User talk:Gaile Gray/Archive Chit Chat and Miscellaneous/Jan - Sep 1 2009

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4 year anniversary

Hija Gaile, Tomorrow, 7th of januar we have our 4th year anniversary. Presents are welkom....a pve styled trim on the cape especially (good suggestion though)...ha ha...would be nice. Still looking for a nice date to celebrate... Gaile you are invited to come to celebrate with us just like last year...keep an eye on the mailman for an invitation. Didis 19:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, is it four years for LLL already? How time flies! Congratulations to everyone, and I hope to see you soon. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:30, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Didis -- I never heard more about this. Did the anniversary celebration already take place? -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 05:56, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

The Halloween Frog

Gaile, I love your frogs, I know I know, one of a kind ! LOL But I was thinking, and maybe hoping, that the designer is reading this. But The Halloween Frog should have a wand ! and as small as it would be, and since it's a very rare frog, Why not put a small bit of glitter, when he moves it around. I think this would make the Mad Gaile Halloween frog truly Original ! Just a slight / itsy bitsy tiny / design improvement ! (Lady Xiena) Tina 07:39, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Monthly Tonics

Is there anything we can possibly do about the horrible, dreadful, AWFUL choices for monthly tonics? I mean, we're already getting a new tonic every month, so i'm not asking for developer resources or anything. I'd just like unspeakable things to the person in charge of choosing tonics. Spider, golem, rift warden, ok, he started out alright, but then... is there something we can do about it? I mean, the latest is an asura. I get it, you have to promote the races playable in gw2, etc, (prob why we got the ugly norn too). But seriously, can't you give players what they want? I'm sure I can't possibly be alone in thinking most of the tonics are clear and total misses. SO many cool stuff could be done with tonics, and yet, month after month, it is a show of mediocrity. sigh. Thanks for your time :( 20:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Although I know a lot of players who hate the Asura, the tonic seems to be pretty popular. Meh, at least it's not a giant floating head. :\ (although that particular tonic raised the price of absinthe, which was gud) Vili User talk:Vili 20:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
It's not that i find asuran and norns repulsive. I think they make bad tonics. Consider some ideas: margonite sorcerer, essence of dragon, a djinn... I could go on, but everyone will have a different wish list. That's ok. But i mean, pick COOL stuff, wierd, different. We meet tons of asurans, and we will be able to make asuran chars on GW2. For now, let us have fun with something innovative for cryin' out loud. 20:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
You can't be an Asuran now, well, now you can. I bet that was on some people's wishlist, it's actually impossible to please everyone. Misery 20:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but are they even remotely trying to please most of us? I don't think so. I don't think a single instant of the time of this person who chooses tonics is spent finding out what people want. They don't CARE. that's what bothers me. They don't give a crap who wants what. :/
Hi. I don't want to seem to brush off your concerns because I do understand what you're saying, and I think you've put some thoughtful consideration into the matter. But this subject is so far out of my range, I feel bad that it's posted here. I can assure you that the team does care, very much, about what player think and care about. I wonder if you've considered posting on Linsey's talk page? I believe that as the designer for Guild Wars, she would be interested in your thoughts. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 21:09, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Sigh, that's ok. What I need to remember is that I'm not mediocre, average. Therefore, my opinion is usually off the curve. I.e - i'm sure there will be plenty of ppl who will like this. I won't. Such is my fate in life I guess. Thanks though. 22:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Awww, you're not suggesting that people who like the tonic are somehow mediocre or average, are you? I mean, it's a subjective matter, like what colour dye you use, what armour set you choose, or what hairstyle you select. Some will love it, some won't, but I don't think that their opinion of the tonic would categorize them outright, eh? ;) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 23:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
does this mean we'll get a charr tonic in near future? that'd be awesome imo. --Cursed Angel y so srs? 23:56, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
I still want great destroyer, glint or abaddon' head tonic. --BTR 00:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
I want the "random" tonic. A tonic that picks a random skin on each use: you could be an asuran, a norn, a big floating head etc and so on. Probably technically out of reach of the program in place but would be awesome. 04:31, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
I want any tonic that will just drop for me. :P For such a cool thing, even the 'normal' ones don't drop that often. Maybe when they do drop, they could drop in packs of like 5 or 10? It's not like it would hurt the economy, plus you could get more uses for your 'valuable' key. Just a thought.-- 16:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Random tonic would be awesome, but not as an everlasting. That might as well be all of them combined into one item...Ashes Of Doom Talk 22:09, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

new winters day items

hey gail i was wondering if the new wintersday items will be added to the Secret Lair of the Snowmen chest it would be nice to be able to get the new tonics and stones even it the are a realy rare drop User:seth warmonger

Hi there. I have not heard of plans for this. You certainly could add it as a suggestion, though! -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:44, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
haha buga sori gaile i still havent broken my habbit of running things past you befor making a post in the suggestion area old habbits die hard User:seth warmonger
I don't mind that at all. :) Frankly, I think it's a pretty sweet idea, but I would agree that it would be best to have those special items be really rare drops. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 19:02, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Could you also add the suggestion of ALL rare minis being introduced as rare Z Chest drops also? With the dedication/people leaving/hoarding/banned etc, that a slow introduction of a few would at least keep prices from becoming even more extortionate than they already are.

As I said earlier, your suggestions are welcome on the Suggestions page. Feel free to post this there, although it has been posted in the past so you should review the posts and archives before you do. Thanks. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I can admit it.

Well, I can admit it. Didn't think it would happen really. And it seems over-emotional to actually say it, or even to post it up here, yet then again I'm personally not one who likes to do things small.

I actually enjoy your talks you have with people, you're a pretty likable person. Just don't see this "Hey, I like you" as some attempt to go "Oh, he likes me, is this in an bad way?". 'Like' is probably not correct word in any event really, 'Respect' might be closer yet saying "I respect someone" is a personal choice that is a lot more complex for me to say and actually mean it - I'm a semi jaded-unemotional person really - so "Like" seems more fitting.

I actually miss you when you were in your old job, I don't considering Regina is doing half of the job you were/ even are now: this is not an attack on her its just that, from my point of view at least that role just seemed to flow a hell of a lot better with you than it does her. In a lot of my posts on your old page, as it were we butted heads more than anything else, though the memory those times is more for me than I believe you, which is understandable considering who you are in all this situation. This isn't to say you're not doing a good job where you are, the opposite actually.  :) You give off more of a sense of... of... well, you come across as one of the guys, in a way, there doesn't seem to be the "I'm an Arenanet employee talking to the community" sense with you that I get with Regina especially.

Even though I considered you a massive pain when I first started out here nothing could be further from the truth now as I came in at a weird time. You are missed even though you're not really gone... if that makes sense.

Expressing, clearly, isn't one of my strong suits. I hope my point has been expressed in a "non-weird"-"non-I'm attacking Regina" way. lol 21:02, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't sweat it, I think it's fair to say Gaile gives quite a few people the warm fuzzies. ;) -- Sirius (talk) 12:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Why do you think Linsey is so popular? Gaile's the only one who even rivals her at Anet. Regnina does her job for the most part, but doesn't add the personal touch. "This has been reported to the developers" gets tiring after a while. Linsey answers honestly, for the most part promptly, and isn't afraid to say I don't know. That gets topics like these. Gaile and Linsey seem to be the only ones who can take and make a joke and...<sarcasm> who is this mythic Izzy person anyways? Honestly, I've never seen him.</sarcasm> In conclusion, hats off to Gaile and Linsey. We've lost something without you. Kelvin Greyheart 22:15, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
I hope A-Net knows how incredibly lucky they - and the GW community - are to have employees as dedicated and passionate about their jobs, the game and the community as Gaile and Linsey. I definitely agree they are both exceptional - especially in their dealings with players on the wiki, I never thought otherwise. The only thing about Linsey being on GW Live team that makes me sad is that she isn't working on GW2. Both of you are a great benefit to GW. 10:08, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

So sayeth Sir Buttkiss and his merry band of suckuppers.  :P Ok, yeah I have to admit though, they're right. But I'll cut Regina and the others some slack, since she had to follow in the footsteps of another in the waning months of GW1. Good job to all and good luck with your next endeavours, whatever they may be.-- 23:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Regina has bee given enough slack by the community already. Practically all she does is ignore everything, or give puppeted PR responses. I would bet money that the same question could be asked on Gaile's page as on hers, and that of the two, Gaile would respond faster, if Regina even deigns to grace us with her commentary, and that Gaile's response will be better. Same with Linsey. Kelvin Greyheart 13:15, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Take that!

ZrankGaile.jpg best wishes Felix Omni 05:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

x.x--Unendingfear talk 13:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

You missed!--Unendingfear talk 13:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Gaile, your lucky he's a bad shot XD — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 16:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Good thing you missed, other wise the only person that listens to us would have been speared.. Demonic Cobra 19:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
We still have Linsey. 08:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Dang that was a narrow miss, right between the feet! I gotta figure out how to borrow Froggie's "Aura of Amphibian Protection." :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 03:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Support Page

Your support page is the best drama on the wiki and I thoroughly enjoy reading it but, I wish users would post outcomes. In a way it's like being a loyal viewer of a tv show where you're only able to see the first half of each episode. I know that the support page isnt there for entertainment purposes but, it is very entertaining... 02:49, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, now. This page isn't a Support Page, it's my own little personal user page! ;) But if you mean the Support Issues page itself, I agree. It would be good to see outcomes, because in the vast majority of cases (well, the ones related to legitimate requests and issues) I think we'll see a successful outcome and a happy camper. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 03:23, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Ya, it is pretty funny going to that page. It seems most acounts charged with RMT are Chinese, though.--Unendingfear talk 13:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Update Idea's...

My mom always said I should say please.. before asking anything So with that said,

Could the people of GW's please have some new Banner art for the guilds? Maybe some art that's different for each game area... Also maybe more Guild Hall choices like adding some from Eye to the North.. & Please would it be possible to get holiday stuff, in the guild halls like maybe a tree in every hall at winterdays? or pumpkins?

Just tossing this out for your / everyones thoughts

So since it's a toss out, here's a good one.. Would it ever be possible to have Gwen play her flute in the Monument area. Even if it's made a quest or something to gain her a flute..? She's shown in the hero monument even playing one, we hear her in pre-playing.. so why not in the monument...? She's just standing there, looking bored out of her mind !!!

Ok, I'm off my Dinosaur .. Cheers !! Xiena 17:56, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I like your ideas. :) I remember mentioning holiday decor a long time ago, but if you think of the number of GHs, it would take a lot of work to implement those! Anyway, the very best place to put ideas like this on the Suggestions Page and we'll see what happens. Thanks. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 18:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Gaile, I can't get this posted in the suggestions area, My computer won't cough up a edit templet ... I tried, The system for contacting really needs to be rethought. Glad you liked the idea's. I gave it my best shot ! See you on Chinese new year ! Xiena 09:01, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Gaile

For being a contributing part to this wiki and the GW community. It's sad that we don't see as much participation from other devs/regina in responding to player suggestions as from you. Thanks again --adrin User Adrin ecto sig.png 04:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I miss you Gaile! I got a mini abyssal for my ele's 3rd birthday yesterday, it made me think of you. <3--*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 08:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey Gaile i know this isn't much of a talk or support thing or whatever but i'll give it a try %D:

today i was just thinknig about how all my guild members split up even though the guild was really great, but was too much pressure, so yeah then i thoguht it was so great how you can find such nice and friendly people on Guild wars even though most of them are across in the USA, and it's people like you who made Guild wars the great place it is, with all the partying and everything, and even thoguh i wasnt here for much of your time as an Anet employee just wanna say thanks for all the hard work on guild wars ;D hope i can see you at the canthan new year event or even in guild wars 2 - character: Elk trail ( you won't need to know my character but just thouh i would post it XD)

Question about a user

Hey Gailio, was wondering if you knew who eazz was? Crispie 03:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes I do. Why do you ask? -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 03:37, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Just curious who it is! Crispie 03:43, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, Crispie, I imagine if he or she wanted a name out there, s/he wouldn't use a handle. So I'm not being a meanie, but I probably shouldn't say. You understand, right? :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Well...I guess I can respect that :P By the way Gaile, TGH is working on a new website in the coming months, hope you drop by when that happens! Crispie 13:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

New mask?

Have a look at this discusion [1], I really think we need a new festival mask in Cantha...MegalodonLunar Fortunes? 16:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC) When old masks are made, why can't you guys make this one again!? Its so beautiful... and besides, acourding to this, you can even make it for the new year festival. How about that?^-^Kyahaha 11:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


A light hearted question for you. During a chat with someone about drop rates on Lunar Fortunes and the lucky aura/possession/etc (you know the random stuff nerds ask each other about even though they know none of the parties involved have any idea about how it all works) a question formed in my mind: How do people like Gaile and Linsey handle these burning questions? Have you ever seen something in Guild Wars and let curiousity get the better of you? Pop your nose in the door and ask the team in charge how it actually works? Not after any secrets, of course. Just wondering if it's a perk of the job that you get to know what the Lucky Aura actually does (or doesn't) do. Mr J 13:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I have asked a few times, yes, and I have intentionally not asked at other times. There are things that really intrigue me, and I just have to know how it works. But other things I can let play out without knowing the inner workings. And some things the devs tell me about so I can communicate them, formerly as CRM, and now as Support Liaison. For instance, if we feel there may be confusion or concern about changes to the game, a dev may tell me how something works so that I can relay that to the teams and answer any questions they may have. (My writing up the XTH Page was a direct result of my asking a lot of questions and then making an FAQ to help players, and help Support answer player questions.)
So the answer is yes. And no. ;) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 03:47, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Gaile!

Thank you for joining [GOD] and their allies for some fun during Canthan New Year! My guildies had a blast playing Wack-a-wurm with you! --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 20:34, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I missed you, but at least I got to see your character afk... which is a rare sight site in and of it own ;). --Shadowphoenix User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png 22:21, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, Indeed it was a Blast to Wack-a-wurm with you all, hope you all know I was letting you all Win. haha. Ct Pound :)~
I had a lot of fun at the event, too. I spent far, far too many hours trying to get my Drunkard title and whomping on those wurms, but heck, new year's comes but once a year. It was great to see you. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 00:46, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

A Mini Me Minipet

Hi gaile. I was in UW yesterday and i was thinking if it was possible to have like a minipet of yourself. Like have a small minipet resembling the character how he looked at the time you got it, or maybe even update able.

I personally would think it would be killer to have mini versions of a friend with u at all times. or if you have a big ego urself;)

PS: the thought of a floating abbadon head with hands (kinda like rayman) crossed my mind too.

This is not a suggestion, just want to know what you and other people think about this.(Ixillius 13:30, 4 February 2009 (UTC))

I want a mini Abbadon too! I had to kill him for my armor, and I was really surprised what he looked like. Kinda reminded me of [2]someone. Hehehe... Oh, ya, a mini you would be cool too, but a mini Abbadon would be better :)--Unendingfear User Unendingfear Crane.jpg 13:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
I see what you mean, does look alike :P. i always wondered why there are no god minipets yet. You'd expect a balt or grenth pet above something like a water djinn (Ixillius 14:32, 4 February 2009 (UTC))
Hi. The "mini me" miniature has been given as a suggestion by many players since the first miniatures came out. The best place to put this idea is on the suggestions pages (although I know it has been posted there already) or, if you wish, join the prediction page, which is still active and turned into sort of a prediction and suggestion page combined. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 19:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh my...i would love a mini Nian...nice little kitten...don't you think? Didis 19:45, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
What about a nice little baby charr? ;) (Ixillius 00:47, 5 February 2009 (UTC)) PS: i wasnt suggesting it i was wondering if it was possible.

Mini ox?

