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Completed research

Requests for research are for assisting editors in gathering empirical results from in-game research and testing.

These requests have been completed.



Does a Creeping Carp, Scuttle Fish or Irukandji transmit disease to any of the other 2 types of creatures? Please specify which type was diseased, and which type the disease did or did not spread to. Recommend testing in Archipelagos or Rhea's Crater. --Rezyk 00:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

It seems to spread between all three, I can confirm that it spreads from Irukandji to Scuttle Fish and from Creeping Carp to Scuttle Fish. -- Gordon Ecker 03:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
So therefore also between Irukandji and Creeping Carp... Calor Talk 03:24, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Summon Mursaat[edit]

The damage type the summon inflicts is supposed to be Lightning damage. This could be tested by using Iron Mist. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 14:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Tested this with Iron Mist at the Isle of the Nameless. The mursaat deals lightning damage. Tedium 00:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Me too. Tested all 5 EotN summons with Iron Mist and Mark of Troggy. They do as expected; Mursaat lightning, Djinn fire and the rest some other type. Backsword 16:22, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Stonefist Insignia[edit]

Does Stonefist Insignia lengthen the knockdown duration of certain spells like Meteor Shower and Meteor? This could be tested by having a W/E made in PvP with some Radiant Insignias, then fighting a Warrior team in Zaishen Elite/Zaishen Challenge. Calor Talk 02:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Tested. it appears that the stonefist insignia does lengthen the knockdown time for these spells. It should also be noted that when Meteor Shower is casted, only two knockdowns will occur. the lengthened knockdown will pass into when the second knockdown occurs. so they will not be knocked down a second time. hope that made sense.... --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 03:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
It does. Thanks. I'll revert the changes made by the anon to the Stonefist Insignia page and the Meteor Shower page. Calor Talk 03:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Iceblood's Warstaff[edit]

The description states it has HCT 40% chance, though that is unusual as staves normally can only have twice 20% HCT (giving a 32% chance to half casting time and a 4% chance to quarter it). Either this staff's stats are really unique, or that's simply a goof that came up when trying to shorten the description. (Note: That's also duscussed on Guru) —ZerphatalkThe Improver 07:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Description changed, it was a wording error only. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Critical Strikes[edit]

Someone with a pile of consumables to spare could test the energy return for ranks 18, 19 and 20. Backsword 06:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I tested all three ranks. At rank 18 or above you receive 4 (!) energy per critical hit, Proofs in my talk page (And yes, Misspellings and a poor edit job to hide my Character's name but eh... Arty 22:44, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Keymaster of Murakai boss status[edit]

Confirmation is needed about if Keymaster of Murakai is indeed a boss or not. Using Signet of Capture and checking if skills can be captured from him is adviced for this, due to the existance of Boss-like creatures in EotN.--Fighterdoken 21:44, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Just checked this. He did not respond to SoC for me. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 02:20, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Brohn Stonehart name[edit]

Confirmation is needed about Brohn Stonehart's name under english language settings, due to reports showing him with another simmilar name.--Fighterdoken 22:38, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I didn't take any quests before I entered Sorrows Furance. It's Brohn Stoneheart. I'm assuming from the discussion and his unique items that his name is a text bug and should be Stonehart. Tedium 06:42, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Reported text bug. Tedium 06:55, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Damage on GL tie-break[edit]

As per Talk:Guild versus Guild I've tested degeneration and it doesn't count as damage on lord, but I've already made one guildie go through a 28 minute scrimm with me, any chance someone else can test life steal? Misery 08:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Clarified by Izzy. Misery 12:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


The Flameseeker Prophecies, Shiro's Return, Night Falls and Young Heroes of Tyria need reward data. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 04:58, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Also, is there a maximum rank beyond which the Normal Mode version of Night Falls cannot be handed in for Sunspear points? -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 09:14, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Reward data for everything except Night Falls has been filled out. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 04:08, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Breaking lockpicks[edit]

According to the November 13th update notes "Unlucky points given each time you break a lockpick now increase as your chance to retain a lockpick upon use goes up.". How does this work? -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 10:35, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Say that you had a 10% chance to retain the lockpick on one chest and a 50% chance to retain on another. You would be given more unlucky points if you broke the pick on the 50% chance chest than on the 10% one. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User: (talk).
I believe Gordon was asking about the specific formula used to determine how many unlucky points you get, which has since been added to both the Lucky and Lockpick articles, so I'm throwing resolved on this. - Tanetris 18:57, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Activation time increase cap[edit]

What's the stacking cap for multiple activation time increasing effects? -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 01:37, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

It's +150%, confirmed in Augury Rock. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 02:38, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Voltaic Spears[edit]

There have been claims that today's update removed Voltaic Spears from the loot tables for Chests of the Slaver. Has anyone seen one drop from one of the chests since the update? If so, which chest did it drop from? -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 01:53, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Confirmed by Linsey Murdock and John Hargrove to be a hoax in this edit. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 06:03, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Wintersday gift/drop rate[edit]

It has been asked what the drop rate is on these, and it has never been tracked (that I can find), so I created Wintersday Gift/Drop rate to start calculating it. I based the page off the Trick-or-Treat Bag/Drop rate page. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 07:05, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

It should be safe to say the exact values have been found. Variance on 13k items is low. --User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 09:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Strike as One[edit]

Is the pet's "instantaneous movement" a teleport or shadow step? --click moar Mafaraxas 01:01, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Shadowstep. Backsword 02:04, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it's shadowstep. DustScorpion 01:04, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Lion's Arch during Sunspears in Kryta[edit]

Could someone try to access the Lion's Arch explorable during Sunspears in Kryta via the game link feature (F10)? It should link to Lion's Arch (explorable area), in which case we need to add information there. poke | talk 15:51, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

