special pet(maybe a rabbit) just as the rainbow pheonix, special armor part(button on armor with happy birthday? Which can be set on and out just as the guildcap) Death Sligher 17:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Shard Wolf ftw! Been wanting one of these in miniature for quite a while now, would make my day if it snuck into 3rd series. 67.191.245.177 17:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I kinda agree, I'd like something other than a miniature, but if the developers are set on miniatures, I've got some predictions =P-Warior kronos 21:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

How about balloons which you can buy at merch and give 1event point, and they will drop too in the third year event. Death Sligher 10:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Keeping players playing

I understand that Guild Wars 2 is a priority for Anet right now but I was wondering if there is any planned content for Guild Wars yet to be released? Seeing as the community now is in the 'transitional state' between Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 is there anything else planned to keep us playing (this as more and more long term players are completing all the content for the campaigns etc)? I ask this as I've been reading comments and speaking with players in-game about more and more players leaving Guild Wars for green pastures, which is understandable given the nature of such things, but am interested to know, bar events, if there is anything else for us here or are we a good year or two off getting any new Guild Wars related content? Thank you. House Of Furyan 00:27, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Well I'm looking forward to the 3rd birthday celebration that is coming up in under 2 months(?) not to mention the design-a-weapon contest winners will be put into the game soon, from the sounds of it they should be here in the next few weeks. Other than that I have around 30 titles that are definitely going to keep me busy for some time. Obviously grinding out certain title isn't for everyone so I'm not sure what Anet has planned but they usually don't announce things until they are ready to go live, for example I don't remember Costume Brawl or hard mode being officially announced until the update came (correct me if I'm wrong). While the distant future may look bleak I doubt that there is nothing new to expect. Just my 2 cents, now I'll sit back and wait for Gaile to respond. -- Broodling 03:02, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, you are definataly wrong about Hard Mode. It was annouced to come out and then several months after it was supposed to come out they finally released it. During the time it was supposed to be out according to them and it actualy comming out they said it was taking so long to make sure all the PvE skills that came with it where balanced perfectly to help with Hard Mode, even though the skills ended up being even later and nerfed several times immediately following release, as well as they wanted to make sure Hard Mode was challenging but all can attest it's still nothing more than a joke of over buffed and easily exploited AI rather than a challenge. That aside, the little events like a Birthday Event one and the like aren't enough to keep players playing especially when they feel the game is going/has gone to hell. People come on here and the forums pointing out their dislike of certain changes and the rabid fanbois attack them and then others see where someone has posted against the same changes and was simply attacked for doing so; so they just give up and quite the game as well. Then you have a very few who try to put up with the fanbois in hope the game designers will wake up from their egos that the fanbois drive through the roof. A good example would be the GW:EN came out with it's armor sets and how pissed off the players where and according to Gail the offical word was, "Well the Dev Team is happy with it." and that nothing was going to be done about it. The actual players don't matter as long as the Dev team is happy and no matter how many come on here and the forums posting what they want ingame more than anything, hairstylist or an auctionhouse or simple shop system, from before the game released they are ignored for the few fanbois screaming "You guys are god and can no wrong! You rock!" I'm just curious how quickly Guild Wars 2 fails with them sending Guild Wars down in flames with nerfing useful skills to match horrible skills and with all the useless or next to useless skills in the game. Some of the many scorned customers/players may try Guild Wars 2 out at first but as soon as they see the same patterens that Guild Wars is currently in they will leave out early this time. Should be interesting to watch. ;) ~ Sabastian 08:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Wow! That was a venting post if ever I read one. House Of Furyan 09:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

wow sabastian u and ur boyfriend really seem to hate izzy for ruining the game with his terrible skill balances, no one care ure just like those 12 year olds who only enter the wiki after a skill update to randomly npa him for every nerf. Furyan I see nothing else than weapons from that contest (wow for dragonbonestaff) and that miniatures (hopefully an ooze) either and I'll still play gw as the only game I've played since june 2005, maybe just cuz i dont wanna lay out money on games but mostly cuz i like the community --Cursed Angel 11:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Cursed Angel, please don't personally attack other wiki members. I've seen you do it many times and you should really think about what you're typing more before you actually type it. And if I'm not mistaken you recently made a post complaining seriously about a nerf to mesmers, so let's try and work on practicing what we preach. As for the question: I believe Broodling got it right with the 3rd birthdays and design-a-weapons coming into play. Apart from that I can't think of anything else that has been announced, but something tells me that there'll be a special update at some point before GW2, but this is only speculation. InvdrFlame 14:28, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Personal attacks are an unacceptable way to respond to another user's rant. To Sabastian, you yourself are personally bordering on insults with your numerous "fanbois" which are obviously negatively directed at players you don't agree with. I keep trying to explain about something called "the whole picture" but people who are bent on ranting never get persuaded not to rant.