Do you have a mini celestial ox? I don't see it on your page.--Unendingfear User Unendingfear Crane.jpg 03:47, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't doubt it, she probably just hasn't gotten around to adding it yet, but I could be wrong. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 03:53, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Thats why there's over 9000 people lined up to give her one =) Biz 16:32, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I guess Gaile doesn't have one then. :P My 'lil brother didn't get one either. But I did. --Unendingfear User Unendingfear Crane.jpg
Gaile does have a miniature ox ;-) I'm 200% sure of that =) It's just not on her page yet --User Tribina base.png (Tribina / talk) 20:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I do have a mini ox. My player character is jealous, but hey, it's a pleasure to have the little guy and I am sure that "my girls" can learn to share this cutie. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 21:29, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Ok, just wondering. I got one too, and very quickly at that. :P--Unendingfear User Unendingfear Crane.jpg 02:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

New Year 2010

hey Gaile, wondering bout 2010... same list or gw2?... or adding eotn stuff?--Fall of th Living 20:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Ummm... I don't know what you are asking, sorry. Do you mean New Year 2010, as in January 1st? Or do you mean Canthan New Year, which coincides with the Lunar New Year (February 14, 2010)? You know what? I have a feeling that I can't answer either one. :D -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 21:38, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Hard to decipher netspeak sometimes, isn't it?-- User Vanguard VanguardLogo.pnganguard 17:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, I tried to decipher it. What I think the msg says is: "Will Guild Wars 2 be released in 2010? or there will be same stuff for Guild Wars 1? Or maybe adding New Stuff to Eye of the North?" But I wonder why he/she asked about 2010 when we just started 2009. --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 18:03, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey, you guys know I can't talk about Guild Wars 2! There have been some announcements about cool stuff for Guild Wars, though, as I'm sure you're aware. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Can you talk about said Guild Wars cool stuff? — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 23:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure you read the Dev Updates, right? Check the website regarding Update about Updates for more information. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 00:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, of course there's that, but perhaps you have a few juicy details to throw our way? ~.^ — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 00:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
*pfffft* Jon, you so know better than that! :p -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 00:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
your right, I do XD — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 00:53, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Now now Gaile, I didn't ask about Guild Wars 2, I just translated the secret code for you :P. Been so busy with my new job lately that I didn't have time to think about it. Although a new update about it from Anet's part will be appreciated, but apparently, it's a wish that have to wait for now :P. --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 08:16, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
No, no, I didn't suggest that anyone was asking for info about Guild Wars 2. Not at all.
*eyes Jon*
What I was suggesting was that if someone did, I wouldn't be able to answer. There, I hope that cleared up everything. :D -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 09:20, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
HEY! I saw that! Yeah, the irony is that I'm always the one to shut down people when they ask about Guild Wars 2..... But hey, this isn't Guild Wars 2 we are dealing with is it? Blast. I'm not going to be able to talk my way outa this one am I? *waves hands in air, walks away*
I'll leave the prying to others, it's just not my thing. XD Keep us posted if anything we can know turns up Gaile =D — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 16:36, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

(diff) (hist) . . User talk:Gaile Gray‎; 16:36 . . (+666) . . Jon Lupen (Talk | contribs) (→New Year 2010: ) Gaile, I fear I have unleashed some unspeakable wiki-evil upon your page =O — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 16:47, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Gaile wat i ment was for the cathan new year item list will it be the same as 09 or will guild wars 2 be out so there will be a toataly differnt list?--Fall of th Living 23:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, I don't know if Guild Wars 2 will be out. As a player, I would think the event would be the same next year no matter whether GW2 is out or not. This is because in my mind, anyway, Canthan New Year is a tradition of Guild Wars and we have not been told if or how it would carry over to Guild Wars 2. That decision is up to the designers, and that is something I do not know. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 00:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Ha! It wouldn't surprise me if Cantha's new harsher regime shut down new year celebrations completely. I wouldn't expect to see CNY in GW2 at first anyway, as it sounds like GW2 will only include areas seen in the Prophecies and EotN games (until they release the other continents). I may be wrong, but that was the impression I got from the way they closed off Cantha and Elona in the movement of the world article. Ashes Of Doom Talk 18:55, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I hope not but it wouldn't surprise me if Arenanet did that, they've established so much of a world and to only return to part of it for the first installament would suck. My opinion. 19:48, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
From The Movement of the World: As a result, Cantha became extremely isolationist. Once Orr rose from the ocean, those tendencies were reinforced by an inability to safely sail the western seas. Any ships venturing near the Strait of Malchor are sunk by the black ships, then dredged from the ocean floor by the Orrian dragon and commandeered into service. Thus, completely cut off from Kryta, Cantha vanished entirely. Travelers, refugees, and even Xunlai agents residing within Tyrian [sic] heard nothing more from Cantha. and ...crossing the Crystal Desert is currently impossible due to Palawa's stranglehold over the southern reaches and the desert dragon's presence in the northern desert. Doesn't look promising... =( Tyria is really big though, so I don't blame them for wanting to work on one continent at a time. Ashes Of Doom Talk 21:10, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I've read it. Yes, Tyria is big. sadly I was hoping for a massive Tyria map on the first release including all three original landmass [sighs]. But, I doubt it. 21:21, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I am hoping sooo much for a little checkbox that says that my GW2 Tyrian Character was born in Cantha, or at least has distant Canthan origins...I soo love the lore of that place, and my main's from there too. So if she was to have an heir, I'd make her as Canthan as possible... 20:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
hopfully they create like a fernatic groop of cathans that escaped and are partying in some town--Fall of th Living 06:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I'd settle for not displaying origins, but I agree, that would be neat. 08:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


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to quote:
"As a general rule of thumb, we don't mind if you do things like this to make your own playing experience more fun. Some people really like to mod, and we recognize that this can often be a valuable learning tool. When you're doing it, though, keep in mind that we ask that you don't use our content to mod other games. Please do not attempt to extract anything from your GW.dat with the intent to use it in a mod for another game or project. Also keep in mind that we can't support any changes you make.In other words, if you try to make some changes and your game crashes, don't contact support because there really isn't anything they will be able to do for you. Make sure you have your disks handy to reinstall.In case anyone was concerned about this reply, keep in mind that alterations that people make to their own .dat files will not affect the play experience of others. All of that important data is stored server side, so any changes that would be able to be made are purely cosmetic. For instance, if someone re-textures their sword to look like a gigantic pickle, they will be the only one to see this change. You won't start seeing people wielding pickle swords running around in random arena any time soon.Also keep in mind that we are always interested to see what stuff you guys come up with. If you do something exceptionally cool that you feel would really benefit the community as a whole, don't be afraid to let us know about it." --Image:UserEmilyDiehlStar.gif Emily Diehl (talk)
"To all modders: It's important to note that the parameters concerning the use of third-party programs do still apply. We cannot condone the use of such programs, and we cannot support the accounts of those who may be negatively impacted in using such programs. That's called the If it eats your hard drive and blows up your refrigerator, don't call us policy.Honestly, though, as previously stated, it is unlikely that we would actively pursue or action those who use such programs in a positive manner, that is, those whose only interest is creating benign mods of our games. Keep in mind that occasionally people get creative and might bring up the use of a harmless program to attempt to mask other harmful activities. We see that with other situations, such as where they say "But I was only using an alternative OS, why was I blocked?" and we discover they are using major bot programs.If you feel that this creates a "mixed message," then I guess we should discuss that concern. I can understand where the strict "Don't do that" is clearer than "We can't say you can do that, but we won't take action if you do choose to do it." There are some cases where it's not black and white. One example that comes to mind is the use of emulators to play Guild Wars. We develop only for the PC, but others play on other systems and that's totally ok. However, if they develop difficulties, our Support Team is not available to help them resolve those issues. So we don't prohibit the alternative, we simply decline to support it.What I want to say above all about this matter is that if you're going to mod, have fun, but do stick with the benign and positive uses of the programs and create mods that impact the game only in ways that are fun and harmless. If there's more information to share, I will do so as soon as it becomes available to me." -- Gaile
Hope this helps Ashes Of Doom Talk 21:55, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Will you get banned for using it, no. Will Support be able to help you if something negative happens while you are using it, no. 22:05, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Super GOD title ZEUS

I have acheived 30 maxed titles and I'm on my way to 35 maxed titles could NCSOFT consider a super god title named Zeus ?

Wrong page and you should ask an Arenanet employee (that's not Gaile). 04:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I lolled. Maybe start another charater and get that God walking among mere mortals? + Zeus isn't around in this game. -- Cobra User Demonic Cobra Cobra icon.png 07:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
He you cant max max a max title wenn its max its maxed^^, and you can get 35 yes but this is just that you can pick out 30 you did like to max. Max those and your max title is maxed thats it. Good luck with over maxing your max title but wenn max is max you can just top maxing ok? 12:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
How about adding a rank that says: "I helped Kormir and all I got was this lousy title!" or something like that. 20:41, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Still waiting for that "I'm a Newbie!" title. -- 20:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't think we need a another rank in the KoaBD track just because it makes it even harder to max. I have 25 maxed title's at the moment and those who aren't maxxed yet are those months to grind / i have to much money stuff. Fox007 User:Fox007 21:05, 16 February 2009

(UTC) I vote we get a title that says "How can you Kill that which has no Life" She of the Comfey Chair 13:52, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Though that would be awsome ^^ Fox007 User:Fox007 14:20, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Birthday Invite

Gail on saturday feb 21 we are having our 4th birthday party

thread is on the GWO Forums

please feel free to attend we of course would love to have you again.

4 years seems like such a short time and at the same time it seems that we have been together for ever :)

Thank you for your time

Grond The Meateater GWO Deli Manager and GL

ps on a second note i have posted a new idea on my talk page your thoughts would be welcome

Rockweaver 09:04, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for attending our after-party gaile, it was nice to talk to you again! Dutch Sunshine 21:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Reward Skins in PvE

hello again gaile i was wondering there are a few skins like the Shield of the Dead which is one of my favorit skins in the game but it is not available in pve. will they ever be available 2 pve'ers? it a very old skin back from when sorrow's furnace first came out--shadow 03:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Tanzit's Defender --Dunyas User Dunyas sig.png 16:50, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Unmoddable. Kelvin Greyheart 18:41, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
True, but it has the same skin and is usable by PvE characters. They asked when the skin would be available to PvE character. --Dunyas User Dunyas sig.png 19:01, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I would say that the green may be the opportunity you are seeking. I don't know that a Sorrow's Furnace skin would be offered in a different form in the future, but of course anything is possible. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 00:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

ID Kit?

I know this has nothing to do with support but I figured you might have an idea. I posted this on the original page, but I'm trying to figure out exactly what the icon for the superior ID kit symbolizes. Do you or anyone else have an idea? I'm stumped. Thanks! --adrin User Adrin ecto sig.png 13:15, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

It looks like a bunch of measuring instruments and a magnifying glass lying on a piece of paper to me. 11:28, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I agree -- that's what it looks like to me, too. For instance, I can see what looks like a surveyor's compass, a folding magnifying glass, and measuring calipers on a beige backpack thingie. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:14, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Rotscale and his Rewards

Me and some friends beat rotscale today i nNm and Hm hes ben an obsession of mine as of late the lrod i cant find, the fact that he wiped out my best heros in 10 secodns Nm and left me in a locked battle for 10 min before he oblterated me, we had fun and a few of us got his bow but im wondering a few things, since hes actualy tougher thne abbadon, the lich, and shiro in terms of difficulty, why isint there a title or HoM statue for killing him, i mean i beat them all and i honestly think that in NM hes tougher then hm shiro, so will there ever be a title or monument for beating rotscale.--Lord randy taylor 23:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

that's stupid. --Cursed Angel Q.Q 23:43, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
how is it stupid, thqat the strongest monster in game dosent come with a title or monument--Lord randy taylor 23:46, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
first of all, it isn't the strongest monster in the game. second, you get those monuments because you beat the entire campaign, not just some endboss. getting a title or a monument for beating rotscale is lame.
People: This is my talk page and I welcome all friendly people to post here. If you feel obliged to say something negatively, if you want to share your opinion, that's fine, but please state it as an opinion. Better still, consider the courtesy and respect you'd like to be shown, and show it in return. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 23:56, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Plus other Hall of Monument statues such as those for betaing Urgoz or Kanaxai involve a whole dungeon too. As the IP said, the Hall fo Monument staues for killing Shiro, The Lich, ect, are for finishign the campaign, not just killing said boss. There are NO Hall of Monument statues JUST for killing a single boss alone. Let me put it this way, killing Rotscale alone does not compare to any other Hall of Monument statues in terms of feats accomplished. It's not stupid, it just doesn't stand up to the others. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 23:59, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
whne i beat the campaigns i was dissapointed i expected bigger meaner monsters rotscale was the only one that exceeded my expectations--Lord randy taylor 00:01, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Hi Randy. I agree that Rotscale can give a really darn good challenge! I'm not sure that I would agree he's harder than the end bosses, but you know what? Some of what we experience is related to the build(s) in use. In the early days -- maybe before release, it's been that long -- I took on Rotty in a short period of time, and had other times when I gave up in disgust. (There are a couple of missions I feel the same way about. :) ) So while I adore Rotscale -- he's about my fave of all the monsters in the game -- I personally think it's good to restrict the statues to the end bosses, because, well, the statue is about the successful completion of the game, and the end boss only represents that fact. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 00:02, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Or the respective elite areas XD — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 00:04, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Ya got that right! :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 00:07, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
i used the same builds for them all and as for urgoz it was easier then the factiosn camapign to me--Lord randy taylor 00:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Then that's your problem. Rotscale isn't just some normal monster you can take on with Sabway or whatever. You kinda have to prepare specifically against him unless you want to wipe a bunch of times or use cons. Vili User talk:Vili 03:44, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
dont kock my build and i beat him with my build but had to bring 7 friends and took quite abit of planing to take him, my build is not the problem that monster is tougher to me then end bosses to me--Lord randy taylor 14:07, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey Randy! Some information that might be helpful when you fight Rotscale in the future can be found here. There are a few tips and builds if that helps :). I think that difficulty level for each boss often has to do with tons of different things, for instance, I find Argo very hard to defeat on my necro, but he is cake on my Mesmer. It really has to do with builds, experience, strategy, profession, and tons of other things. Some bosses are more difficult to defeat to some while they are simple to others. (I personally find Rotscale a challenge, but not more so than HM Shiro) --Shadowphoenix User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png 15:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Apparently, it escapes your notice there isn't a specific build that allows you to clear every area, except maybe cryway. Just because your build works in many situations, doesn't mean there aren't any other builds better at situations your build cannot handle.Pika Fan 15:41, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
1. i already beat him. 2. that guide is outdated and worthless.also its nto a question of beating him, its a question of why hes not got a better reward other thne the bow nad as for my builld it works almost everywere there are 2 places it needs changed and i plan for that so no mroe questioning my build --Lord randy taylor 15:48, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
A long time ago, before more greens existed, Rotscale's bow was *the* item to have as a Ranger. Kind of like Drago's Flatbow. It was a unique, rare, and special item which set you apart and meant you were one of the elite players - either because you were good enough to kill Rotscale (this is back before heroes, pve skills, cons, blah blah), or that you were rich enough to buy this expensive item. So the reward used to be quite worthy of the challenge. Vili User talk:Vili 15:55, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps you are not bright enough to catch my drift. Let me make this explicitly clear. I am saying rotscale is too easy to have more rewards than the bow. Pika Fan 16:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
come on hes harder then urgoz(woss), shiro(sissy boy), lich(o la la), abbadon(pansy), and the great destroyer(weak) theese were easy to me they came easy and they get rewards o mena rotscale is t ome and many others the hardest monster in the game, and u did make your self clear but i belive your wrong hes tougher and more difficult to take then the entire last mission of prophecies or nightfallboth of wich i did on the first time, same with the great destroyer--Lord randy taylor 16:12, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Because you aren't as good as you think you are, period. Pika Fan 09:34, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) The end bosses of every campaign have NO reward what-so-ever for beating JUST the boss. The ONE reward you get ONCE (outside of the books that is, which require you to finish the majority of the campaign again) after killing an end of game boss, is a reward for (at the very least) the time and effort you have invested in finishing the enitre campaign (unless you get runs in prophecies). Also, the rewards for finishing The Deep and Urgoz's Warren are for finishing an entire elite area. The Fissure of Woe, The Underworld, The Deep and Urgoz's Warren (to name a few) are all collectively harder for the entire run, and take longer than farming Rotscale alone. Each run has a respective reward in proportion to it's challange, time, and effort required to finish. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 16:59, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

look all im saying is Rotscale neds to have soemthign mroe thne just an item maybe a quest(not the slay rotscale thing that was removed) but soemthign cool make ihm a little more important hes a great challange and i feel a little more needs on him a quest, a small dungeon be it now or HW2 i think rotscale is tough enough and important enough to have it.--Lord randy taylor 17:05, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Nothing in GW is based around a single foe, bar a mission for killing one boss, and another mission based on killing a single boss, but involves much more killing than just Abbaddon. Killing the Lich onvolves practicaly an entire mission before hand. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 17:10, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
as i have stated a dozen times now i know but some form of mission involving rotscale and lore behind him would be nice just alittle more hes a very rough enemy and should have a little mmore story then sepculation also shiro is a mission to kill ONE boss--Lord randy taylor 17:12, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Only if you managed to get to Imperial Sanctum skipping 10 missions (and most primary quests). :P --NIN37 19:01, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
i mean the missio nitself all you have to do is kill shiro the others are more complicated--Lord randy taylor 19:23, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but you have to beat the entire rest of the game to GET to that mission, AND, the reward for finishing the mission is not for the mission it's self, it's for you finishign the campaign. Killing Shiro is you putting the cap on Factions, not based souly just around you killing shiro and nothing else. Exspanding on Rotscale is something you should take up with Linsey, as Guild Wars 1 exspanion, maintenance, changes and such is her end. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 20:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Getting to Rotscale isn't more difficult than getting to Shiro in the Imperial Sanctum, if you're good enough to take the dragon on. It's just a little more work. 08:03, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Kill him in Hard Mode! There's a title, even two and two HoM statues connected to them as a reward! You won't get either of them without killing Rotscale in HM, if you want that title you can think of Rotscale as of the Ultimate Boss Monster of Tyria and kill him as the last one and he'll grant you that title :)--YawgYawg 05:25, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
you do relize i stated i HAVE ALREADY ebaten him in NM and HM and thayt all im sayign is he needs mroe lroe and maybe a quest.--Lord randy taylor 03:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
& mebbeh a lil' spellin' lessun... User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 21:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I noticed...