It does link to Lions Arch (explorable area), I will also try to find out what i can about said area. User Tenri My image.jpg Tenri 06:00, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Ok i have done what I can for the page tonight I don't have a lvl 20 character who hasn't been to Nightfall so I can't fill in those lvl's for NPCs or foes. User Tenri My image.jpg Tenri 07:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Don't worry, that is a great start. Thank you ver much :) poke | talk 10:52, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

End game HoM statues[edit]

I would like to know if these are given after every mission in a campaign is finished, or if they are given if the final mission is finished. --Shadowphoenix User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png 17:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I believe after the Title requirement is met, ie; Masters in all Faction Missions. MystiLefemEle 08:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I doubt that. I got my statues way before I got my Protector titles. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 08:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
For Factions and Nightfall (with optional mission paths) it's certainly on completion of the final mission, not all missions. I suspect Prophecies is the same, but I suppose I shold take a char to Hell's after skipping a few just to be certain. --snogratUser Snograt signature.png 14:07, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
I bet it's the final mission. Has anyone a factions or nightfall character lying around that hasn't been ran to Ascalon but has done Hell's? WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 00:24, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
I can confirm that in all 3 campaigns it is only the FINAL mission which needs completed to gain the statue. I know this due to the fact that about 9 months ago their was a mapping bug which allowed one to map to outposts one has never been too if the party leader had been there. I took a lvl 15 char, which i was still onl in old ascalon with, to each of the end missions and completed them with the help of a friend. I then took the character to his HoM and was able to put all 3 statues up. Please note I deleted this character afterwards. -- Salome User salome sig2.png 00:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Good enough for me, Salome - thanks! (Damn, was just collecting run skills to get my derv down to droks too) --snogratUser Snograt signature.png 00:38, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Lucky Aura[edit]

The description frivolously states that you get an advantage from this effect, yet nobody really knows whether it does or not.
Given that this skill has indeed an effect, does it increase the amount of rare drops, lower the weapon requirement, or increase the probability for rare-skin weapons? And then again, what is affected by this skill? Drops in general, regular chests, or possibly even reward chests as well?
Testing this would be quite a mess, however it could possibly be done by doing large amounts of chest runs, and checking the items acquired in relation to those from teammates without the aura. In other words, one would also need to find out the probability for rare-drops and requirement number occurences in general in order to do the comparison.
On the other hand, simply asking Linsey before starting such a huge effort might be worth considering as well... ;) —ZerphatalkThe Improver 21:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

It has no effect. Backsword 12:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
How do you know? I couldn't find anything about the Lucky Aura on Lindsey's talk page. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 10:53, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
I did some testing of my own and did not notice any effect what-so-ever. I am a chest addict, so i checked chests, didn't get higher drop rate of anything of value, nor did the beasts drop anything rare during the time that i was testing. I also had someone with me that was getting pretty much the same thing I was. I believe I tested it for about 1/2 hour. Because of this, I do not believe the Lucky Aura had any effect. Kallisto 06:18, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

"There's Nothing to Fear!"[edit]

It seems that the last year's august update also changed the end healing effect. I did some research and for rank 7...10 values are 52, 55, 57 and 60 (instead the current description has 47, 52, 55 and 60). I don't have a character with rank lower than 7, so here comes my research request so we can update the healing values. What are the values for the end healing effect for sunspear ranks 1..7? DustScorpion 14:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok someone fixed the healing progression, hope it's the right one :) DustScorpion 22:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Detailed drop rate data for the Wintersday Chest[edit]

The Wintersday Chest article could use more drop data. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 02:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

This has obviously gotten what data it will. Backsword 00:37, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Nightfall Challenge Mission rewards[edit]

The Nightfall challange mission articles are missing score-based reward information. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

So far my scores and gold rewards match the formula (2000 * score) / (4 * monthly best) for all three missions. Fahrankelon (record keeper) is updating slower than the others so I checked the webpage for the current scores. I forgot to record the experience, but I will try to get some more data later. Tedium 05:29, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
I gathered some more data and recorded the experience. The rewards seem to follow the fomula (2000 * score) / (2 * monthly best). Tedium 01:58, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Created Template:Nightfall challenge mission reward and added it to the challenge mission pages. Tedium 02:13, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Attributes of the new summons[edit]

It should be easy to determine the attributes for the Gaki and Ooze, the others would be more complicated. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 02:10, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I've filled out the level 20 Ooze attributes. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 02:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Have been filled in. Backsword 22:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Critical hits[edit]

What effect does target level have on critical hit rate? What about attacker level? What effect, if any, does the target's armour rating have on critical hit rate? How do critical hit rate modifying skills stack? What about Critical Strikes? Are pet critical hits affected by Beast Mastery? Are minion critical hits affected by Death Magic? Are wand and staff critical hits affected by their attributes? -- Gordon Ecker 02:11, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Izzy posted the formula. Backsword 22:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Summoned Fire Imps[edit]

Is it possible to death level charr in presearing using only the summoned fire imp? Seeing as you can only use one every hour it might just be insanity to try. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 14:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Can't prevent a level 19 imp from killing Charr. Backsword 10:20, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

"Show me the money!"[edit]

How does this inscription interact with weapons' values? I created a subpage on Inscription/Research. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:18, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Animal companion damage types[edit]

Yes Resolved11:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

The above animals need their damage types tested. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 05:52, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I have almost all the animals and would be willing to test them if you can tell me how to tell what damage type they do. Kallisto 07:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

moved from #Pet damage types

The following pets need their damage types determined:

-- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 02:36, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