So any following comments should only respond to Furyan's question to Gaile, and not the rant from Sabastian - because no good will come of it and it will only degenerate into a flame war. -- ab.er.rant 15:15, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

"your numerous "fanbois" which are obviously negatively directed at players you don't agree with." Nope, their the ones when customers/players point out a flaw in the game or bad recent changes or even make new suggestions the fanbois are the ones that come in attacking anyone with a slightly negetive veiw to a recent change or attack someone for making a new suggestions saying, "Well ArenaNet is busy with GW2 and shouldn't bother with it." or "You fail at the game, go play something else!" They are the ones that after skills are badly nerfed and people come to the wikis and forums about it, some doing so for the first time because it bothered them enough to do so, the fanbois attack with "Shut the F*ck up and change your build!" or "Shut the F*ck up and play something else!". Personally I think these fanbois that tend to only praise ArenaNet and attack the majority customers/players are a lot of the issues as they drown out most of the people that come on to the wikis and forums with legitimate concerns, some do so with the only purpose of getting threads closed so they go unseen because they aren't filled with praise. That is what I call the "Fanbois" and there aren't that many of them, they are just very very vocal and on the forums and wikis constantly. Sadly they are listened to more than the majority of palyers are listened to because they constantly praise the dev team and suck up to them and people will listen to those brown nosing more than they will someone that points out negetive aspects. It leads to issues like the GW:EN armor and respones such as "Well the Dev Team is happy with it." rather than the Dev Team listening to the majority of players. ~ Sabastian 16:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

How can you say what the "majority" of players want, you only know what people on forums and people you know say and any other source you are using, and that is most definitely a minority of the people who actually play the game. Basing any assumptions on what the "majority" of players want is an exercise in futility and wholly inaccurate. --Lemming 16:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Personally I've only noticed how the vast majority of the fan community, especially on the forums seems to be more negative if anything and it is those people that are more vocal than most. Nature's law though I guess? People only bark when they have something to complain about. But like Lemmings said, if you think logically the majority of all players do not visit these fan forums and wikis at all and imho their voices and opinions are the most unheard of outside of the game. Also I'd like to point out that Anet does not cash in from "keeping players playing". The majority of the income(I imagine) is made from copies and merchandise sold. I'm not saying keeping the community active isn't important and profitable for them too but I hardly doubt the community is about to shut down anytime soon... If anybody it should be the game devs that see all the playerbase opinions more objectively than us fanbois and their decision is based on more than we as customers/players can see. - nian 17:36, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) In response to the original post, first I'd like to say that I do not believe that there is a massive exodus from Guild Wars. It's a natural process that, over time, people may take breaks, move to other games for a while, and so forth. Yet when you see the holiday events, and the number of districts that spring up, or when you check the numbers for the Xunlai Tournament House predictions or our community contests, you can clearly see that Guild Wars remains in the hearts of players, even those who may no longer play on a regular basis.

Do we have plans for more content or features for Guild Wars? Well, we do have a few surprises up our sleeves. However, please don't take that modest statement to create a vision that we're going to be able to offer some of the more over-the-top suggestions -- like a Sorrow's Furnace free update, new continent, new professions, free expansion pack, etc. Our focus is, and must be, Guild Wars 2. But we certainly do have some ideas for Guild Wars still.

Some players will continue to play Guild Wars, some new players will join the game (which is how we got to 5,000,000 this week :) ), and others will step away. We're confident in the future, and we're sure that most if not all of those who experienced Guild Wars will return for Guild Wars 2, along with a whole lot of new people, too! -- Gaile 02:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I am one of those players that is staying in GW1 for many reasons.