You don't have a Dryad Bow in your collection Gaile, that surprized me. If I find a good offer on one with a lower Req. I might part with mine. They're really the most unique bow skin.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 00:18, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

It is a nice skin, most Design-a-Weapon contest winners are. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 00:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Oh my gosh, you're right, and I love that bow! I'm going to check all my girls to see if I have one tucked away on the wrong mule, but you know, I may just not have one at all. Thanks for pointing that out! -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 01:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

4th Year Mini Pets

Awwww, no 4th Year Mini Guesses this year? --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 23:21, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh... Gasp!
I don't know what you mean, MM, the page is there -- it's been up since Wintersday! ;)
Ok, ok, thanks for the reminder. :D I always love reading people's thoughts and predictions and I'll be adding mine soon. The page is good to go now! -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 07:05, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
YAY! Let's see, which NPC should get the honor of being green this year. --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 07:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
I am voting one of the Dwarves, like Jalis. He's a sentimental fave, but there are a lot of other worthy candidates for sure. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 07:16, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Jalis is a good suggestion, but I was thinking something from the original Guild Wars, like the Doppelganger or Glint (I know , I know. I already suggested Glint last year, but her model is too cool to be left out :P). --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 07:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Where is the page? I cant find it XD |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 08:07, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Here and it's also on Gaile's menu on your right under Special Pages. --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 08:09, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Danke ^^ |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 08:09, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Bitten --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 08:17, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Im still hoping for a Skree Griffon :) Ct Pound

Totally! (You didn't post on our page yet! Go on, share your thoughts! :) ) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 01:45, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for annoying you

I hope this doesn't creep you out, but is this a Moa bird on the table? =)
Also, I'd be very grateful if you could point me in the right direction. I was wanting to suggest pets ('cept for Wolves, for obvious reasons) be treated like armor and weapon skins in PvP. Say, with 50 points, you can buy a Black Widow (preferably you can choose it's evolution, too). So if you could tell me who to bug with this idea, I'd be grateful =)
Thanx for reading --> A F K When Needed 21:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC) Oh, and I'm also curious about the frog =)

I just can't stay away =)
Don't take this as me implying you don't know about this, just curious, why don't you disable post processing effects and just play like normal while slowly racking up the points?
And yeah, that's the one weakness of the Zaishen Chest. Tonics would have been more popular imo, and I'll get abuse for this... had the Phantasmal come last. For me, that thing was just perfection, so I found it hard not to compare the other Tonics to it. Although the Abyssal is okay, kind of a cheap Phantasmal :P --> A F K When Needed 22:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Yes, the Moa you see on my desk is paper art designed (and then made for me) by Katy Hargrove, one of my favourite of the Guild Wars artists (and about the nicest person you ever met!). I love that little guy. :)
The wiki is being revamped for suggestions, but you could add that now. Or, you could hold off until next month and then add your idea when the redesign is finalized. (BTW, I like your idea a lot.)
It's a fair question, if I understand that you're asking "Why not get Drunkard while playing through the game?" The answer is, I'm getting the title on a non-player character -- my Gaile Gray character who is and I hope to keep at Level 7. If I play, she'll level. So it's a lot of guild hall drinkin' for her. ;)
After all this time, and a bunch of fine tonics, I still love the Phantasm best of all. (A couple are close, but he's just it for me!) I am saving keys, but the chances are still so small, I don't know that I'll see myself at a Rift Warden any time soon. I watch for sales, too, so maybe I'll get lucky with that.
Thanks for dropping a note. It's nice to hear from you, and it reminds me I need to write another blog entry. There are new "tails" to tell. ;) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 22:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
@Gaile: I think that would make your character a non-played character, as Gaile Gray != NPC XD — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 23:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
*gasp!* You're right! Ok, I will try to remember that. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 23:04, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
So... about the Frogs... :-) --> A F K When Needed 23:11, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and I'm glad to hear you like my idea =)
I probably will, I'm newly over from Wikia, so didn't know about the changes, I'll wait 'till they're done =) --> A F K When Needed 23:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and three posts from the same person in a row shows he / she is sad, I know.
Buuuuttt, if I may enquire, why the GH? Plenty of people wouldn't mind hanging out with you in Kamadan or whatever is your location of preference. --> A F K When Needed 23:17, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
User yasmin parvaneh frog.jpg
How about those frogs? Gaile, I like the little frog from Rain Forest cafe, Cha Cha, my hubby bought a stuffed one of him for me last time we were in Vegas. He's sitting on my sofa. When we go back this summer I should get one for you.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 23:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Great image, Yasmin. I asked Froggie, and he remembers you guys meeting. :) I have become a major frog fan over the last few years; there's just something so cute, interesting, and funny about them, all at once. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Oy, excuse me. The Frog suggested a modest edit, based on what he called "the new Amphibian Pride movement," which is apparently designed to instill appropriate levels of self esteem in the young tadpoles: "There's just something so cute resoundingly attractive, interesting utterly fascinating, and funny amazingly wise and intelligent about them, all at once."
*cough* -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
...I bet you were the one who came up with Adam and Eve. =](Terra Xin 04:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC))
Not to be a snitch but I think that Frog may have a drinking problem: ClickPoki#3 My Talk Page :o 03:32, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Oh man, Poki, I told him to try to keep his "consumable beverage transactions" (as he calls them) on the down low. Now look -- caught in the act! ;) (Great screenshot, btw. I shall use it to razz him mercilessly now. :D )
Terra Xin -- No, I didn't come up with that one, but you can be sure I find that bit of storytelling delicious. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
This has got to be one of the funniest GW screenshots out there. -- Sirius (talk) 05:18, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I agree. But I have to wonder: Did Froggie's quest for the Drunkard title explain the fact that my plats seemed to be going away much faster than I was spending them? And is his going for Level 2 going to see similar buying sprees out of my coffers? Uh huh, thought so! ;) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 03:25, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
i'm reporting mr. frog here to for not using trade chat in his advertisement for ale. lol j/k xD --Uchiha Lena 21:49, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh whoa, you're right, he totally broke the rules! Well, hold off on reporting today; he says he and the TPN are hard at work on helping the Xunlai tabulate points. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 22:11, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Gaile Won't Be Able To WAIT To Tell The Editors To Edit This

Well Gaile This is a thought and I think you outa suggest this to arenanet so here it is. I really love the monthly tonics thing, it wouldnt be the same without every month a new surprise from the chest so here is a suggestion. OF MAY 2009 MONTHLY....SUMMONING STONES! 11:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC) summoning stones = fail -- Salome User salome sig2.png 13:29, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
From a personal outlook, that'd be kinda fun....I'd just hoard them, but still. :P --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 13:33, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Wait, you mean we'd all run around as giant Summoning Stones? That sounds hilarious! :D -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 05:21, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
LOL! HAHAH no but i may have figured out april fools trick hehe. 11:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

The Rabbit Conspiracy

I won’t go into detail yet but it is widely known Rabbits have some link to nearly everything going to pot. If the signs are to be believed, Ware the Rabbits! They do cometh! Frozenwind 00:16, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

The annual Consumption of the Chocolate Rabbit celebration is nigh upon us. You can take your pre-emptive revenge then. -- WarBlade 00:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I intend to do a lot of pre-emptive-ing come that time. :D -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 02:29, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Mmmm... chocolate... Pkohler01 05:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Mmmm... rabbits... --Arduinna talk 17:57, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Mmmm... sweet movie references made into a trap for non suspecting gw players... Biz 18:33, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Mmmm... wabbits --Super Igor User Super Igor siggy.jpg flame my shove sin bar! 18:46, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
omgomgomg we get TH points for eggs, *and* get to sell all the stuff farmed for gold? SWEET! -- Alaris_sig Alaris 19:01, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, too bad I'll have maxed that title then :D They should go to Wisdom, not TH! --Lady Rhonwyn 19:26, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, I don't need the sweets, so just farming them gives me double bonus. Too bad unluck is still behind... -- Alaris_sig Alaris 19:51, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
whaT rabbits i see no rabbits ove looked high low and no rabbits--Lord randy taylor 23:56, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I think we're all looking forward to these treats. I know I sure am! If tradition holds, wouldn't they be magically appearing next weekend? Ahh, that reminds me of one of my very favourite editions of The Scribe, about this very subject. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 03:29, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Link broken, Gaile... has The Scribe been purged from the GW site? I can't seem to find it anywhere! :( -- User Elveh sig.png Elv 09:59, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Fixed your link Gaile. --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 10:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

O.O Best idea ever!!!

Make april's tonic a Shoop Da Whoop tonic!!! My catz want it o.O 200px213px--Unendingfear User Unendingfear Crane.jpg 02:39, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


could you thank jeff grubb for me, i feel honoured <3 InfestedHydralisk 22:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Brilliant film, Inf. I love the way you've... umm... I can't say anything specific here, but it's very well done. ;) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 23:07, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
made it up, directed, filmed, put it together, uploaded :p InfestedHydralisk 17:12, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
The question is, how did you get GW2 content? Whups, now I've said too much! ;) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 17:31, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
What? All I saw was dancing >.>--Unendingfear User Unendingfear Crane.jpg 17:37, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
shhhh dont tell :o InfestedHydralisk 17:47, 2 April 2009 (UTC) i did some sneaky stuff ;)
Yes, Unendingfear, you have to play along. ;) ;) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 17:50, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Didn't you know that Rick Astley will be voicing the lead part for Guild Wars 2, Rollious Maximus, as he travels over Tyria using his voice of Divine Aura to bring peace to the land whilst rolling the forces of evil? O.O How could you not know that? I, myself, thought that was awesome common knowledge.
This user would also like to direct people to the common knowledge that Rick Astley while also be the main hero in Guild Wars 2.1: Never Gonna Give You Up Cantha 18:01, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Bahahaha X) Frozenwind 18:50, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
he probably meant gw2 dances :D InfestedHydralisk 19:12, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
I have it from a good source, that Clive Clarke will be choreographer for Guild Wars 2 dances. Arenanet employee Gaile Gray commented to reporters last week that Clive "back flipped with joy" at the appointment to his position within the Guild Wars 2 staff. ^_^ 19:16, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Tis true, tis true. "I have seldom seen Clive more excited about an upcoming project," said his agent, Ivana Dahnze. "He's definitely looking forward to this major step forward in his career." -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:59, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
With the merging of the talents of both Arenanet and "Rolls-a-lot Productions", lead by Rick Astley, Guild Wars 2 is shaping up to be the hottest title of all time, swiftly toppling The Previous Number One of All Time from the top spot. In celebration, in association with "Rolls-a-lot Productions", 000's "I'll-Be-Here-All-Night! Be-Sure-To-Tip-Your-Waitress" Limited and Arenanet we all gladly share with the community the latest in the first series of official trailers for Guild Wars 2 and exclusive preview of Guild Wars 2.1: Never Gonna Give You Up Cantha. Enjoy, and goodnight. 05:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I am lightyears away from that horrid song....(Terra Xin 16:12, 3 April 2009 (UTC))

Just checking up on you

How are you, Gaile? -- WoBUser Wings of Blood sig icon.png (contribs) 00:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey WoB, I'm good, thanks. It's been a lovely day here today, following a regular "5 Plagues of Seattle" sort of week. We had sun, wind, rain, hail, and, yes, snow on April 1st. I'd guess that Dwayna is the diety of weather, but we've had a bit of Grenth passing by, too. I'd say those gods and goddesses are having waaaay too much fun around here lately. :)
In a Guild Wars sense, I'm still chugging along -- literally! ;) -- on my Drunkard title. I'm excited about the April update that's coming -- as a player and as a team member, I think it's going to be a hoot.
How have you been doing? -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 03:09, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
is there any certain date when it will come up? InfestedHydralisk 13:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
cause im kinda stuffed with all the armor sets, shield sets and whatever D: InfestedHydralisk 13:56, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm doing good, April 1st was my b-day... I visit Seattle on the 10th to see my realitives over there so getting to know the weather is good. ;D.... Ten days without California =[. In Guild Wars, I've just started to get back into the "click"....I'm saving up for elite exotic and mask of mo-zing...I'm going to dye them white. You can saw I'm daring and want to be unique ;D. -- WoBUser Wings of Blood sig icon.png (contribs) 17:49, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Snow as late as April 1st. Wow. Though I have to say I saw it in the forecast for here as well (Richmond/Vancouver) but it never actually turned up. Thankfully the weather finally seems to be turning to sort-of spring in the northwest. -- Sirius (talk) 05:03, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Melandru: What the heck?

Is it me, or does Melandru look surprisingly like an amphibian in the image on this page? Compared with her usual wispy, waif-y artwork (which I adore) that shot shows an... interesting version of the goddess, eh? -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 03:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I think that's the avatar that shows up when you /kneel by the Melandru shrine in ToA. You'd think they'd actually use a more "wispy and waif-y" model for it, wouldn't you? o_O --KOKUOU 03:36, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that's the Melandru's Watcher, which looks like an overgrown nature ritual spirit. It makes sense, but the "true" Melandru would have looked better there, I think.--Pyron Sy 05:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't think they have a model for the true Melandru though, which is a shame if they don't. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 05:25, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Overgrown Nature Ritual Spirit? I always thought her avatar was a Druid --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 06:06, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Which looks like an overgrown nature ritual spirit. Duh.Pika Fan 06:09, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't know. A certain friend of mine says "This is obviously an homage to a most superior species," but I'm not jumping to any conclusions. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 06:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Otherwise you will reveal some Top Secret Guild Wars 2 Info? :P --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 06:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
NO she just wants us to click on melandru in that page and then watch the artwork of it and you she this: And that is a spoiler of how the silvary will look in GuildWars2 ^^ Death Slighertalk: Death Sligher 09:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh foo, you're right, Pyron Sy. I only looked at the smaller version; it is a Spirit, isn't it? Rats, Froggie was so excited, too! ;) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 18:31, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
So you really meaned the spirit and not the artwork of Melandru, a well anyway that artwork would be great for the silvary anyway^^. But I guess the silvary will look more artworkstyl just as the asura. Now a day in every game they make creatures like artwork instead of realistic creatures. (example: Wow,diablo3,C&C Red Alert3,City of Heroes,Spore etc.) Hope Guildwars2 will be something more realistic and not comic-way style. I really hate that development(not that I dont play them), but it gives me a feeling of mm we can't make realistic things. Takes to much work, lets make it comic style:/. Sorry for those last lines its maybe offtopic. But I needed to say it. Death Slighertalk: Death Sligher 14:24, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Well Gaile, if you thought Melandru's avatar was odd... what about Lyssa's?! She has the worst avatar of all: instead of her pretty "duality goddess" appareance, she's just a pink blob. Not even of the ecto kind, either. :( That spirit / avatar does vaguely look like an amphibian though... >.> -- User Elveh sig.png Elv 18:52, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

that melandru guardian's head looks like the Predator.--adrin User Adrin ecto sig.png 08:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


you are invited to the KISS Maragon Event plz can you come its on Saturday and Sunday. --Nick123 10:02, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Nick. Thanks for the invitation. I did stop by, but I think I was a little late. Perhaps you'll let me know next year and I'll hope to see you then. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 19:07, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
kk thanks for turning up it was in a lot of place and loads of different times to it was quite hard to keep up with the event --Nick123 09:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Froggie got a new Home?

I noticed a frog(very simular to your froggie) in the new menagerie trailer, did he take a break or something, or is it a friend of him? Dutch Sunshine 22:46, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

speaking of the zaishen menagerie, the long time wish of rangers all across Tyria for a pet stable has finally come true! thnx ANET! thnx gaile i know you didnt stop bugging them for a pet stable ;)
Oddly enough when I saw the Menagerie the first thing I thought was "Thank you, Gaile!", not sure if she's the driving force but it's definately something I know she was putting out to the developers from us. And I saw a Froggie ^_^ 12:21, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
I loooove the plans for the Menagerie! Back those years ago when we spoke of it, I wasn't sure if it would be possible, from a content and programming viewpoint, and it's just great to know the team could bring it to fruition. Froggie and the TPN are very excited, too, as they feel that anything in support of animals is an excellent addition to the world. Yes, Froggie consented to be captured on film for the preview, but no, he's not a member of the Menagerie. However, he will be there in spirit. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 19:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Well poo! If Froggie isn't going to be there will the kitty cat stay there? I noticed that right away, and was like Awwwwww! a kitty! : ) I will be so disappointed if they take the kitty cat away! If it's chosen to be left there I promise to feed and water it and love and pet it daily! --BabyJUser BabyJ Monkey.jpg 13:03, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Ranger is probably my least favorite class, I always thought pets were too troublesome. But with this, I have an excuse to buy a slot for a ranger and really explore the whole world again. Thanks so much! 17:17, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh, whoa, I had to spend 10 minutes calming down Froggie after that "troublesome" comment. Careful, 71, he has a mean backkick. :)
But hey, any excuse to start the game again is a very good thing. And just think, you'll get to enjoy Professor Yakkington in Pre-Searing, as well! -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 22:22, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Personally, I know that after I'm done looking over the new things, I'm going to take my main character (an Assassin) and capture ALL the animals for the menagerie myself (probably won't level them much, but definitely find them in the wild and take to a new home ^^) It's just my collector's spirit kicking in :P — Poki#3 My Talk Page :o 02:45, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Was Wondering...

Is that you in the Recurring Insecurity icon? (High resolution icons) --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 21:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Sweet thought, MM, but no, I'd say not. If I got to pick which Icon I was, I'd want to be Web of Disruption. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 22:18, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Ah well, it seems I don't remember your face very well than. =P --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 06:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Party Thyme

The character name reminded me of this. Enjoy, I know I did. :) — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 04:45, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I did like that. ;) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:52, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Great job

Monitoring and removing potentially harmful videos

I was just looking on youtube for new videos about guildwars when I found this:[3] and want to say good job since I didnt thought that anet was removing them since I never saw it. Keep doing this^^ Death Slighertalk: Death Sligher 20:25, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

DS, could you kindly translate that for me? Taking a guess, does it say that an offensive video was removed at the request of NCsoft? -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:27, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
This video is no longer available because of a copyright claim by NCSoft. DarkNecrid 20:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. We do not mind fan movies, of course, but there must have been something about that one that we did not want associated with our game. Either the content was objectionable or there was a breach of the Terms of Use in some fashion. I don't know the specifics, but yes, we will take action against disallowed use on YouTube. (And on eBay,, and other places where people misuse our copyright materials). -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:33, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes it was about getting Guildwars accounts for free. But there are alwese so much videos who arent banned and I was excited to see that this one was removed for a time. I just hadnt seen before that those video's were removed. BTW there are still alot of video who aren't. But the most are about getting a free account if you email them your email and password. And then they say nono its not a joke to steal your account. And then I alwese need to Laugh^^. Death Slighertalk: Death Sligher 20:45, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I am ignorant...