These were that I have observed; Alb.Rat/BlackMoa/Jingle/PolarBear/TigerMystiLefemEle 09:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I forgot that I already posted this. I've merged the two topics. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 04:18, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm marking this as resolved due to the Zaishen Menagerie, however I'm starting another request based on pets with multiple damage types. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 11:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Gwen (Prophecies)#Notes on leveling up[edit]

Yes ResolvedTennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 09:29, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

In the next to last item, it says "if you bring her with you often enough, she will begin to level up and will start to heal you for larger amounts of hp."  As I noted on the associated discussion page, I have not been able to make that happen.  Could someone check this please.      mtew 05:07, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I remember something that she will heal you better if you give her more flowers - but have no source for that either. poke | talk 15:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
I've heard the flowers thing, but nothing about her leveling up. calor (talk) 21:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
I should have checked this earlier: this is part of a block added 2008-02-09T18:57:54 by Backsword.  Maybe he has more information.  As for giving her flowers, I have given her a large fraction of the flowers I came across up to level 11 with no effect on the amount of healing.      mtew 02:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
I didn't add that, I was just moving stuff around. Personally, I doubt there is any truth to it, given tghe special code that would need to be added. Backsword 12:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
First, thank you for looking into this.  I will look at even older versions of that article.  If you can remember which other article it came from, it would help.  While the part about extra code is a good point, the fact that she follows you around and provides healing when needed without becoming a party member indicates that there is extra AI code specifically for her.  The question is how extensive is it?      mtew 13:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Long time ago. Don't remeber the details. Possibly part of Santax' article split. If he were still around, you could ask him. Backsword 23:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't her level reset every time you reentered the zone to get her in the first place? It's a none-peristant game world, seems odd to make her the only persistant thing in the whole game. -- Salome User salome sig2.png 00:39, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
However there are a number of persistent things about Gwen: her flute, her cape and if she is following you.  With at least that much persistent content, there could be any of a number of other persistent attributes.  Either someone has to see her level up or simeone with enough credibility to be believable (ArenaNet? NCsoft?) has to say 'it ain't so'.  However, there has been enough time for any positive reports to come in to conclude that the accuracy of this myth is very questionable.     mtew 18:44, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I am prepared to say that Gwen does not level. In pre-Searing, with Gwen accompanying, animated minions leveled from L1-L2 while Gwen did not. (This is a much easier test than using DL.) Arguably, Gwen might not get experience unless she was healing the main character, so she might require 5 times as many kills as the minions. Even if her experience gains are persistent, it's easy enough to get her to zone with you 5 times...and still she doesn't level.

So, even if Gwen can level, for all practical purposes, no one playing the game will be able to take advantage of it. And, therefore, I think we can put this particular research puppy to bed.   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 04:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Agree MystiLefemEle 08:19, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Pet tier evolution costs[edit]

Yes ResolvedUser Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:52, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Could someone check these? At tier 5, the next tier costs 3 Silver Zaishen Coins and 100 gold or 2,000 Balthazar Faction. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 05:54, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

And 3 Silver Zaishen Coints plus 100 gold or 2,000 Balthazar Faction to go from tier 6 to tier 7. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 05:57, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
1k faction or 1 SZC + 100g for tier 1 → tier 2. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 11:05, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Unlocking tier 5 costs 2SZC + 100g or 1,500 faction, only tiers 3 and 4 are still needed. I've added the information to the Helena (Zaishen Keeper) article. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 01:00, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
MadHatters has filled in the missing costs in the article, marking as resoled. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:52, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Pets with multiple damage types[edit]

Yes Resolved23:24, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

How does this work? According to Silavor, the Zaishen Naturalist, the pets fit into the following groups:

  • Always piercing: black widow, dune lizard
  • Always slashing: black bear, hyena, jahai rat, jingle Bear, lion, lioness, lurker, lynx, melandru's stalker, polar bear, reef lurker, white tiger, white wolf, wolf
  • Blunt while unevolved, slashing while evolved: warthog
  • Piercing by default, slashing if aggressive (and dire?): raven, white moa
  • Piercing by default, can be trained to do slashing under unspecified circumstances: albino rat, crocodile, iguana, white crab
  • Slashing when unevolved, piercing when evolved: flamingo, phoenix
  • Slashing default, can be trained to do piercing under unspecified circumstances: crane, moa bird
  • Slashing default, trainable for other unspecified damage types: mountain eagle
  • Varies with evolution, details unclear: Rainbow Phoenix
  • Unspecified: black moa, moss spider

Everything except the first two categories needs testing. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 11:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

What's the best way to test this out? --User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 11:20, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
GvG scrimmages with +10 vs each type of damage shields. Unfortunately there are no fixed damage pet attacks so you have to take a few hits or watch for crits. Misery 11:28, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Ah right.. average the minimum, maximum and average damage over 100 hits and see what the effect is. I'd love to know the results of the damage reduction too - not just the type. --User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 11:34, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
IMO it would be better to test it on a caster with a focus item and use the minimum damage to keep critical hits from getting in the way. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 07:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Actually it's pretty easy to trigger critical hits, just let them hit your back when you are running. As pets have an innate speed boost, most if not all hits by a pet on a running target should be criticals. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 15:35, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
If i am not mistaken pet crits don't always use max dmg like weapon crits so even then testing wouldnt be all that easy. User Tenri My image.jpg Tenri 21:06, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Ah, allright, wasn't aware of that, ignore my comment please :D WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 23:55, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
So, I just noticed this topic thread and I thought I'd tell you guys that I'm already testing this. See Talk:Animal_companion#Update_pet_damage_type for details. Although, if any of them actually do blunt damage, that will have to be tested seperately. Blood Red Giant 16:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
This has been completed; although, I do not know how to mark it as such. Blood Red Giant 22:46, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Use {{resolved|~~~~~}}--User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 23:24, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Dragon Festival missions[edit]