1. To catch up on things for a better GW2 Reward

2. Low End Computer

3. GW2 will likely be over populated so i'd rather stay where it will be calm(er) and quiet(er), and where theres less lag :P

4. Staying with the classics. 68.151.27.108 03:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

We will talk again after the beta XD . You will change your mind. Death Sligher 16:47, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm on the low-end computer wagon. I'd like to play GW2 but I don't think I'll be able to handle it. I don't have a choice in the matter.- Vanguard 16:51, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Lol yup Low End Computer or LEC for short ;). But! Hopefully my *Cough* Intel 945GM *Cough* Will work with it. Though IF it does....it will be worse then 10-40fps X_X 68.151.27.108 18:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) With apologies and with respect for the OP, who intended a helpful and productive discussion, I am going to archive this now. I simply cannot leave this discussion on the active pages any longer, for I don't intend to have these User Pages become a soapbox for attacks, insults, dev-bashing, untruthful assertions, or general negativity. And while the discussion has turned back to the topic at hand, the contents of some comments is utterly unacceptable to me. Naturally, those wishing to make an exposition containing personal opinions, issues, or concerns may do so on their own User Pages. I ask that they not do so on mine. Thank you for understanding. -- Gaile 18:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Visits

Just a note, based on earlier comments: When I go into the game for a player visit these days, I am generally going to head to Lion's Arch. It's the easiest place for players to congregate, has ties to so many players' hearts (including mine!), and has one of the best possible landscapes for conga lines. ;) The Frog approves, too, as it's his home town, and he likes the climate there very much.

So if you want to stop by, head to Lion's Arch International District #1. See you there! -- Gaile 19:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

how late, tonight??? Death Sligher 20:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry! I didn't mean I was heading into the game in any timeframe, I just meant that when I visit, I'm going to go to LA instead of the other outposts or towns. The exception is that I'll always go to a festival town, when we have an event going on. So for the Canthan New Year, naturally I was in Shing Jea Monastery. -- Gaile 20:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

If it weren't for the whisper bots and the boring landscape, I'd suggest you go to Great Temple of Balthazar. At least its a town that everyone can visit, not just those with prophecies. Sadie2k 04:51, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I would like to see Gailes famous conga line 2 :)☺☻♪♫-- Ninja Dragon 05:32, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I hope GW2 has larger towns as seriously...lol you have like 30 seconds to get to the international district before its full. Which is very anoying. And plus larger towns=longer congo lines! -DominatorMatrix- 05:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

That reminds me. I shall speak to Darrin, one of our excellent level designers and ask him about the possibilities of having map with the great conga pathing of Lion's Arch or Shing Jea Monastery. After all, I'm sure that conga's are a top priority with the level desig... Ok, well, I can ask anyway. *lol* -- Gaile 06:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Sparter

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=14316

What is ANET's stance on this? 12.219.130.136 11:05, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Because these transactions are backed by real-world currency, I expect they would be disallowed in Guild Wars. If it was virtual currency-to-virtual currency trade - e.g. WoW gold to GW gold - the story might be different, but I'd need to check the fine print... -- Sirius 11:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

It mentions the service is "designed to serve developers and publishers as well as players". I'm curious as to whatever they mean by that... - nian 12:39, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

As you know, sales of gold for real-world currency are strictly forbidden by the User Agreement and the Rules of Conduct. No matter what slogans or sales pitches a company might make, the fact remains that players are risking their accounts by buying or selling gold. -- Gaile 19:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

As far as I understand it's not for "real world currency" - it's for other game's virtual currency. Like you could swap WOW gold for GW Gold, or Lineage2 Adena, or whatever. — ( ɔ \ ʇ ) uɐɥʇıǝɹ 20:05, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

No, if you review their website, there are dollar signs all over the listings. And their bold-print slogans are "BUY: see offers from multiple sellers and buy from a GAMER; SELL: make some cash by selling to a GAMER." They also track the alleged real-world price of gold on the site. Sorry, this is not a trading site; this is a gold sales site. -- Gaile 20:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Their FAQ is quite clear on that as well. A cursory examination of the website shows that its for real money.. and thus a problem. - THARKUN 20:20, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...what about if there WAS a website that just traded currencies between games. They could conceivably make their money through transaction fees or advertising, and it wouldn't technically be a violation of the EULA - would that fly? — ( ɔ \ ʇ ) uɐɥʇıǝɹ 20:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