Friends list question

Don't kill me but I gotta ask; Gaile do you still play GW? :D And also, you think it's fine as if I add you to friends on my wiki page? Sentry007 User Sentry007 sig.png 23:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I am in the game almost every game day. I have a lot of characters I'm still working on, at various parts of the game, and I am also in the game as sort of low-key listener, a "finger on the pulse," for potential support issues. My main account is one that I don't use as a playing account, but you're more than welcome to add me to your list. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 05:47, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
"I am in the game almost every game" Sheesh Gaile, the TPN evolved or something? =] Frozenwind 20:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Yikes, try to post up a quick reply, look what happens: Typos! Ok, fixed! -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:53, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you or the response, also gotta ask...are you still in ZoS? :D Cause I'm in Power Traders. :D Thanks again! Sentry007 User Sentry007 sig.png 23:14, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Zaishen Menagerie is pretty, don't you think?

Someone had to say it. :) I like the "whirlwind tour of Tyria" thing it has going on... pretty good screenshot material too:

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Now just to add my creatures (though they yet be few) to the menagerie... I noticed you were on a while yourself Gaile – wonder if that's why... :D -- Sirius (talk) 07:57, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Menagerie is super-gasp-it's-so-cool marvelous!!
Oh, and you're right, I have been on a lot lately. I've been enjoying the new content. Ok, the truth is, I have been on enjoying the new content 'and playing Dragon Nest. ;) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 02:41, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

That areas awesome better then a Melandru themed elite mission, i still am cursed with chick talk about how cute the mini animals are(the baby oens i mean)--Lord randy taylor 07:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

You be on to something there LRT melundru themed elite mission? Hmmm Gaile why not suggest this and see where you get, in the mean time the other 2 gods. 11:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Gold Selling Question/ Suggestion

Ok I know that Arena Net has a problem with the buying of real world currency with in game gold and I have a suggestion on fixing the problem and elimating the sellers. Have they ever thought about putting currency packs in the in game store? Like how there is the Xunlai Storage Chest upgrades and the skill packs and extra character slots to name a few what about doing gold/platinum packs? Helps possiblly eliminate that problem! P.S. It was nice to meet you and Froggie and I hope you enjoy your Raptor!!

For the record, if that were to happen, it would put me off playing Guild Wars for good. Storage is one thing, there is no inherent advantage to it. Letting people use real world money to buy gold would upset the balance as it is now, where people who play a lot get more money. Also, it would destroy the economy unless the price was incredibly high, and if that was to happen, people would still buy gold from other sources. Ashes Of Doom Talk 11:44, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
The suggestion that ArenaNet/NCsoft sell Guild Wars gold has been broached before. But you see, that's really not something we want to do. In-game items are just that -- items of value in the game -- and we don't want to get in the business of selling things like that. Not gold or other "currencies" like ectos or Z-keys.
Some folks may not see the difference between selling a hair style pack and selling gold, but there truly is one. And to the best of my knowledge, we aren't heading down the path towards selling gold or other currency. (And thanks again, Rappy is doing great with the rest of the family! :) ) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:29, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Something that comes to mind when I think of this is Second Life. Second Life's currency became a "real" currency and players of that game exchange real world money for Lindee's, the Second Life currency.
This has lead to much success in the context of Second Life but, the key difference between GW and Second Life is that players are free to create things in Second Life that they are free to sell in Second Life. Things like cars, airplanes, boats, housing, pre-fabbed housing components, clothes, pets, you name it.
Since we aren't empowered to build things in GW, that isnt the focus of the product afterall, this would likely only lead to unreal inflation and general devaluing of gold. Given the account restrictions on gold (how much you can have on a toon, how much you can have in storage), this would only lead to other items being used as currency. It's bad enough with Ecto but, there's plenty of other items out there (armbraces for example) that would likely becoming completely unattainable.
Still, it's perhaps good to keep this idea circulating every once in a while. Discussion tends to lead to innovation - something that Linsey and the Live Team proved with the April update. And at the very least, it makes for interesting discussion imho. Pkohler01 23:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

You sneaky Promiss Keeper...:D

You *points at Miss Gaile Gray*.. honorable Lady...kept your promiss!!! No tonic but a whole Gender changing hairbarber all-in-one Stylist! What a team effort!!! Thank you!!! ;-) This is in reference to Gaile Gray's promiss to look into the possibility for a gender changing tonic. She certainly "looked-into-it!!!--Silverleaf Special:Contributions/SilverleafDon't assume, Know! 12:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

This update was real great Gaile. Thanks to you an all the production team who made this rather large update happen. --Burning Freebies 16:42, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I wish I would send a real hug through email or mail for all of you guys/gals. Thank You ^^ --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 16:44, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I am really excited, too, about the new features, fun things to do, games, major celebration, and everything! It's a great update and the Live Team, QA, and everyone else working on it did an amazing job. My hat is off to all of them! :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:20, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering...

After the Menagerie update came out and I bring all my animals in and unlock all of them, but then I notice where are all the bunnies? I see all the other animals in guild wars but no bunnies. Also I was wondering about your thoughts on the idea of a charmible rabbit pet? Me and all of my friends like the idea of having a killer bunny as a pet but part of that might be from watching Monty Python and the Holy Grail to many times. User:Tog

Well, the reason the bunny is not there is because it's not charmable. As far as making it happen, those requests have been made long ago, but I don't know why they were not implemented. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 18:42, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
We have some creatures that are "ambient" creatures, and are not tameable. For instance, you'll see birds, butterflies, chickens, fish, and of course the bunny in Pre-Searing. Not all creatures are intended to be pets -- that is by design. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 21:38, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I think at first Tog was asking why aren't animals e.g. bunnies in the Menagerie to add to the decor, not to be charmed. "I think". --> A F K When Needed 11:32, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Ahh, I see. So asking about ambient creatures in the Menagerie, I understand. I'm not sure, the team might have wanted to keep it simple, so that any creature present in the Menagerie was a creature with whom you could party. Also, the emptiness makes you want to add more, eh? ;) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 18:27, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
If you want to see the Menagerie in flames, add the rabbits. Frozenwind 18:39, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry for lack of clarity (I randomly suck at sentences with what I'm trying to convey. :\ ) I was talking decor with the rabbits with why they weren't in the Menagerie when all the other decor animals i could think of were. The other part was Just asking what you would think of the idea in general of a rabbit pet that follows you around and helps you kill things I wasn't making a request for that if I did I would of put that in the Guild Wars 2 suggestions by now. Soon after I posted original message I then found out the rabbit in mysterious summoning stones but didn't bother to edit post. Sorry for lack of clarity again. User:Tog


Moving and other references in game

i cant reach you ingame so i decided this would be best are all the quotes and names copied form somethign else like based on it like a quote form a henchmen did the makers copy it fomr soemthgin or think of it and not notice?--Lord randy taylor 07:58, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

What? Please rephrase and use punctuation, it's hard to understand your question. Thanks. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 18:41, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
He's asking whether everything in the game is a reference or not. To answer your question, randy, many lines and names in Guild Wars are references to other things, but certainly not the majority of them. 18:45, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
We make a lot of references -- to books, movies, various cultures -- and all in good fun. For example, "Drakes on a Plane" refers to a certain movie. The white rabbit in GW:EN is borrowed (with love) from another classic film. There are famous quotes from books, as well, and we've included cultural references from time to time, too. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 21:35, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Makeover after 4 years :).

Finally we are able to restyle our character, I was so excited that I bought a makeover pack right away because I was tired of some of my characters looks. And my first and main character I ever made finally got her makeover (she is 4 years old), and I love it. Check it out :D.

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I already used all 5 makeover credits on my characters because I was tired of playing with them and wanted something new. Also I bought a pack because I wanted to see if you had to logout and login to see the changes, but no sir, you change on the spot wich is nice. And Core professions have alot of choice, unlike the factions and nightfall professions. That's also a reason why I only changed the looks of core professions. Anyway tell the highly trained monkeys who worked on this update that they did an AWESOME job. Totally sweet update. Qaletaqa 23:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to mention I really love the daily quests because now my main character has something to do again besides farming or beeing benched for a long time. I was bored, now i'm not. Ooh and Nicholas the Traveler's gifts are nice. Qaletaqa 23:58, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Why did you call the designers monkeys? Is it THAT hard to be nice to Anet? 00:13, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I think it's just an idiom. YouTube, for example, uses the phrase "highly trained monkeys" when referring to the people working on a page that has an error.-- Shew 00:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I am beeing nice lol, It's just a little bit of fun I put in my text. And Shew is correct and that is also where I got it from. If I would not have been nice, I think "and I love it", "Awesome" and "Totally sweet update" wouldn't be in there, instead it would be something like this : "Can you tell them to do a better job over there" or "I quit Guild Wars, the update ruined the game". Also I think there is a bit of Darwinism inside of me, I don't know, i'm Agnostic.Qaletaqa 00:29, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Looking good, Qaletaqa! Oh, and no offense on the "trained monkeys." :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 18:25, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, it's hard to assume good faith when insulting has become a second nature to people on this website. My apologies, I did not realize you're one of the few exceptions. 13:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Np, it's indeed true what you say, I even insult people now and then but I would never insult Anet's employees because they made this game and I love it, no matter what I think about an update (whether it's good or bad), they are the ones that made it possible for us to play this game, if they didn't make the game we wouldn't be playing it and be able to post on this wiki :). Qaletaqa 21:23, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Well said. I feel the same way. 07:31, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


You anywhere in the region of Kryta at the moment, its getting to be a "warm one" Frozenwind 00:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

?--Lord randy taylor 03:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, I was heading towards my usual ID #1 Dragon Nest spot in a few. What did you have in mind? :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:10, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Doh! Had a blade issue come up, you still around anywhere? Edit: catch you tommorow maybe zzzzzzzzFrozenwind 04:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Black Beats of Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh

Hey Gaile. I was checking out your miniature collection (nice collection) and your miniatures you still hope to get. I noticed the Black Beats of Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh is in both lists (the minis you got and the minis you hope to get). Not really important at all, I just thought I'd tell you since I have nothing better to do at the moment. // HeavenMonkey User HeavenMonkey signature.png 14:04, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

  • coff* stalker *coff* wait, why am I here again? *exits* MrPaladin 14:05, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, I just noticed I spelled beast wrong. Ah well ^^ // HeavenMonkey User HeavenMonkey signature.png 21:31, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing that out. I removed the BBofA from my wish list because I did get one from a good friend. In fact, I'm playing with that mini at this moment, he's super cute. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 21:51, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


Hi Gaile :D I believe you left me a message earlier.. I'm here now. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 23:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, Wyn. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 00:11, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Get well soon Gaile!!

Get well soon Gaile!! --Silverleaf Special:Contributions/SilverleafDon't assume, Know! 23:33, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Silverleaf. I know it's just a cold, but it's been a long while since I was sick and I'm just done with the whole drippy nose, watering eyes, coughing, sneezing thing. :-/ -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 00:10, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
As long as it isn't swine flu. My flat mate has a cold and hes convinced hes got swine flu. I've told him hes being a fanny, but he wont listen. sigh. Anyhoo, get well soon my love. -- Salome User salome sig2.png 00:12, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
That makes me think of Zoolander, who said, "*cah* *cah* I think I have the Black Lung."
Every time somebody gets a bug, he or she can claim Swine Flu, E Coli, Ptomaine Poisoning, or the negative effects of Global Warming. I figure mine's just a cold.
*looks around nervously* -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 00:26, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't worry, normal flu kills a lot more people then the swine or bird flues do ^^ — Poki#3 My Talk Page :o 00:30, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Such a cheerful thought, Poki! :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 00:46, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Quick! Take some Nyquil and have a nice long nap! Drago 00:53, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Swine Flu = Failure. Gaile, you'll be safe. ^^ -- WoBUser Wings of Blood sig icon 2.png (contribs) 01:41, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Feel better, Gaile. I went through like the nastiest flu/cold/nastythingy of my life just a month ago, and I really hope I don't get another one of those, like ever... First time I had to take any antibiotics in like the last 10 years at least. If you don't feel like you're getting any better on day 3, see a doctor if you can, and save yourself some misery. *casts Empathic Removal.jpg on Gaile* User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 10:15, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Flu is not cool ^^ Curse you, d*mn flu!!! Get well soon! |Cyan LightUser-Cyan Light sig-icon.jpgLive!| 10:52, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry about that Gaile, I wish you the best ^^ — Poki#3 My Talk Page :o 11:31, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Mend Condition.jpg "Tribina Mutant is using Mend Condition on Gaile Gray!" --User Tribina base.png (Tribina / talk) 15:50, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
swine flu has been changed names to mexican flu not long ago, since it had nothing to do with swines InfestedHydralisk 20:31, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Twolegs with cats donno get pig- or swine- or mexicanflu ;-). --Silverleaf Special:Contributions/SilverleafDon't assume, Know! 23:10, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


hiya Gaile I was bored and randomly looking around Guild wiki and stumbled upon the canceled game utopia

if you can it would be nice if some of the features would appear in GW2 or mabe it will become available after GW2 comes out?

if you dont have any of the features from this game left over from after you canceled and possibly deleted all the stuff from this game i wonder if it would be possible to bring this out

(for some reason im a fan of ancient aztec and ive seen the consept art of the time hub city and love that too)

Getefix 18:36, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I think some of that was the inspiration for Asura and the Tarnished Coast. Other random elements were also used for the later parts of Guild Wars. You never know, some of it may still be salvaged and waiting for GW2, especially the concept art, it's bad business to completely scrap all your work. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 18:48, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Several of my guildies and vent users were discussing this the other day, and it wouldn't surprise us if some of the Utopia concepts are used in Guild Wars 2 or whatever following expansions/campaigns they incorporate. 21:00, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
A good chunk of Utopia was probably already integrated into The Eye of the North - Aztek themed Asura lands, the Tannek (or as we know them, the Destroyers), etc. Roar! Poki#3 (talk) 22:42, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I forgot about the Destroyers. I know a lot of Tarnished Coast scenery was from Utopia, like the suspended bridges in the jungle (some of the concept art for Utopia), and I think even the dinosaur theme of the monster set. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 06:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey now, you know that's a Guild Wars 2 question. Or at least it's sort of there. ;) The concept art for Utopia is beautiful -- I agree. I love the architecture and the foliage! Anyway, like you, I hope we see more of that style in Guild Wars 2. Heck, I hope we use the name "Utopia" someday, too! But whether we will do either or both remains to be seen in the distant haze of the future. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 18:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Ah, Utopia. I know we will see bits and pieces of concepts from it in GW 1 and 2, but the whole thing probably will only be known in a parallel universe where Gaile is a blonde guy, Greywind was accidently made a girl and where Guild Wars has the monthly fee and is more popular than WoW. >.> I've watched a little too much Fringe. ^^" Katherinezoltin 07:54, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

So... what'd everyone get?