The Dragon Festival version of The Fury needs the skills filled out. Additionally, the Dragon Festival versions of The Fury and The Darkness need their boss status and hard mode levels checked. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 01:51, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Southern Shiverpeak Grawl[edit]

Are they weak against lightning damage? [1] Eloc 20:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Its relatively inconclusive, but running a basic fire build on my ele did about the same as an air build. I don't see much of a difference. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 19:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Estimated armor
vs. Grawl (Ascalon) Grawl Ulodyte Grawl (Shiverpeaks) Grawl Crone
Elemental damage (expected) 32 9 86 66
Cold 34 12 86 66
Earth 34 12 86 66
Fire 34 12 86 66
Lightning 34 12 66 46
Damage data
Skill Base damage vs. Grawl (Ascalon) vs. Grawl Ulodyte vs. Grawl (Shiverpeaks) vs. Grawl Crone
Vapor Blade @ 16 Water Magic 143 cold 224 329 91 129
Dragon's Stomp @ 16 Earth Magic 105 earth 165 241 67 95
Rodgort's Invocation @ 16 Fire Magic 127 fire 199 292 81 114
Lightning Surge @ 16 Air Magic 106 lightning 166 244 96 135
I just did some testing. Southern Shiverpeaks Grawl have 20 less armor vs. lightning damage, Ascalon Grawl have no elemental vulneribility. I didn't test Charr Homelands Grawl since they're out of the way. I don't think it belongs in the Glimmering Mark article, however I do think it's relevant to the Grawl and lightning damage articles, as well as the individual monster articles. -- Gordon Ecker 01:59, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
So shall we remove the note from the article then? — Eloc 02:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Done. -- Gordon Ecker 04:24, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
How do the Barbed Grawl react? Backsword 00:40, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Already noted on the Grawl, Lightning damage, and the individual Southern Shiverpeak Grawl articles based on information from Guild Wars Wiki:Projects/Armor rating#Grawl. --Silver Edge 03:25, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Shield requirements[edit]

I'm wondering if what is posted at Talk:Shield#It's not a HALF! is true and if it is then the Shield and Requirement articles should be corrected. --Silver Edge 22:27, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Hard mode[edit]

According to Hard mode#Differences from normal mode, enemies in Hard mode have "33-50% faster casting, movement, and attack speed as well as raised levels." Do the Hard mode enemies also activate skills (such as signets, preparations, traps) 33-50% faster or does that bonus only affect their spells? --Silver Edge 22:27, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Celestial Haste[edit]

The description says "For 15 seconds, your entire party has 50% fast casting and all skills recharge 25% faster."
What does that mean? Having reached 10 of 20 possible ranks in fast casting, or when i am able to cast my spells 50% faster - which would relate to 15 ranks in fast casting?
There is also a lacking mention of faster signet casting - that wasn't something fc could do when this skill was born. Maybe others do not actually have fast casting, and the description simply wants to say that your party casts spells 50% faster instead... —ZerphatalkThe Improver 15:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok, i tried it out with my mesmer. I had 0 Fast Casting, used the skill, and still had 0 Fast Casting. I activated Healing Signet under the effects of Celestial Haste and could not notice any faster casting. So i suppose the description is simply bad, and wants to express "For 15 seconds, your entire party casts spells 50% faster and all skills recharge 25% faster." —ZerphatalkThe Improver 13:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
The description is ambiguous. 50% fast casting means that your fast casting is cut in half, which is not at all hasty. More likely, the intent was +50% fast casting (or more accurately 150% fast casting). In either case, the 0 Fast Casting would be unaffected because 0 * 0.5 = 0 and 0 * 1.5 = 0. To really test this you would have to put your FC at 4. If the skill works as implied, then you should be casting as if your FC was at 6. --Ronduwil 17:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Does it apply only to spells, or all skills? poke | talk 12:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I had the attribute/skills panel open when using the skill and didn't see an increased fast casting attribute once i tried it with more than 0 fast casting as far as i can remember.
As well, i tried using signets while this skill was active and couldn't notice a decreased casting time. As i said, i strongly suppose "fast casting" is only a bad description for "casts spells 50% faster" —ZerphatalkThe Improver 19:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
If your "entire party" has 50% fast casting this could all be cleared up by taking someone who wasn't a mesmer with you and seeing if they cast spells faster. Misery 11:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
It shouldn't matter if your fast casting is 0, unless this is even more ambiguously implied to mean half of the maximum Fast Casting, in which case this just got a whole lot dumber. (I doubt it got a whole lot dumber.) I tested with 0 FC and got the same results as Zerpha. HCT of only spells. I'll try out with 12 fast casting and see what happens then. -- 22:03, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Tested with 12 FC (according to the Fast Casting page, about half cast time) and got ~1/4s cast time for 1 second spells. We proved in the first test that it doesn't take your FC and multiply it *1.5, and in the second we found that it doesn't increase your actual fast casting attribute bonus: it would have to be rank...well it's pretty high. I'd call this case closed, but feel free to prove me wrong; I certainly didn't time anything. -- 22:18, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Charr or not?[edit]

Someone with a Charrslayer weapons could use Wild Blow or other steady damage skill to attack these enemies to determine if they are affected:

Tested Charr Effigy on CoF-HM with Candy Cane Bow (doing 2 damage) and Ebon Battle Standard of Honor at r8 (doing +13 damage for a total of 15). Not charr according to the test.--Fighterdoken 07:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Tested Charr Hunter Beast using Rebel Yell, confirmed not charr. ST47 22:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if the charr hero and henchmen are also affected by these weapons. --User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 10:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
In PvE we have no way of knowing. In PvP (skirmish) you can't test it anymore but I think it would have no effect because all heroes are humans in PvP because of disease RhoninUser Rhonin Soren sig.jpgSoren 21:25, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Correct on both counts. -- Kyoshi User Kyoshi sig2.png 03:28, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Dajkah Inlet[edit]

Yes ResolvedArticles much more developed than at the time of question

This article is missing quite a bit of additional information.

-- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Ice Golems, Siege Ice Golems and Stone Summit Badges[edit]

Do these still drop Stone Summit Badges, or did they stop when they started dropping Icy Lodestones? -- Gordon Ecker 03:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Ice Golems do not - having gotten 7 icy lodestones, and no badges. ST47 23:14, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I believe the badges are still dropping, will confirm next time I go in MystiLefemEle 08:14, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
They're not dropping Bagdes anymore. But Lodestones. Very confusing as there is no collector for Lodestone and their only worth 3 gold.
Siege drop.JPG
~ KurdUser Kurd sig.png 12:56, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Duncan's Defense[edit]

Confirmation is required about this skill reflecting or not the damage from Backfire, Spoil Victor, Spiteful Spirit and Pain Inverter.--Fighterdoken 05:13, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

The last time I fought him, damage from Pain Inverter and health loss from Spoil Victor didn't get reflected back. I'm not sure about the other skills. -- Gordon Ecker 06:41, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Me and a friend fought him a few days back, we had 2 heroes putting hexes on him (on Normal Mode, btw) and they were constantly receiving damage, and my friend said he was taking damage (and he didnt do any except with Pain Inverter). Think that proves that it does recoil hex damage now.. 19:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Damage calculation: percentile damage reduction and damage multipliers[edit]

How do percentile damage reduction and damage multipliers fit into the order of operation for damage calculation? I suspect they take effect at some point before additive and subtractive damage modifiers. -- Gordon Ecker 00:45, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Testing with Frezy, the Lightbringer buff and Mending against Heralds of Nightmares using Shatter Enchantment confirms that subtractive damage modifiers take effect after damage multipliers. I'm marking this as resolved since determining whether multipliers take place before, during or after the armour effect may not be testable depending on when rounding is done. -- Gordon Ecker 02:28, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Actually there's still an unresolved issue. Is bonus damage from attack skills calculated before or after damage multipliers? -- Gordon Ecker 02:32, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Order_of_damage_modifiers is up and like 95% complete. ~Shard User Shard Sig Icon.png 11:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Golems' attribute levels in Temple of the Ages (explorable area)[edit]

What are the Golems' different attributes set in Temple of the Ages (explorable area) during Deactivating R.O.X.. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 22:43, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I've listed those that can be directly derived from damage. Others have randomness or are not displayed. Backsword 03:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Cathedral of Flames[edit]

Can someone test the second to last bug noted on the Cathedral of Flames page? Either its a bug or a coincidential Life Sheath. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 16:21, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I did some testing of my own. I found nothing of the sort on these charr groups. I had one guildie watching for menders and life sheath while I alternated attacks between all charr with another guildie. 5 run throughs with this method showed no sign of the bug. I'm going to remove that note from the Cathedral of Flames page until further proof is given. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 18:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

"Find Their Weakness!"[edit]

Are all deep wounds caused by this skill self-triggering? Description of effect and method of testing can be found here. Recommend using Keen Chop at zero axe mastery on a low health target to test. Misery 10:29, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I tested your thing out with Keen Chop and "Find Their Weakness!", but I don't quite understand what you mean by self-triggering. — Eloc 15:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
If a deep wound reduces someones damage to less than 0 health they will not die until they take some damage, i.e. until the deep wound is triggered, that is why it is common in PvP to put a fast activating attack after a deep wound causing skill. A self triggering deep wound will kill the target. Misery 12:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Guild hall[edit]

NPC positions and number counts need to be updated for all guild halls since update. Ideally maps such as for Frozen Isle should be made, but current information is likely incorrect, although I haven't had a chance to check in game yet. Only way to do this is scrimmages, matches or observation mode. Is there an update tag or something that can be put on the page to indicate that current information is out of date? I think all of those articles are out of date and I will probably start updating them today, but a tag would help me remember which ones I have fixed so far, otherwise I will just stick with a stub tag. Misery 08:43, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't think we have any such template, but I've tagged all the guild hall pages with "{{notice|This page contains information which may be outdated after the [[Game updates/20081009|October 9th, 2008 update]].}}". -- Gordon Ecker 09:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Actually we do, I've replaced all the notices with {{outdated info}}. -- Gordon Ecker 09:58, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Casses Flameweb[edit]

While reading the talk pages, and searching for the skill this boss carries I found that Casses Flameweb doesn't appear at the point that he's shown on the map... the second time I played the mission, I went a little farther and found him here: . So, I guess I'm wondering... does he in spawn all the time at different places or was the spawn point changed, etc... Chrono 21:36, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

As far as I know, all prophecies bosses (most, at least) have randomized spawn points. So this could have been one of those instances. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 21:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Are you talking about maps like this?
Ring of Fire Mursaat Map.jpg
Don't they only spawn like that if they share spawnpoints with other bosses of the same creature type? There aren't any other Lava Spitter bosses in the Ring of Fire mission. Chrono 21:53, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't think its limited to creature types, rather any boss thats in the area. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 23:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Perdition Rock bosses map.jpg
Actually it usually is based on species. For an examle, see the map of Perdition Rock to the right. Many areas in Prophecies have sets of boss spawn points which share a boss pool. Each spawn point can only have a single boss, and each boss can only spawn once. Often, all the bosses in the same pool belong to the same species, but that isn't always the case, for example Ettin and Hydra bosses in Perdition Rock share a pool. Sometimes there are two spawn points right next to eachother, for example each of the Ring of Fire Islands missions has six Mursaat / Jade boss spawn points arranged into three pairs, and Perdition Rock has Phantom boss spawn points right next to the Cursed boss spawn points. Sometimes an area has more than one boss pool for the same species, this is fairly common in Sorrow's Furnace. -- Gordon Ecker 02:51, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Casses Flameweb is one of the very few mostly stable bosses in Prophecies. Tested during many multiple runs of Perdition Rock on 5 Dec 2008(which, not coincidentally, also involved skill farming); Casses showed up in the same spot each and every time except once, when he showed up roughly 20 paces forward. --Trailsong 03:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Hmm... well, not sure if this ever got resolved, however 2 other people reported finding him at the location I posted... See: (I found him here ). I'll probably edit the image to reflect the two points regardless... Chrono 18:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Stun on Critical Hit[edit]