If the site or company made money through a transaction fee, they would be making a profit from the sales of in-game gold. Whether there profit is direct or indirect, there is real world currency involved, and that is a violation of the User Agreement. -- Gaile 20:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Not to nit-pick...ok...nevermind, ya it's a nitpick, but the company wouldn't be a user. And the users would neither be buying or selling their in-game currency for anything real-world. Just trading their currency with other player, for other, virtual, currency. — ( ɔ \ ʇ ) uɐɥʇıǝɹ 20:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps I can offer another way of explaining the situation: A company cannot legally profit from the sale of another company's trademarked and/or copyrighted materials. An external party profiting from the sale of someone else's property is disallowed on many levels. One needs licensing agreements, permissions, and overall legal approval. As an example, a candy company cannot release a Mickey Mouse Candy Bar without working out an agreement with Disney. No one "owns" the gold in the game except ArenaNet, as expressed in the User Agreement. So beyond the fact that ArenaNet disallows the sale of Guild Wars gold, and that ArenaNet is the sole owner of said gold, there are also IP (Intellectual Property) matters, or those of copyright and trademark, as well. -- Gaile 22:03, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Now, really, I'm not trying to be dense here, but I have taken some classes on copyright law and whatnot, so I know these basic concepts. However, the company, in this theoretical example, would not be producing, selling or buying said gold. So, they would not be violating copyright law. Neither would the users. The site would be providing a service: middle-manning transactions between players, and charging for that service. The users would not be selling the currency for RL money or goods - so it doesn't violate the EULA, nor are they profiting from it, thus not violating copyright laws. — ( ɔ \ ʇ ) uɐɥʇıǝɹ 00:24, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Either way, this opens a hole in the closed in-game economy, and so is therefore frowned upon by Anet (and a lot of others). Calor 00:28, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

The users are selling for real-world money. I invite you to visit the site and note the services offered. Or read the earlier comments where it is clearly revealed that this is a gold-selling site where the returns are real-world money. -- Gaile 00:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

QUOTE: "...the company, in this theoretical example,..."

He wasn't talking about the site. He was asking about if what he explained was allowed or not. For example, if he were to start a site with that concept, would it be illegal? -- Counciler 01:39, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I think Gaile addressed that earlier - they would indirectly be making a profit off the trading of gold. -- Sirius (talk) 01:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Ahh. My mistake. -- Counciler 01:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I think we've pretty much completed this discussion, and I'm not a fan of giving free advertisement to gold sellers on my talk page, so I shall dutifully archive this thread. :) -- Gaile 02:00, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Come to think of it, I'm not a fan of having paid advertising on my talk page, either. ;) -- Gaile 02:00, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Protecting PuGs

There are multiple ways Anet presses players to use PuGs, from not letting heroes use PvE skills and limiting the numbers of heroes to four to making skills Heroes/Henchies fail at avoiding much more common (namely maelstrom and meteor shower. Both of those aren't problems for competent players, but for heroes they can be deadly unless you immediately flag them away). My question is why? Just what are you protecting? There is nothing social about a PuG aside from the "hey," and "ping your build," and "your build fails," so I don't see the point in protecting that. So I ask you, a representative of ArenaNet, this: what, exactly is the reason for pressing PuGs? — Teh Uber Pwnzer 03:25, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

You gotta make friends somehow. --Lemming 03:59, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Dunno about you, but I don't plan on typing much while fighting unless somebody is epically failing. There are much better places for chit chat and friend making. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 05:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

PuGging is where I found my guild, without pugging I'd probably play alot less since it's boring to play solo h/h. Why do they need to protect PuGs? Because Guild Wars is an MMORPG not a game you'd play alone in your room like how we did playing Final Fantasy 7. GW has a much broader social connection than those of console games where you play alone. If that's what you're after, then you're better off playing console games than MMOs. No offense. Renin 07:00, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I would say Lemming and Renin said it very well. Most of us come into the game on our own, and we form friendships based on meeting people in the game. That is a good and valuable experience. I don't see the dev team "protecting" PuGs any more than I see us "pressing" them. I do see us supporting players playing in many ways, but perhaps giving a nod, a tiny boost, to those who join, utilize, understand, and appreciate the social aspects of an online and multiplayer game. -- Gaile 07:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