Krait Neoss on my only four-year-old character so far (I didn't make a lot until later...). Only a white, but it does still look cool. :) Reminds me a little of a hydralisk somehow, too... -- Sirius (talk) 07:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I have gotten a Krait Neoss and an Abomination so far. I'm really happy about the Djinn -- Linsey and I chatted about that one quite a bit and I was tickled it go into the game. And she already has a few requests for next year from me. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 07:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh year...a mini Gaile please to remind us of great times :) Didis 16:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
No No No No Noooo...A mini Gaile Gray for GW2, as to remember GW in the future!! And a triplet like the three stooges calling them "the founders". ;-) And charmable mini cats!!! I for one cannot wait till my 4th bday...hoping for a Kveldulf for sure!!! --Silverleaf Special:Contributions/SilverleafDon't assume, Know! 17:11, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Was hoping for a Krait, but my new Quetzal Sly is nice looking too :) --Arduinna talk 17:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I deleted my first character a year after it was created (That warrior was so ugly). So the oldest char I'm getting will be 3 in June (Mage Montu). You know, Anet should really give pressies to those who's account will turn 5 next year =P --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 22:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
I deleted and remade a lot of characters in the first year. I'm happy for the gifts I'm getting, but oh, it could have been more! -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:01, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
A Quetzal Sly for me...have to wait a lot of days for the other ones...played solely on my rangers the first couple of months, befor creating a second character...ah well learned that i should create all professions at the start of gw2 :) Didis 09:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

i would love if come GW2 before its release we could make a non tradeable mini of ONE character(armor and wepon of choice included on it) for GW2 and posibly GW1 so we could take a little more of the ones who paved the ways so out great great somthin grand children could be 1337, call it <insert charachter name> memorial mini, like for me mine would be "Lord Randy Taylor memorial mini" be Green and non tradeable so its your own little special trophy, but it likely wont happen--Lord randy taylor 06:49, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Minis are fun for the old

I donno if I'm just bugged, annoyed or jealous... but I've come onto the scene rather late by some standards (my oldest character is 1.5yrs old) so sure birthday minis are fun and all but by the time I'm gonna be seeing a 4th year mini the 7th year minis will be out... it seems to me that all the newer players are forever going to be behind the 8ball on the aspect of minis... the only way to get the newest stuff is to buy it from those few older players willing to part with the extras from their backup or extra characters... I really donno a solution to this as the older players have their right to neet stuff also... I just can't help but feel slightly jaded that this aspect of giveaways will never really be appreciated by "younger" characters... MrPaladin 18:07, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

It's even worse for holiday hats: you will never get one of the older ones. That's just how things are - some rewards are for those who helped this game get on its feet from the start. I'm always a while behind (I get my first 2 in December and January, and the rest a year behind or more) and the new-mini hype is over by the time I get mine, but it's ok. I usually buy the one mini I like (white, because they're cheaper ^_^ - Kveldulf this time methinks <3) and then wait until they get really cheap, and buy the rest, which usually happens around when the new edition comes, so soon I'm going to buy the rest of my third year collection... At least I'm happy that I have the potential to get almost any mini in the game. I'm sad I missed the first halloween/wintersday/tengu hats, though... And really, the new minis are little more than a hype, and a little reward for those who got the game in the first year, especially in the beta. Some of my favorites are still the Charr Shaman and the Lich from the first and second series, so it's all a matter of taste. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 18:15, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
The holiday hats I'm not as worried about funny enough... mostly because when the event comes around we do have access to the same prize... but because we were not at the earlier events then we miss out... but we also dont have the emotional attachment to the older hats... sure it would be nice to have them but its no biggie... its the reverse for the minipets however, as I feel like when the birthdays do come around I'm only gonna be opening a gift that was rewrapped from 3 years ago that "uncle steve" (no reference to a real person or character) already told me he had 7 of them... >< would be nice jsut to have something new on your birthday, not something rehashed... I really donno of a solution to my angst on this tho except to have some alternat ways to get birthday minis... I don't have a problem at all with minis such as the greesed lightning or panda and such that were linked to events, just the birthday gifts that really are nothing to look forward too MrPaladin 19:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Here's a real life analogy: If you're not the first child in your family, you're going to have this sort of thing happen all the time. Your big brother gets a bike before you do, but when you get a bike, it's yours (even a "hand-me-down" from the older brother). It's not easy being the younger kid -- I know, I am No. 3 of 3. It was irritating to see my brothers tooling around town in a car when I was poking on my 10-speed. :) In the game, as in life, the "older folks" get the privileges and the prizes/gifts that are due them for their greater years. And the fact that I'm opening a gift that is a known commodity doesn't diminish my excitement when I open a 1st or 2nd year present on my newer characters, because what that character is getting is appropriate for that particular character's age.
What I think would be very inappropriate is to give 4th year presents to someone who has only played for a single year. I don't think we should say "Guild Wars is 4 -- all players are eligible for 4th Year gifts." The whole concept of the presents -- and I oughta know, I am the one who first suggested the idea to Mike O'Brien ;) -- was to reward players for their "veterancy" and their loyalty. I like the current program, because it really does give long-term players the extra recognition they so richly deserve. They can keep the miniatures, give them to friends, bin, them, or sell or trade them. But in my opinion, they really should be the only ones to get them at the start, simply because that's in keeping with the whole idea behind the gift program. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 19:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Thats the kicker... I really really don't mind older players having stuff that I will never be able to get... but it is slightly disappointing to open a first year gift these days... the hand me down from the older brother has seen better days by the time I get it.... by the time it's rewrapped I have already purchased my own bike (or car)... or given up on riding altogether after seeing my brother ride his bike til its rusty... /end analogy MrPaladin 20:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, I can relate to your frustration, it's completely understandable, but I don't see a solution to it, other than Gift of the Traveler or maybe the Black Moa Chick all your own. That or give away your 1st year presents to those who will be excited to open them, and save yourself the disappointment. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 20:10, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Yer to turn the story to a good note I do indeed love the adition of minis to the traveler and the moa hunt... they are definatly a step in the right direction... I tend to give away the minis I open to people who are new to the game and have no chance to get one at all for a year MrPaladin 20:29, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
To reward loyalty to the game, and getting away from the economic (mis)use of the minipet's it should be said there are other ways to acknowledge people are playing the game with real fun and passion. lot's of people can buy the loyalty recognition and that's in my oppinion missing the point of your suggestion to Mike O'Brien. I think it's an idea to add somthing specific, non tradable to the game which can be used by the people and can be shown to all in outposts, towns and conquests. I have some ideas but due to the suggestion discussion i don't know if it's save to add them to the it Gaile? Didis 09:49, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I also don't see the possibility that the birthdays will ever be changed... I mean its been this way 4 years already I highly doubt it will be changed... I did however see a suggestion one time to trade in one type of mini for another (with added costs)... I really donno how t o make this a feel good situation except to jsut let it be what it is and enjoy other aspects of the game... leaving the birthday minis to the characters who were ingame first and annually enjoy the gift MrPaladin 13:33, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I agree, it's fine as it is. It is the choice of the player to sell the new mini in order to get a new set of elite armor or weapons, or buy some sweets for their title craving, or keep it as a rare show-off piece. And in the end, we still get a bunch of cute little creatures to follow us around without trying to eat us. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 17:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I just wish Minis weren't tradable. I love the idea of having presents, but it defeats the purpose when they're introduced to the economy because it gives a direct monetary advantage to older players. would have been much better to have a mini npc like the holiday hat person. Kumlekar 21:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I think that's a horrible idea. Those with more characters would get more minis, and those with the base 4 characters and/or started late get no chance of ever getting anything they like, if they get an unlucky roll from their presents. Minis are in the HoM, and it would take ages to fill the base 20 with just your own, especially if you get doubles. Also, the monetary advantage isn't as big as you may think. Those who get them may opt to keep them simply because they like them. And if someone is willing to pay tons of cash for the new fling, let them, it redistributes wealth to those who don't farm as hard, and the mini eventually gets devalued anyway. (Disregard that last comment if you didn't vote for Obama...) I too am jealous of the people who have the new minis and the old hats because they started in the beta weekend, farm eternal blades and bone dragon staves, and have a set of obsidian armor on each of their 15 main characters... But it is my choice to work as much or as little to get what I want. Jealousy is no reason to request that someone else can't have the thing you can't have. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 22:31, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Cos I'm greedy I would have liked (not a suggestion) Birthday Celebration Presents and Birthday Presents: Celebration Presents would be gifted to each account (not a suggestion) and unique to Guild Wars birthday not, (not a suggestion)as is the case with Birthday Presents, related to the characters age. But that's just me. (not a suggestion) if you can read this "Whoa, you is Superman  :P 01:13, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


Only 100 minutes to go? Congrats! Considering how much you went through already that's practically nothing ;] — Poki#3 My Talk Page :o 20:11, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

*Cheesy grin.* Thanks! Yeah, I'm >.< that close. I am now holding off for a suitably festive occasion to make the leap. :D -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:13, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
You've reached the "OVER NINE THOUSAND!" point. :) Gratz. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 20:36, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
What? 9000? There's no way that can be right! — Poki#3 My Talk Page :o 21:03, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
No? Ummm.. why can't it be right? Level 1 is 1,000 points. Level 2 is 10,000 points. Right? *confused* -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 21:19, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Grats Gaile. (It's a Dragonball Z reference they're saying!) DarkNecrid 21:27, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Doh! *blush* Yeah, I get it. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 21:32, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
LOL Gaile's Blush Level is over 9000!!!! What? ^_^ 21:35, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
I'd paste a picture of Nappa here if I didn't know it would be deleted as copyvio :P — Poki#3 My Talk Page :o 21:45, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
heres the over 9000 reference for your information gaile :p InfestedHydralisk 22:29, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
100 points shouldn't be hard. All Gaile has to do is ask nicely in a city. Instant booze.-- User Vanguard VanguardLogo.pnganguard 22:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
gaile asking? if gaile would say hello in an outpost she will get enough booze lol InfestedHydralisk 22:32, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
True! xD-- User Vanguard VanguardLogo.pnganguard 23:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

There is the Ascalon Royal Family Masquerade Ball 09 coming up, is that festive enough for you? :) (Im at 9,997, and waiting for the clink of tankards!) Frozenwind 00:17, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I missed that one, due to traveling. But I am still un-Hounded, so I'll save it for sometime special. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 16:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


are you really gaile the dev??? or just use the same name?? Because I never seen a dev openly register on a fansite awesome if you do, ty.

Gaile was CM and is now support laison. Regina and Martin Kerstein are here too ;-). --Silverleaf Special:Contributions/SilverleafDon't assume, Know! 19:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
@op, this isn't a fansite. This is the OFFICIAL wiki, hence the website link, the picture in the top left, and the in-game command /wiki which will take you here. This is Gaile Gray, former CM of ArenaNet, now she's Support Liasion. And as far as fansites go, many arenanet members have accounts on fansites, in fact; the CM's job is to stay 'in' with the community and monitor the fansites for feedback and bug reports and such. Thats all, ~Nox <3
Hi. Yes, I work for ArenaNet, as it says at the top of the page. I'm a big fan of the wiki, and I do my best to stay active on this user talk page, the Support Issues page, and wherever else I can make a contribution. Keep in touch any time. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 17:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Is texmod a legal third party program?

I was just wondering the difference between texmod, a program that modifies the graphics of guild wars, and a basic macro script that automates actions such as drinking, skill chains, or other actions. I can understand why a macro can be deemed illegal since you could viably set something up to play the game for you while you're not there, or providing you with an advantage over other players like getting the drunkard title easier. But doesnt texmod do the same thing? It makes getting the cartography title soooo much easier. That gives players who use the third party program a much bigger advantage than those who dont, and seems alot more unfair then just a simple double click macro. I'm just wondering the legality of all this since texmod is apparently allowed, but scripts aren't. Thanks --adrin User Adrin ecto sig.png 21:55, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

For cartographer, you could just take clean maps off the wiki, and screnshots from a maximised mission map (don't even need the cloud remover), line them up in an image program on layers, and do an XOR. More annoying and finniky, yeah, but not harder. Solves the problem of not remembering where you've scraped if you don't keep a list or something, which is the main point of the mods IMO: not having to do finiky recordkeeping. --Star Weaver 22:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Texmod#ArenaNet has it all. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 22:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
(ec)(ec) >_< Texmod is not endorsed by Anet, but is also not considered illegal and bannable. The most important difference between Texmod and an afk script is how they are used. With Texmod, you still have to play the game to uncover the map, kill the monsters to get to where you want to be, and not die, etc. - seeing the missing map pieces is only a part of the puzzle. With alchohol, you run an afk script that does not need you to be there, that is a no-no by the EULA. It can be considered botting by definition, as a program is playing the game for you. So, I hope you can see that the two cannot be compared as being the same kind of thing. The question of either being legal or not is a different one, but they are in their nature different things, and equal treatment does not apply. I got my cartographers without Texmod, and doing my Ale Hound honestly as well, as I feel that cheating to get either cheapens the feeling of achievement, even if it looks the same to others. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 22:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
My main question, rose, is in the title of the post. Which you did not comment on. The third party program gives you an advantage over other players who do not use it. It modifies the game. Rule # 9 of the Rules of Conduct states, "You may not modify any part of the Guild Wars Client, Server, or any part of the official Guild Wars websites." Texmod takes the client and modifies the graphics to give an advantage to players using it. Sounds like an illegal mod to me. Edit: I'm not trying to start a flame or a wall, I'm just confused as to why this isn't considered an illegal mod. --adrin User Adrin ecto sig.png 00:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Third party programs and Guild Wars are hot topics. Arenanet needs to come out and give us a big list. It says in the rules they're disallowed, yet it's clear some are tolerated. Definations is required big time. 00:28, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
TexMod doesn't modify the client, server, or any part of the Guild Wars website. It reads textures from the client that are being used by DirectX (this isn't modifying), and then it takes those textures and replaces them with other textures via DirectX (also not modifying). It modifies DirectX (what it is displaying, etc), but not the client itself. DarkNecrid 01:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
The EULA also states you cannot use any keyboard or mouse to play. You think anyone follows it to the letter?
On a side note, TexMod does modify the game client. It's just not a permanent change. ~Shard User Shard Sig Icon.png 03:49, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Calm your mind; eliminate all emotions; attune yourself with use your psychic powers to play....Pika Fan 04:29, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Somewhere I have a jpg of a ten-foot pole, the likes of which Gaile will not likely be touching this topic with :D --snogratUser Snograt signature.png 05:57, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
There's always Image:Bo Staff.jpg. --Star Weaver 11:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
How's it modify the client Shard? As far as I am aware TexMod only interacts with DirectX. The only reason you chose what executable file is so it knows which file to intercept the Direct3D calls from. Either way, Shard is right that technically you can read the LA to the point that it states you can't use a kb/mouse. The truth is, is the License Agreements are typically very general and cover lots of lots of ground in (attempted) brevity. They state that you can't use third party programs just so if a third party program that's bad comes out they can say, "hey, this is bad, read this". It doesn't mean all third party programs aren't allowed, if that was the case, Ventrilo etc wouldn't be allowed! Just the bad ones. In this case, they've deemed (rightly so tbh) the gameplay advantage TexMod gives you is minimal/non-existant compared to what a bot (even an afk one) would give you. At best TexMod can help save a little bit of time doing Cartographer (but you still have to get all the areas yourself!) or help a lower skilled player MAYBE do 1% better in PvP (making an animation more apparent), whereas an afk bot saves you time + you don't have to do anything whereas other players do. DarkNecrid 15:05, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
I don't think it'd be practical for ArenaNet to come out with a list to say "these are the third-party modifications you're allowed to use" or "these are the types of changes you're allowed to make to the game" because, in the first case, the list of mods that are "in the wild" is always changing and it probably isn't practical to review them all in detail; and in the second case, there are often really hazy lines to draw, e.g. it may be OK to modify some of the textures on the map, but it's a lot more questionable whether modifying wall textures to give them partial transparency should be allowed. Their current system is probably about as good as you're going to get for a "permissive" rather than "restrictive" approach... -- Sirius (talk) 16:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Let me summarise the party line for you: Arenanet does not condone the use of TexMod, but they do not actively pursue it's use for punishment, while reserving the right to kittenstomp people without warning at any time. They will also not support you if TexMod fucks you over in any way, shape or form. Use at your own risk, they choose to ignore it for now. Misery 16:30, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Instead of all the opinions from people here you can also just read the Texmod Page and see for yourself what Emily Diehl and Gaile wrote there. As long as you use it in a good way (like to adjust your armor, or changing UI looks) it's no problem. But ofc Arenanet doesn't take any responsibility for Texmod. That's normal, it's not theirs, they also don't take responsibility for Windows blowing up your pc, etc. User_talk:DewdropPepper - Dewdrop talk 10:49, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for that link, Dewdrop. I think you'll find all the info that you need on that page Adrin. And please keep in mind, TextMod changes what you see on your client, but does not change anything on the server. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 18:12, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Kthx --adrin User Adrin ecto sig.png 05:00, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Gaile I hope you can help me

I joined a Woodcarvers group and I had witnessed how they judge things and they have a section for birds, my question to you is you see everyone does the same thing and its well boring I would like to know who do I contact because I would like to carve the Rainbow Phoenix and I would like to get permission and some 360 degree rendition of it if I can since its hard to get the pet to stay still. Once I put it into the competition I would be glad to send it to the staff as a thank you for allowing me to carve it. Spike Firemane --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User: (talk).

I would love to see pics of this when it is completed.Talk page Drogo Boffin 02:15, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
We already have a nice render of the Rainbow Phoenix here. I think that, plus the side view uploaded by Sixth should at least get you started. If you need other angles, I don't know why you can't just make a few screenshots in game, but if you NEED a nice render then go ask Emily nicely ;] Roar! Poki#3 (talk) 03:17, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Wow... that would be a monster to carve with all the fine feathers. I'd love to see it, kudos for not going with the usual cookie cutter bird, as long as fantasy birds count for your category. And I think the Anet bird lover would do anything to have you send her one. :) User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 03:44, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey Spike. That sounds like an awesome project! I am sorry that we don't have 360 renders readily available, but I do think the screenshot idea is good. Taken from various angles, those shots would give a very good view that would surely help with the carving. All the best -- I hope it turns out well. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 18:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Something Overlooked By All... Except Me

Ok now this is interesting.

January: GW live announced they were gonna be doing a BIG update in April and then once every 3-4 months.
April: GW live introduced the changes (very good job btw).
May: GW live announced what was coming for the month of... hey! That Hasn't happened yet!

So what I am trying to say Gaile is wtf happened to the next devoloper update??? 11:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Try looking at a little more than just the main page, perhaps? Linsey updated her journal here on the wiki just a few days ago to let us all know that the devs are brainstorming on the content for the next update, so it's not like they've forgotten about it or are coming back on their initial promise. Updates don't magically happen, and a clear notion of what will be in the update isn't conjured up out of thin air, either. I'm sure that they will make announcements about the next big update as soon as they have something more substantial to say other than "we're brainstorming". So relax, they're working on it. :) (Incidentally, Gaile's talk page isn't the place to bring this sort of thing up anyway.) -- User Elveh sig.png Elv 12:09, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Pretty sure they didn't say they were going to tell us 3 months before the big update either. So you fail. Mini Me talk 13:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
"fail"? Be nice! :) -- Sirius (talk) 15:45, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
I (personally) would not look for information about the next major update for several weeks. I am not in a position to state this with certainty, but I don't think it would be policy to talk about each update for the full three months prior to it going live. ;)
And please note, a Developer Update about the most recent skill update did go live today, so information continues to flow. Hope you find that a good read! -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:58, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Thnx Gaile, I understand now. And I do look at Elveh. More then most actually. But really im not sure if ive ever been in Lindseys page. 11:04, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
I never said you didn't look at, actually. ;) But yeah, you might want to check out the user pages of other ANet staff, too, and particularly those of Regina Buenaobra and Linsey Murdock. If there's anything new to say, they're going to be among the first to say it. :) -- User Elveh sig.png Elv 11:41, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


Hi Gaile, I would like to send you a picture I have rendered, is there an email I can send it to? I don't want to link to it on the wiki :) If you don't want to write an email addy here, I'd be happy if you contacted me in-game and gave me one. :) Hope this doesn't sound weird LOL ^_^ - Minami Kaori (<-- also my ign name).