Which giants and wurms have this skill? Which other monsters have it besides Fungal Wallows, Rot Wallows and Abyssals? -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 06:43, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Stone Reaper do. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 10:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Temple Guardians appear to. --Jette User Jette awesome.png 10:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Hill Giants do. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 19:19, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Holding Canthan Outpost with Faction[edit]

There isn't any clear data on how an Alliance can buy/hold a town and what extras they recieve (fireworks, lockpicks,..). --User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 10:13, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Town/Outpost Kurzick.png Luxon.png Fireworks
House Zu Heltzer 1 - Yes
Altrumm Ruins (outpost) 2 - Yes
Amatz Basin (outpost) 3 - Yes
Tanglewood Copse 4 15 Yes
Saint Anjeka's Shrine 5 14 Yes
Lutgardis Conservatory 6 13 No
Brauer Academy 7 12 No
Vasburg Armory 8 11 No
Durheim Archives 9 10 No
Harvest Temple 10 9 No
Seafarer's Rest 11 8 No
Leviathan Pits 12 7 No
Eredon Terrace 13 6 No
Bai Paasu Reach 14 5 Yes
Breaker Hollow 15 4 Yes
The Aurios Mines (outpost) - 3 Yes
Zos Shivros Channel (outpost) - 2 Yes
Cavalon - 1 Yes
As far as I know, outpost control is heavily related to Alliance Battles and the Kurzick/Luxon border shift, as well as Guild/Alliance faction. See, outpost control is determined by how many faction your Alliance has with the Luxons or Kurzicks. Faction can be donated to your Guild (and thereby to your Alliance), and each night at a set time (though I do not know which) all Guilds' faction decreases by 10%.
To control an outpost, your Alliance has to have quite a decent amount of faction with the Luxons or Kurzicks. Outpost control is determined by the "rank" your Alliance has in the faction "ladder", for lack of a better word. If your Alliance is the one with the most Kurzick faction, your Alliance will be granted control over HzH. If there are two Alliances who have more faction then yours, your Alliance will control the Amatz Basin. See the table at the right.
One tricky thing is the Border shift. See, for both sides, control of outpost 4 to 15 is determined both by Alliance faction and the state of the war between the Kurzicks and Luxons, the Alliance Battles. If I remember correctly, the Kurzick/Luxon border is updated each three hours (though this might be incorrect. Research needed). With it, both the map in which Alliance Battles take place, but also which side controls which outposts changes. The first three outposts (Towns and Mission Outposts, actually) of each side can never be claimed by the other side.
In other words, as I am writing this, the Kurzicks are kicking major ass in AB. The border has been pushed way up North, and some Kurzick Alliance now owns Bai Paasu Reach with about 9.5m faction. Breaker Hollow is still owned by a Luxon Alliance, with 26m faction. Bad luck for all those Luxon Alliances who worked so hard to archieve ~20m faction. Their outpost got conquered by the Kurzicks.
Outpost control is not as dynamic as it seems though. As the border changes (presumably) every 3 hours, so does outpost control. I remember one day, when the leading alliance TLS, who had owned HzH for about 6 months, was overthrown by the CAT alliance. CAT members simultaneously donated about 200k faction, and passed TLS in faction. They did not own HzH for the next hour though, as they had to wait for the next border shift before town control was updated.
Of the benefits that come with owning an outpost, I am not entirely sure. Some outposts have a fireworks master, see the table. Of course members from the alliance owning HzH and Cavalon have free access to Urgoz and the Deep, respectively. Each outpost also comes with a merchant, where you can buy any item, including salvage kits, ID kits and lock picks for 80% of their normal price. This means alliances who control an outpost can buy lockpicks for 1200g, and ID kits for 80 gold. Hence why people want to own outposts. It looks awesome, but you can also buy lockpics for 1200g and power trade them for 1250g or more. If I remember correctly, that is. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 16:24, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Wow, that's quite the explanation! Thank you for all of this. We'll wikify the information and research some of the finer details. The 10% drop in faction is around 04 AM (GMT) if I recall correctly. All that has to be determined is the exact benefits of owning a town and the exact influence from AB battles (or other competitive missions) to this border. I'm pretty sure the Jade Quarry and Fort Aspenwood have something to do with at least a small part of the border. --User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 16:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
As far as I know it is just AB, though it's been a while since I was into faction farming, and back then nobody ever did those missions. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 17:06, 8 January 2009 (UTC) Ah, by the way, I just found out, according to the Kurzick Merchant and Luxon Merchant articles, the discount is indeed 20% :) WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 17:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
My guild has just joined an alliance with a fairly decent amount of factions, and I expect us to start holding towns soon. I will keep you posted if I find out any more. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 01:29, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
The 10% deduction occurs at 0:00 GMT. Faction Alliances refer to it as "tax time". :P WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 21:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that be about right. Considering it would be 4pm Pacific Time. Thx Why for the input.. MystiLefemEle 10:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
I've updated both the Alliance article and Kurzick-Luxon border. The problem now is that there is information about town control on both articles, and both articles host different information. Would it be easier to merge the two bits of information as a separate page? (Terra Xin 14:14, 23 March 2009 (UTC))
I would suggest creating a mini page and including it in both. That way if there are updates to how Town control works, it gets updated in one place and stays consistent on both. (the way the collector information is done etc.) --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 04:12, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Random generation of explorable areas[edit]