While I get all of your points since they're all (reasonably) valid, first of all, there are no social aspects of the game in all areas. Go to Gate of Fear for example and spam "LFG for this quest I have here". You would get a maximum of one response. Or to Hell's Precipice and spam "LFG mission". You would be talking to yourself. At least that's how it is in the european districts 90% of the times. Also, not everybody likes doing everything with other players. I personally like doing missions with other players (if I have time for PUGing), but I prefer using heroes and henches for the quests. We all have ways we like doing things. If ANet would give us better heroes (please don't get me wrong, I'm happy with them as they are, it's just some things they do... and can't do...), it would please those who don't want to PUG all the time. In the long run it would probably also please those who do want to PUG cause they wouldn't end up with a bunch of players that didn't want to be there in the first place and rush just to get it over with. — Galil 07:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

And while I understand your opinions, the designers do not intend to change the game into a single-player game that supports multiplayer gameplay. ;) -- Gaile 07:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Nor was I hoping they would. I couldn't care less if heroes can't use pve-only skills (I don't even use them), or that you can't play with them in UW/FoW/DoA. The only thing that really bugs me is how fast they get wiped as soon as a Meteor Shower or Maelstrom is cast, granted it's been better lately so it's indeed headed in the right direction. :P — Galil 07:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

There are many positives and negatives with the whole of Guild Wars, lets just hope the core of such things, like the AI, is worked out more for Guild Wars 2. I don't want to be seeing monks casting protection magic on minions out of battle for example, if I see another monk throw on Protective Spirit or some such on a minion suffering from its health degen (which should be flagged in the code somewhere, but doesn't seem to be) I'll be bitterly disappointed. As for Pugs, there's always good and bad sides to that, there are always going to be those who think they're better in some way, or that newer players are lesser. I wouldn't say Anet is protecting it. For the most part the game can be H/H'ed and find that easier at times than going with unpredictable PUGs, though the AI for H/H seems quite buggy for my liking. As for PVE skills, I find quite a few of them ruin the PVE side of the game. When one skill can decimate a boss in mere seconds I think that's way too much, and such like Ursan seems overdone. House Of Furyan 07:45, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Regarding maelstrom/MS, move them! you have flags and they follow you, in fact spread them out before they even get hit by it. Or flag them back and have a solo tank draw aggro and hence the ms/maelstrom too. There are many tactics to not getting hit by it in the first place, and ways to get out of it once you do. --Lemming 13:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

If anything, I'd like to see MORE push towards socialization in GW. It's fairly easy to set up a group of heros and henchies to run all but the most difficult missions/areas in the game, but trying to form a PUG generally takes a minimum of 30min and sometimes isn't even possible. And usually, the only people looking for PUGs are the ones that can't properly set up a group of heros/hencies (and thus, probably can't set themselves up, either). I like, in some ways, the instanced missioning and whatnot of GW - but a lot of the time, I just feel isolated. — ( ɔ \ ʇ ) uɐɥʇıǝɹ 15:45, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I will generally go for a PUG if the AI isn't up to the task - I will generally try to H/H but if I experience AI issues (not using skills properly, reacting too slow or ignoring flags, or in recent time the HM Henchies like Devona running away from the group out of my spell range and into aggro with one or more groups without use of a flag or being called) House Of Furyan 18:45, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I really think henching your way trough should be buffed a bit. You can surely say that there's so many skills that every pug is different. But personally I like the chaos of having everything going different because of wickedly strange AI. Almost every HM party you find will have an obsi tank and shit, there's so many skills for PvE, yet you're not using them because all the defense you need is an obsi tank, while the fun only comes once the obsidian tank leaves and my little Ranger gets the task to take on 7 Golems at once. The worst are the places where the enemy's just all hugg your tank no matter what, and they'll call it an "Elite" area, while all you do is spam a few nukes on a group that cannot seem to find the brainpower needed to swarm away from the tank. all in all Hero's and Hench are different, while PuG's are always the very exact same thing. So I beg of ArenaNet not to make this mistake again, and to destroy the MASSIVE INVULNERABLE INKILLABLE ALL ABSORBING SUPER AGGROING TANK THAT USES NUCLEAR WASTE AS A MEANS OF RESISTING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF SAVANNAH HEAT ELEMENTALISTS WHILE ACTUALLY BEING SEVERLY BURNED IF IT WAS ANYTHING LIKE REAL LIFE WHICH IT IS NOT BECAUSE TWELVE YEAR OLD WAR'S NEED A LIFE TOO Rhydeble 23:03, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