On your left, under the bar named 'Toolbox', there is an option call 'Email this User'. You can use that. --MageUser MageMontu sig.pngMontu 21:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh thank you, I am still not that familiar with the wiki, though I'm really liking it so far. I didn't see the email option because I wasn't registered yet. ^_^ Minami Kaori 03:28, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Gaile, would it be possible for you to tell me if you've received my wiki email to you? I am not sure I have done everything right, since I am new to and confused by the wiki (not for long I hope ^_^), and I just want to make sure that it got through. Minami Kaori 10:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
I have not received a wiki email in about two weeks. And I miss them -- and my update alerts -- greatly! :( If you care to email me at SupportLiaison@Arena.Net, I personally will get the mail. The mailbox is exclusively mine, so you may share anything via that means that you would share via a wiki email. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 23:34, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Awww, that's bad. :S I hope the problem will get corrected soon :) Okay, I will resend my email to you to that address. ^_^ Minami Kaori 09:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

A project

Hey Gaile, I recently started a project (a GW movie project) and I'd like to hear your oppinion. Please watch it when you got some time. :) Thanks! InfestedHydralisk 21:49, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey there, Inf. I finally had a chance to sit down and view the movie. (I've been super busy and had some traveling I was doing, too.) Anyway, the movie is great fun, and you did a real good job! I'm looking forward to seeing the next episodes. You'll let me know when they're posted, right? :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:30, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Email Sent

I know you're probably busy, but if you could take the time

Would you check your email linked to your GWW account sometime soon? It would be much appreciated. Thanks ~ Ryuu DesuUser Ryuu Desu Sig.png[ Talk|Contributions ] 03:07, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but wiki email is broken for all of ArenaNet. I'm not getting wiki alerts, and am not getting wiki emails, either. You could write me at SupportLiaison@Arena.Net, but if you have concerns of a support nature, I'd very much appreciate you adding them to the Support Issues page. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 03:13, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Not really a support related issue, so I won't opt for that; is there any other alternative before I just put the entire thing on your talk page? I'd honestly rather keep it out of the public eye. ~ Ryuu DesuUser Ryuu Desu Sig.png[ Talk|Contributions ] 03:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
The email address comes to me, exclusively. You are free to use that address to contact me. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 22:05, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I feel your pain

Hey Gaile, I just wanted to drop a word to say that I feel your pain. While in college I interned on a state-run consumer hotline for a couple years, taking about 40-80 calls a day, every call coming from someone who thought they had just been screwed and felt that I was the only person who could help them. I can't tell you how many times I got the "my taxes pay your salary..." bs, and I didn't have the heart to tell people that I was work-study and my college was paying my salary, who in turn was being paid by my tuition, so really I was paying myself to try and help them (one time I told a woman that I was an intern, and she said "you volunteered for this?" like I was some kind of moron). We used to get angry people that would call us every day, knew us each by first name, and would just yell at us for an hour (we weren't allowed to hang up on anyone, so we had to just take it). People used to say crazy things (there was one woman who wanted to sue her doctors because the kids she had had by artificial insemination were ugly, and she had specifically requested beautiful children), petty stuff (an old man called to let us know that he had bought a 2 liter bottle of soda, measured it, and found that it only had 1.98 liters in it), or things that were just not our problem (a man called me once because he wanted me to take his cocaine charge off his driving record, "I wasn't driving when I was busted" he said, I told him we only dealt with consumer issues, he said "Well I consumed as much of the coke as I could before I got busted, that makes me a consumer, right?" when I told him no, he proceeded to yell at me and threaten me for the next 45 minutes).

Helping angry or otherwise difficult people is no easy job, most of our interns chose not to stay on after their required six months was up, and it takes a special kind of person to stick with it. The mere fact that you are still here, still nice, and still helping people everyday means you are that kind of person. I just wanted to let you know that, even if it doesn't seem like it, everyone, even the crazy people who want you to do things you can't possibly do, everyone appreciates that you are that type of person. Thank you. (Satanael 16:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC))

I agree and I have always said that I could not do your job because of how I am. I snap too quickly and am never going to be good at talking to customers because my patience is way too thin. The fact that you and Regina can put up with our yelling and screaming and whining is a miracle to me. I have always respected you guys for the fact that you can do things I will never be able to do without verbally attacking someone. Thank you so much for putting up with these idiots, makes you a better person than me. ^^" Katherinezoltin 19:54, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Feel the pain of those inferior beings, as you wiki in hell. 23:14, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
lol tales of symphonia. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User: (talk).
I actually think that's a very interesting job, oh....what would I give to record those conversations and send it to some Just For Laugh Gags show for everyone to hear. Pika Fan 00:41, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) It is a challenging job, some days more than others. I really appreciate your kind words -- they mean a lot to me! It's also a fascinating job, and one I feel passionate about. I count myself fortunate every day to be able to do what I do, for the company I work for, with the extraordinary people who make up our community. I am a very, very lucky person. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 21:37, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

What is Daniel Scared of

The Snowman Himself,"Why am I so scared of bunnies?
Gaile, I recently was talking to my Frozen friend, and came across a very interesting and fun fact. Daniel FrozenWind's number 2 weakness ! The first of course being the summer heat. But the second is sure to give you a rolling on the floor laugh of the year ! I won't blow the answer here, for it's something you need to ask him yourself LOL, But Daniel has a huge fear of BUNNIES !!! I thought it would be a nice Conga line this coming Wintersday, But Daniel said oh no !!! That's a terrible Idea !!! Hence me finding his hidden weakness ! You must ask him yourself for the answer ! enjoy !  :) Xiena 08:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
He's simply afraid a bunny will eat his nose, that is the Bunny Conspiracy (that and that Bunnies will take over the world o_O, Cottontail Tonics are their third step. First was the mini tonic and second was this guy. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 21:41, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I be thinkin' Lady Xiena is an Agent of Bunnies (-1) o_0 Frozenwind 21:51, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh yes Sir! My Frozen lovable Friend ! I have evil plans for this Winterday muhaha! Xiena 20:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Quick Request

Hey Gaile, I recently wrote a post about my stance on Arena.Net, respectfully directed towards many of the more outspoken members of this wiki. However, I am unsure if, legally, my argument is solid. If you could quickly read over it and correct any misunderstandings I may have over amount of control Arena.Net retains over Guild Wars, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. Blood Red Giant Mani Mortus 00:31, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Blood Red. ANet reserves the right (like all other game companies) to modify or terminate services. This is in large part to help maintain or improve the service, because if users owned the service, the users would have the last word on what gets changed and what does not. Just imagine the torment created by a community of people who don't all agree with each other. Mind you, ANet is neither uncaring nor powertripping. Legalities aside, ANet is trying to provide a good service, and is only banning users that are in some important way impacting negatively on the gaming experience of others. I don't believe that they ever plan to ban people because of what they say on forums or wiki. -- Alaris_sig Alaris 01:49, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
I thank you for the legal clarification, Alaris. That is what I believed to be true, and I just wanted to confirm. As for the uncaring bit, the rant was more directed at those who have continued to breach their agreement with ANet, and still wish to complain about how ANet treats them. In such a case, I do assume ANet would stop caring about them whining, as it is usually irrelevant shouting. However, that being said, please remember that the rant is meant to be taken in two ways. For those whom it is directed towards, it is meant to gain their trust and detail the reason why their arguments are in vain. At the same time, for those whom are a little clear headed and of good humor, it is simply an amusing essay meant to express the general sentiment of "will you simply shut up already."
As for my comments with Shard, I believe ANet is more likely to ban someone who has had many previous offenses, which is what Shard would consider discrimination. Truthfully, I just consider that reasonable. I also believe that, at times, ANet will lie. In certain circumstances that is simply good business practice (as long as you do not get caught). I also believe, at times, that ANet will go back on previous statements if the infraction proves to be extremely grievous. Lastly, please realize many of my statements such as "Acting without due cause may make Arena.Net a terrible company" does not necessarily state that Arena.Net acts without due cause. With such statements, I am merely holding such assumptions, no matter how absurd, to be true for the sake of the argument.
I hold no ill will towards Arena.Net and will respectfully keep my head down, just in case. However, I will speak out against those who insight disorder and personal attacks, with a simple, well-written rebuttal explaining the futility of their efforts. Blood Red Giant Mani Mortus 02:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Stalking someone because they have previous offenses is understandable, and I kinda agree with that "policy." I was not banned for repeated violations (and support tickets I've gotten back say that). I was banned because Gaile wanted me banned. There's a difference between reasonable punishments and personal vendettas. ~Shard User Shard Sig Icon.png 02:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Again, Shard, I refer you back to my post, as the reason(s) for your ban is/are truly irrelevant. Blood Red Giant Mani Mortus 02:48, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Gaile, as Alaris has kindly answered my question concerning legalities, I would be more than willing to have this conversation moved to one of my talk pages before it gets out of hand. However, I leave that decision up to you. Blood Red Giant Mani Mortus 02:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure Anet banned you to silence you ingame but would continue to let you post on the wiki, where your anti-Anet comments can be read by a lot more people at the same time. Personally, I think that you just don't understand why you got banned. I think it's because what you consider to be normal behaviour is actually very offensive to people born a few generations earlier than you (and to be honest, I can sympathize with them, but that's not important). 11:03, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Didn't you ask Shard to read the commnent on your page? I recall hearing Shard say that you asked him to read it when we were on vent last night. In doing so, him responding is to be expected. And as far as topic can archive topics to an archive page on your user space at anytime.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 15:48, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
It is somewhat ambiguous as to whom the last two comments where directed towards. However, as I personally have never been banned, I will assume user was directing his comments towards Shard. As for Yasmin, I will assume you were directing your comments towards me; if you were not, please disregard the rest of my post.
I will set the record straight right now: I did not ask Shard to read my post on Arena.Net. Now, with how vocal Shard is on this wiki, I definitely expected to have him read it at some point; however, I was shocked to find out that he had decided to read it and comment on his own accord within 15 minutes of my posting, not that I am complaining. The only people I have so far asked to read my post are Gaile, my close friends in real life, and my runner friends in Guild Wars. So unless Shard is secretly a top runner in Guild Wars, I never requested for him to read the post.
As for moving the topic, I know Gaile could always just archive the topic. I was simply giving her another option, if she should choose to take it. Blood Red Giant Mani Mortus 16:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Shard had said something of the like "Someone wants me to look at a page," he said your name, so he, myself and Jon all looked at it. I was under the impression that by Shard saying "someone wants me to look" that you had asked him too based on the content matching his current situation and dispute with Anet.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 16:15, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Ah, no, I did not ask him to read it. However, I would not be surprised if "someone" else saw it and said he should check it out. In reality, I know very little of his dispute with Arena.Net, and really have no need to hear the full story. Blood Red Giant Mani Mortus 16:22, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
I am not sure that I would comment in an official sense, but as a wiki member, I think that Alaris sums things up quite well. Did you ever see the sign: We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone? Every game service I've reviewed has a similar policy, but they are reasonable about how it applies. Obviously we're not going to refuse access to the vast majority of people, but if someone breaches the Rules of Conduct or the Use Agreement, we can and will take action to prevent him from continuing to play on our game servers, as is our right and, some would say, our responsibility.
Yes, it's true that a small number of player or former players use the Wiki to their own inappropriate purposes. Even this very thread has become the target of another attempted highjacking. ArenaNet does not administer the Guild Wars Wiki, so any concerns about behaviors here should be sent to the Bureaucrats or SysOps via the Admin noticeboard linked on the left of this and every page. I hope that answers the question. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 21:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
That answers the question quite nicely. Thank you for the response, Gaile. Blood Red Giant Mani Mortus 21:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


ok i know i must not be the only one to bring this up but in the game we know EoTN period is 8 years after the searing so how old are our characters 2 years piror to entry to Ascalon post, cause this has been nagging at me for a bit and the only thing assured is our ppl are 8 years older then they were at the time of the searing(were has the time gone) and im wonderign how old they are during Pre--Lord randy taylor 04:28, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Not to confuse the issue, which is really simple question of age, however, EotN according the the trailer [4] occured 6 years after the Searing, not 8. Thus, to clarify, we have pre, wait 2 years, then post, wait 4 years, and then EotN. Again, that does not really answer your question about the age, but I just wanted to clear up some possible confusion. Blood Red Giant Mani Mortus 05:17, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
I've always wondered what your character does after you finish pre. After you see giant fiery rocks destroy your town, do you fall into a coma for two years? ~Shard User Shard Sig Icon.png 05:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
No I just think the storyline jumps you into the action after 2 years of redevelopment. Or something like that. Dominator Matrix 05:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
I figured you were on patrol with whatshisface, the guy you talked to before you're allowed in the academy. Honestly though, it should've said "2 weeks later" or "2 months" or something, not years. 2 years is enough time for a lot of the plantlife to start regrowing. And why was the water turned to tar, anyway? Fire + water = steam as far as I know, not tar. --Jette User Jette awesome.png 05:49, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes it does seem odd for 2 years, but that's how it's played. With fire comes ashes, water+ashes with no plant life=tar. Dominator Matrix 05:53, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
When life gives you lemons, make lemonades, so if they give you tar, make roads and cigarettes. I don't see any beautiful flat roads, nor people puffing mini time bombs. Pika Fan 05:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Research indicates that smoking a single cigar or two a week can actually extend your overall lifespan in combination with diet and exercise. --Jette User Jette awesome.png 06:03, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Most people don't smoke cigarettes once or twice a week. Pika Fan 06:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
"Welcome back, [Character Name]! It looks like the patrol went well." ... "You've been in the field, so you..." <-- dialog from the first quest after the searing (The_Krytan_Ambassador). Two years works better than two weeks imo because if it was two weeks we could think 'oh, it'll get fixed up' while after two years we can realise that it's not getting any better.
As for age, there's only four ages in GW. Child, teen, adult and old. We're adults! ;) I don't think it's every been specified exactly. It would be awfully odd for so many people to be the exact same age at the time of the searing. User Purple llama sig.png purple llama 06:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
According to Linsey's post at User talk:Gaile Gray/Archive Game-Related Topics/July 2007#Year GW:EN takes place?, Eye of the North takes place three years after Nightfall, six years after the main timeframe of Prophecies and eight years after the Searing. This is supported by Gwen's Story, which states that she was a prisoner of the Charr for seven years. As for ages, I'm pretty sure it's just "child", "adult" and "old" (or, more acurately, "adult with old-looking hair and / or face"), like in the original Sims. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 07:51, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Some collected data is on this wiki under Timeline -- WarBlade 10:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
They quit the game after seeing all of their skills nerfed into the ground.
Would you like to try again, this time making sense and sticking to the topic? Pika Fan 14:57, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
So we've established that Ascalon gets blown up, then two years days later, you go on a patrol. What happened before that patrol? ~Shard User Shard Sig Icon.png 23:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Chaos, panic and discord. Riots in the streets, picket signs about people not wanting to die (a virgin), looting, mass hysteria... Ascalon can't be too different from what happens in the real world when the SHTF. --Jette User Jette awesome.png 00:01, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
The thing about the way the story of GW is presented, is that there are holes in it that you can use to make your own story. What where you doing in that time span? @Jette: and a hero with lightning superpoweres saved the city... oh wait, wrong game. Roar! Poki#3 (talk) 00:16, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

go to the Time line current day EoTN is 1078 preasent day pre- searing is 1070= 8 years and i mean how old were they in 1070 prior to our arival in psot TWO years later--Lord randy taylor 01:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

It's supposed to be an your character is as old as you want it to be. ~Shard User Shard Sig Icon.png 01:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

little bit i forgot to put in but also age of Adlburn and other ;lot omporttant ppl i mean that guy has to be atleast 60--Lord randy taylor 01:19, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Some of the NPC's ages are in the manuals. Adelbern is 61 in pre. ~Shard User Shard Sig Icon.png 01:27, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

o, my Prophecies didint come ith manual so idk tht, i guess that end this question--Lord randy taylor 02:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

"It's supposed to be an your character is as old as you want it to be." My main is 31 in pre, but 19 by EotN. Discuss. --TalkRiddle 02:35, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Is his name Benjamin Button? User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 03:55, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Curiously, that is not the case. --TalkRiddle 06:52, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
^ I lol'd Chi Shan 09:06, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
@Ezekial Riddle: Try explaining that to your local Dungeon Master. ;] Roar! Poki#3 (talk) 11:42, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
A wizard did it. --Jette User Jette awesome.png 11:51, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Boy oh boy, I knew if I didn't answer a bunch of savvy people would be able to give you the skinny. However, the skinny seems to come in several shapes, eh? :) I was always confused by the timeline simply because Gwen looks about, oh, 7 or 8 years old in Pre-Searing, and suddenly she's 18, but she was only help captive for 7 years and... Well, let's just say that I'm not sure about the official story, but you can get an answer (or three) above. *lol* -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:58, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Ashford Abbey Ghost