As far as I know, the wiki lacks an article about how drops, chests and monster patrols and so on in explorable areas are generated. As far as I know certain elements of explorable areas are set the instant you enter the explorable area. I found a rumor like this on gwguru (iirc) and me and my sister tested it by entering the same explorable area on the exact same time. After a few unsuccessful tries, we managed to enter synchronisedly, and while clearing the area (me and my sister were farming Fahranur with a 330-Rt and a 55SoJ-Mo, respectively) we noticed that between our versions of the area, each mob consisted of the same monsters doing the same things. Also, each goldie that dropped that run and the consequent synched runs, dropped from the same monster with the (exact!) same stats for the other player as well. So it seems monsters and goldies are set the moment you enter an explorable area.

The purple items were a different story though. Of the purples that dropped, half had the same stats, and the other half seemed unrelated. Also, chest locations and drops didn't match, nor did gold, blues and whites.

I'll try to dig up a couple of screenshots of those runs. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 22:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I heard that same rumor too a while back, and saw some absolutely incredible screenshots (the two brothers had emptied their inventories from a Fahranur run in HM side by side (with space in between). The items were exactly identical, save for a single trophy item or two. They then moused over the stats for each. Identical. If we did document this, we'd need to run dozens of trials in-game, as synchronizing in-game is very difficult. We'd also need to ask the designers more than a few questions about how that mechanism works. calor (talk) 02:18, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
You're probably thinking about this thread on guru? Pretty amazing stuff really. Did a bunch of synced runs myself when I saw this, tried to test the effect of kill-rate and heroes presence on drops...I should have the screens on a disc somewhere if anyone's interested (never did get around to uploading them on the guru thread).Nate User talk:Nate Alluran 00:42, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
It makes sense that the monsters and their drops are created as the instance is, probably based on a random seed using the time the instance was created (so two instances created at the same time would be identical). Chests spawned differently, which is weird, but the drops being different is expected, unless you opened the chests at the exact same time. ~Shard User Shard Sig Icon.png 03:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Mysterious Summoning Stone[edit]

Most of the unique summons still need articles, and the summon list may not be complete. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 10:47, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Pet Locations[edit]

Considering the new pokémon feature, it would be a great help for pet collectors if we could map out the (easiest) locations to obtain the pets. Also we could map out the menagerie and add where you can find each type of pet in the new area. --User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 11:18, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I've added some location information to some of the articles, and tagged some of them as needing maps. -- User Gordon Ecker sig.png Gordon Ecker (talk) 07:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
It looks like these are all filled in now, I think. Unless maybe someone can find a better location for the Hyena, though I know I haven't. --Jenosavel aka That Pet Lady 21:31, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Hall of Monuments and the maxed titles rank[edit]

Calling out to all those with Maxed titles rank of tier 4 and more. Could you screenshot or describe your Honor monument's light effect? This is to confirm whether or not this image is still accurate. See Talk:Maxed titles rank#Ray of Light. -- User Sig.png 13:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Its been stated that you do not need to fill ALL the monuments. There's a screenshot of someone with r1 people know me, a wild rainbow phoenix, 2 destroyer weapons and 3 or so armours on the HoM talk page --User Karasu sig.png Karasu (talk) 09:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
File:User Snograt Tier 5.JPG --snogratUser Snograt signature.png 11:19, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Aftercast delay[edit]

Aftercast delay has a significant impact on spellcasters (and perhaps others), but it seems that either it is not well understood or not well documented. The information in our article is apparently out of date; the talk page includes untested claims about the effects.

  • Does aftercast delay (ACD) apply to all skills with a invocation time (aka casting time)? If not, are there rules of thumb to identify all the exceptions?
  • Is ACD consistent at 0.75s (as ANet intended)? Or do some skills still retain non-standard ACDs?
  • Is ACD consistent for PvE/PvP? Is it consistent across split skills?
  • Is there anything in-game that shortens/lengthens ACD? Fast Casting, consumables, spirits, shouts?