It remind me those days when you had, as a warrior, to accept to do nothing but carry a master gear for 2 hours in order to be accepted in a group wich was heading to sorrow furnace. Those who were fine whith this were designated as experienced and leet, while those who wanted to play their character were given the 'n' word. That's when I started to become interested in pvp. Yseron - 90.28.215.247 01:28, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) ... some hostility going on above I see... I'll be the first to admit I do not use pugs. I look first to guildies for help, then alliance mates, then a few solid friends who I've paired up with in DOA or such. If you don't have a guild that can help, find one. That's what they are there for. Otherwise, it'd be "Solo Wars" -elviondale (tahlk) 03:05, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe it's time for us to randomly help random pugs to increase PuG usage, i mean that's what I do sometimes. I sprinkle the help-love here and there. Helping others is fun (and admittedly sometimes utterly frustrating) so don't be selfish! :D Renin 05:30, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Spread the love, Renin, come on, spread it :D Also, that kind of attitude is very much a positive when it comes to PUGs, as players are more likely to learn from watching others play than the constant path of an AI. House Of Furyan 08:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

"C", "Space bar", "Firestorm", "Mind Burn", "Mind Burn", "Mind Burn"... wait a minute, your telling me Cynn taught me how to play incorrectly? -- Broodling 05:18, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

o.O I've noticed her do a bit more than just that... Cynn Skills That way of playing could be nice for you, but maybe mixing it up a bit may be nice :D House Of Furyan 21:46, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Mixing it up? I think I like the sound of this strange new concept. Don't worry, I have enough brains to bring better elites than that, I was just having some fun with your earlier comment. -- Broodling 01:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

To add my opinion to this matter, i find it quite strange that the designers don't allow the player of the game to make his own choice how he wants to play the game without being disadvantaged. While not servely disadvantaged, it still limits the way you want to play the game. A mutch better and mutch more positive fix for a problem like this would for example giving certain bonuses when playing with real players. Increased XP, Increased Loot ( which is already present ), etc. A positive aproach is mutch more friendly for the player than limiting him or her. SniperFox 12:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

2 cents: I have a grudge against PuG's because my expectation of skill has been raised (a flaw from playing for nearly 2 years) so far that most casual players are annoying or aweful. I wouldn't mind carrying 7 heroes around.- Vanguard 13:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

giving certain bonuses when playing with real players. The problem here is, even though you're actual giving bonuses for playing with people, some people would just see it as denying bonuses for NOT playing with people. YMMV on how valid a viewpoint that is, though. — ( ɔ \ ʇ ) uɐɥʇıǝɹ 15:32, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Even though this indeed could mean denying bonuses for not playing with humans, this doesn't bring the negative factor of "Limiting" one's experience. As it is now, you must do certain things with humans because of the way henchmen and heroes where limited. Removing this limit and fixing it with a positive factor of "bonus" would make it a mutch friendlier envoriment for the player. You are then free too choose whether you want to go with heroes or players, because it isn't limiting you. You may prefer human players because it gives you a bonus. This supports multiplayer and doesn't limit the player. SniperFox 11:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) ...I don't really mind that there are the 3 hero and pve skill limitations, as they just add to the challenge. What I don't like is where ANet have made an arbitrary decision that you must have other players, and by that I mean the lack of henches in Urgoz, Deep, DoA, Underworld and Fissure of Woe. It may be that these zones are impossible with a H&H team, but why shouldn't we be given the option to try? Sadie2k 12:23, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Saint David's Day

Any plans to do anything for the national day of Wales this saturday? Wishful thinking. (: --Spider osiris 17:21, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

probably not - unfortunately RT | Talk 18:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Since my Welsh heritage is one of which I am particularly proud -- even my name is Welsh in origin -- I'd love us to be able to do that. However, it's not possible in this timeframe. I'll pass along the suggestion that we look into more cultural holidays in the future, and in the meantime, I hope you'll join the Internal Cultural Reference Page to add some tidbits from that most wonderful of countries! -- Gaile 20:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, and for your interest (: and i've already posted there :D and Dydd Gwyl Dewi Hapus for saturday --83.217.170.161 21:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