Hi! I was just wondering about a certain ghost, that can be seen behind the fence of Ashford Abbey in the Pre-searing Ascalon. Is there a history realted to that ghastly creature or it is just a random easter egg? -- Tom Stone 09:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Tom. I don't know of any history, personally. I always just thought he was a cool denizen of the area -- you know, a bit of atmosphere, a little human... err... ghostly interest. I will see if anyone knows more about his story, but I suspect he's just there to add spectral flavour. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Hmm... It may be as you suspect, that he (or maybe she?) is just a random ghastly visitor, placed there just for the visual effect, but if there is a story behind that entity, then it woul mean that Guild Wars still holds some mysteries for the unaware players, even after all those years of research here and n the other Wiki :) -- Tom Stone 11:20, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

battle for khylo

i was readign it the other day and noticed something, CHosen leads to link of flameseeker chosen, i think it means Chosen as in awscalons chosen when it refers the there archers, i brought it up here cause i dont think anyone would chec kti in the battle for khylo section--Lord randy taylor 18:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Just to clarify, he was talking about the link to Chosen that takes place in The Battle for Kyhlo: The Final Hour, just above the second image. I'd change it to point to Ascalon's Chosen instead, but I'm not sure if the copyright issues / direct paste issues apply to links as well. Freedom Bound 18:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Vili already updated it, but, just [[some article|pipe the link]], markup is irrelevant to the copyright of passage as it's not presented as part of the original text, which is not being reproduced with its original typesetting anyhow.
Though, TBH, I would have just un-linked that instance of chosen. Ascalon's Chosen is linked and mentioned in full like an inch or two above it, tops. --Star Weaver 20:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I was going to do that, but some people might have been confused. Vili 点 User talk:Vili 21:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

wanted to avoid somthing by removign it and it having been there for some unnoticed reason--Lord randy taylor 21:47, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Shortbow, Just Shortbow

Heya Gaile,
I haven't spoken to you in quite some time now :o
Well, my survivor is even lucky for you, as he just found a Shortbow(gold), no add, just Shortbow."
So I tought, lets go check if Gaile has it on her list, to find out you have not.
Just try and catch up with me, it's in my storage so I can wait a bit. Dutch Sunshine 19:40, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey DS. Hope you're doing well. I would love to have the boy. I'm out of town just now but will be back in a few days and hope to get into the game soon. Thanks for thinking of me. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:42, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Bad, bad Gaile, collecting little boys for personal use... User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 04:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
oh i dont mind The boy 04:47, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Alright you guys, I just saw the teasing! *lol* I would love the bow thankyewveddymooch. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 03:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Heh, I saw it too, but I tought she must've meant bow, anyway, I won't be online that much in the coming weeks due to a testweek coming in 2 weeks, but I think we can catch up eventually ;) Dutch Sunshine 20:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
goshers ms gway, you don't wike me no more? i might cwy The boy 21:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Fansite Friday

I was going through random pages and I found this one, Fansite Friday. Just wondering, is there going to be one of these for GW2? Assassin WarriorUser Assassin Warrior sig.png 23:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The community team was different back in the days of the Fansite Fridays (or FFs, as I called them in the day, tongue firmly in cheek. ;) ) I imagine that the community managers will be doing different projects for Guild Wars 2. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:50, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Some renders that might interest you

Hey Gaile, Emily did some rendering tonight, she might have already given you a heads up, but in case not, lookie lookie!

The Frog Wintersday.jpgThe Frog Halloween.jpg

Didn't want you to miss them! :) --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 00:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Dang, those are some fine looking images. I am sure that my amphibian buddy will be "most pleased." :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:35, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I poked around and can't find a similar image of the hatless Froggie. Has anyone see one? -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 16:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
There's a similar image of the hatless frog in it's miniature page, altough I dont seem to be able to open up that picture as it links me back to the miniature page... Dutch Sunshine 21:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Emily hasn't uploaded a hatless render yet, you will have to go over to her desk and poke her! --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 22:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh she's much too nice to poke!
But I'm not above a small nudge. Maybe if I mention my birthday in August... ;) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 00:55, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Wait, your Bday is in August? Don't let that spread around, next thing you know you will have a party in Lion's Arch. Katherinezoltin 07:44, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
*cough* maybe even a Party Time? *cough* --adrin User Adrin ecto sig.png 07:46, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

PvP Question


I'm curious, what sort of PvP do you do? You just seem like an avid PvE nutcase, what, with all your minis and bows. It's kind of scary. I've also noticed you don't have a Deldrimor Shortbow, I think I have one, but it may be customised... King Neoterikos 07:02, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, don't let the minis and bows scare ya. Yes, I am a bit fanatical, but hey, I'm harmless. It's true I'm more PvE than PvP, but I do like both. I prefer Arenas to GvG although I did a lot of GvG at one time. I prefer teams to random. (I figure if someone is going to get stuck me with on their team, they should at least have the courtesy of a warning. ;) ) I like playing Ranger in PvP (and yes, I know that requires a bit of sacrifice on the part of my team, so I try to make it up to them by doing my best to make a decent contribution.) Over time, I've played a bit of Ele, Monk, Rit, and Paragon, too. I haven't done HvH. To tell the truth, the 1v1 style of combat doesn't call me too much -- I think I'm too social. :) That started with StarCraft, War III, etc., where I always had more fun as part of a team instead of mano a mano.
Let me check on that bow and let you know if I need one when I can access the game properly. Thanks for the offer! -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 03:57, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
oh gaile played StarCraft, now thats a nice thing to hear :D InfestedHydralisk 22:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Gaile's famous for playing starcraft, diablo and all sorts of fun games before GW. Those games got her to GW's team. ^^ Katherinezoltin 23:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm not a fan of HvH either, I prefer to play with humans in PvP. It turns out my shortbow is customised (it was on one of my heroes, Jin, that I haven't really used), so, sorry about that. Starcraft is a good game :D King Neoterikos 02:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Zaishen Menagerie

After having tamed as many animals as I could yesterday and today, I began to think about how many there were and what is left.

Okay, quit the formalities... I really wish we could add some of the collectors from the goodbye Gaile event as Charmable animals... or even an egg at the end of a long quest chain that takes us across all 4 games (reminiscent of the Black moa chick).

Hippopotamus, Turtle, Young Wallow, Young Howler, and Trained Devourer... the devourer especially... I rememer Mac and his pet devourer, Joe, that we got him the egg of in pre searing... a devourer would make me just love everyone. --User Estoldt Signature2.pngestoldt 07:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

thats a good idea i quite wont a wallow as a pet --Nick123 12:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Suggestions, suggestions. Gaile can't comment on this yet due to wiki licensing issues. Please wait, they're promising the new licensing to be finished soon. Until then, you can put this on your userpage to "save" it for later. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 14:52, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
i wish they'd do a quest chain like the Black mao chick scavenger hunt for the Moss spider, cause i cant wait to get 2 ( one to use in menagerie, and one to keep)--Lord randy taylor 23:30, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
I hope you don't think that you actually need 2 different spiders, because once it's in the menagerie, you can duplicate it 'til you're sick of looking at the back of Wynn's head and picking evolutions. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 05:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I don't see these as suggestions, I see these as wishes. As such, I can agree that there are a lot of cool possibilities, but when I look at the list of charmable pets, there are a lot on there, some of which I guess I'd just forgotten about. I think the Menagerie is awesome! :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 05:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Wintersday in July

It was great fun for everybody last year, and im sure it will be this year! Thanks to ArenaNet or brining it back this year! --Burning Freebies 16:24, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm excited about it, too! :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 17:22, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
We'll see. --Boro 10px‎ 18:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Come now Boro, dont be a Grentch :) I too am looking forward to this, again.MystiLefemEle 07:35, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm also looking forward to it. I'm just not freaking excited. (just a little) :) --Boro 10px‎ 09:58, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I missed the christmas one so im looking forward to it --splatterpuss 10:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Can we get Polar Bearz?!!! O_O User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 19:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering the same thing! :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:15, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Did I hear Polar Bear :O lol although I dont think the quest will be available in July --O Frost O User O Frost O Sig.GIF 16:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Doesn't look like it and the towns aren't decorated either. I'm quite disappointed with this event weekend to be honest. -- WarBlade 22:47, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
I checked because I wasn't sure if I remembered last year correctly, but the towns are not decorated for Wintersday in July. Oh, and the quests aren't available, so no polar bear. *sniff* -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 03:15, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
sigh im a bit disappointed as I was going to play snowball arena's but I see we are having quite the syncing problem... whole guilds "amazingly" make up a whole team giving most teams no chance.. im done with it honestly id rather not have winters day in July if that's the only thing that profits =/ --O Frost O User O Frost O Sig.GIF 18:16, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Tbh, Frost, just get over it. I don't sync, but I've gotten 20 wins more than once this weekend (and I barely ever play). And I know for a fact that I played at least 2-3 sync'd teams. Just keep playing and eventually you'll get a decent team. Karate Jesus 18:29, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
That's what I did. Kept losing miserably on my monk, until got lucky to get a team of 2 monks and 2 eles, and we steamrolled through 10 wins with 5:0 half the time until the other monk left, got 2 more with a necro that replaced the monk, and then I DC'd... :( Though, it was rather frustrating to end up on Grenth side about 3/4 of the time... In an average group vs another average group, Grenth seems to lose 9/10. Why is it so un-balanced? I mean, yellow snow versus avalanche is LAUGHABLE, you get 10 seconds of disease that doesn't do hardly any damage, and spreads back to you when they run up, while avalanche gives a rather significant advantage, it's ridiculous. :( I would like to see a statistic of total wins on Dwayna vs. Grenth. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 20:09, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm speaking more for the general population of players, I don't think its fair that the have to play against strategized teams in a "random" fun snowball event, it then becomes more of stress then pleasure for them.. Believe it or not there are still some first timers and such and they might not even get enough CC shards for a weapon or gift.. I just feel there is still a problem that needs to be addressed in the pvp aspect in general... well without turning to the dark side and syncing themselves that is --O Frost O User O Frost O Sig.GIF 22:10, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Amusing loss in RA

Check this out

Hehe I got this team in RA the other day, figured it might get a laugh out of someone. We lost miserably. User Tha Reckoning A Funny RA Team.jpg --Tha Reckoning 00:08, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

All the secondary classes spell Ramen if you go down the list. lol. DarkNecrid 04:55, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
And why should this be posted on Gaile's page? 06:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Idk, wanted to tell someone and Gaile was the first person to pop into my head. --Tha Reckoning 08:40, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Why not? It's a talk page, if someone wishes to converse with Gaile, they can. King Neoterikos 10:49, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
It's hardly productive to flood Gaile's page with unproductive posts just because people want to converse with Gaile. That's why I asked. Sorry that I did. 18:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
You must have missed the top announcement, it says that this is the page for chit-chat, official stuff goes to her support page. Freedom Bound 18:23, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Now look who's flooding the page with unproductive posts just because they want others to be productive?  :P User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 20:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
On-topic: This is another reason why monks (and in general - healers) should still stay on their RA teams. I had enough occurrences of a largely defensive/healing party going trough to get their 5 or 10 wins. Also, ROFL @ the RAMeN comment ^^ --User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 23:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
All their primary prof's spell "Mo Mo Mo Mo" - foreshadowing of the impending cow invasion! 04:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Boy, I've heard of specialists builds, but I don't think that's what they were talking about. ;)
@24 -- Next on the discussion board, the Guild Wars Cow Level. :D -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

We could steal the combat level from RS, and have a cow combat level, based on a compilation of traits: moo volume, udder strength, cow kung fu skillz, etc. =D --Tha Reckoning 06:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I like that idea. I think we should milk this plan for all it's worth! :D -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 07:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Now now Gaile, you should know better than anyone that the current licensing terms do not allow you to comment upon suggestions. Misery 08:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Gasp! I stand silenced and uncowed. ;) -- --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Gaile Gray (talk).
MOO --Tha Reckoning 11:00, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Can't you see? It's an anagrammatically coded, secret message: "Mormon Moa Memo" - I knew there was something sinister about those big chickens. --snogratUser Snograt signature.png 19:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Filthy poultry! --Tha Reckoning 01:32, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
I thought UW was the Cow Level? At least, that is what I heard...but that was way back in my first year of playing, when everyone was a newbie! ^^" Katherinezoltin 07:36, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


I was wondering if trading thru is legal.

Why am I concerned? because of this. You can buy forum gold with real life currency but not sell forum gold for real life currency, and once you have forum gold you can then trade that forum gold for items in-game, or trade items in-game for forum gold.

So in short, you do not sell items for real life currency, you cannot sell forum gold for real life currency, so you cannot earn any real life currency by using this forum.

My brother uses it to trade items in D2, and I wanna use it to get "richer" in GW by trading items for forum gold in other games and use that forum gold to buy items and/or platinum/ecto's in GW. This would be a vessel to transfer my wealth in other games to GW.

Thank you for reading. talk Qaletaqa Hania 15:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Chances are the answer is going to be no since ANet reserves the right to kittenstomp your account at any time for any reason they see fit, but since you would not be "buying" ArenaNet property (in-game gold), they'd probably be hard-pressed to point out which part of the EULA you violated. Essentially, it would be the same as someone giving you gold for free. However, due to the fact that the forum does provide RMT, they could be subject to a brief and brutal lawsuit. That said, don't take my word for it. I'm sure Gaile will happily correct anything I've misworded here. ··· Danny Pew Pew 16:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Hmm. Real money 'forum gold' game item. IMO, NOT kosher. --Max 2 17:00, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
It's not game item -> forum gold -> real money, you cannot sell your forum gold for real money. You are paying real money to use his service/forum, not for in-game items.
Let's say you have items in D2 and you wanna trade those items for items in GW by converting those items into forum gold, you only have to buy forum gold with real money if you don't have any items in any other game that you can trade for forum gold. So if you do have items in other games you don't need to buy forum gold, so then there is no real money involved. The only thing forum gold can be traded for are in-game items not real money.
You can use real money to buy forum gold but you don't need to. talk Qaletaqa Hania 18:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Anyway, I won't use it if Anet says "no", and I haven't used it yet because I am not sure if it's against the GW EULA, that's why i'm asking it. talk Qaletaqa Hania 18:32, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
RMT isn't restricted solely to currency; any "real-world commodity" constitutes a breach of EULA. This "forum gold" is most certainly a commodity, and, as it's something that exists outside of Guild Wars, ArenaNet could easily make a case that it's "real-world", for the sake of upholding EULA. So, to answer the original question, it is very bannable.
That being said, they can kittenstomp your account for no reason whatsoever, so I strongly suggest that you don't attempt it. User Raine R.gif Raine - talk 18:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
@Raine: I won't attempt it unless they give me the green light. Also like I said before the use of real money is optional, people who do pay for "forum gold" most likely don't have any items in any game mentioned on that forum that they wanna trade, also you cannot sell the forum gold for real money because if they find out you will be banned from the forum and loose all your forum gold.
That beeing said, I have tons and tons of items in various games that I don't play anymore so I would trade all of those items for forum gold and then trade that forum gold for items in GW, so no real money is involved. So I would just be transferring my wealth in other games to GW, and probably let someone else get richer in another game. Transferring all my fruits of labor of one game to another. Interdimensional trading? I think each game has it's own dimension.
All I have to do now is wait for an official answer. I play safe in every aspect of my life, wich sucks, but atleast it's safe. If it's not safe I'll stay in my bubble (If it's, ok then i'll use it. If it's not ok then i'm not gonna use it. If the game still exists when i'm 50 I still wanna be able to access my account). talk Qaletaqa Hania 20:10, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Actually Raine if it was real world commodities then they wouldn't allow trading gold for character pics. That issue was addressed a week ago I think. That being said though, the only way to know for sure is to hear what Gaile has to say.~>Sins WDBUser The Sins We Die By Sig.png 00:56, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Here is an unofficial response, while I await the opportunity to have an internal discussion about the matter: I cannot personally see how the use of such a site would be allowed. No matter that you do not have to use real-world money, or that real-world money might be once or twice removed from the process, there is a component of real-world money involves. As that is the case, I would not get involved in this site in any way, shape, or form.