When posting results, please describe how you performed your tests, so that (a) others might follow in your footsteps and (b) people can critique the methodology. Thanks!   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 09:25, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Pretty sure most of this is well known. ACD is inconsistent. There are some skills which have no aftercast delay if activated during another skill's activation but have aftercast delay if activated while doing nothing (can't remember which skills now). Rule of thumb would be that everything that you cannot do during another activation has ACD, except attack skills. Ranger interrupts have an aftercast delay of 1.25 seconds. All other aftercast delays are 0.75 seconds. Fast casting doesn't shorten it. Nothing shortens it. It is consistent in PvP and PvE. It is consistent for split skills. I have no sources I can cite, I have no research methods. Most of the inconsistencies come for skills with the type "skill". You'll have to test them all individually under different circumstances if you want to know which ones are weird. Strange anomaly is Shadow Steps, they generally have aftercasts but iirc the defensive shadow steps (Return, Death's Retreat etc) have no aftercast and Shadow Fang has no aftercast, but they may have fixed that last one in an update, I forget. Misery 09:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
So, that strikes me as previously well understood, but not recently tested. All of the information stated above sounds like what was known before ANet made changes to ACD and we have simply assumed the only changes made were in the release notes. Since those notes were ambiguous at best, I guess I no longer trust that assumption. It doesn't help that ANet periodically adjusts more (or sometimes less) than intended, e.g. some PvP skill changes that also affected like-named PvE skills.
I'm willing to accept that we understand the mechanics. I'm also willing to accept w/o further validation that things are consistent in PvE/PvP and that Fast Casting has no impact. I'm 90% certain that any testing will show that nothing reduces ACD.
On the other hand, ANet has been tinkering with ACD: Shadow Fang unbugged, Wastrel's Collapse unbugged, PBAoE adjustments (but not whirlwind). So, I'm not ready to concede that we fully understand to which skills ANet has applied ACD. On the other hand, lots of peeps have played this game a lot more than I, so I would be happy to see the Aftercast delay article updated so that the stub and out-of-date tags can be removed.   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 21:34, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Ok, so far as I understand, all you want tested are that all shadow steps now have ACD (which only really requires testing Shadow Fang was actually fixed), except defensive ones (I haven't tested all of these), and that all PBAoE has normal aftercast instead of its previously extended aftercast? I believe Whirlwind never had extended aftercast. Testing every skill in the game is not viable. Misery 18:39, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm basing my cynicism on two points: (1) we know that ANet goofs on these types of small details (not frequently, but not approaching zero either). (2) There's a lot less data posted on ACD than there is on other topics (salvage conversion rates, attack speeds, HM/boss skill boosts, etc.). So, I think it's more likely that we would miss inconsistencies for this. Of course, I don't expect a single wikian (or even 20) to test all the hundreds of skills in the game. I do think it's reasonable that we spot check a bunch of skills. I also think we should ask folks to post their general observations; better that we have some some non-systematic data than our current almost no data.
On the other hand, if others think that I'm overly-pessimistic, then let's remove the out-of-date tags from the article (and make any necessary updates).   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 19:35, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

On a more specific note, I was tinkering with a new ele, and wondered how noticable the ACD was on Stone Daggers. If someone checks this please let me know --Even If They Tried

Healing Burst[edit]

Yes ResolvedYes, it triggers on the aoe heal.

Does Scourge Healing (and/or Soul Bind) trigger on the health gain provided by Healing Burst to party members in the area? –~=Ϛρѧякγ AHHH! (τѧιк) ←♥– 23:51, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Specifically if one of the party members in earshot is hexed, but the actual target of H'Burst is not.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 00:10, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Well of Blood[edit]

Yes ResolvedNo. It does stack with other types of well though.

Does it stack with Well of Blood? Test is straightforward. — Raine Valen User Raine R.gif 16:19, 30 Oct 2010 (UTC)

Do duplicate wells stack, you mean? Yeah, easy test. I'll take a look. -- ķ̌yǾshĺ User Kyoshi sig.png 03:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Nope. -- ķ̌yǾshĺ User Kyoshi sig.png 03:45, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! — Raine Valen User Raine R.gif 16:00, 31 Oct 2010 (UTC)

Isaiah's Balance[edit]

Hi, I'm looking to derive the current formula used by Guild Wars to determine energy cost when multiple modifiers are in effect. I've tinkered with all of the relevant player skills, Expertise, and Chimera of Intensity. What I'm missing now is how Isaiah's Balance interacts with other modifiers. For example, does expertise reduce the cost of Ranger skills while under the effect of Isaiah's Balance? Does Quickening Zephyr increase the cost of skills while under the effect of Isaiah's Balance? Does Energizing Wind reduce the cost of skills while under the effects of Isaiah's Balance?
For those interested, the present formula is actually significantly different from the one used when Guild Wars was first released. The original calculations were based on the recency in which the effects were applied to a character, beginning with the oldest. See [2] for a summary of the experimentation from then. The present formula appears to be:
If BaseEnergyCost * (1 - ModifiersA) > 10 and EnergizingWind = True, then ActualEnergyCost = 10 * (1 - Expertise)
Else ActualEnergyCost = BaseEnergyCost * (1 - ModifiersA) * (1 - Expertise)
  • ModifiersA = Attuned was Songkai + Renewing Memories + Chimera of Intensity + "Kilroy Stonekin" - Quickening Zephyr, as applicable
This would explain the present bug with Quickening Zephyr and Energizing Wind (see Feedback:Bug reports/Skill bugs), in which the increase from Quickening Zephyr appears to be lost with 25 energy cost skills, normally. It actually shows up again when other modifiers stack sufficiently to bring the cost below 10 before expertise. MA Anathe 04:08, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Fort Aspenwood[edit]

Yes ResolvedYes they did, and it has been fixed.

See Talk:Fort Aspenwood#Do NPCs use the PvP version of their skills? --Silver Edge 07:37, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Henchmen weaponry[edit]

As terrible it sounds, this is actually the first time I think of Henchmen weaponry and while vanquishing Old Ascalon I noticed Alesia with a Deadly Cesta, and henchmen main pages do not display weaponry. What is this monk doing with a Death Magic wand and without any off-hand? Does this affect her performance? Check this:

User Yoshida Keiji Alesia.jpg

User Yoshida Keiji Signature.jpg Yoshida Keiji talk 14:42, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Canthan starter wands all have this appearance I think? User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 14:49, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Many NPCs don't display a focus, the Ritualist PvP henchman is another example. We've been told before that henchmen use plain white weapons, and on a focus that just means +energy, so maybe instead of fiddling with two weapons, they just change their base energy. The Prima guide for Prophecies has some info on henchman damage that I recorded on the bottom of this page. What does the projectile that comes out of her wand look like? Manifold User Manifold Neptune.jpg 15:48, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I didn't pay attention to wand attack. Thanks for all the information. User Yoshida Keiji Signature.jpg Yoshida Keiji talk 03:55, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Title skills update[edit]

Yes ResolvedTemplate completed.

See Feedback talk:Game updates/20120517#Remaining research. --Silver Edge 07:12, 19 May 2012 (UTC)