EDIT: forgot to log in --Spider osiris 21:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

And to you, Dydd Gwyl Dewi Hapus! -- Gaile 07:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

:o

1st press F11 2nd put language on Burk! Burk! Burk! 3rd Play GW 4th Laugh yourself to death :) 5th answer the question how made that language^^ --Fox007 17:09, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

bork is rather famous, actually. - Y0_ich_halt 17:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Just found out though but i am still curious how made it^^ --Fox007 17:21, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Bork Bork Bork! is one of the language packs available for Firefox as well. Its based on the accent of the Swedish Muppet, if Im not mistaken.--Ryudo 17:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

yep.. it was the swedish chef.. He makes oneself proud for beeing swedish, no rly... ^Teo^ 18:27, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

One of my greatest regrets with GW1 is that there is no voice-acting for Bork. Yseron - 90.15.184.150 18:31, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Kuss <3 - nian 19:24, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I believe that language was developed by Mike O'Brien and Brett Vickers a long, long time ago. In fact, we had Bork! Bork! Bork! Before we had any other languages but English. It was a good way to test how other languages would fit into the interface, so it served more than just a fun purpose. And then we got so fond of it, we left it in the game. :) Major Bork! Fan here! -- Gaile 19:45, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Same here ^^ --Fox007 21:00, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Heee-law-a Geayle, ha-ow do yu doo-a ? Bork! Bork! Bork! Eee-sa-a ron - 90.27.2.211 23:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

play.com live

Hey Gaile, they finally made some noise about it. here, looks like it isn't limited to being just a game show though. --Lemming 19:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

They left that a bit late didnt they? Also was I the only one who noticed that it doesn't actually give any real info, just alot of PR speel. It doesnt even mention which software houses are supporting it. Honestly i think play.com has shot itself in the foot with its terrible marketing and advertising of this event. I think I'm just gonna wait to see how it plays out this year and if its any good, get tickets for next year, although im highly doubtful that its gonna be great. Spoke to several friends I have in several major software houses in Europe and none of them have heard of this event. Which really doesn't bode well. -- Salome 01:18, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm gonna skip it too, partly cause I don't live in the UK, partly cause I can't stand their webpage's horrible layout, partly cause they don't seem to have a program, but mainly since I haven't heard of it at all before now, two weeks before it's announced to be. An event that doesn't have solid marketing usually doesn't end up too good. <offtopic> This reminded me of play-symphony though, which I'm definitely attending the next time they come here. I see Guild Wars has also been added to its program. Congratulations to ANet for getting Guild Wars on the list of the greatest games of all times. :D </offtopic> — Galil 01:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Although on further inspection their line up includes: Ubisoft, THQ, Apple, Sierra Entertainment, SEGA, Capcom, Konami, Codemasters, Warner Bros, Microsoft, Activision, Oxygen Interactive, EA, Square-Enix, Midway, the Blu-ray Committee, Sony and Dare to be Digital. So it might be worth a visit just on the back of Konami and Sqaure being there (Suikoden/Parasite Eve/Vandal Hearts/Valkyrie profile Lenneth FTW!). However the games they are touting look terrible! Ghostbusters and Lego Indiana Jones/Batman = ewwwwwwwwwwwww............ IMHO EDIT: oh and just a heads up,ticket sales are probably gonna increase alot now as their was a story about the show in the SUN yesterday. (I still think its a national embarrassment that the SUN is the most read paper in the UK *caresses ones Guardian lovingly*, however it will definitely get the news to the unwashed masses [and when i'm talking about SUN readers i mean that literally]);) -- Salome 01:48, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the updates, guys. I think I would be tempted to attend, too, if I were in that part of the world. Oh, and Galil, the Play Concerts are great -- I hope you get to attend one someday. Without prejudice, the overture or suite that Jeremy Soule created from the Guild Wars music is phenomenal! (I hope someday he releases it on his DirectSong site. -- Gaile 19:09, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

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