I will get an official response and post that when I have it. But my advice in the meantime is to not get involved with any site that has a component that involves real-world money. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 01:21, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Gaile for the response, take your time discussing it. I have this page on watch so...
One thing tho about the next sentence:
"But my advice in the meantime is to not get involved with any site that has a component that involves real-world money."
Does that mean I should stay away from and
Because if i'm correct for the Elite Membership on there is also real-world money involved, same goes for the available Paid Subscriptions on You can trade to on both those websites, you have the option to buy an "upgraded membership status" with real-world money. On d2jsp they just use something else to keep the website/forum up and running, no "upgraded membership" there if i'm correct, just something to trade with inbetween games.
On another note, I think the GW EULA is outdated and lacks many things that should be changed and/or added.
One thing that bothers me is not having an option to sell your account when you are bored with the game, I don't need such an option atm but in the future I might want to. Many not online games I have sold in the past because I was bored of it, I played Magic to (not a video game for those who don't know it) and I stopped playing it because it was to expensive and I then sold all my cards and I would like to have an option like that to do so with my GW account for when or if I get bored with it.
I wish I could make a suggestion for that. It's not an in-game issue, it has to do with RMT, so where do I make that suggestion?
Stuff annoys me from time to time, not anyones fault tho. I just need to see things written down before I can decide or better said let the black on white decide what I can or can't do, I mostly follow the rules unless I disagree, If I disagree then I confront "the people" behind that rule with it and tell them what I think about it and what can be changed, added and/or removed. They'll probably still do whatever they want, but I then would have said what I think about it. talk Qaletaqa Hania 04:06, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I do not see a correlation between paying for some sort of special membership in a forum and selling in-game items for real-world money. The site is doing that through accepting real-world money and turning it into a means of acquiring in-game items.
The selling of game accounts is entirely counterproductive to game developers and to gamers, as well. Think about it: Take the practice to an extreme, and you could have a developer spending many millions of dollars to develop a game, only to sell a single copy, which is then passed along to multiple users over time, at a profit only to the reseller and with no financial support for the developers. Again, that's admittedly a bizarrely extreme example, but it points out that it is only through selling copies of the game -- one user per account -- that a developer derives the money to support that game and to fund future expansions of content, updates, bug fixes, improvements, and the creation of entirely new games.
That is why you do not "own" the account, but are given license to play it by the company. (Just like your ticket to a movie means you may view it but do not own it.) Without the no-resale provision, and without staunch measures against those who engage in the practice, game development would cease. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 16:08, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
The difference between a TCG and an MMORPG is the End-User License Agreement. TCG's don't come with an EULA, at least yet, which is more or less why you're permitted to resell your cards. You had the option before creating your account to accept or decline the EULA, and until you accepted it you had the option to resell the game without worry. I'm not saying I necessarily agree with the practices of many game developers regarding EULA's, but I understand it. (If you dislike the idea of not "owning" your account, I'd strongly suggest reading through a MS Windows EULA or the previous Facebook EULA - they're both quite terrifying, or at least used to be.) ··· Danny Pew Pew 17:20, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
@Gaile: Thank you Gaile, I understand what you are saying, I think about it very differently tho but that's why I wanna make a suggestion about it wich would make both parties happy (Game developers and players), but I do not know where to make such a suggestion. If you can tell me where to make such a suggestion I would be happy, I don't wanna make the suggestion on this wiki tho because it's an idea I once thought out for when I would make a game, but me making a game is probably not gonna happen. The idea can and probably would satisfy alot of people, including the gaming company. It also could create some jobs wich is always a good thing.
If I would have lived closer to ArenaNet I would just come by the office and explain my idea, because I think it's a great idea, but unfortunately I live far away and don't have the money to stop by. It's also the first time I ever thought of goeing to a company with an idea, it's because I think ArenaNet is a company that is original and open minded, and because they could offer and/or give me what I want, wich would not be a job (would be cool tho) and/or money. Blablabla... i'm gonna stop here.
@Danny: I did read the MS Windows EULA a long time ago and I remember I was shocked so yeah, and about Facebook, well let's just say I don't always read the EULA's from every website i'm a member of, I would have to read multiple EULA's on a daily basis. One EULA that also shocked me was the YouTube EULA. talk Qaletaqa Hania 08:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I spoke to the Live Team and to the Support Lead about such sites. First, some policy info:

  1. We do not support these sites, so it is "use at your own risk."
  2. We do action accounts when players trade real world money for in-game items or currency.
  3. We do not action the account of someone who buys forum gold for real-world money outside of the game.
  4. We do action the account of someone who advertises or trades items or accounts from other games within Guild Wars. This would include such things as "Trading GW account for XXX account" or "Rejoining GW. I’ll sell my YYY account for 100 Ectos." or "Buy my ZZZ gold; whisper me."

And before I provide a bit more info, I want to preface it by saying I am not referring to this specific site, but to this kind of site in general. The most important thing you might want to know about the "use at your own risk" comment is that Support sees a lot of complaints about these types of sites. One Support Team member went so far as to say he had never seen one that was (or remained) legitimate. Anyway, as you know, Support cannot assist our players who write about these external sites, but the team is aware of many problems related to the sites. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 17:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Gaile for talking to the Live team and the Support lead, but just to check if I understand correctly.
  1. You will not help if something goes wrong if you use a site of this type. (example: If I get scammed by using the site, then I shouldn't come crying to NCSoft support and/or Arenanet)
  2. We can use it as long as we don't trade in-game items for real world money. If we do we can get banned.
  3. You will not ban a person who buys "forum gold" with real world money and uses that "forum gold" to trade items from GW and/or other games on that site.
  4. We cannot advertise and/or trade accounts and/or items from other games within GW, if we do we can get banned for it. This includes the trading of GW accounts for other game accounts.
If it's correct then it leaves alot of room to play with for both parties, and I can see some loopholes wich I'll think about, i'll ask about it when I think it could be a problem for us (the players) and/or for NCSoft and/or Arenanet.
I'm still not sure if i'll use the website tho, If I would use it, then I would never bother NCSoft and/or Arenanet if I would get scammed because I know it would be my fault. I only trust the website for about 15-50%. That one support member is correct tho, no website and/or any service, real life or virtual, is a 100% legitimate, that's why I never fully trust anyone or anything. I'm 15% weird, 80% Aspergers and 5% or less of something else they call normal :P. talk Qaletaqa Hania 18:57, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Reading that response, Gaile, it sounds like a "don't ask, don't tell" policy, almost. It's slightly confusing. I had a friend a while back who ended up with a week ban because someone (probably a gold-seller who'd mistaken him for someone else, possibly just a very generous person), gave him 100 ecto - no comments, no questions asked, no nothing. Which brings up another good point: how does Support differentiate between extremely generous players or players who may be quitting Guild Wars and gold-sellers? Obviously, I don't expect a direct answer to that, as it's along the same lines of "how does support detect bots?" but I'd love to hear a general explanation if possible. ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:19, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
To clarify my "don't ask, don't tell" comment, I mean that if Support doesn't know you bought forum gold, which they'd be hard-pressed to prove, they won't ban you for using said forum gold to buy in-game items. ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry, Danny, but I don't see how your question about your friend's situation correlates to the question of using a third-party website. And, with respect, I cannot give details on how we differentiate legitimate trades from gold deliveries -- that would be extremely imprudent of us to make public. All I can say is that "false positives" related to RMTs are extremely few, in the overall scope of things. Naturally, if an accidental block is placed in relation to a legitimate trade or a gift, the player should contact Support for further review of the incident. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 19:27, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I wasn't really wondering about my friend's ban. I'm not sure if Support revoked the ban or if he just waited it out - I probably should've used the word "acquaintance" or "friend of a friend" rather than "friend". I'm just wondering if there's any documentation that would assist in proving that you really did just happen to be the lucky recipient of 100 ectos from someone with an offline status. =p Most RMT providers tell you not to talk to the delivery person, and I've heard that many deliver while "offline". I'm just wondering if there'd be any means by which a user might expedite or facilitate the process of getting their account back in the case of a legitimate gift. If there's not, no hard feelings - I'd be willing to bet 100 ecto that no one ever just gives me 100 ecto out of the blue. Haha. ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:17, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Well if I would be banned while using this forum then I would give a link to my profile on that forum so they can view my posts, don't know if it would help tho. I would also ask the mediator and the person I traded with to contact support and ask them to refer to my support issue, because most likely they would be banned to.

If and when I get the oppurtunity I'll setup my own trading forum, wich would not involve any real money, it would involve mediators who are trustworthy. I know some players, wich I helped transfer large amounts of in-game items, that would be suitable to be one. I would also ask Anet and/or NCSoft support to help me keep those mediators to be honest, like supervising those mediators and when or if they scam that they will be banned. I would then also use multiple accounts for donations given by players to help scammed players on the forum. Haven't worked out the idea but it's something I would like to do :). Create an honest, caring and supervised place to trade with the help of Anet and/or NCSoft. If something is missing, try and create it. A man can dream right? :D. talk Qaletaqa Hania 22:12, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Feedback from Chinese Player

would you like to look this Reflected if you have time

Dear Gaile:

If you have time please read Feedback that's from china player,content looks like long。
after Recent several days , I looked some wiki topic,and I had gotten much helping from other wiki's friends 。 after my account was closed, I feel no happy ,but at same time I feel a few Consolation ,because I find wiki really a good place and had gotten help at here.
even my english really not good,but I very very try to do it better。 follow content is china player got really feelings after playing the U.S. servers 's gw。
1 buy cdkey very diffcult.
way a: maybe have foreign friend , buy cdkey ,tell cdkey by tel;
way b: maybe go to U.S. buy by self.
way c: maybe have visa card,or other support pay $ (but most of gamer not the card,to request this card is very complex and need some conditions in china)
way d; maybe buy cdkey from web ,sample: , (only that two company,but Ncsoft Does not endorse it) mycdkey is buy from here,most of us buy at here
2 Play gw also like diffcult ,or full worry some times . (this maybe reference by, The BBS is place that china gw's player Often go to , In china except it no other better place。At here too player like me ,too 045 code error happend ) as I know most of 045 error happend as buy cdkey produce(way d and way c) or other unknow reason。 even these, like me , Before buy the cdkey I had know above those include cdkey not safe (maybe closed), but I buy cdkey (by "way d") ,Just only I like gw 。No way ,no other way ,I no foreign friend 。
3 submit request diffcult。 A: language 。as me , just like this topic ,I don't know whether it really clear express my mean 100% ;B : ofen feel gm never Care out china player ( we china feeling ,maybe reference from above BBS url )
Maybe somebody say :'china player need Necessary to care ? maybe china server was closed as player too little'。but ,in fact ,there have lot of people very like gw in china 。I only give two sample: 1 : lot's of player in server when china server open ,time about 2007,at that time ,every city or town in gw's map, player Overcrowding every place ,this is my feeling at that time。even now U.S. server Not a number of levels ,this is really fact 。 2 : too many people wait gw come back, reference : above bbs or ,I beleive Advocacy and planning error at that time in china ,people not really know what about GW mean (include me at that time), New game ,New model game same need a good way Advocacy a good plan 。all most people treat gw as most of game ,and play way like those game, little know gw more ,add Cultural differences and acclimatized ,must fail
like above these ,it was know by a gw's player, I thinks : as a player had know these, what and how feeling ncsoft and Technology team
really I Little like game ,a online game . I only play few game like: Diablo2 ; never pay for online game(them only add money add time to raise character,pk no skill , only pk Medicine and equipment.) but gw except 。 :gw's pve is very good (movie),story is very good ,I like it . pvp so great ,skill build must use "art" to say。too people loathe way of traditional
I am only the one , one of Million player player 。we are hope gw or gw2 come back fast , let it more fierce(this our china fans original words :让它来得更加猛烈点吧), we always raise our neck to look forward to 。but we need good service at same time,please please don't looks like now (only let our heart cool)
a china gw's player -- User Xpycy sig Ico.GIF xpycy 11:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
As I understand your words, you are concerned about having trouble purchasing copies of Guild Wars in China. (Is that correct?) I will pass along that concern to our International Team and ask if they have any suggestions.
With regard to the future, I do not know what the plans are for Guild Wars 2 as far as a release or support within China. I remain hopeful that you will find it much easier to be and remain a Guild Wars player when Guild Wars 2 is released! -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 22:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
(as an aside, i need to remeber my password to log into Wiki Jaime) From the looks of things, this person was a GW palyer for sometime till the closure of GW in china, one of many according to their description, who now feel let down by not being able to play GW any longer...the discussion of buying GW keys in china was so they could replace their existing closed account, and they seem to find it difficult to play on the US servers. So they are an existing GW player according to what they say up there. :) Just helping clarify, as am not sure you got that from your reply gaile. :) not a new player, but an existing one. :)
Thanks for your help, Jaime. But yes, I did understand these are existing Guild Wars players who are playing or who would like to purchase access keys to continue playing the game, or would (I assume) like to be able to expand what they currently possess. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:37, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Gaile's Special Day

Someone has a birthday coming up soon :) I always remember cuz its 2 days off of mine. I can't recall if its the 6th or the 10th, refresh my memory Gaile? I wanna be the first one to wish u a happy belated birthday :)--Malchior Devenholm 22:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

August 9th according to GWW Birthday list --Dominator Matrix 23:33, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
You're probably thinking of either mine or Sophie Deadbones's birthday on the 10th. Gaile's is on the 9th. -- My Talk Lacky 11:34, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
That's correct. 2 minutes Pacific Time and it'll be my b'day. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 06:58, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
And 3 hours AEST until mine. -- My Talk Lacky 11:25, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


I like it =D -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 19:30, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking "Tabula Rasa?" Ah, ok, then I have your permission to abbreviate your name in the future -- good to know. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 19:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
You know, that phrase rings a bell, but I have no idea what it is. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 20:00, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
A game that died a horrible death and cost NC an unspecified amount of money. Vili 点 User talk:Vili 22:23, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
You can read the future of games???? Quick, do mine! -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 22:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Google it. Vili is saying that the game crashed and burned (which it did). Karate User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png Jesus 22:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Lol I'm not gonna elaborate until someone comes along that gets my joke, I wasn't talking about Tabula Rasa. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 23:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
I think I get it. >.> personn5User Personn5 sig.jpg 23:19, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Well go ahead and tell me what you think. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 00:02, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
You talkin' bout GW? /knows none of NC games cept this and Aion really. personn5User Personn5 sig.jpg 00:16, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
>.> Maybe. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 00:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Horray! I got it right. Do I get a cookie or a point or something? personn5User Personn5 sig.jpg 00:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
It takes more than that to get points in my book lol. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 00:31, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Awww... guess i'll go make my own cookies then. personn5User Personn5 sig.jpg 00:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Quick Color Question

Hi Gaile I have a question on the coloring of your armor. What dye combo did you use to make your armor? It rocks! I made a female Ranger going for Survivor as a Yin-Yang to my LDoA Spike Firemane they are both doning the Momument Armor but I really like the color you use! Appreciate it! Firemane --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User: (talk).

Hi Firemane, I'm sorry I don't remember. I was messing around with dyes a lot one day, and I came up with something that worked well, I felt, on that particular "fabric." I will do some plinking with dye vials when I have something new to dye and I'll let you know. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 22:03, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


It really is :3 Charocles 17:22, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Amazingly so. I would view it again, but this toddler I am babysitting for wont leave me be. >.> Katherinezoltin 21:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Downloaded the HD version, put it on both my computer and laptop so I can watch it whenever I feel the need! --Lady Rhonwyn 07:22, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Pretty darn cool, eh? :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 05:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

General Chat

Removed from New Account Support Article to keep that thread topical
moved from User talk:Gaile Gray/Support Issues

Wait, NC Soft is in Texas? Are they hiring, cause I could use a job XD -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 19:26, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Austin, Texas. I don't know if they are hiring, but you certainly could check the job pages to see! -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:08, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I have a thing washing dishes for a restaurant right now, just starting college and need a job. Would you recommend a minor? My major is set with kinesiology, but maybe I can still pull through, a steady job to support Lia and myself would be great, once I get my BS. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 04:22, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
If you get hired, do me a favor: steal the hard drive with the source code on it and mail it to me in a cooler filled with ice, tomato paste, the hard drive in a static-resistant wrap, and a sign on the side that says "HUMAN HEAD" in messy red ink. I can give you my street address via e-mail. --Jette User Jette awesome.png 05:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
@Jette -- I'm going to ignore tose comments. (The source code is in Washington anyway, silly.)
@TR -- I am rather prejudiced about degrees and areas of study, and I'll be the first to admit it. I don't think anyone can go wrong with English (or their principle language) as, at the least, a minor. I'm not sure how that ties with your career plans, but I think it ties very well with life as a whole. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 06:30, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
You're up late. I haven't decided a minor yet, but I do have French classes. I had 18 hours of college before I finished high school, so after this semester (my first) I will be a sophomore. They offered 30 hours, so I could have started a sophomore, but I declined. Anyway, the moral of the story is, I already had all three of my English classes before high school was up. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 06:34, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
That doesn't mean you couldn't choose to minor in English, though, does it? Hmmmmm? :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 20:31, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
True, but what purpose could it serve? -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 23:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I thought it was okay to reset indent like that? -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 23:17, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Best not, and only when properly notated. And, the thread has been taken totally off topic. I'll fix. Give me five minutes. :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 23:19, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Alrighty ( insert generic smiley here ) -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 23:20, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
No, I seriously mean do not respond until I fix this and move it to another page. Thank you. -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 23:22, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about that, didn't know what you meant. -- Tha Reckoning User Tha Reckoning Sig.png 23:32, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I personally think if NCsoft needs a new HQ for a video game, they should go to Michigan. We have 3 big universities with programmers coming out left and right. That and Michigan could use some more jobs for computer people. I know saying that here probably won't do anything but at least that is what I hope for my state. Anywho, I will probably get a minor in math or psychology or something. I don't even have a clue what my minor is. >.>" Katherinezoltin 02:53, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
They could set up shop in my basement. User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 03:27, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Where would we move the bodies to? :C Vili 点 User talk:Vili 03:33, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
There's still some room in my car's trunk, with the cocaine. User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 03:34, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
By that logic, Illinois, with some 6 universities within two hours of the chicago area, would make a great HQ, too, even though I'd highly recommend staying out of my home state unless you appreciate the idea of being a resident of the only state to incarcerate two consecutive governors. =p Also, I'm a Comp Sci major, and I would strongly suggest not going into Comp Sci unless you enjoy the following: sleep deprivation, trial and error, more trial and error, more sleep deprivation, and reading dozens upon dozens of pages of API and documentation. However, I would recommend an International Business minor or certificate and getting good work experience, even if it means taking jobs that don't pay you anything and expect you to do things that should require at least a few months of training. ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:42, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

The Rabbit Conspiracy

[[5]] Have a look at the section with the same heading, told you I would get it done at some point! Ware' the Rabbits! 0_0 Frozenwind 03:34, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind, but out of respect for one of my buddies, I posted a bit on the discussion page. I can't have you too worried about at least one facet of Rabbit's nature, you see? :) -- Gaile User gaile 2.png 04:00, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
He may not be accountable for being gifted at gambling, but as for his race,well I am very worried.I wonder how many facets your friend has... Frozenwind 04:09, 30 August 2009 (UTC)